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when a jack smith's indictment comes out, we learn stuff. we're never gonna be able to predict everything that's in it before comes out. andrew weissmann and barbara mcquade, thank you for starting off our important discussions tonight. coming, up harvard law professor laurence tribe joins us next to consider the question of exactly which crimes jack smith's grand jury might include in the next round of trump indictments. professor laurence tribe is next. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor, you're an owner. our financial planning tools and advice can help you prepare for today's longer retirement. hi mom. that's the value of ownership. my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. somedays, i cover up because of my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now i feel free to bare my skin, thanks to skyrizi. ♪(uplifting music)♪ ♪nothing is everything♪ i'm celebra
when a jack smith's indictment comes out, we learn stuff. we're never gonna be able to predict everything that's in it before comes out. andrew weissmann and barbara mcquade, thank you for starting off our important discussions tonight. coming, up harvard law professor laurence tribe joins us next to consider the question of exactly which crimes jack smith's grand jury might include in the next round of trump indictments. professor laurence tribe is next. only at vanguard, you're more than just...
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you said jack smith hit back hard. i would agree with that with andrew, this is a persuasive court pleading. a model of clarity, of brevity, of persuasion. it is only ten pages, double spaced. it's a quick, easy read. i would urge people to read it, because it is clear. jack smith and his team don't mince words. they don't pull punches. and i was really kind of excited when i read it, because it feels like a sign of the prosecution to calm. and i sink that they are going to continue to insist on a timely trial date, and in fact on page one of this reading they highlight how the trump defense team failed. and really, in its most important endeavor, when they filed their pleading on july 10th. they said judge, don't set a trial date. one of the first things jacks mitt pointed out, is the trial act says, the judge shall set a date certain for the trial to begin. so they really just sort of embarrass the trump defense team's request and they don't let up for the ten pages. so i am encouraged that this is what we can expect
you said jack smith hit back hard. i would agree with that with andrew, this is a persuasive court pleading. a model of clarity, of brevity, of persuasion. it is only ten pages, double spaced. it's a quick, easy read. i would urge people to read it, because it is clear. jack smith and his team don't mince words. they don't pull punches. and i was really kind of excited when i read it, because it feels like a sign of the prosecution to calm. and i sink that they are going to continue to insist...
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when a jack smith's indictment comes out, we learned stuff. we're never gonna be able to predict everything that's in it before comes out. andrew weissmann and barbara mcquade, thank you for starting off our important discussions tonight. coming, up harvard law professor laurence tribe joins us next to consider the question of exactly which crimes jack smith's grand jury might include in the next round of trump indictments. professor laurence tribe is next. tribe i next family cookouts! [blowing] [dice roll] ♪ playing games! [party chatter] dancin in the par—! tv: try tide power pods with 85% more tide in every pod. who needs that much more tide? (crashing sounds) everyone's gonna need more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod. -see? -baby: ah. moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day. many tak
when a jack smith's indictment comes out, we learned stuff. we're never gonna be able to predict everything that's in it before comes out. andrew weissmann and barbara mcquade, thank you for starting off our important discussions tonight. coming, up harvard law professor laurence tribe joins us next to consider the question of exactly which crimes jack smith's grand jury might include in the next round of trump indictments. professor laurence tribe is next. tribe i next family cookouts!...
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jack smith sent a target letter to donald trump last sunday. you don't do that -- particularly against the former president -- unless you are pretty sure that you got the goods. and with respect to parlatore's two-week comment, i don't put much faith in that. i think that smith already has the goods. so, i suspect that we are gonna see it a lot closer than two weeks. and, you know, this is not rocket science. i mean, a federal judge, judge david carter, a very respected judge in california, has already said based on what the january 6th that tints committee uncovered, that it's more likely than not that donald trump committed very serious felonies. >> tim heaphy, is it possible, given the timing here of the target letter, that jack smith could be delivering indictments of donald trump within the next few days, or week, or so, but that the possible discussion of bernie kerik's material two weeks from now could be part of an additional element of that january 6th investigation, with additional defendants being named down the road? >> yes, lawrenc
jack smith sent a target letter to donald trump last sunday. you don't do that -- particularly against the former president -- unless you are pretty sure that you got the goods. and with respect to parlatore's two-week comment, i don't put much faith in that. i think that smith already has the goods. so, i suspect that we are gonna see it a lot closer than two weeks. and, you know, this is not rocket science. i mean, a federal judge, judge david carter, a very respected judge in california, has...
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smith's met letter to donald trump on sunday telling him that he is a target in jack smith's criminal investigation of events leading up to end on january 6th, attempting to overthrow the presidential election. donald trump had a very bad day in two different courts in new york city today in refusing to ultra quest for a new trial in the civil case with e. jean carroll the judge said, mr. trump raped her. those are the judges exact words, in clarifying with the evidence in the case actually proved to the jury. we will have more on that in this hour with law professor michele goodwin. also in manhattan today, a federal judge denied the donald trump's attempts to move manhattan district attorney alvin bragg's criminal prosecution of donald trump from state court to federal court. and so, that criminal case remains on track for trial in manhattan in march. nbc news is reporting that the target letter jack smith sent to donald trump refers to three specific potential charges. the new york times is building on that reporting tonight, adding more specificity. quote, two of the statutes were
smith's met letter to donald trump on sunday telling him that he is a target in jack smith's criminal investigation of events leading up to end on january 6th, attempting to overthrow the presidential election. donald trump had a very bad day in two different courts in new york city today in refusing to ultra quest for a new trial in the civil case with e. jean carroll the judge said, mr. trump raped her. those are the judges exact words, in clarifying with the evidence in the case actually...
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and if fake electors is being looked at by jack smith at the federal level, and was also being looked at by state prosecutors in georgia and state prosecutors in arizona, and state prosecutors in michigan, i mean, i couldn't do that merging with my high beams on -- on a dry noon day. you know? so i don't know how this is all gonna go, i am glad you've got the a-team there. >> well that is why we have the lawyers, that is what they're they're here for. exactly, our thanks to you, rachel. on the eve of the first significant pre-trial hearing in the case of united states of america versus donald j trump, defendant trump and his criminal defense lawyers were crushed, in another court, in another state. where donald trump is not yet a criminal defendant. as we were just saying the georgia supreme court emphatically and enthusiastically and very, very quickly dismissed donald trump 's attempt to block further proceedings in the criminal investigation against him for trying to overturn the presidential election results in georgia. former georgia district attorney gwen keyes fleming will join
and if fake electors is being looked at by jack smith at the federal level, and was also being looked at by state prosecutors in georgia and state prosecutors in arizona, and state prosecutors in michigan, i mean, i couldn't do that merging with my high beams on -- on a dry noon day. you know? so i don't know how this is all gonna go, i am glad you've got the a-team there. >> well that is why we have the lawyers, that is what they're they're here for. exactly, our thanks to you, rachel....
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jack smith, i turned, out didn't do insurrection. fani willis, people have been talking about, will she do rico? rico is as big and sprawling as it gets. it also can be confusing to juries. it is hard to bring home. i think she may have taken a page from jack smith spoke and streamlined a bit. at least that is what the guardian article might suggest. that is the first thing i will be looking for. for my money, as a prosecutor, maybe christie agree, you learn more and more simple window down as much as you can and the prospect of a rico trial with 18 defendants and the like, i think it poses real logistical and legal challenges for fani willis. >> christie, a quick reaction to what harry just said? >> it is really hard to say. i think she has been amassing evidence from so many different sources over two-year period. it does seem as though she has really penetrated donald trump's inner circle. so, i would not be surprised -- and she is a rico specialist. she is very comfortable with that statute. she has charged it in the past in spra
jack smith, i turned, out didn't do insurrection. fani willis, people have been talking about, will she do rico? rico is as big and sprawling as it gets. it also can be confusing to juries. it is hard to bring home. i think she may have taken a page from jack smith spoke and streamlined a bit. at least that is what the guardian article might suggest. that is the first thing i will be looking for. for my money, as a prosecutor, maybe christie agree, you learn more and more simple window down as...
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i hope jack smith, and i believe in jack smith, that he will get them especially cipollone to answer questions he would not answer for the very sixth committee. he would walk up to conversations he had with donald trump, but wouldn't describe most of those conversations. we didn't have that time or the enforcement ability to compel him to do so. i hope that the special counsel -- >> yes, he would claim a kind of nonexistent executive privilege over these conversations, with you -- >> oh, yes. and you know what's more? we've seen judges like judge carter out in california, who pierced the attorney client privilege. we saw that again with the judge in florida for different reasons. you cannot use that privilege to hide criminal activity. and i would hope that the special counsel got the answers we didn't because even if something in that meeting in december is not the subject of a charge per se, it could be very important for showing the president's knowledge that he lost the election, his willingness to defraud people, the extreme steps he would take. that could be very powerful evide
i hope jack smith, and i believe in jack smith, that he will get them especially cipollone to answer questions he would not answer for the very sixth committee. he would walk up to conversations he had with donald trump, but wouldn't describe most of those conversations. we didn't have that time or the enforcement ability to compel him to do so. i hope that the special counsel -- >> yes, he would claim a kind of nonexistent executive privilege over these conversations, with you --...
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can you speculate about how jack smith knows the contents of that phone call between those two people? >> i can only think of two possibilities that are sort of plausible. one is that we know that de oliveira was interviewed in january of 20 2023 by the fbi. that forms the basis of one of the charges against him for making false statements in that interview. it is possible that he revealed this information in that interview. that is one possibility. i'm not really sure that would be the basis for this, because, as i mentioned, the government is saying that he lied in that interview, so i'm not sure you really want to rely on the truth of something he said. and then also be charging him with lying during that interview. because how do you know this is truthful? as opposed to another lie. the second way is, it is actually, given the timing, it is possible that the fbi or some other agency was up on a wire. remember, this is a conversation that is happening a couple of weeks after the search was conducted at mar-a-lago. and if you are concerned, from a national security point of view, ab
can you speculate about how jack smith knows the contents of that phone call between those two people? >> i can only think of two possibilities that are sort of plausible. one is that we know that de oliveira was interviewed in january of 20 2023 by the fbi. that forms the basis of one of the charges against him for making false statements in that interview. it is possible that he revealed this information in that interview. that is one possibility. i'm not really sure that would be the...
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so jack smith's not done yet. he wants to win this case and the best way to do that is to talk to every single person at mar-a-lago, reportedly he's interviewed every secret service agent already, he's apparently talking to every single employee. he's trying to do what every good prosecutor does, they want to win their case in one of the ways they do that is to understand what people will testify to try to think about what trump's defense might be and to isolate any witnesses who might support him to get the statements and at that in advance so if they say anything different during a trial, jack smith can charge them with perjury. >> what about you, kristie? what do you think about the reports that the grand jury still active? >> i agree with paul. it's not surprising that they would continue to investigate. it does not look like he is -- going to cooperate, he hasn't even been arraigned yet. and really, there's a real question there as to why he doesn't even have a lawyer who has filed a notice of a chance for hi
so jack smith's not done yet. he wants to win this case and the best way to do that is to talk to every single person at mar-a-lago, reportedly he's interviewed every secret service agent already, he's apparently talking to every single employee. he's trying to do what every good prosecutor does, they want to win their case in one of the ways they do that is to understand what people will testify to try to think about what trump's defense might be and to isolate any witnesses who might support...
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do you think that jack smith is on the right path right now? >> well, you know, i don't know specifically which statutory offenses they are looking at. we sent them corrupt interference with a federal proceeding, obstruction of a federal proceeding. we sent them defrauding the united states, which is a closely related charge, trying to cheat us out of an honest election with integrity. the filing a false statements through the fraudulent electors, which they asserted were the actual electors from the states, although they were not. and then incitement and insisting and aiding and abetting and giving aid and comfort to an incitement, which, obviously he did from before it started by calling these people together, by inciting them to go and fight like hell and saying a different set of rules applies when there is election fraud, which he lied about, of course. while it was taking place, he did absolutely nothing. as the commander in chief of the armed forces become the aid of the republic that continued to incite his followers by saying that mike
do you think that jack smith is on the right path right now? >> well, you know, i don't know specifically which statutory offenses they are looking at. we sent them corrupt interference with a federal proceeding, obstruction of a federal proceeding. we sent them defrauding the united states, which is a closely related charge, trying to cheat us out of an honest election with integrity. the filing a false statements through the fraudulent electors, which they asserted were the actual...
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this all comes as there are signs of progress in special counsel's jack smith investigation. this is michael roman who served as trump's director of operations and was reportedly instrumental in the so-called fake electors scheme. he is now reportedly cooperating with january six investigation under what is known as a proffer agreement, a deal that could lead to more significant cooperation down the line. meanwhile, in miami, after indicting donald trump and his aide walt nauta, the grand jury there is reportedly still active with new subpoenas being sent out to people connected with the investigation. joining us now is paul butler, professor of law at georgetown university and a former federal prosecutor. he is an msnbc legal analyst. and christie greenberg, former deputy chief of the criminal division in the southern district of new york. thank you both for being here, paul, last night we learned from our colleague barbara mcquade that if this miami dog rancheria's still active, they are potentially looking at new crimes or new descendants or both. is either option more lik
this all comes as there are signs of progress in special counsel's jack smith investigation. this is michael roman who served as trump's director of operations and was reportedly instrumental in the so-called fake electors scheme. he is now reportedly cooperating with january six investigation under what is known as a proffer agreement, a deal that could lead to more significant cooperation down the line. meanwhile, in miami, after indicting donald trump and his aide walt nauta, the grand jury...
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that's what jack smith has asked for. i don't think it's unreasonable to think that that date might not stick. to see it now, that we should set a date past the election day, is premature. that is because the right to a speedy trial belongs, not just to the defendant, but also to the public. the likelihood of a trial resulting in conviction fades as time goes by. that is because witnesses memories fade, and evidence grows stale, and, meanwhile, as a person who's an alleged defender, he's still out, possibly committing new offenses. there is a public interest that the dredge has an obligation to recognize, to a speedy trial for the public. what is more often the case, lawrence, not that she said some date in the future to kingdom come, but she set a reasonable date, and if things happen that cause you to have to delay, it you make a finding under the speedy trial act, and make a reasonable delay at that time, incrementally, by a few months. you don't kick it all the way until after november of 2024. >> and bradley moss, th
that's what jack smith has asked for. i don't think it's unreasonable to think that that date might not stick. to see it now, that we should set a date past the election day, is premature. that is because the right to a speedy trial belongs, not just to the defendant, but also to the public. the likelihood of a trial resulting in conviction fades as time goes by. that is because witnesses memories fade, and evidence grows stale, and, meanwhile, as a person who's an alleged defender, he's still...
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and i think garland would say, it has to be with jack smith, not me. and otherwise i think smith is ready to go. >> kristy greenberg, you really there are cases where potential criminal defendants can't think of anything to say in a final appeal meeting which is one reason why they don't all have them. it's not clear to me what angles donald trump could go at in a kind of final appeal meeting about january 6th. >> so, i expect that his lawyers will request that meeting. why not? why not at least try to, even if you can't get them to drop all of those charges, and not bring all of those charges, at least see if they won't bring at? least some of them? i think you want to bring up issues central to his intent, the criminal intent he may have had, whether he was actually taking any steps in furtherance of a conspiracy or whether he was just having conversations. they will probably try and raise defenses relating to presidential immunity, or executive privilege again. i agree that those are unlikely to be successful, but they're going to try. they're going
and i think garland would say, it has to be with jack smith, not me. and otherwise i think smith is ready to go. >> kristy greenberg, you really there are cases where potential criminal defendants can't think of anything to say in a final appeal meeting which is one reason why they don't all have them. it's not clear to me what angles donald trump could go at in a kind of final appeal meeting about january 6th. >> so, i expect that his lawyers will request that meeting. why not? why...
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jack smith's team pointed out in their filing today, quote, as of this writing, mr. woodward has yet to complete his form sf-86, which is necessary for him to receive both an interim clearance and final adjudication, despite having been put in contact with a litigation security group on june 12th, some three and a half weeks ago. jack smith's filing also points out that a security clearance is not necessary to participate in the hearing. after jack smith's filing, calling the delay unnecessary, donald trump's lawyers filed a motion for a two-day delay that would move the hearing from friday to tuesday of next week. the trump filing indicates that both of defendant walt nauta's defense lawyers would be available on that day. in a moment we will show you what criminal defendant donald trump said in his own defense this weekend, but before we do that we will introduce to legal experts who will evaluate the trump defense as we listen to it together. joining us will be neal katyal former acting u.s. general and professor at georgetown law school, he is also the host of th
jack smith's team pointed out in their filing today, quote, as of this writing, mr. woodward has yet to complete his form sf-86, which is necessary for him to receive both an interim clearance and final adjudication, despite having been put in contact with a litigation security group on june 12th, some three and a half weeks ago. jack smith's filing also points out that a security clearance is not necessary to participate in the hearing. after jack smith's filing, calling the delay unnecessary,...
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he was unwilling to speak to alvin bragg's investigators, to jack smith's investigators. when i worked on special counsel in mueller's investigation he was unwilling to speak to us, in spite of his bravado that he was anxious to do so. so to me this is just another trump statement for the public that have little force in a court of law where laws actually matter. >> and kristy greenberg, of course he didn't say i'm going to have a lot of fun on the witness stand in this case, denying all of these accusations, because obviously the cowardly defendant will never take the witness stand. >> now, he will not. he knows that all he can do is try to fight his case in the court of public opinion and that he can ever get on the stand and testify under oath in a court of law. this perjury there and he would have multiple perjury charges if he were to even try to testify. >> i have just been handed breaking news notes from nbc news garrett haake saying the trump legal and political teams are preparing for the possibility that the federal grand jury will vote on charges against former
he was unwilling to speak to alvin bragg's investigators, to jack smith's investigators. when i worked on special counsel in mueller's investigation he was unwilling to speak to us, in spite of his bravado that he was anxious to do so. so to me this is just another trump statement for the public that have little force in a court of law where laws actually matter. >> and kristy greenberg, of course he didn't say i'm going to have a lot of fun on the witness stand in this case, denying all...
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. -- >> it's friday night at the lookout for a possible indictment in connection with jack smith's special investigation after donald trump posted this about a meeting between his lawyers ande meeting, so we don't know whether there was a meeting or not. you'd think we'd hear about any potential indictments from the justice department first, but that might not actually be the case. it was donald trump himself who first announced that he had been indicted in the mar-a-lago documents case last month. so there's a precedent for him being the person to break the news. all week long we've been watching for a federal grand jury investigating donald trump 's attempts to overturn the 2020 election leading up to and on january 6th. instead, we had a big surprise. donald trump was indicted again in the documents case. jack smith filed what is called a superseding indictment in the mar-a-lago case that adds a new codefendant, ups the number of charges donald trump faces 2:40, and sheds new light on the former president's alleged efforts to shield evidence from prosecutors. the new defendant in in the
. -- >> it's friday night at the lookout for a possible indictment in connection with jack smith's special investigation after donald trump posted this about a meeting between his lawyers ande meeting, so we don't know whether there was a meeting or not. you'd think we'd hear about any potential indictments from the justice department first, but that might not actually be the case. it was donald trump himself who first announced that he had been indicted in the mar-a-lago documents case...
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smith could bring against donald trump? is it practically possible to sentence a former president of the united states to prison time, given that all former presidents by law get lifetime secret service protection, which means a large group of secret service agents would have to go to prison with the president? back with us is eric holder, former attorney general of the united states. i have been wondering about this since the emergence of the possibility of criminal defendant trump, and i just haven't seen a way that a judge is going to order a former u.s. president, with the secret service protection delegation, to prison. is it possible? >> yeah, i think it's possible. the bureau of prisons contains a bunch of hardworking creative people who meet special dietary needs that people have, religious needs people have, special medical conditions that people have to deal with. if they were called upon to imprison a former president, i think they could come up with a way in which to do it. and let me be clear. this conversation
smith could bring against donald trump? is it practically possible to sentence a former president of the united states to prison time, given that all former presidents by law get lifetime secret service protection, which means a large group of secret service agents would have to go to prison with the president? back with us is eric holder, former attorney general of the united states. i have been wondering about this since the emergence of the possibility of criminal defendant trump, and i just...