iowa senator joni ernst says she wants to end secret spending by the administration. she wants to end what are called, what are labeled other transaction agreements. do you know what these secret transactions are, mr. senator? >> i know that it's a way for the biden administration if just to kind of put money where they want to without the more than people knowing it. and if -- the more than people knowing it. and if you're trying to hide something from the american people, that's a bad thing. stuart: do these payments, secret payments, amount to a whole hill of beans? >> oh, it does. $40 million a pop, and $40 million a pop adding up to large sum of money. so it's not just the principle, you're hiding it from the american people, it's the amount which is actually a drain on the federal f if isc. stuart: mr. senator, thank you very much for being with us. by the way, senator joniensst will be here in the 11:00 hour to dig deeper into her bill on biden's secret spending. >>> i want to check futures. this is getting real interesting now. they're all in the green. not as