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trump, might favor donald trump. that judge looks like she's going to stay on the case. >> well, she's going to stay on the case for now. big question was whether or not this was some preliminary assignment to judge, aileen cannon, as she was randomly assigned to donald trump's case. we all know her very well. she had a very embarrassing run act appointing a special master, in trying to pretty much run on position on behalf of donald trump, previously. in the 11th circuit court of appeals said you got it wrong. you got it wrong in the facts. you got it wrong in the law. doesn't mean the doj can't move to recuse. but recusal is a high standard. ultimately, she can deny a motion to recuse by the doj. and let's be very honest, let's manage expectations here. just because you are a trump appointed judge doesn't mean end of itself that is grounds for recusal. however, there is some law that is within this 11th circuit. there's a whole bunch of us that have been talking about this amongst ourselves, in terms of the legal a
trump, might favor donald trump. that judge looks like she's going to stay on the case. >> well, she's going to stay on the case for now. big question was whether or not this was some preliminary assignment to judge, aileen cannon, as she was randomly assigned to donald trump's case. we all know her very well. she had a very embarrassing run act appointing a special master, in trying to pretty much run on position on behalf of donald trump, previously. in the 11th circuit court of appeals...
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trump's defense in the case of united states of america versus donald j trump, in which donald trump stands accused of 37 counts of violating federal law, including the espionage act, and his illegal possession of government documents, including highly classified documents. today, donald trump answered questions about the two minute audio recording that flooded cable news last night, including this program. the audio recording seems to review donald trump showing, holding up and showing, a classified document of multiple pages that contained the american military's theoretical war plan against iran. the pentagon regularly maintains and updates theoretical work against actually most countries in the world, and most of those war plans have no chance of ever being carried out. but, all of them are highly classified. we are going to play that audio recording of donald trump apparently discussing the iran or war plans, and showing the plans to people not authorized to seek classified information. we will play those two minutes for you again, tonight, in their entirety. before that, we wan
trump's defense in the case of united states of america versus donald j trump, in which donald trump stands accused of 37 counts of violating federal law, including the espionage act, and his illegal possession of government documents, including highly classified documents. today, donald trump answered questions about the two minute audio recording that flooded cable news last night, including this program. the audio recording seems to review donald trump showing, holding up and showing, a...
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donald trump's criminal defense lawyers and donald trump now have it all. they have the case of the united states of america versus donald trump. this is in their hands right now, the full grand jury testimony of all of the witnesses who will testify against donald trump. andrew weissmann is with us tonight to analyze that, and much more that we have to cover tonight. and tonight is one of those nights, where we have to reflect on the fact that you live in a country where the incoming president replaced every u.s. attorney, as is customary for new presidents, but this time, the president deported from that political custom in one instance. the president did not replace the republican appointed u.s. attorney who was investigating the presidents son. the new attorney general, chosen by the new president did not in any way interfere with the u.s. attorney who was investigating the president some, and he was appointed by the previous president. you live in a country where the president and the attorney general belief that no one is above the law, including the
donald trump's criminal defense lawyers and donald trump now have it all. they have the case of the united states of america versus donald trump. this is in their hands right now, the full grand jury testimony of all of the witnesses who will testify against donald trump. andrew weissmann is with us tonight to analyze that, and much more that we have to cover tonight. and tonight is one of those nights, where we have to reflect on the fact that you live in a country where the incoming president...
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sean hannity did not ask donald trump about any of those things tonight in iowa, where donald trump will face at least six republican challengers for the republican presidential nomination, including mike pence. our first guest tonight says, quote, they are the in case of emergency brake glasgow wart. if trump winds up on the path to prison, and republicans must win scrounge for a last-minute replacement, they are hoping that voters see them as solid substitutes. >> every republican running for president not named trump is actually running on the hope that donald trump will be indicted repeatedly this year and at least two different cases being pursued by doj special prosecutor jack smith and the fraud case that has already been investigated by a special grand jury in fulton county, georgia. the other republican candidates are all, as charles blow puts it, waiting for legal lightning to strike for trump to become politically incapacitated but trump will fight to the last breath, maybe not because he wants to be president again, but because he wants to hedge against becoming a prisoner. a
sean hannity did not ask donald trump about any of those things tonight in iowa, where donald trump will face at least six republican challengers for the republican presidential nomination, including mike pence. our first guest tonight says, quote, they are the in case of emergency brake glasgow wart. if trump winds up on the path to prison, and republicans must win scrounge for a last-minute replacement, they are hoping that voters see them as solid substitutes. >> every republican...
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trump, you have to take on donald trump. right now, with the exception of a south hutchinson and chris christie, nobody seems to be doing that. they are afraid of donald trump's base. they don't want to alienate the maga base. and so, they are trying to embrace it. that is going to do nothing to differentiate themselves from the former president. electorally, it's curious. because, you know, if you look at the polling, donald, in the early states, donald trump's support is soft enough. he's got a floor in the mid to high 30s. that is plenty of room for others to run with. they don't have to run in appealing entirely to the maga base. there are a lot of disaffected republicans out there, i think, who might be saying, you know what, we were with donald trump wants. maybe even twice. but i'm just exhausted. i'm exhausted of all the chaos that swirls around this guy. and so, maybe it's time to give someone with a clean slate a chance, if we want to take out president biden. -- >> this is. >> no, go ahead mo. >> in terms of democ
trump, you have to take on donald trump. right now, with the exception of a south hutchinson and chris christie, nobody seems to be doing that. they are afraid of donald trump's base. they don't want to alienate the maga base. and so, they are trying to embrace it. that is going to do nothing to differentiate themselves from the former president. electorally, it's curious. because, you know, if you look at the polling, donald, in the early states, donald trump's support is soft enough. he's got...
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that was donald trump's public defense. he actually thought that was a defense when he was last on cnn live in that town hall. that's the kind of defense that would guarantee donald trump being convicted. and so, in his first public comments since being indictment, donald trump has stopped offering any kind of defense. and instead, offers adjectives about the prosecution, including adjectives that he does not understand. >> there is no criminality here. it's ridiculous. and these people, look, they are using it, its election interference. they are using it to get elected. they think that if they can damage somebody's reputation, they can do it. this is like stalinist, whatever. >> donald trump, obviously, has no idea what the adjective stalinist means, which is why he had to so abruptly end the sentence, when he used the word by just slamming whatever, in a period, right after the word stalinist. it is unlikely that donald trump knows what country stalin ruled or what joseph stalin's first name was. but now that donald trum
that was donald trump's public defense. he actually thought that was a defense when he was last on cnn live in that town hall. that's the kind of defense that would guarantee donald trump being convicted. and so, in his first public comments since being indictment, donald trump has stopped offering any kind of defense. and instead, offers adjectives about the prosecution, including adjectives that he does not understand. >> there is no criminality here. it's ridiculous. and these people,...
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donald trump. on may 6th, 2021, asking, politely, for the return of documents that belong to the united states government. nothing was returned. on january 17th, 2022, an archive contract arrived at mar-a-lago to load 15 boxes into a truck and transport them 1000 miles north to the national facilities. on may 11th, of 2022 last year, may 11th of last year a justice department issued a subpoena for any remaining documents that donald trump's florida residence. on june 7th, the justice department returning j brett, went to mar-a-lago to collect the remaining documents subject to that subpoena. on that day, donald trump's lawyers gave jay bryant a written, signed a statement saying they were returning everything in donald trump's possession, subject to that subpoena, after what they called a diligent search. on august 8th of last year, august 8th, justice department officials in the fbi returned with a search warrant and seized over 100 documents marked classified as well as thousands of other governm
donald trump. on may 6th, 2021, asking, politely, for the return of documents that belong to the united states government. nothing was returned. on january 17th, 2022, an archive contract arrived at mar-a-lago to load 15 boxes into a truck and transport them 1000 miles north to the national facilities. on may 11th, of 2022 last year, may 11th of last year a justice department issued a subpoena for any remaining documents that donald trump's florida residence. on june 7th, the justice department...
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and so it's using donald trump against donald trump which, prosecutors apparently are finding pretty easy to do. >> exactly, and it's that language that could be presented if they get to a jury when he says, i didn't know, as you say -- >> here's the thing, right, you have to assume that he can not testify. >> no, i don't think he can. >> his former lawyer who you interviewed, i interviewed after you, he said to me on air that he didn't think donald trump could possibly testify. so let's just assume that's true. that you cannot put donald trump on the witness stand in this case. well, then, how do you do it? you can't get in -- what testimony could you get in -- what evidence could you get in that donald trump thought it was okay? the only way to get that in is he has to get on the witness stand and say, i thought it was okay. so that's not really going to be available as a defense, you know, without putting him on the stand, which you just can't do. >> to your point, we've seen a preview from the speaking indictment. jack smith plans call lawyers and aides up and say, you told him h
and so it's using donald trump against donald trump which, prosecutors apparently are finding pretty easy to do. >> exactly, and it's that language that could be presented if they get to a jury when he says, i didn't know, as you say -- >> here's the thing, right, you have to assume that he can not testify. >> no, i don't think he can. >> his former lawyer who you interviewed, i interviewed after you, he said to me on air that he didn't think donald trump could possibly...
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i think particularly, donald trump. i suspect, i'm not sure about this, of course, it's all speculation, that if nixon hadn't been pardoned, and the criminal process have been allowed to run its course, whatever the judgment ultimately was, that donald trump wouldn't have felt the right to behave as he had and to instigate and insurrection and to do all the other acts that he did in office that were either criminal or abuse of power. >> jill, i have a minute left. i suspect you feel the same way. that if this is not allowed to proceed the way it should, that in 50 years, three of us will be having this conversation again about back in 2023, they should've let that process play out, because so-and-so is now abusing it. >> i agree completely. i argued very strenuously with leandro or ski to allow us to indict the best we could get at the time of the original indictment was to name richard nixon and unindicted coconspirator. but i do believe that my friend liz holtzman has said it very well. that if we had gone ahead and i
i think particularly, donald trump. i suspect, i'm not sure about this, of course, it's all speculation, that if nixon hadn't been pardoned, and the criminal process have been allowed to run its course, whatever the judgment ultimately was, that donald trump wouldn't have felt the right to behave as he had and to instigate and insurrection and to do all the other acts that he did in office that were either criminal or abuse of power. >> jill, i have a minute left. i suspect you feel the...
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he's not a fan of donald trump. he has no interest in joining kind of the talking points that we saw from kevin mccarthy, the house speaker, and other republicans, criticizing the department of judge's justice, and suggesting there are two tiers of justice in this country. that is something that mitch mcconnell is likely to engage in, but at the same time, he doesn't want to enrage that trump base. he is already not favorites within that group, so that's why you see him waiting until the last minute. but i can promise, steph, if i am in that press conference tomorrow, i'm gonna ask him that question. whether or not he answers it, we're gonna have to wait and see. >> we will be watching. of course, he doesn't have to join kevin mccarthy. he can simply speak his own truth. ryan nobles, thank you. we're gonna let you head to bed, in case you get to ask mitch mcconnell any questions tomorrow, i want you to be ready. but for the rest of, you are sticking around, because there's a lot more. ahead, we dig into the former p
he's not a fan of donald trump. he has no interest in joining kind of the talking points that we saw from kevin mccarthy, the house speaker, and other republicans, criticizing the department of judge's justice, and suggesting there are two tiers of justice in this country. that is something that mitch mcconnell is likely to engage in, but at the same time, he doesn't want to enrage that trump base. he is already not favorites within that group, so that's why you see him waiting until the last...
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with donald trump, we cannot be that certain. we see what is done as a express it, and we have to extrapolate and soon he wasn't much more careful when he was president, and the other thing on top of all of this is, as you know, this is not just past history, this is a guy who can beat president again a little over a year. what if, once again, we've got not only the role of mar-a-lago within our own system having american secrets to perhaps foreigners or people who shouldn't have them, but what if we got a whole once again in the oval office? >> let me ask you about the last few days, we've been looking for responses from and republican, members of congress, senators. there are a few people, particularly in the senate, who have been entirely silent lint -- there have been some republican legislators who've been entirely silent. there have been a few have been critical, including some people running against the president, but i want to retire, let's go back in history, a quote from richard nixon's reservation speech, and what she
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is there a problem with representing donald trump that maybe just goes beyond donald trump himself as a difficult person to defend? >> it's one of the most curious parts of this case is that somebody who is facing this amount of legal jeopardy, who occupied the highest position in the land, who can get presumably the best attorneys money can buy doesn't have a full slate of lawyers behind him, a full bench to be able to go up against the u.s. government. it's just stunning, if you think about it. but one of the things that the reporting out there shows is that one of the people who's been serving as sort of an in-house, sort of cattle gather of sorts, boris epshteyn, somebody serving as kind of quasi lawyer, at least the reporting out there suggests that he has been sort of one of the blockades and has managed to sort of alienate other lawyers on the team. we have heard this from tim parlatore on the record. he has suggested that has been an issue, and there has been concern or at least questions raised about that's why two of his other attorneys resigned just hours before that indict
is there a problem with representing donald trump that maybe just goes beyond donald trump himself as a difficult person to defend? >> it's one of the most curious parts of this case is that somebody who is facing this amount of legal jeopardy, who occupied the highest position in the land, who can get presumably the best attorneys money can buy doesn't have a full slate of lawyers behind him, a full bench to be able to go up against the u.s. government. it's just stunning, if you think...
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but let's look at donald trump's words in 2016. he said that hillary clinton was unfit for the white house because of the way she handled classified information. he said she wasn't qualified to have a low level state department job. i think his words set the standard that america will look at him and determining whether he is fit for president. >> i had a lot of conversations with congressman buck over the years. and he's been -- when everyone is taking line a or line b, he's taking line c. he's been refreshingly out of step is the wrong way to describe it, about up not necessarily in line on all issues within the republican party. >> he's more independent and taking on the speaker showing some independence also. >> he's on judiciary, foreign affairs. when you look at the brief description of what is in the various documents, many of them have to deal with foreign fairs, foreign governments, preparations for things like war. he has a deep knowledge. >> the gang of eight, he sees the documents too. a lot of people on the committees
but let's look at donald trump's words in 2016. he said that hillary clinton was unfit for the white house because of the way she handled classified information. he said she wasn't qualified to have a low level state department job. i think his words set the standard that america will look at him and determining whether he is fit for president. >> i had a lot of conversations with congressman buck over the years. and he's been -- when everyone is taking line a or line b, he's taking line...
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boris epshteyn or donald trump? >> look, i don't actually see what he said there is being totally inconsistent. i think that the situation is a lot more nuanced than that. i have not had any particular problems with the president himself when i was representing him. certainly, any time you represent a client who does have a campaign, there is a calm's team. there is going to be other things that have happened. most of my clients are not running for any office and you just simply say, you invoke your right to remain silent. you have your right to counsel. don't say anything. >> let's just hold it there for a second, and keep going. so -- and donald trump absolutely did not do that. right? called special prosecutor a terrorist and other things -- i'm sure he didn't consult -- i assume he did not consult you on whether jack smith is a terrorist and he should say that. >> i thought it was a bomb throwing -- >> -- i can read them to you. but let's stay with this boris thing for a minute. >> yep. >> because donald trump w
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it's not been what donald trump did here. it's not necessary. >> bradley moss and charles coleman junior, i appreciate both of you for getting us started this morning, and giving us your analysis. thank you so much. and we have a quick programming note, tonight at eight pm, ali velshi will lead special coverage of the indictment of donald trump and special counsel jack smith classified document case. i will be joining the conversation, along with my colleagues, -- , alicia menendez, and symone sanders-townsend. watch special coverage of the indictment tonight, a pm eastern, only on msnbc. >> and don't go anywhere, as we continue with our special coverage of former president donald trump's latest indictment. including the chilling rhetoric of some of the magra faithful. carl -- joins me live after the break to discuss that. >> you're watching the katie phang show. phang show i bought the team! kevin...? i bought the team! i put it on my chase freedom unlimited card. and i'm gonna cashback on a few other things too. starting wi
it's not been what donald trump did here. it's not necessary. >> bradley moss and charles coleman junior, i appreciate both of you for getting us started this morning, and giving us your analysis. thank you so much. and we have a quick programming note, tonight at eight pm, ali velshi will lead special coverage of the indictment of donald trump and special counsel jack smith classified document case. i will be joining the conversation, along with my colleagues, -- , alicia menendez, and...
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said to donald trump to his face. i don't know if he's going to get that moment, but i think that's what he wants. >> yeah, i tend to agree with you. i think this is some ort of personal redemption tour. but, mark, you had a great interview with christie in the atlantic from last month. and there's this amazing quote from christie. i'm not going to dwell on this, mark, christie said. you guys drive me crazy. all you want to talk about is trump. i'm sorry, i'm not going to waste my hour with you this morning which is a joy and a gift on just continuing to talking and asking trump questions from 18 different angles. >> he then went up and talked about trump in 18 different ways, what's so bizarre about that interview. he's extremely adept at potentially taking some real shots at donald trump. he knows donald trump batter than most. he's much more nimble at least oratorally in a format like this. i don't think it's likely chris christie is ever going to have his own hail to the chief played for him and mike pence, too, b
said to donald trump to his face. i don't know if he's going to get that moment, but i think that's what he wants. >> yeah, i tend to agree with you. i think this is some ort of personal redemption tour. but, mark, you had a great interview with christie in the atlantic from last month. and there's this amazing quote from christie. i'm not going to dwell on this, mark, christie said. you guys drive me crazy. all you want to talk about is trump. i'm sorry, i'm not going to waste my hour...
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donald trump has a disorder. if he's a sociopath, what's so wrong with our tribe whether to we are talking about our republican tribe, our conservative tribe, our evangelical tribe? why weren't there more tim kellers out there? why weren't there more pete wehners out there? why weren't there more russell moores out there? >> yeah. and joe scarboroughs and others. look, it's a question i've wrestled with for a long time. one way i think about it is how many of these dark impulses existed pretrump in the republican party that i wasn't his lawyer too as i should have been. if you go over my writings, i called the republicans out now and then. looking back, i probably didn't do near enough. part of that what's gone on, you had a situation in which there were deep feelings of grievance and resentments that trump tapped into, and you saw the psychological accommodation. once they threw their hat over the wall in 2016 when he got the nomination, it was one thing after another after another. if you study human psychology
donald trump has a disorder. if he's a sociopath, what's so wrong with our tribe whether to we are talking about our republican tribe, our conservative tribe, our evangelical tribe? why weren't there more tim kellers out there? why weren't there more pete wehners out there? why weren't there more russell moores out there? >> yeah. and joe scarboroughs and others. look, it's a question i've wrestled with for a long time. one way i think about it is how many of these dark impulses existed...
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s arraignment of donald trump. the same kind of energy. donald trump goes into the courtroom. there's a plea of not guilty. it will be entered. >> when the trials are going to be done. that is really for aileen cannon to be able to control the docket. i did want to say quickly. i was interested in your setup. can you imagine aileen cannon after all the stuff she did, clearly, it favor donald trump, reading the 49-page indictment, seeing what he did, -- >> what i'm saying, that's crazy. >> don't you think, yeah, you would think if the case stays with, are she's going to make sure she minds for p's and q's. >> the legal states are saying this. well judge cannon has a very public rebuke from the 11th circuit court, the earlier stages of this case, they believe that it had an effect. she is going to be possibly putting a better foot forward. she cares about the reputation. we don't know if that's true. we don't have any insights. it's all speculation. >> it is. i, mean look, it's a federal. judge you would think that they want to do their job, they'd have to follow the law. the ar
s arraignment of donald trump. the same kind of energy. donald trump goes into the courtroom. there's a plea of not guilty. it will be entered. >> when the trials are going to be done. that is really for aileen cannon to be able to control the docket. i did want to say quickly. i was interested in your setup. can you imagine aileen cannon after all the stuff she did, clearly, it favor donald trump, reading the 49-page indictment, seeing what he did, -- >> what i'm saying, that's...
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he's a lobbyist that before donald trump, like this was never successful -- when donald trump came to town, and there was nobody around prepared to take advantage -- >> that's him. >> that's him. to take advantage of the new normal, strict was able to figure it out. he had this really crazy story about how he was able to come to power and gain millions and millions of dollars under donald trump. the way it started is that he celebrated at the four seasons hotel, and he was a low level trump guy. a dog sniffs his crutch, which is bizarre, and a woman comes and is apologetic about it. it turns out that she was with the museum and pc it is having a difficult time connecting her country donald trump. it is expected that hillary clinton would one. donald trump was hard to get in touch with. robert strzok said, oh, i can do that. >> to this day, he has never met donald trump, is that right? >> he met him one time. he said he met impacts stage, who's doing something with his hair, putting a lot of spray in his hair. he said he'd met him once, but he does not have a strong connection but enou
he's a lobbyist that before donald trump, like this was never successful -- when donald trump came to town, and there was nobody around prepared to take advantage -- >> that's him. >> that's him. to take advantage of the new normal, strict was able to figure it out. he had this really crazy story about how he was able to come to power and gain millions and millions of dollars under donald trump. the way it started is that he celebrated at the four seasons hotel, and he was a low...
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department to indict donald trump. of course, the president biden has never, done and would never do that. but, after condemning that conduct, donald trump says, that is exactly what he plans to do. >> i will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the united states of america, joe biden. >> so there is donald trump, promising, to weaponize the justice department. against his political opponents if he is restored to the process. joe biden has never appointed a special prosecutor. jacks with was employed to bow to you general, merrick garland, without ever consulting the president. donald trump promises to appoint special prosecutors, himself, if he is president. donald trump will be accusing special prosecutors. the united states, and the world, have much to fear on the second trump presidency. they would never stoke that fire on this program because, strongly, i believe that if the republican candidate will beat him, and by an even greater margin than he beat him befo
department to indict donald trump. of course, the president biden has never, done and would never do that. but, after condemning that conduct, donald trump says, that is exactly what he plans to do. >> i will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the united states of america, joe biden. >> so there is donald trump, promising, to weaponize the justice department. against his political opponents if he is restored to the process. joe...
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donald trump. on may 6th, 2021, asking, politely, for the return of documents that belong to the united states government. nothing was returned. on january 17th, 2022, an archive contract arrived at mar-a-lago to load 15 boxes into a truck and transport them 1000 miles north to the national facilities. on may 11th, of 2022 last year, may 11th of last year a justice department issued a subpoena for any remaining documents that donald trump's florida residence. on june 7th, the justice department returning j brett, went to mar-a-lago to collect the remaining documents subject to that subpoena. on that day, donald trump's lawyers gave jay bryant a written, signed a statement saying they were returning everything in donald trump's possession, subject to that subpoena, after what they called a diligent search. on august 8th of last year, august 8th, justice department officials in the fbi returned with a search warrant and seized over 100 documents marked classified as well as thousands of other governm
donald trump. on may 6th, 2021, asking, politely, for the return of documents that belong to the united states government. nothing was returned. on january 17th, 2022, an archive contract arrived at mar-a-lago to load 15 boxes into a truck and transport them 1000 miles north to the national facilities. on may 11th, of 2022 last year, may 11th of last year a justice department issued a subpoena for any remaining documents that donald trump's florida residence. on june 7th, the justice department...
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donald trump is a disgrace. and the republican party it's continuing to enable, and make excuses for someone who is against our democracy, against everything we republicans claim to despise, he represents. and yet, here we are. so it's astounding to me, and not only are they continuing to do that, which is costing them elections, which will cost of the general election. but they are also making excuses for someone who engages in stochastic terrorism, making threats against the prosecutor, threats against our institutions of justice. and all of a sudden that's not a problem for them? what are we doing here? this is a very dangerous time, and reminding our institutions, the rank hypocrisy out of the republican party's unfathomable and content about this point, because now all of a sudden, it's oh no, justice isn't being fairly applied, you don't hear them say that when it comes to the other side, or in other cases. it's really astonishing to watch. but it also means they need to pay a price for this, the american
donald trump is a disgrace. and the republican party it's continuing to enable, and make excuses for someone who is against our democracy, against everything we republicans claim to despise, he represents. and yet, here we are. so it's astounding to me, and not only are they continuing to do that, which is costing them elections, which will cost of the general election. but they are also making excuses for someone who engages in stochastic terrorism, making threats against the prosecutor,...
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they want to stay friendly with donald trump but want to beat donald trump. think about that dynamic, they want to stay friendly with donald trump but they want drum to lose. they understand, i think they understand that donald trump is very popular, more popular than he was when he won the nomination in 2016 today. their problem is they want somebody else to do the dirty work. that's what i actually think their campaign is premised on. they want donald trump to be not only indicted but then convicted and then be put in position where someone else beats them and they're there to pick up the scraps afterwards. it's not going to work in a political campaign. as i said, you have to prosecute the argument and you have to tell the republican primary voters why shouldn't donald trump be the nominee and why should they? for some reason, they think somebody else is going to do the work for them, much like many of the candidates in 2016 thought. and we know how that turned out. >> not very well for them. on the other side, let me ask you about president biden. he's av
they want to stay friendly with donald trump but want to beat donald trump. think about that dynamic, they want to stay friendly with donald trump but they want drum to lose. they understand, i think they understand that donald trump is very popular, more popular than he was when he won the nomination in 2016 today. their problem is they want somebody else to do the dirty work. that's what i actually think their campaign is premised on. they want donald trump to be not only indicted but then...
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today on trump's truth social donald trump has this to say. strange, he's talking about this picture of classified documents on the floor. everything about the boxes was so neat, orderly, and clean. did the fbi tip over the one box the way they staged the papers on the floor during the raid of mar-a-lago only to apologize after getting caught? you pointed this out, andrew. none of the information in the indictment is from the fbi. it's from trump's own people. that seems deeply meaningful here. >> absolutely. and not only is it his own people but it's not his own people with a lot of baggage like michael cohen where you are putting someone on the stand were you on the what you're getting which is a guy who speaks to the media all the time and has admitted to committing perjury. that's not an easy witness to have on the stand. here, let's see, you've attorneys 12 and three, that would be his personal attorney 's. you've employees one and two. the photo that we just saw was taken by an employee. that's not taken by the fbi. so donald trump can s
today on trump's truth social donald trump has this to say. strange, he's talking about this picture of classified documents on the floor. everything about the boxes was so neat, orderly, and clean. did the fbi tip over the one box the way they staged the papers on the floor during the raid of mar-a-lago only to apologize after getting caught? you pointed this out, andrew. none of the information in the indictment is from the fbi. it's from trump's own people. that seems deeply meaningful here....
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trump had, audio recordings of donald trump, realtime text messages of his aides saying donald trump told me to do x, donald trump told me to do y. we've seen him get out of legal jeopardy because he's not on record anywhere or he's squishy. there's no text trail for him. there's no email trail for him. he famously doesn't put things in writing, and for the first time we have his words on tape a lot of them, and for the first time we have aides in realtime talking about him, and federal prosecutors have all of this. the detail in this document is unlike anything we have seen in the eight plus years now that we've been covering donald trump. >> it's a great point, and the closest anyone came was robert mueller's volume 2 where don mcgahn and his chief of staff's notes where trump tells him to fire mueller and put out the false statement, it's i think obstructive acts 3, 4, and 5 that come the closest to what katy is saying, but actual trump's voice on tape we haven't heard or seen before. >> donald trump's reaction to don mcgahn. >> he fired him. he ultimately fired him. >> why are yo
trump had, audio recordings of donald trump, realtime text messages of his aides saying donald trump told me to do x, donald trump told me to do y. we've seen him get out of legal jeopardy because he's not on record anywhere or he's squishy. there's no text trail for him. there's no email trail for him. he famously doesn't put things in writing, and for the first time we have his words on tape a lot of them, and for the first time we have aides in realtime talking about him, and federal...
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donald trump is filling it. he is the one who is defining what's going on here, and a lot of these republican senators are getting a pass on how they talk about this because there's no real pushback. i understand why chuck schumer is saying we need to let the process play out. i certainly do. we are in a whole new era of politics where i don't think that you can play by the old rules. we certainly know that donald trump doesn't. >> brendan buck, thank you very much. and coming up, another american is detained in russia. what the moscow court is accusing him of doing, and the punishment that he is facing. >>> plus, part of i-95, the main artery between philadelphia and new york city shut down. the road collapsed. we'll tell you what happened and how long it will take to fix. transportation secretary pete buttigieg joins me later in the hour for that. pete buttigieg joins me later in the hour for that. (vo) this is sadie. she's on verizon, and she has the new myplan where she gets exactly what she wants and only p
donald trump is filling it. he is the one who is defining what's going on here, and a lot of these republican senators are getting a pass on how they talk about this because there's no real pushback. i understand why chuck schumer is saying we need to let the process play out. i certainly do. we are in a whole new era of politics where i don't think that you can play by the old rules. we certainly know that donald trump doesn't. >> brendan buck, thank you very much. and coming up, another...
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because donald trump -- >> i suspend all of my predictions with donald trump. >> donald trump, of course, the audio recording. donald trump is suggesting that there were potentially iran counter attack plans that he was supposedly showing. that's on the audio tape. when asked specifically yesterday what he was referring to when he said plans, he said, wait, what about plans, and then went on to say, well, the plans i was talking about are building plans, and plans for golf courses here. i'm not one to determine whether donald trump was talking about his golf courses or not. all i know is this is the latest in ten months of him, after august of 2022 suggesting that the fbi planted tumts at his mar-a-lago estate to now he has attack plans, this is a tough position he's putting his own legal counsel in, and very well would be a key suggestion as to why donald trump has had a hard time retaining counsel in this investigation. >> a diplomatic way to say it would be an evolution of answers. joining me now is former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, we have audio of donald tru
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this is the fbi director that donald trump appointed. so this is a little bit brief reprogramming in the political party as a result of what donald trump has -- misinformation, disinformation he's waged over the years. but i'm very struck by the fact that beside chris christie doesn't stand up in this nomination fight and, say enough is enough. we can't win that with this guy. the facts are clear, the law is clear. and yet, every time this happens, maybe it will be the third or fourth indictment where someone decides to break with donald trump. >> that's kind of my head-scratcher, read, the wrong desantis's or the tim scotts, we can't win with this guy, they don't have to think about getting joe biden. the person they individually need to beat is donald trump. and clearly, this is their best opening right now. deegan, here's his vulnerability. he just got 37 charges launched against him by the department of justice. why would so many of his rivals be mush if anything at this point? when this be the time to go for the jugular? >> one woul
this is the fbi director that donald trump appointed. so this is a little bit brief reprogramming in the political party as a result of what donald trump has -- misinformation, disinformation he's waged over the years. but i'm very struck by the fact that beside chris christie doesn't stand up in this nomination fight and, say enough is enough. we can't win that with this guy. the facts are clear, the law is clear. and yet, every time this happens, maybe it will be the third or fourth...
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donald trump. donald trump is now charged with 37 counts, all felonies. the crimes include obstruction of justice and a violation of the espionage act. the indictment is better in and reads more clearly and easily than anything else you might have heard about the case. it includes stunning photographs of the way, as the that man says, donald trump illegally kept government documents at his florida residence, showing just how insecurely the documents were maintained and how vulnerable and likely the documents were to be obtained or examined by people with or without donald trump's knowledge and without the knowledge of the secret service who were always there for the sole purpose of protecting the former president, not protecting the documents. the indictment points out, quote, donald trump did not inform the secret service that he was storing boxes containing classified documents at the mar-a-lago club. the document includes -- the indictment includes these quotations from donald trump, while he wa
donald trump. donald trump is now charged with 37 counts, all felonies. the crimes include obstruction of justice and a violation of the espionage act. the indictment is better in and reads more clearly and easily than anything else you might have heard about the case. it includes stunning photographs of the way, as the that man says, donald trump illegally kept government documents at his florida residence, showing just how insecurely the documents were maintained and how vulnerable and likely...
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what about donald trump? what about donald trump's justice department? it's not like they weren't talking about it. they were talking about convicting or bringing charges against hillary, a special counsel against hillary in 2016 while he was running he talked about it. said after he got elected, nah, 2017, he brought it up again. they came to the conclusion, no, can't. in 2018, brought it up again, there's not a case there. time and time again they looked into it. it wasn't like donald trump said, oh, you know what, i'm going to be cool now that i'm in the white house, he raged on in 2017. he raged on in 2018. they looked at it. his legal counsel said, there's nothing there. so when these people say two tiers of justice, and you're going after donald trump, they need to turn the mirror back on themselves because it was the trump doj that said no charges should be brought against hillary for the same reason that comey said is at the end. comey's impact words, no reasonable prosecutor would ever bring charges with the facts of this case. >> and the three-
what about donald trump? what about donald trump's justice department? it's not like they weren't talking about it. they were talking about convicting or bringing charges against hillary, a special counsel against hillary in 2016 while he was running he talked about it. said after he got elected, nah, 2017, he brought it up again. they came to the conclusion, no, can't. in 2018, brought it up again, there's not a case there. time and time again they looked into it. it wasn't like donald trump...
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legal danger for donald trump. you know, fani willis's racketeering case is pretty striking, but we don't know all the details of what will be laid out. but this one is where one where people have been court martialed, sent to jail, lost their law license. these are the acts of a person -- these acts as alleged by jack smith are not ones that you just walk away blithely from after saying it's a big lie, a big hoax and that it's not fair to you. this is a different category, a different order of storm. >> so paul, the indictment was very detailed, the 49 pages. but there's still a lot we don't know about this case, the time line, for example, who might be called as witnesses. apparently that was part of the conversation in the courtroom yesterday. when are we going to start to get answers? what happens now and in the next couple of months? >> so judge cannon will have to set a trial date if she remains on the case. jack smith says he wants the trial as soon as possible. trump probably wants to delay until after the
legal danger for donald trump. you know, fani willis's racketeering case is pretty striking, but we don't know all the details of what will be laid out. but this one is where one where people have been court martialed, sent to jail, lost their law license. these are the acts of a person -- these acts as alleged by jack smith are not ones that you just walk away blithely from after saying it's a big lie, a big hoax and that it's not fair to you. this is a different category, a different order of...
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and donald trump's his own worst enemy. donald trump will convict donald trump at trial. let's take one example. it probably would have been a pretty heavy evidentiary lift, steph, for prosecutors to prove. donald trump knew what was in all of those boxes that were transported from the white house to mar-a-lago. but what has he done is that he's handed prosecutors and gift time and again, by saying, you are darn right i knew it was in those boxes. i took them. they were mine. i have a right to them. of course he didn't. donald trump will convict donald trump at trial. >> neal, for those who are pointing and saying what about hillary clinton? what about what she did? i want to remind our audience that jim comey at the time said no prosecutor would have attempted to charge hillary clinton because they didn't have enough to prove intent, to prove motive. how different is that from the situation that we are in with trump, specifically now that we've heard his voice on that tape with the, hey, get us some cokes? >> it is night and day difference. it wasn't just that jim comey,
and donald trump's his own worst enemy. donald trump will convict donald trump at trial. let's take one example. it probably would have been a pretty heavy evidentiary lift, steph, for prosecutors to prove. donald trump knew what was in all of those boxes that were transported from the white house to mar-a-lago. but what has he done is that he's handed prosecutors and gift time and again, by saying, you are darn right i knew it was in those boxes. i took them. they were mine. i have a right to...
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now, let's listen to donald trump's defense. he had some things to say about his defense this weekend. we will go through a lightning round with our panel reacting to what donald trump had to say this weekend about this case. let's listen to the first thing he had to say. >> charging a former president of the united states under the espionage act of 1917, it's like making nuclear weapons in your basement, isn't it? a crime so heinous that only the death penalty will do. it's one of the most outrageous and vicious legal theories ever put forward in an american court of law. >> the espionage act has been used to go after traitors and spies, and has nothing to do with a former president legally keeping his own documents. >> andrew weissmann, the espionage act has nothing to do with a former president legally keeping his own documents. true or false? >> well, that would be true, if we were talking about a former president's own documents. that's not what we are talking about here. we are talking about the former president keeping th
now, let's listen to donald trump's defense. he had some things to say about his defense this weekend. we will go through a lightning round with our panel reacting to what donald trump had to say this weekend about this case. let's listen to the first thing he had to say. >> charging a former president of the united states under the espionage act of 1917, it's like making nuclear weapons in your basement, isn't it? a crime so heinous that only the death penalty will do. it's one of the...
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they hate donald trump. what we are witnessing today is the blatant and unapologetic weaponization of the criminal justice system. the biden appointed special counsel has saw it fit to bring 37 federal charges against president trump, the leading front-runner, less than a year and a half before an election. countless other individuals. hillary clinton, joe biden himself, retained possession of classified documents yet have not been prosecuted and none of them came into possession of those documents while they were president. none of them were president who as the head and soul member of the executive branch has the power to declassify documents. the decision to pursue charges against president trump while turning a blind eye to others is emblemmatic of the corruption we have here. we are at a turning point in our nation's history. the targeting prosecution of a leading political opponent is the type of thing you see in dictatorships. >> we're going to have our folks listen to her but she is saying many of th
they hate donald trump. what we are witnessing today is the blatant and unapologetic weaponization of the criminal justice system. the biden appointed special counsel has saw it fit to bring 37 federal charges against president trump, the leading front-runner, less than a year and a half before an election. countless other individuals. hillary clinton, joe biden himself, retained possession of classified documents yet have not been prosecuted and none of them came into possession of those...
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but donald trump is the one who took this on himself. he's the one who took the classified documents. if he find this obstructed it and illegally obtained them, again 59 seen the charging document, but can you blame the justice department, even if it's under a democrat to bring charges against somebody who broke the law? >> well, look, the same case could be made for bill clinton, in an independent counsel's investigation in which they try to pillory and undermine the person bringing the charges. and ultimately, merrick garland has to stand behind this prosecution. i mean, do i blame anybody? look, prosecutions are hard. this is not going to be easy to accomplish. i think they've made the decision that they can't wait any longer. >> yeah. >> it's either now or never. and even now or never, i wonder if this lands a prosecution like the new york district attorney's office case. in the primary election cycle, how that really is going to be possible. i mean, donald trump's not going to sit there for two weeks as a defendant which he has an o
but donald trump is the one who took this on himself. he's the one who took the classified documents. if he find this obstructed it and illegally obtained them, again 59 seen the charging document, but can you blame the justice department, even if it's under a democrat to bring charges against somebody who broke the law? >> well, look, the same case could be made for bill clinton, in an independent counsel's investigation in which they try to pillory and undermine the person bringing the...
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that includes donald trump. but what we've seen from donald trump in the past is bringing cases not many lawyers thought he would have a chance of winning like the cases he brought over and over again for witnesses that didn't have executive privilege live steve bannon or using the motions to go after new york attorney general in her investigation and claimed it was a partisan witch hunt and used the judicial process to do that. we're going to see very aggressive motion practice. i think we're going to see lots of politicking in those motions that have very little to do with the law. many of us looking and reading that indictment are sitting there, thinking, i'm glad i don't have to come up with a defense because it's very hard to come up with one. if it were not donald trump, i promise you the lawyers or anyone facing the evidence in that indictment would be saying we need a plea deal, and that is not going to happen here, but that means they'll politicize the judicial process, and the question is the judge who
that includes donald trump. but what we've seen from donald trump in the past is bringing cases not many lawyers thought he would have a chance of winning like the cases he brought over and over again for witnesses that didn't have executive privilege live steve bannon or using the motions to go after new york attorney general in her investigation and claimed it was a partisan witch hunt and used the judicial process to do that. we're going to see very aggressive motion practice. i think we're...
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donald trump's pack is paying's legal bills, donald trump is running for president again, donald trump could be president again, in which case, walt nauta will have a job still. he might get a pardon and continue to have his legal bills paid. in the absence of all those things, he might go to prison, does not get his legal bills pay, and he stays in jail. it's a different calculus then an ordinary defendant who is on trial with somebody else who might have those powers. when your codefendant is the once and possibly future president of the united states, it's a different ball game, alicia. >> that is the most compelling explanation to i've heard. lisa reuben, as always, you are staying with me. can dilanian, thank you so much. next, the spin machine, it is in high gear. hypocrisy of the republicans who are rushing to the defense and the former president. and a reminder, in case you needed it, this is trump's second criminal indictment, but wait, there could be more. the other legal trouble facing donald trump. that is why lisa reuben is sticking around. but first richard louis who is s
donald trump's pack is paying's legal bills, donald trump is running for president again, donald trump could be president again, in which case, walt nauta will have a job still. he might get a pardon and continue to have his legal bills paid. in the absence of all those things, he might go to prison, does not get his legal bills pay, and he stays in jail. it's a different calculus then an ordinary defendant who is on trial with somebody else who might have those powers. when your codefendant is...
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donald trump is voted out but what happens of donald trump's charge through the legal system? well, according to many republicans, that's not legitimate either. if donald trump is charged his conduct by a local district attorney, it's gross overreach. if he's charged by federal prosecutors, it's a banana republic prosecution of a political opponent and regardless of the actual substance and we should leave it to the voters to decide. if you're staying with me here, we're back to the voters deciding and what happens this time if they don't elect him again if the last seven years have shown ever anything there is an excuse and there's a conspiracy and something that's unfair and it begs the question is there any forum to these republicans where they will hold trump accountable because of this under this logic it, can't be through an impeachment, . it can't be through elections apparently it can't be through the courts either. up next, the politics of our federal indictments, not a thing i had to worry about back when i was working on presidential campaigns. we'll talk about how
donald trump is voted out but what happens of donald trump's charge through the legal system? well, according to many republicans, that's not legitimate either. if donald trump is charged his conduct by a local district attorney, it's gross overreach. if he's charged by federal prosecutors, it's a banana republic prosecution of a political opponent and regardless of the actual substance and we should leave it to the voters to decide. if you're staying with me here, we're back to the voters...
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so donald trump is donald trump. i would think everyone on this panel, everybody knows that. problem list of members of his tried who continue to give him space and room to do what he does, which endangers our country. >> speaking of that members of his tribe, christina, let's listen to former vice president mike pence, what he had to say yesterday in north carolina. >> i think it is deeply troubling to see an indictment against a former president of the united states. i had hoped that the department of justice would see its way clear to resolve this manner without an indictment and i said so earlier this week. an indictment against the former president, i think, it'll be extraordinarily divisive, a challenging time for american families, i also think it sends a terrible message to the wider world. >> christina, if cotton candy or rhetoric, that would be it. >> i mean jonathan, this is the most feckless man i have ever encountered, and i've encountered quite a few. i cannot believe that mike pence will sit there and tried to essentially support and defend donald trump, who ca
so donald trump is donald trump. i would think everyone on this panel, everybody knows that. problem list of members of his tried who continue to give him space and room to do what he does, which endangers our country. >> speaking of that members of his tribe, christina, let's listen to former vice president mike pence, what he had to say yesterday in north carolina. >> i think it is deeply troubling to see an indictment against a former president of the united states. i had hoped...
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hooegs going to represent donald trump in this case. and also chris keys, a florida lawyer who has been sort of on again off again. the magistrate judge welcomed everyone to the southern district of florida. mr. trump sat stone faced. wearing a blue suit and red tie at the table with his lawyers and co-defendant. they waived the formal reading of the indictment so it was a really pro forma, bare bones affair. >> andrew, you've been nodding when at least the description of who the prosecutors were. give us a quick thumbnail on those. >> that's excite an experienced team. julie, the national security person, has a lot of experience with these types of cases is adept at the law. jay bratt, somebody we've heard about for some time. he famously was at mar-a-lago with fbi agents when a lot of the issues in the case with respect to what he could look at and not. >> what are we expecting next? is the judge going schedule something for soon after this? >> so what would have happened after the plea, i left the courtroom, but they would talk about
hooegs going to represent donald trump in this case. and also chris keys, a florida lawyer who has been sort of on again off again. the magistrate judge welcomed everyone to the southern district of florida. mr. trump sat stone faced. wearing a blue suit and red tie at the table with his lawyers and co-defendant. they waived the formal reading of the indictment so it was a really pro forma, bare bones affair. >> andrew, you've been nodding when at least the description of who the...
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donald trump said those things. barbara, if ever there was a moment for an absolute denial by donald trump's defense this would be a. >> yap. that's a really interesting insight. there is no denial there. you know, frequently donald trump's best defense is a good offense. talking about the nature of the week and those kinds of things. i found in my work that from time to time -- information got leaked out in the press. it was never the prosecutors. i don't think it was the fbi agents or other agents investigating. most often those leaks came from witnesses or their lawyers who were talking to reporters. oftentimes they were trying to portray their client in a more flattering light. so i would be very surprised if jack smith is trying to reveal any expects up in his investigation. so i think not only is that denial or non denial. it is also inaccurately aimed at tracks. mitt >> barber mcquade and bradley moss, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. coming up, -- will join us on the latest attempt by republic
donald trump said those things. barbara, if ever there was a moment for an absolute denial by donald trump's defense this would be a. >> yap. that's a really interesting insight. there is no denial there. you know, frequently donald trump's best defense is a good offense. talking about the nature of the week and those kinds of things. i found in my work that from time to time -- information got leaked out in the press. it was never the prosecutors. i don't think it was the fbi agents or...
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where did donald trump go? saudi arabia. he went to riyadh, his first stop as president of the united states. he defended saudi arabia after jamal khashoggi was killed. we know jared kushner had close ties to the crown prince while trump was in office. and since then saudis have made a significant investment in kushner's private business. so a lot connecting trump and saudi arabia here. and i'm sure part of the thought here, soft pow foer here, soft pow for saudi arabia, but also thinking if donald trump becomes president again, we have once again improved had relationship and we can take advantage of it in a couple years time. >> going to be interesting. andrew, let's turn to the u.s. economy. janet yellen had her first interview since the debt ceiling deal passed. and she was asked if the dhi was a little too strong. let's look. >> i've been saying now for almost a year that i see a path to bringing down inflation while maintaining a strong labor market. and i think the data we've seen recently and over the last year sugge
where did donald trump go? saudi arabia. he went to riyadh, his first stop as president of the united states. he defended saudi arabia after jamal khashoggi was killed. we know jared kushner had close ties to the crown prince while trump was in office. and since then saudis have made a significant investment in kushner's private business. so a lot connecting trump and saudi arabia here. and i'm sure part of the thought here, soft pow foer here, soft pow for saudi arabia, but also thinking if...
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he's rattled trump's lawyers and now donald trump. they're clearly afraid that they're facing what they were warned about, that he's the target of the indictment in this probe. >> let me ask you this because this is something i think, it's language we use on our showed because this is what happened. a target letter is what it sounds like, a target letter, but is there a scenario chin a person receives a target later and then they're not indicted? is it possible a target letter is more frightening than it is completely sort of, you know, i don't know, indicative of what's going to absolutely 100% happen? >> i would say legally very rarely. to make a very simple comparison, most planned weddings occur. every so often, you get the invite, you fly out there, and they don't. it's that level or i would say even higher. that's before you involve a former president. as soon as we have reported that the doj did in fact tell the lawyers that donald trump was targeted, it sounded like a matter of when. now tonight, you have the whole world is go
he's rattled trump's lawyers and now donald trump. they're clearly afraid that they're facing what they were warned about, that he's the target of the indictment in this probe. >> let me ask you this because this is something i think, it's language we use on our showed because this is what happened. a target letter is what it sounds like, a target letter, but is there a scenario chin a person receives a target later and then they're not indicted? is it possible a target letter is more...