do you remember specifically about joe lieberman >> i learned so much about joe on those trips. he had a wonderful sense of humor and a understanding a knowledge of history that was really unsurpassed he was a great counter to john mccain and a lot of ways because he ps always calm and reasonable and john would get pretty fired up at times and i remember we went to afghanistan together right after hamad karzai, the leader at than smuggled back into the country. and our meeting in a patched army tent with them i learned so much from joe >> one of the >> best stories that i can tell you is we once had this long discussion about guilt and he of course bao zhu, i am a catholic we finally agree that his words, that his people invented it. my people perfected that was typical philosophical and yet funny conversations that we would have >> yeah, that does very much sound like like senator lieberman i'm sure you know that john mccain seriously considered joe lieberman to be his running mate in 2008. i want you to listen to what liebermann recounted to me. he recounted a conversation tha