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>> if i if i were found if i were fani willis, of course, a bottle fani willis, i wouldn't have done any of the things she did to get myself in this situation. i would say the nathan, hey, it's been a good fight. you need to hand me your letter record, resignation now, so we i can get this case back on track. but then again, fani willis and my personal opinion has continued to display very bad judgment and just conduct on becoming a i'm an elected official. so what i would do is not necessarily what she would do. >> sure. but she gets to stay on this case. bottom line, a win for her. scott ghraieb, man. thank you so much for taking the time with cnn. important inside from a man who faced off against fani willis in the district attorney's office fani willis going to be allowed to stay on this case, guys. >> all right. thank you. nick valencia, you just heard it's gotten rubbing the attorney for kenneth chesebro, jesper or who has already put in a guilty plea. so that case is over, but he's talking about what the attorneys may do going forward. right. and was very clear, brought up you
>> if i if i were found if i were fani willis, of course, a bottle fani willis, i wouldn't have done any of the things she did to get myself in this situation. i would say the nathan, hey, it's been a good fight. you need to hand me your letter record, resignation now, so we i can get this case back on track. but then again, fani willis and my personal opinion has continued to display very bad judgment and just conduct on becoming a i'm an elected official. so what i would do is not...
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the winner i would say is going to be da fani willis. but let's not pretend or fool ourselves to think there isn't going to be some consequence to this prosecution. not only have you spoke about the delay baked in because of the side show but the removal of nathan wade, whether you like it or not, materially impacts this case and the prosecution because he's been through it from ground zero. he helped build this prosecution, led the investigation. put this investigation through a special purpose grand jury. took it to a grand jury and got the indictment returned on 19 co-defendants. so i've said before, there is institutional and historical knowledge that goes away with nathan wade. all of that being said, though, there are skilled, incredibly competent, special prosecutors that remain on this case and they can continue to help fani willis with this case. >> just some of the details that we're going through on page 15, the judge finds that, quote, the record made at the evidentiary hearing establishes the district attorney's prosecution
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fani willis. he points out a number of things, this judge, as you have just suggested, doug, where he says there was an appearance of a conflict of interest and as you say, he says there may have been financial gain. the timing of the hiring makes it appear, again, that it was, as the trump investigation was ramping up and there would be long hours that would be worked as a result of that, so it is very curious that he decides to leave her on the case and doesn't explain -- maybe you have seen it in the document and i haven't yet, why he has decided to allow her to stay given all of that. >> yeah, thats the part that bothers me in this case. i've reached out to a couple other folks i know legal and professional retired judges and others to ask about this. i can't separate the fact that the action took place between two people and if the action took place between fani willis and nathan wade how can you split one without splitting the other? nathan wade leaving this case is not a death blow to this
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will we hear from fani willis? it really seems at this point only a matter of time before we get a resignation from nathan wade, even though we haven't heard from him in and also the big question right now at this hour is will the da try to get this case back on track before the november reelection? briana. >> yeah, that is the big question. nick valencia, live horse outside the fulton county courthouse in atlanta. and with us now we have cnn chief legal affairs correspondent, paula reid, that the timelines the question here, because theoretically now this case can move forward. fani willis had been pushing for august. that seems increasingly unlikely. >> it seemed ambitious when she said it before these questions about possibly disqualifying her were even raised. this is a sprawling rico case with over a dozen a dozen defendants. and now we've lost time going through this process to analyze whether she should be be disqualified. now she's also likely going to have to find a new lead prosecutor. so it seems unreali
will we hear from fani willis? it really seems at this point only a matter of time before we get a resignation from nathan wade, even though we haven't heard from him in and also the big question right now at this hour is will the da try to get this case back on track before the november reelection? briana. >> yeah, that is the big question. nick valencia, live horse outside the fulton county courthouse in atlanta. and with us now we have cnn chief legal affairs correspondent, paula reid,...
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this is a win for fani willis. i'm bewildered as to how the judge got to this conclusion to split the hairs like this, but in the end i think it's a good resolution. it allows this case to continue, even though, like i said, it's not going to go to trial before the election. >> just quickly, i wanted to get your two thoughts here, danny and lisa with me, how quickly this case could get back on track and whether it will happen before the election that we'll see at trial. >> it depends on what else is happening and what i call trump trial tetris, a number of different players trying to get their cases tried before november, alvin bragg now has to figure out when his case will be tried. he said yesterday he would agree to a 30-day adjournment. the only problem is that judge -- has another trial scheduled on may 27th, it's the steve bannon we build a wall case the new york district attorney has. there's a lot of moving pieces, i think if fani willis wanted to go to trial before the election it would certainly be diffic
this is a win for fani willis. i'm bewildered as to how the judge got to this conclusion to split the hairs like this, but in the end i think it's a good resolution. it allows this case to continue, even though, like i said, it's not going to go to trial before the election. >> just quickly, i wanted to get your two thoughts here, danny and lisa with me, how quickly this case could get back on track and whether it will happen before the election that we'll see at trial. >> it...
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fani willis stays on the case, but it just feels like this is not good. it just feels let's read this one part of the ruling. this finding is by no means an indication that the court condones this tremendous lapse in judgment or the unprofessional manner of the district attorney's testimony during the evidentiary hearing. >> i mean, >> that it just sounds like yes, the case continues, but it almost feels like is it going to hobble along what i mean, what do you think? >> well, let's put this in the larger context. at some point, trump's lawyers are going to have to defend him in a court of law maybe not this year. based on the facts and the law, but until that they have two goals. the first is to delay all four of his criminal trials. the other is to sow distrust in the criminal justice system. and what we've seen down and fulton county over the past few months has helped him with both of those goals in this language today where the judge described fani willis is having a lapse in judgment, calls her unprofessional on the stance that you repeatedly made b
fani willis stays on the case, but it just feels like this is not good. it just feels let's read this one part of the ruling. this finding is by no means an indication that the court condones this tremendous lapse in judgment or the unprofessional manner of the district attorney's testimony during the evidentiary hearing. >> i mean, >> that it just sounds like yes, the case continues, but it almost feels like is it going to hobble along what i mean, what do you think? >> well,...
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he gives fani willis the choice. you can either remove yourself and your office, or you can say boy bye, you're gone, nathan wade. notwithstanding the fact that fani willis gets to remain on this case, the trump team and codefendants succeeded in one other key respect. the mow m.o. of the trump world delay, delay, delay. mike roman was the director of operations for the trump campaign. she made that motion on january 8th, 2024. we are now at march 15th. it took us more than two months to complete all of the briefing and evidentiary hearings and closing arguments and now the decision on this. in the meantime, nothing on this case moved forward. >> blayne alexander is outside the courthouse. how long does fani willis have to make this decision? >> reporter: one would expect she would make it very quickly. keep in mind i want to give you the larger context. for the past 2 1/2 months this has been all we've been talking about. we haven't been talking about the facts of the case against donald trump. this has eclipsed tha
he gives fani willis the choice. you can either remove yourself and your office, or you can say boy bye, you're gone, nathan wade. notwithstanding the fact that fani willis gets to remain on this case, the trump team and codefendants succeeded in one other key respect. the mow m.o. of the trump world delay, delay, delay. mike roman was the director of operations for the trump campaign. she made that motion on january 8th, 2024. we are now at march 15th. it took us more than two months to...
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fani willis is up for election in a november. against a handful of people, they have different opinions on how this would affect their decision to vote. what with that environment due to this case? the stuff the government is doing, the fact that fani willis is an elected, not appointed d.a.? >> you have seen how does politics play out in the court. we have seen fani willis testified in an unprofessional way, as described by the judge because she was appealing to voters. that is going to be happening. donald trump is going to keep saying stuff, fulton county is going to want to respond and this election environment makes it hard to raise questions in the minds of voters that this is a fixed process. >> what you think about the gag orders? scott mcafee, the judge, suggested that the team might find a gag order suitable against fani willis. fani willis has tried to get a gag order trump for the things he says about her. tell me about that? >> i think any prosecutor should take a lesson from jack smith and that is you stick to what
fani willis is up for election in a november. against a handful of people, they have different opinions on how this would affect their decision to vote. what with that environment due to this case? the stuff the government is doing, the fact that fani willis is an elected, not appointed d.a.? >> you have seen how does politics play out in the court. we have seen fani willis testified in an unprofessional way, as described by the judge because she was appealing to voters. that is going to...
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>> it's been a terrible 48 hours for fani willis. she's had a bunch of charges thrown out on the grounds that they were deficient and now her lead prosecutor kicked off the case and she's been called out by a judge for making statements that may have been untrue and for making improper statements in public. i think that she's got to take a hard look at how this prosecution moves forward, if it most forward and whether it can credibly move forward in the eyes of the public with her at the helm. >> neil: thanks, gentlemen, both. you might have heard the impact on the trump campaign with all of this. all of this legal piling on as the former president described it has endeared him to many republicans saying this is es -- you heard the former vice president. we now he ken langone feels about that, the home depotco founder. he said given the choice between the two men, joe biden and donald trump, he would probably write in the name of his wife. what the billionaire co-founder of home depot is saying now after this. (bobby) my store and my
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fani willis. and today, the judge found no actual conflict of interest, but did manage to gratuitously impugn her integrity. >> also tonight, we need to have a serious reality check about the right-wing propaganda that trump is somehow gaining historic levels of support among black voters. he wishes. >>> but we begin tonight with the most american of realities. if you're a rich white guy and especially if you're a celebrity and a former president, not only are you above the law, you are so above the law that if you get indicted for trying to overturn an election and thus overthrow the government, that case isn't even about you. today, fulton county superior court judge scott mcafee ruled that fulton county d.a. fani willis will not be disqualified from prosecuting the racketeering case against donald trump. trump tried it. it didn't work. his case will be prosecuted in georgia. maga inc. failed to prove a conflict of interest, perhaps because there was no conflict of interest. but in making that r
fani willis. and today, the judge found no actual conflict of interest, but did manage to gratuitously impugn her integrity. >> also tonight, we need to have a serious reality check about the right-wing propaganda that trump is somehow gaining historic levels of support among black voters. he wishes. >>> but we begin tonight with the most american of realities. if you're a rich white guy and especially if you're a celebrity and a former president, not only are you above the law,...
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this is a win for fani willis. she gets to stay on as da, but how do you expect trump and his co-defendants to respond down the road? >> look, i think first of all, i think they've they've already kind of telegraph that they're going to appeal this, right? and the question of the appeal is going to be, isn't going to be appeal that can be taken interlocutory, which has now that will then tie up the case even further, or do they are they going to have to wait until after the case to have the appeal heard. there's probably pretty strong argument and the judge would have to agree to this, that it gets taken up now, because if the appellate court rules the other way and finds that the trial judge air committed error in this case as far as the log those then the case gets moved on to what it goes to that panel. and then could potentially get moved onto another prosecutor from another county, so that that's that's the next step legally in this case. and you have to remember on appeal the veracity of the witnesses, those
this is a win for fani willis. she gets to stay on as da, but how do you expect trump and his co-defendants to respond down the road? >> look, i think first of all, i think they've they've already kind of telegraph that they're going to appeal this, right? and the question of the appeal is going to be, isn't going to be appeal that can be taken interlocutory, which has now that will then tie up the case even further, or do they are they going to have to wait until after the case to have...
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why would he knowing there was a motion disqualify fani willis and the team. why would he offer statements, particularly as his former attorney in that context? well, they're saying because he was disgruntled because there's a skeleton in his closet and it was a bit of karma returned. the judge has so aside though, kaitlan, who to credit and who not, but i'll tell you what a really telling moment the fact that this judge is focused on whether an appearance of a conflict is enough versus an actual conflict tells you a lot about where his head might be at. if he was just focused on the actual conflict, not the case law to talk about the parameters fani willis would be probably a little bit less nervous than today. >> well, that's fascinating because when the defense attorneys kinda started out, they seem to be saying it's a really low bar for disqualification. it is not necessarily because what's at heart, the heart of this is not that they were in a relationship. it's the financial misconduct allegations. and so the defense attorneys seem to be setting a low ba
why would he knowing there was a motion disqualify fani willis and the team. why would he offer statements, particularly as his former attorney in that context? well, they're saying because he was disgruntled because there's a skeleton in his closet and it was a bit of karma returned. the judge has so aside though, kaitlan, who to credit and who not, but i'll tell you what a really telling moment the fact that this judge is focused on whether an appearance of a conflict is enough versus an...
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fani willis is up for election in november. we interviewed just a handful of people with different opinions. what does that environment do to this case? the stuff the governor is doing, that fani willis is elected and not appointed? >> you have seen how the politics play out. she was appealing to voters. and that will be key. makes it harder to have a trial that doesn't raise doubts. >> what do we think about the gag orders? the judge suggested that the trump team might find a gag order. to get a gag order for trump. tell me about that environment. >> i think that any prosecutor should take a lesson from jack smith. and that is you stick to what is in that indictment. i think frankly, a gag order on all parties assuming it can be limited in a way that doesn't impact your ability to defend yourself and pursue your case is really something that is valuable because there are so many distractions. we don't node to hear. the public doesn't need to hear. none of us need to listen to. and it is something that is very unfortunate, the
fani willis is up for election in november. we interviewed just a handful of people with different opinions. what does that environment do to this case? the stuff the governor is doing, that fani willis is elected and not appointed? >> you have seen how the politics play out. she was appealing to voters. and that will be key. makes it harder to have a trial that doesn't raise doubts. >> what do we think about the gag orders? the judge suggested that the trump team might find a gag...
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or fani willis resigned. joining us to discuss it all is our friend, katie phang, attorney and host of the katie phang show right here on msnbc and our other friend, justice and legal affairs analyst, anthony coley. coley is a former senior advisor to attorney general merrick garland. >> anthony coley wrote a piece for msnbc.com talking and has tweets. that without sufficient evidence that the district attorney -- and the prosecution, you talk about willis making a strong argument for why she said stay on the case against trump but she needs to remove her team, the attorney from whom she had a personal relationship. you talked about the second one we put up months ago. you said month ago that nathan wade has to go. fani willis should stay. you had some tweets yesterday. talk to us about how you see this. you yourself are not an attorney but you said the chief attorney of the country, how do you see this situation playing out in georgia? >> you saw nathan wade, from all accounts, he is a good dude but his cont
or fani willis resigned. joining us to discuss it all is our friend, katie phang, attorney and host of the katie phang show right here on msnbc and our other friend, justice and legal affairs analyst, anthony coley. coley is a former senior advisor to attorney general merrick garland. >> anthony coley wrote a piece for msnbc.com talking and has tweets. that without sufficient evidence that the district attorney -- and the prosecution, you talk about willis making a strong argument for why...
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so we don't really know when and how fani willis will decide. we did even radio out to her office for comment, have not heard back. but to your second question about what has been the response, well, there has been two comments that we've received, one from the lawyer for trump that was particularly strong about the disappointment that they had in this ruling and they will chase down any and all available remedies on appeal for his client donald trump. but ashley merchant responded to us, and she is the lawyer representing michael roman, a known gop off difference, ashley merchant filed the original motion to disqualify and dismiss. and she said while we believe the court should have disqualified willis' office entirely, this opinion is a vindication that everything put forth by the defense was true, accurate and relevant to the issues surrounding the trial. and the judge clearly agreed it was a result of her poor judgment and there is a risk to the future of this case. while we do not agree that the courts suggested cure is inadequate, we look
so we don't really know when and how fani willis will decide. we did even radio out to her office for comment, have not heard back. but to your second question about what has been the response, well, there has been two comments that we've received, one from the lawyer for trump that was particularly strong about the disappointment that they had in this ruling and they will chase down any and all available remedies on appeal for his client donald trump. but ashley merchant responded to us, and...
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fani willis. >> i am going to do specific rebuttal. the state makes an argument that we should have asked mr. wade questions about his relationship and communications with mr mr. bradley and the counsel objected over and over, claiming everything they were told by wade was attorney-client privilege. your honor made determinations to bradley. we did not get the opportunity to call him back to the stand. it is a false position to take, as disingenuous as it can be. we will be happy to call mr. wade back to the stand but there could be no confrontation of mr. wade when his counsel in the state are arguing it shouldn't be done. second, let's use common sense here. forensic misconduct received about 2 minutes worth of discussion. the rest is all on conflict. misconduct dealing with the state is if you don't accuse someone or you don't say someone is guilty. >> judge mcafee: assuming you can impugn someone's character to the degree it constitutes forensic misconduct, i guess the primary position was the
fani willis. >> i am going to do specific rebuttal. the state makes an argument that we should have asked mr. wade questions about his relationship and communications with mr mr. bradley and the counsel objected over and over, claiming everything they were told by wade was attorney-client privilege. your honor made determinations to bradley. we did not get the opportunity to call him back to the stand. it is a false position to take, as disingenuous as it can be. we will be happy to call...
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their exercise of legal rights despite all of the misconduct draw -- judge mcafee ruled that fani willis' free and clear to continue her quest against all drop as long as she cans her former or current 654,000-dollar lover nathan wade does that make sense right on cue earlier today wade officially resigned it appears that willis through wade right under the bus naturally the taxpayers of georgia will not be receiving a refund and fani willis will not face any legal counsel princes pointing out george mcafee ruled that only one potential lawyer can prosecute the case but not both potential lawyers, does that make any sense. of course not, but she is a democrat trying to prosecute all trump so i guess that apparently she is probably above the law still the media mob but this as a devastating blow fani willis is now embarrassing them and making their case against all trump look petty and stupid which it was from the beginning and now watch this. >> this is such a huge body blow almost a fatal blow to fani willis i think that the way forward is that she has to voluntarily recuse herself i do
their exercise of legal rights despite all of the misconduct draw -- judge mcafee ruled that fani willis' free and clear to continue her quest against all drop as long as she cans her former or current 654,000-dollar lover nathan wade does that make sense right on cue earlier today wade officially resigned it appears that willis through wade right under the bus naturally the taxpayers of georgia will not be receiving a refund and fani willis will not face any legal counsel princes pointing out...
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willis and nathan wade testified truthfully and whether there was a financial benefit to fani willis, but the evidence came in in my view, in a very muddled sort of confused fashion. and it's going to come down to the judge's decision. the judges discretion which evidence does he believe? does he believe fani? willis and nathan wade? does he believe the other witnesses? does he how much credit does he give this cell records? that's a really exceedingly difficult call. you could see the judge today starting to wrestle with some of those issues. so he's going to go back into his chambers. he's going to spend two weeks trying to work it out and then he'll give us that decision and neither way would surprise me >> interesting, gloria, gloria borger versions with us as well, even if willis isn't disqualified in this case, the district attorney's office certainly seems to have suffered a bit right now, at least with the jury pool. >> don't forget. as laura was saying, she's an elected official and they've spent weeks going down a rabbit hole about whether she behaved in properly and hired
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he is going to turn this into something against fani willis. they also believe that taking nathan wade off the case could help them in the long run because they have to bring someone else who is that person going to be? do they have to get caught up? again, this goes to that delay, delay, delay tactic, boris, kristen holmes, thanks so much for the reporting. appreciate it. as always. >> still have this hour on cnn news central, daylight reveals complete devastation in parts of indiana and ohio. after reported tornadoes tear through those states. our next guest says that buildings in her town are completely gone plus diplomats have tried to prevent it and humanitarian groups have been fearing it israelis prime minister says he has just approved plans for action in rafah the intends to evacuate palestinian civilians first the big question now, how and we're following a developing story that could have a major impact on how much it costs to buy and sell a home. the national association of realtors just agreed to a deal that would mix the standard
he is going to turn this into something against fani willis. they also believe that taking nathan wade off the case could help them in the long run because they have to bring someone else who is that person going to be? do they have to get caught up? again, this goes to that delay, delay, delay tactic, boris, kristen holmes, thanks so much for the reporting. appreciate it. as always. >> still have this hour on cnn news central, daylight reveals complete devastation in parts of indiana and...
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we're still waiting to hear from fani willis, the d.a. directly. we know that nathan wade, not a huge surprise has selfered himself from this case. now we're waiting to hear from her. >> wade didn't have any option. the judge said he could choose to resign. there was not much else he could do. if he didn't, the whole case would be taken out of the office. the only alternative was to go on an appeal that would delay the case further. the big question as you know is what will willis do? she has now had multiple opportunities to do the right thing, which recuse herself. every time that moment has come, she has declined to do so. she's put her personal interests ahead of the interests of her office and the people of fulton county. i can't imagine how even willis could go forward after this order and these damning findings from this judge. i mean, he goes in great detail about how she made unprofessional decisions in a litany of errors in her public statements, how she dealt with these allegations. she's damaged goods. that's not going to be to the adva
we're still waiting to hear from fani willis, the d.a. directly. we know that nathan wade, not a huge surprise has selfered himself from this case. now we're waiting to hear from her. >> wade didn't have any option. the judge said he could choose to resign. there was not much else he could do. if he didn't, the whole case would be taken out of the office. the only alternative was to go on an appeal that would delay the case further. the big question as you know is what will willis do? she...
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fani willis and nathan wade. the two are accused of having improper romantic relationship that could lead to them being disqualified from the trump case. steve harrigan. >> steve: closing arguments just minutes away. does the judge believe the d.a. and prosecutor she hired or did they lie under oath about when their relationship began? we've seen three days of fiery testimony in the seven-week-long drama, which sidelined election case in georgia. defense attorneys used eyewitness testimony, text and travel documents. >> if they were not telling the truth about when the affair started, the judge can decide they were not telling truth about cash reimbursement. if the judge believes cash reimbursement didn't take place, back to square 1, financial conflict of interest that could get her disqualified and end the entire case. >> the defense is trying to use cell phone record from the prosecutor nathan wade that show average of six calls per day, 30 messages per day for a year before the two said their relationship beg
fani willis and nathan wade. the two are accused of having improper romantic relationship that could lead to them being disqualified from the trump case. steve harrigan. >> steve: closing arguments just minutes away. does the judge believe the d.a. and prosecutor she hired or did they lie under oath about when their relationship began? we've seen three days of fiery testimony in the seven-week-long drama, which sidelined election case in georgia. defense attorneys used eyewitness...
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it was the closing arguments on the da fani willis is disqualified have a cation. now their job not fani willis, the job with those people who are moving to her that i keep it straight defense prosecution is all flipped right now. they have a burden to prove there was a conflict of interest. the judge today had a lot of questions about whether they connect those dots when you look at the fact that the judge brandi was focusing on whether an appearance of impropriety would be enough. does that bode well for fani willis >> it does not, but i don't think that they met the standard. i think that's why the judge has a lot of questions. i think that the state certainly argued that they think that you need to have an actual conflict. and here, i think they not only have not established an actual conflict, i don't think they've established even the air of impropriety. however, if they do establish air of impropriety, i do think that that's going to be enough to disqualify her while i don't think that she should be qualified. i think if the judge goes with the standard of a
it was the closing arguments on the da fani willis is disqualified have a cation. now their job not fani willis, the job with those people who are moving to her that i keep it straight defense prosecution is all flipped right now. they have a burden to prove there was a conflict of interest. the judge today had a lot of questions about whether they connect those dots when you look at the fact that the judge brandi was focusing on whether an appearance of impropriety would be enough. does that...
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has to go, but fani willis stays in place. and that case will be televised live nationally, which means that voters will see everything that happens before election day. evidence witnesses, maybe even trump himself. that will be broadcast daily while americans are deciding who to vote for. as early voting is open. and if fani willis gets her way, that trial will still start on august 5th. that's exactly three months before election day. willis has said she believes the trial could conclude in the very early part of 2025, which would be right around the time trump is sworn in, if he's elected. so the real question becomes, how quickly can the georgia case move forward without the top prosecutor, nathan wade, because he is forced to resign. so fani willis up on top she stays it's in place, but he has to leave and trump and his co-defendants and accused willis, of course, of profiting from her now ex-boyfriend, nathan wade and immediately after this decision, the fani willis got to stay on the case. trump's campaign quickly fundr
has to go, but fani willis stays in place. and that case will be televised live nationally, which means that voters will see everything that happens before election day. evidence witnesses, maybe even trump himself. that will be broadcast daily while americans are deciding who to vote for. as early voting is open. and if fani willis gets her way, that trial will still start on august 5th. that's exactly three months before election day. willis has said she believes the trial could conclude in...
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willis and nathan wade testified truthfully, and whether there was a financial benefit to fani willis, but the evidence came in in my view in a very muddled, sort of confused fashion. and it's going to come down to the judge's decision. the judges discretion which evidence does he believe does he believe fani willis and nathan wade? does he believe the other witnesses? does he how much credit does he give this cell records? that's a really exceedingly difficult call. you could see the judge today starting to wrestle with some of those issues. so he's gonna go back into his chambers. he's going to spend two weeks trying to work it out and then he'll give us that decision and neither way would surprise me. >> interesting, gloria, gloria borger is with us as well, even if willis isn't disqualified in this case, the district attorney's office certainly seems to have suffered a bit right now. at least with the jury pool. >> don't forget as laura was saying, she's an elected official and they've spent weeks going down a rabbit hole about whether she behaved in properly and hired her boyfrie
willis and nathan wade testified truthfully, and whether there was a financial benefit to fani willis, but the evidence came in in my view in a very muddled, sort of confused fashion. and it's going to come down to the judge's decision. the judges discretion which evidence does he believe does he believe fani willis and nathan wade? does he believe the other witnesses? does he how much credit does he give this cell records? that's a really exceedingly difficult call. you could see the judge...
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fani willis will likely be subpoenaed to testify before that. the shadow of what we have seen over the past two and a half months will linger for some time to come. >> andrew, let's talk about this case and get past the appearance of impropriety the judge is referring to. he is raising questions about the truthfulness of sworn testimony. does this give a wide opening to the defense? >> it does in a way that was just outlined. there are a number of ways that if the current structure of the leadership remains, there's going to be a lot -- i mean a lot for the defense to work with. i think you will see the defense trying to appeal this. i don't think they will get very far, but that will be a distraction. also, if you look at the decision on page 9, judge mcafee gives a road map of all the other people who may be interested in testimony that he is obviously questioning. he does not -- to be clear, he does not come out and say, i found that credible. that would have been a big win if he said, i found the d.a. and mr. wade were credible. instead he s
fani willis will likely be subpoenaed to testify before that. the shadow of what we have seen over the past two and a half months will linger for some time to come. >> andrew, let's talk about this case and get past the appearance of impropriety the judge is referring to. he is raising questions about the truthfulness of sworn testimony. does this give a wide opening to the defense? >> it does in a way that was just outlined. there are a number of ways that if the current structure...
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cupp by the judge had scathing words for fani willis in this ruling. does this ultimately play into trump's hands? >> 100%. i mean, we know that trump doesn't have a problem lying about these cases. >> anyway. and >> those lies are dangerous. and his fans believe them. but when there's a hint of impropriety, he doesn't have to lie. he can discredit the entire case, the entire office, and it doesn't have to be true, but he gets let's to do that with a bit more believability and not just this case, right? he wants to save the entire system is rigged against him. that affects every other case. he's up against. he will use this and fani willis's quote, unquote, unprofessionalism, her lapse in judgment judges words, he will use this to discredit all the cases around him. and i think her her actions, her decisions will have pretty big ramifications, not just legally for donald trump but politically in his favor. >> well, let me follow up with maria cardona marie, are you concerned the controversy around this case? as fundamentally damaged it in the eyes of t
cupp by the judge had scathing words for fani willis in this ruling. does this ultimately play into trump's hands? >> 100%. i mean, we know that trump doesn't have a problem lying about these cases. >> anyway. and >> those lies are dangerous. and his fans believe them. but when there's a hint of impropriety, he doesn't have to lie. he can discredit the entire case, the entire office, and it doesn't have to be true, but he gets let's to do that with a bit more believability and...
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but here the tables are sort of turns so that defendants are trying to disqualify fani willis. they have the burden of proof. >> all right. counselor, you can have a busy day. thank you very much for being with us. >> for sherling visits at the border. president biden, for and former president trump meeting with local officials as when they were there. and now the mayor of breath sounds bill texas, where president biden just was he joins us next. also, an emotional day of testimony as the assistant director for the movie rust recalls his final moments with the film's cinematographer halyna hutchins who was my recollection that i might have been the first person to her. she was on the ground what did you say >> are you all right? >> did she respond >> yes. she said i can't feel my legs at least one person has been arrested, 22 others detained for trying to attend the funeral of russian opposition leader alexei navalny. we have more for updates, how this is playing out in moscow today. thousands of people risking their lives and freedom to be there will be back eliot spitzer, cru
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paula nathan wade resigned and fani willis is staying. but this ruling from the judge was pretty scathing. it did not leave her without some black marks on her reputation. >> that's exactly right. well, the judge found that she did not engage in a corrupt scheme to profit from investigating trump and his associates. he criticized her judgment, her honesty, and her professionalism, and now, abby, she's gonna go into a court of law in try a case in front of the same judge, and then let's talk about the court of public opinion. we know trump is trying to undermine trust in the judicial system. he goes after anyone who invested gates him, or brings a case against him. here. he doesn't even need to make things up. you can just quote from this opinion. so she certainly is not emerging unscathed, but this is a self-inflicted wound it certainly is an elliott. do you think that ultimately this will have an effect on the case at all to have the lead prosecutor suddenly yanked off of it when they're trying to move this case quickly forward. >> oh, l
paula nathan wade resigned and fani willis is staying. but this ruling from the judge was pretty scathing. it did not leave her without some black marks on her reputation. >> that's exactly right. well, the judge found that she did not engage in a corrupt scheme to profit from investigating trump and his associates. he criticized her judgment, her honesty, and her professionalism, and now, abby, she's gonna go into a court of law in try a case in front of the same judge, and then let's...
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and for fani willis, this is eyes on the prize. there is a mountain of evidence that donald trump and his coconspirators allegedly were involved in one of the most egregious in serious crimes. and american history, as they try to overturn and still in american election, that is the bottom line. and whenever this case gets tried and it probably won't happen, maybe it will, but democrats cannot focus on will perhaps this is going to be one of the things that brings down donald trump. no, we have to do that on our own. but whenever it happens, this is going to be something where donald trump, even if he gets elected, is not going to be able to make this go away. so i think at some point he is going to have to face the music for those very serious alleged crimes. and let's also keep in mind that even with the scathing commentary of this judge fani willis is a very popular da, where she is from. and with all due respect to his honor, i disagree and i know many many women disagree about his commentary on her testimony. they thought that
and for fani willis, this is eyes on the prize. there is a mountain of evidence that donald trump and his coconspirators allegedly were involved in one of the most egregious in serious crimes. and american history, as they try to overturn and still in american election, that is the bottom line. and whenever this case gets tried and it probably won't happen, maybe it will, but democrats cannot focus on will perhaps this is going to be one of the things that brings down donald trump. no, we have...
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. >> this is such a huge body blow, almost a fatal blow to fani willis. i think the way forward is she has to voluntarily recuse herself. i don't know that she has it in her, but i think she has to say i'm going to appoint a chief assistant who's going to oversee this case. >> joining me now is melissa murray and a former fellow prosecutor in the northern district of illinois. thank you for getting us started. renata, to you. to the fdny cases that have been happening in tranches. alvin bragg's office created egregious violations that the case should be dismissed. what are your thoughts? >> don't see a basis for dismissal. what alvin and his bragg did was warranted saying there has to be some delay to go through the documents. the real question is why did the southern district of new york wait so long to dump the documents when they could have released them many months ago? i think there's a lot of questions about their judgment. these are documents the manhattan da's office has been seeking for many months. originally the u.s. attorney's office said they
. >> this is such a huge body blow, almost a fatal blow to fani willis. i think the way forward is she has to voluntarily recuse herself. i don't know that she has it in her, but i think she has to say i'm going to appoint a chief assistant who's going to oversee this case. >> joining me now is melissa murray and a former fellow prosecutor in the northern district of illinois. thank you for getting us started. renata, to you. to the fdny cases that have been happening in tranches....
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disqualified because of fani willis's romantic relationship with nathan wade. one of the special prosecutors she hired to assist her with the case. a ruling on that issue is expected by end of this week. kayleigh. >> kayleigh: thank you, jonathan. emily, i was reading footnote that listed counts that are quashed for lack of specificity. how monumental is this in the case? >> emily: the error itself is colossal and i want to send message appropriately of what a rookie mistake it is. first year in law school you learn standards of pleading and same for warrants and subpoenas, we talk about that a lot. it is fundamental and mayor rudy giuliani said it there, without it, the defendant does not know what to defend against. on pleading, your initial threshold step, district attorney failed to do so hallmarks what a rookie she is, how sloppy this has been, how utterly a sham this entire procedure has been and she's making mockery of herself and the courts. the overacts these relate to and they can still stand in the pleadings, there is different standards. she needed
disqualified because of fani willis's romantic relationship with nathan wade. one of the special prosecutors she hired to assist her with the case. a ruling on that issue is expected by end of this week. kayleigh. >> kayleigh: thank you, jonathan. emily, i was reading footnote that listed counts that are quashed for lack of specificity. how monumental is this in the case? >> emily: the error itself is colossal and i want to send message appropriately of what a rookie mistake it is....
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fani willis has accepted it immediately. we just obtained not only nathan wade's resignation letter but fani willis's response. he said. although the court found the defendants failed to meet their burden of proving a conflict of interest wade goes on to say i am offering my resignation in the interest of democracy, in dedication to the american public, and to move this case forward as quickly as possible. that is the key, ellison, since we broke the news early this morning the big question has been what's going to happen next, and namely, what is fani willis going to do and when is she going to do it? that was the thing that was holding up this prosecution, once nathan wade is removed from the equation she is free to move forward in the prosecution of this case. she accepted his resignation as well today, i want to read you a little bit of what she said. she basically is thanking him for his professionalism, and dignity he's shown over the last 865 days, the amount of time he spent on this case, and then she goes on to unde
fani willis has accepted it immediately. we just obtained not only nathan wade's resignation letter but fani willis's response. he said. although the court found the defendants failed to meet their burden of proving a conflict of interest wade goes on to say i am offering my resignation in the interest of democracy, in dedication to the american public, and to move this case forward as quickly as possible. that is the key, ellison, since we broke the news early this morning the big question has...
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that it is far from over and fani willis may not be safe. there are other avenues for her dismissal, the georgia senate has opened its own misconduct investigation. in fact, governor kemp or georgia attorney general christopher carr could appoint a special prosecutor to investigate and possibly disqualify willis depending on its findings. your take. >> that's certainly true. this is going to continue to undermine the prosecution. from the very beginning of this controversy, willis has put her interests and those of mr. wade ahead of her case, ahead of the interests of the people of fulton county, and ahead of her office. that's one of the things that is most shocking about this. she should have recused herself weeks ago. there is this disconnect in the opinion. i get much of what the judge is saying. he has done a fine job. he has been fair, he has tried to get it right. and i get it when he says look, i can't say that this relationship is the reason that she brought this case. that's true. unfortunately, the case was not brought for persona
that it is far from over and fani willis may not be safe. there are other avenues for her dismissal, the georgia senate has opened its own misconduct investigation. in fact, governor kemp or georgia attorney general christopher carr could appoint a special prosecutor to investigate and possibly disqualify willis depending on its findings. your take. >> that's certainly true. this is going to continue to undermine the prosecution. from the very beginning of this controversy, willis has put...
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he wrote this and i'm quoting him now, the fani willis lover, mr. nathan wade, esquire, as just resigned in disgrace. nathan with the special in more ways than one prosecutor engaged by fani pronounced fani willis to prosecute, to persecute trump for crooked joe biden and his department of injustice for purposes of election interference and living the life of the rich and famous so what do you make of this? >> well, this has just donald trump gloating, which is something i think we've come to expect in a way. his team did have a real victory, even though fani willis is staying on the case. this is going to delay the case for him and i think he's should be very happy about that. but this gives him an opportunity to continue to undermine the justice department. the way cases are conducted. and even though this is a state case, it's going to be important in the election because it's the state of georgia, which is a very important kaye state. and it's up for grabs and if he can continue to say that the district attorney, who's up for reelection in the s
he wrote this and i'm quoting him now, the fani willis lover, mr. nathan wade, esquire, as just resigned in disgrace. nathan with the special in more ways than one prosecutor engaged by fani pronounced fani willis to prosecute, to persecute trump for crooked joe biden and his department of injustice for purposes of election interference and living the life of the rich and famous so what do you make of this? >> well, this has just donald trump gloating, which is something i think we've...
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they're not thinking about fani willis bradley mass. appreciate the analysis. thanks for joining us anytime >> brianna, former president trump is already fundraising off of judge mcafee is ruling to put things into perspective here, his campaign sending out this text to supporters not long after the decision was handed down here, trump's legal team also releasing this statement, slamming the ruling while respecting the court's decision, we believed that the court did not afford appropriate significance to the prosecutorial misconduct of willis and wade including the financial benefits testifying on truthfully about when their personal relationship began, as well as willis's extra judicial mlk church speech, where she played they'd the race card and falsely accused the defendants and their counsel of racism we will use all legal options available as we continue to fight to end this case, which should never have been brought in the first place. let's talk about this now. a cnn senior political analyst, ron brownstein and republican strategist matt gorman all righ
they're not thinking about fani willis bradley mass. appreciate the analysis. thanks for joining us anytime >> brianna, former president trump is already fundraising off of judge mcafee is ruling to put things into perspective here, his campaign sending out this text to supporters not long after the decision was handed down here, trump's legal team also releasing this statement, slamming the ruling while respecting the court's decision, we believed that the court did not afford...
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fani willis. in fact, at the original setting of the evidentiary hearing, he was actually doing the oral arguments on some of these motions. and i think that's really telling that we're getting this order today. it shows that judge mcafee is doing the work that needs to be done, and, number two, i think it also shows -- in my opinion -- why would you be doing this if you're going to disqualify fani willis anyway. don't hold me to this, it is not gospel, but i think that is an interesting thing that you're getting this order now, but this was going to happen no matter what, jose. this is not some big tell that this indictment is fatally going to be going away one day. in fact, to catherine's point, it is very clear this indictment is still in play, just portions of it are now gone. >> and so as we have been talking about, this comes at a time when we're still awaiting the decision from judge mcafee on whether to disqualify d.a. fani willis from this case. the judge has intimated he essentially has
fani willis. in fact, at the original setting of the evidentiary hearing, he was actually doing the oral arguments on some of these motions. and i think that's really telling that we're getting this order today. it shows that judge mcafee is doing the work that needs to be done, and, number two, i think it also shows -- in my opinion -- why would you be doing this if you're going to disqualify fani willis anyway. don't hold me to this, it is not gospel, but i think that is an interesting thing...
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fani willis accepted nathan wade's resignation meeting the case will move forward as planned. consider that even in losing, trump world got most of what it wanted. as we speak, there are emails flooding inboxes, disingenuously shouting "look here, fani willis is corrupt ." there's no legitimacy to that but it goes beyond those attacks, considering the motion to remove tran 16 and wade from the case, filed january 8th. trumps team ran out the clock for two months, and exasperated the development, given what we discussed yesterday. that is how successful trump has been in deploying a topic -- a tactic of delay. it's a potential offramp for the disgraced ex-president and his legal troubles and eight months separate the american people from the prospect of that bid although, we should never forget what this case was about, a sitting president actively working to undermine the result of a free and fair election and here's what happened when it did. >> calling for backup. >> they were peaceful people, these are great people. the crowd was unbelievable and i mentioned the love, the l
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he worked for fani willis and the fulton county da office and donated $150 to fani willis's campaign. there is very clear evidence that fani willis had in illegal financial stake in this criminal prosecution of president trump. she hired her secret unqualified boyfriend and gave him $250 an horico charge against president trump and 18 co-defendants. he built $17,000 and counting. he billed for his time to collude with the biden white house. faith and wait took his girlfriend -- nathan wade took his girlfriend,/boss on these trips to napa valley, the caribbean. that is bribery. those are violations. that is in illegal financial stake in a criminal prosecution that is illegal. she should have been disqualified. the entire office should have been disqualified if this judge mcafee followed the facts and the law as he should have. there is been disqualified in the office should have been disqualified. the case should have been dismissed without prejudice for a new prosecutor but doubt that judge mcafee faces a democrat judicial election challenger for this november and this overwhelmingly
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that's how a judge summed up the behavior of district attorney fani willis. well, ruling she can stay on trump's election racketeering case in georgia. but under one condition, for live with the fulton county courthouse with all the breaking details, plus running out the clock. it's team trump's legal and political strategy with multiple court dates. now on hold. >> it is paused so voters could decide the former president's beit before any of his cases reach a jury. and the white house has a message for republicans trying to impeach president biden, move on >> shockingly, >> the house may listen, will bring you that new sin and reporting this hour. i'm dana bash. let's go behind the headlines inside politics we start in georgia where a judge just ruled that da fani willis willis can continue spearheading the election case. they are against donald trump if she removes her top deputy in the case, nathan wade, with whom she has had a romantic relationship that is part of a win for the district attorney, but the rest of the ruling leaves a major stain. the judge
that's how a judge summed up the behavior of district attorney fani willis. well, ruling she can stay on trump's election racketeering case in georgia. but under one condition, for live with the fulton county courthouse with all the breaking details, plus running out the clock. it's team trump's legal and political strategy with multiple court dates. now on hold. >> it is paused so voters could decide the former president's beit before any of his cases reach a jury. and the white house...
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knotts like let's just make this about fani willis. there are rules that she appears to have violated in hiring nathan wade from the get go that jeopardize the legitimacy of the case. people are say saying, two-thirds of americans in some of these cases say these prosecutions against the president are political. it's really important that the public has confidence in our legal system and in our elections. 40. howard: yeah. >> and talking about whether this is election interference, trying to put trump on trial and put him in jail so that he can't run for president. it's all important. that that's why the legitimacy of this case and the way it was conducted by fannie willis is extremely important. howard: i have another question for you, richard, but just briefly, if fani willis is thrown off the case, that's the judge's decision, this could be the end of the rio --ly coe prosecution. >> it could be with. there's been a number of individuals, folks who have been on this, folks in other places who have already taken plea bar gains, alrea
knotts like let's just make this about fani willis. there are rules that she appears to have violated in hiring nathan wade from the get go that jeopardize the legitimacy of the case. people are say saying, two-thirds of americans in some of these cases say these prosecutions against the president are political. it's really important that the public has confidence in our legal system and in our elections. 40. howard: yeah. >> and talking about whether this is election interference, trying...
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>> there are republican efforts to investigate fani willis. where do they stand >> yeah. >> it looks like one of the people that are trying to one of the people who are trying to slow down this case, that volume bowles was talking about is congressman jim jordan, the republican close ally of donald trump. he issued a subpoena to willis for documents from her office related to their financial records several months ago, fani willis responding yesterday, providing some documents, but also hitting back at jordan and accusing him of conducting a political investigation into her office. she wrote back in her letter yesterday saying nothing that you do will derail the efforts of my staff and i to bring the election interference prosecution to trial. my family, my staff, and i have been threatened repeatedly by people making violent, often racist attacks. neither those threads nor anything your colleagues and you say or do will deter us from fulfilling our duty to bring this case to trial. so obviously willis defiant, just on the heels of this effort
>> there are republican efforts to investigate fani willis. where do they stand >> yeah. >> it looks like one of the people that are trying to one of the people who are trying to slow down this case, that volume bowles was talking about is congressman jim jordan, the republican close ally of donald trump. he issued a subpoena to willis for documents from her office related to their financial records several months ago, fani willis responding yesterday, providing some...
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there are emails flooding inboxes shouting look here, and fani willis is corrupt. no legitimacy to that but it goes even beyond those attacks. consider the motion to remove fani willis and wade from the fulton county case filed on january 8th, 67 days ago. trumps team run out the clock for two months, and exceptionally exasperating development for the role of locke crowd given what we discussed on this program yesterday. that is how do successful trump has been an employee in the tactic of delay at all costs. election day a potential offramp for the disgraced ex- president and his legal troubles and only eight months now separate the american people from the prospect of that although we should never forget what this case was about. it is about a sitting president actively working to undermine the results of a free and fair election and this is what happened when he did. so, despite hours of droning punditry about what did and did not happen there, that is what this is about and the upshot is this, team trump came for the king and the queen in this instance and they
there are emails flooding inboxes shouting look here, and fani willis is corrupt. no legitimacy to that but it goes even beyond those attacks. consider the motion to remove fani willis and wade from the fulton county case filed on january 8th, 67 days ago. trumps team run out the clock for two months, and exceptionally exasperating development for the role of locke crowd given what we discussed on this program yesterday. that is how do successful trump has been an employee in the tactic of...
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laura coates live starts right now well fani >> willis survives what this case is playing out in two very different courts. one is the court of law and the other the court of public opinion. tonight on laura coates live all right so. >> now we know the answer to the question we've been waiting months to actually find out fani willis is not disqualified from prosecuting donald trump and his co-defendants. >> but the judge, he didn't just issue a ruling judge mcafee issued an ultimatum >> either. she goes >> or nathan wade goes nathan wade went. >> and if you'd thought robert hur's one line throwing some shade at president biden was savage while judge mcafee is order hardly had any sunlight when it came to willis and wade, although there were moments that he recognized that the burden had not been met to show that they in fact, had a conflict of interests that made a fair trial impossible. >> there's >> one particular quote, georgia law does not permit the finding of an actual conflict for simply making bad choices. >> in repeatedly >> all the scrutiny of fani willis and nathan wade an
laura coates live starts right now well fani >> willis survives what this case is playing out in two very different courts. one is the court of law and the other the court of public opinion. tonight on laura coates live all right so. >> now we know the answer to the question we've been waiting months to actually find out fani willis is not disqualified from prosecuting donald trump and his co-defendants. >> but the judge, he didn't just issue a ruling judge mcafee issued an...
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fani willis. i think the way ford fan is shes to voluntarily recuse herself. i don't know that she hantarilys in her. >> the dea should consider recusing herself as well as thee case moves forward to allow it to do so cleanly. langu >> all of this, especially this language from the judge, and we're just giving the opinion right no judgengw. i'm sure there's there's likely more. it's really a gift to former president trumt itp and his co-defendants because they're not only going to fight this case on the merits. onlgointo fightthey fight it ii of public opinion. optics here, not anyinio one of these statements by a judge would be a career ender for a normal prosecuto star to t an on the record finding that there are reasonable questions about whether you liedn th tha under oath.ting that would be that would be devastating. and we'll see what the political effects will be. the bottom line, the d.aliticali survives, but not without serious bruising, to use your analogy, sir. >>si your ana now, even "
fani willis. i think the way ford fan is shes to voluntarily recuse herself. i don't know that she hantarilys in her. >> the dea should consider recusing herself as well as thee case moves forward to allow it to do so cleanly. langu >> all of this, especially this language from the judge, and we're just giving the opinion right no judgengw. i'm sure there's there's likely more. it's really a gift to former president trumt itp and his co-defendants because they're not only going to...
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and gave fani willis and ultimatum to either she and her office leave the case, or wade. in a letter wade writes, he is resigning to move this case forward as quickly as possible. for willis, friday's ruling is a legal victory, but a professional below. following this stunning two hour testimony. >> it is a lie. >> judge scott mcafee holding what he called her, a professional manner, on the stand. not dismissing the case out right as a defense that asked, mcafee takes willis to task over, " this tremendous lapse in judgment. " trump attorney says he will , " use all legal options available as we continue to fight to end this case. " alex, we have heard from a couple of the defense attorneys who are part of the motion to remove fani willis. a couple have said they are essentially considering all options in response to the decision. one has a ready indicated that an appeal is not off the table in this situation alex. >> stay with me. i have a few more questions on the georgia case. as we have been discussing, there is a lot to discuss regarding former president trump legall
and gave fani willis and ultimatum to either she and her office leave the case, or wade. in a letter wade writes, he is resigning to move this case forward as quickly as possible. for willis, friday's ruling is a legal victory, but a professional below. following this stunning two hour testimony. >> it is a lie. >> judge scott mcafee holding what he called her, a professional manner, on the stand. not dismissing the case out right as a defense that asked, mcafee takes willis to task...
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it will come down to fani willis, does the judge believe her? he's making the decisions in this case, there is no jury in this part. here is what fani willis said. >> i want to be clear, my credibility is being evaluated. we were friends and hung out prior to 2021. in november of 2021, i hired him, i do not consider our relationship romantic until 2022. >> todd: based on the evidence, if the judge determines fani willis lied under oath, what happens to the trump prosecution and what happens to her career in this county where she is prosecutor? >> there are several different issues, fani willis has her own issue as an attorney if she perjuries herself. that would undercut the entire case. whether he dismisses the case, that is another decision. every attorney at fani willis's office would be disqualified. would another prosecutor's office pick it up? that would severely delay it. for fani willis's purposes, she will face investigation by the state bar in terms of re-electability. many things to be determined. >> todd: peep kel lie on the stand an
it will come down to fani willis, does the judge believe her? he's making the decisions in this case, there is no jury in this part. here is what fani willis said. >> i want to be clear, my credibility is being evaluated. we were friends and hung out prior to 2021. in november of 2021, i hired him, i do not consider our relationship romantic until 2022. >> todd: based on the evidence, if the judge determines fani willis lied under oath, what happens to the trump prosecution and what...
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fani willis this week. the lawyer who exposed the potential conflict of interest between willis and nathan wade testified before a georgia senate committee alleging that wade was paid nearly double the salary of his other colleagues. listen. >> pretty much zero in my opinion come identification. this is not something we would be able to submit to a client ever. i can imagine, if i build him $2,000 for eight hours of meeting with a team in one day, and just research what i'm researching, you have to be detailed in your bills here with that is accountability and as lawyers that is the only way to be accountable. >> dana: criminal defense attorney brian claypool joins us now. major allegations and that testimony. let's break it down one by one starting with what you heard there from ashley merchant let nathan wade earned more than double the salaries of his colleagues and that the accounting for how he was paid and what he was paid for is opaque. what do you make of that? hey, gillian, great to see you again.
fani willis this week. the lawyer who exposed the potential conflict of interest between willis and nathan wade testified before a georgia senate committee alleging that wade was paid nearly double the salary of his other colleagues. listen. >> pretty much zero in my opinion come identification. this is not something we would be able to submit to a client ever. i can imagine, if i build him $2,000 for eight hours of meeting with a team in one day, and just research what i'm researching,...