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i asked him what aleppo needs most. >> everything. to simple pain killers. there's none. they have tylenol here, which has to be brought in. >> reporter: rebels hope their sacrifices will be worth it, once aleppo falls, they say, damascus will follow. until then, syria's largest city is suffering. >> that was nbc's richard engel reporting. >>> this morning it's being reported that secretary of defense leon panetta has signed the order to send patriot missiles to turkey. the order is part of a nato effort to help shield turkey from chemical weapons or missile attacks coming from syria. >>> as always, let us know why you're awake. shoot us an e-mail at waytooearly@msnbc.com. >>> still ahead on "way too early" -- ♪ i made it out of clay ♪ when it's dry and ready ♪ then dreidel i shall >> that would be so much better if we didn't know that was jeremy lin and the houston rockets. the toughest competition, the classic hanukkah dreidel song. >>> also, highlights from the football game last night. that was miss what are the eagles doing? >>> and not happy with the way the p
i asked him what aleppo needs most. >> everything. to simple pain killers. there's none. they have tylenol here, which has to be brought in. >> reporter: rebels hope their sacrifices will be worth it, once aleppo falls, they say, damascus will follow. until then, syria's largest city is suffering. >> that was nbc's richard engel reporting. >>> this morning it's being reported that secretary of defense leon panetta has signed the order to send patriot missiles to...
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in aleppo they're reporting to have taken over a military base belonging to the regime and in damascus, they've taken over a military installation on the outside of that country's airport. that also links to the issue of outside support for the syrian regime, including russia which says it will stand by president bashar al assad despite comments yesterday from a senior russian official acknowledging that in fact president ais losing control of that country to the opposition. as you mentioned today, the united states sent a symbolic show of force to turkey and nato member along with the dutch government. they have now deployed patriotic missiles, a defense system that will include 400 american operators to work that system for the turkish government. lynn? >> ayman, thanks so much. >>> back here at home after taking herself out of the running as secretary of state, susan rice is keeping her eye on ball, meeting with the president at the white house today. on twitter last night, rice rallied followers under the hash tag let's go. saying we have a lot work to do for the american people an
in aleppo they're reporting to have taken over a military base belonging to the regime and in damascus, they've taken over a military installation on the outside of that country's airport. that also links to the issue of outside support for the syrian regime, including russia which says it will stand by president bashar al assad despite comments yesterday from a senior russian official acknowledging that in fact president ais losing control of that country to the opposition. as you mentioned...
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amazingly made his way inside syria and filed this report just outside of the nation's largest city, aleppo. >> reporter: as this conflict drags on the people are suffering, but also showing a tremendous amount of resilience. this house was bombed by mistake. the people who lived here lived next to a rebel commander. now they're homeless. aside from the damage, and there is extensive damage in this part of syria just on the outskirts of the city of aleppo, there are also tremendous economic difficulties. the syrian currency is now worth about half of what it was worth before this war started. a loaf of bread costs 20 times more than it did just a few months ago. fuel is in very short supply, and if you can find it, it is also very expensive. with you despite all of that the rebels are making advantages. they are pushing on to president bashar al assad's military bases surrounding his military bases. there's no hope here for a diplomatic solution. the rebels don't want one. they say the only solution they will accept is a military victory. >>> that amazes me the places that richard engel get
amazingly made his way inside syria and filed this report just outside of the nation's largest city, aleppo. >> reporter: as this conflict drags on the people are suffering, but also showing a tremendous amount of resilience. this house was bombed by mistake. the people who lived here lived next to a rebel commander. now they're homeless. aside from the damage, and there is extensive damage in this part of syria just on the outskirts of the city of aleppo, there are also tremendous...
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they say they hope to soon control the city of aleppo, the country's commercial capital. after that, damascus. richard engel, nfc news. >>> this morning latin music fans around the world are lourng the death of jenny rivera. the 43-year-old grammy nominee and six others died early sunday when their small plane crashed in rough terrain in northern mexico. she performed a concert inman tore ray hours before the plane took off. the leer jet reportedly lost contact with air traffic controllers before takeoff. her brother said the family is devastated. >>> josh brent is out of jail on bond of half a million after the death of teammate jerry brown. brent was freed yesterday after being charged with intoxication manslaughter in a vehicle accident early saturday. brent had a previous drunk driving arrest and faces up to 20 years in prison on this new charge. >>> here is your first look at this morning's dish of scrambled politics. former house speaker newt gingrich believes hillary clinton would be nearly impossible to beat if she runs for president and democratic strategist jame
they say they hope to soon control the city of aleppo, the country's commercial capital. after that, damascus. richard engel, nfc news. >>> this morning latin music fans around the world are lourng the death of jenny rivera. the 43-year-old grammy nominee and six others died early sunday when their small plane crashed in rough terrain in northern mexico. she performed a concert inman tore ray hours before the plane took off. the leer jet reportedly lost contact with air traffic...
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you were in aleppo and saw the damage. heartbreaking reporting, richard, and now today the united states has taken this sort of confusing step in that they have designated the front as an al qaeda supported group. al qaeda in iraq as well as some of the assad regime militias. is that going to have any impact, and what are the rebel fighters telling you about this? >> the rebel fighters say that this is a little bit too late coming from the united states, that the united states hasn't been part of this uprising since the beginning, and that the united states is now almost two years in coming into, say, some of the people who are actually fighting along side the syrians are terrorists while the united states and nato are really just sitting on the side looilines. it would be like declaring one member of a staff a terrorist, but not everyone else. tease people work together. all of the different rebel groups will fight along side each other. they coordinate. sometimes they fight among themselves, but to see the united states,
you were in aleppo and saw the damage. heartbreaking reporting, richard, and now today the united states has taken this sort of confusing step in that they have designated the front as an al qaeda supported group. al qaeda in iraq as well as some of the assad regime militias. is that going to have any impact, and what are the rebel fighters telling you about this? >> the rebel fighters say that this is a little bit too late coming from the united states, that the united states hasn't been...
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richard engel, on the outskirts of aleppo. >> you both just saw richard's report. aaron, let me start with you. how real, at this point, is the fear that bashar al assad's regime could use those chemical weapons against the rebels? >> i think the fear is real. the question is, what's the point? desperate men trapped in difficult circumstances might actually deploy these things. toward what ends is almost impossible to define. if they're used too close to syrian forces, to the jordanian borders, given the prevails winds, you could affect thousands of people. the options for blocking this are frankly pretty bad. if the united states, through use of air strikes, tries to take these out, assuming we know where they are, you have a dispersal problem. if you wait until they're used, we're talking about probably the insertion of ground forces in an effort to secure them. this situation in syria, though, with or without chemical weapons, is going to get a lot worse before it gets worse. >> worse in what way? >> well, what you're seeing -- even if assad is overturned tomorr
richard engel, on the outskirts of aleppo. >> you both just saw richard's report. aaron, let me start with you. how real, at this point, is the fear that bashar al assad's regime could use those chemical weapons against the rebels? >> i think the fear is real. the question is, what's the point? desperate men trapped in difficult circumstances might actually deploy these things. toward what ends is almost impossible to define. if they're used too close to syrian forces, to the...
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not that -- i had done a few days early, a trip into aleppo that i think was much more dangerous than this. except somebody found out that we were waiting on that road. waiting, and they informed on us. and they set up a trap and they grabbed us. >> does that mean that a war that is in the stages that this war is in, and territory that this -- that you were trying to cover is uncoverable? if -- you have to cover it in a way that keeps you alive? >> i think it is going to get worse. i think it is going to get worse. because when the regime falls, there is going to be -- there will be -- a lot of killing between the two. there is some sort of civil and sectarian conflict that will break out. and i expect fighting in lebanon, just across the border is also going to break out.
not that -- i had done a few days early, a trip into aleppo that i think was much more dangerous than this. except somebody found out that we were waiting on that road. waiting, and they informed on us. and they set up a trap and they grabbed us. >> does that mean that a war that is in the stages that this war is in, and territory that this -- that you were trying to cover is uncoverable? if -- you have to cover it in a way that keeps you alive? >> i think it is going to get worse....
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when they filed this report last week from aleppo in syria, they reported that conditions were about as bad as you can imagine. bread lines, no medicine, a bombed out hospital, and a lot of very, very desperate civilians in syria's largest city. it was after filing that devastating report that richard engel and his team were captured. >> we were driving in syria, about five days ago in what we thought was a rebel-controlled area. we were with some of the rebels. and as we were moving down the road, a group of gunmen just literally jumped out of the trees and bushes on the side of the road. there were probably 15 gunmen. they were wearing ski masks. they were heavily armed. they dragged us out of the car. they had a container truck positioned, waiting by the side of the road. they put us into that container truck. we were with some gunmen, some rebels who were escorting us. they executed one of them on the spot. then they took us to a series of safe houses and interrogation places, and they kept us blindfolded, bound. we weren't physically beaten or tortured. it was a lot of psycholog
when they filed this report last week from aleppo in syria, they reported that conditions were about as bad as you can imagine. bread lines, no medicine, a bombed out hospital, and a lot of very, very desperate civilians in syria's largest city. it was after filing that devastating report that richard engel and his team were captured. >> we were driving in syria, about five days ago in what we thought was a rebel-controlled area. we were with some of the rebels. and as we were moving down...
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not that -- i had done a few days early, a trip into aleppo that i think was much more dangerous than this. except somebody found out that we were waiting on that road. waiting, and they informed on us. and they set up a trap and they grabbed us. >> does that mean that a war that is in the stages that this war is in, and territory that this -- that you were trying to cover is uncoverable? if -- you have to cover it
not that -- i had done a few days early, a trip into aleppo that i think was much more dangerous than this. except somebody found out that we were waiting on that road. waiting, and they informed on us. and they set up a trap and they grabbed us. >> does that mean that a war that is in the stages that this war is in, and territory that this -- that you were trying to cover is uncoverable? if -- you have to cover it
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most of the fighting is focused on the two big cities, aleppo and damascus. but as of now, they haven't been able to take either one of them. david? >> richard engel, thank you very much. for more on this developing story, i want to go to "the atlantic's" jeffrey goldberg, also a columnist for bloomberg view, and helene cooper. welcome to both of you. jeffrey, you covered this region extensively and have for years. you heard what the president has said and what richard has said. why this red line? something the united states never did in iraq, for instance, when hussein used chemical weapons, but we're doing it here. big shift maybe? >> well, only if you believe that it's really a red line. syrian opposition is probably correct to doubt whether the administration would do something if they use chemical weapons on their people. after all, they have been killing thousands of people every month, the assad government, using regular old conventional weapons. so it's not entirely clear to me that this would trigger an automatic response. there is no real obama doct
most of the fighting is focused on the two big cities, aleppo and damascus. but as of now, they haven't been able to take either one of them. david? >> richard engel, thank you very much. for more on this developing story, i want to go to "the atlantic's" jeffrey goldberg, also a columnist for bloomberg view, and helene cooper. welcome to both of you. jeffrey, you covered this region extensively and have for years. you heard what the president has said and what richard has said....
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i've done -- i've done a few days earlier, a trip into aleppo that i thought was much more dangerous than this, except somebody found out that we were waiting on that road, waiting, and they informed on us, and set up a trap and they grabbed us. >> does that mean that a war in this stage is in, in territory are you trying to cover is uncoverable? if you have to cover it in a way that keeps you ali? >> i think it's going to get worse. i think it's going to get worse. when the regime falls, there is going to be -- there will be a lot of killing between the sunnies and she shias,
i've done -- i've done a few days earlier, a trip into aleppo that i thought was much more dangerous than this, except somebody found out that we were waiting on that road, waiting, and they informed on us, and set up a trap and they grabbed us. >> does that mean that a war in this stage is in, in territory are you trying to cover is uncoverable? if you have to cover it in a way that keeps you ali? >> i think it's going to get worse. i think it's going to get worse. when the regime...
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more lines in aleppo and little power. though assad still has the upper hand. rebels worry that the increasingly desperate dictator will resort to chemical weapons. that would be catastrophic for syrians and intolerable to syria's neighbors. chemical gas could drift across borders. neighboring turkey asked for and will get patriot missiles from naito, able to shoot down incoming rockets or aircraft. the assad regime says using chemical weapons would be suicide. the fear is that assad may soon have nothing to lose. >> richard engle in turkey on the border. i want to bring in mark katz, professor of government and politics at george mason university. he is also the author of "leaving without losing: the war on terror after iraq and afghanistan." dr. katz, good to have you with us on this saturday afternoon. the former u.s. ambassador to syria, theodore kotoof writing in the daily beast, "the best hope to avoid syria becoming a failed or radical islamist state is for the russia and u.s. to cooperate." you write that russia may be shifting its pro-assad position. a
more lines in aleppo and little power. though assad still has the upper hand. rebels worry that the increasingly desperate dictator will resort to chemical weapons. that would be catastrophic for syrians and intolerable to syria's neighbors. chemical gas could drift across borders. neighboring turkey asked for and will get patriot missiles from naito, able to shoot down incoming rockets or aircraft. the assad regime says using chemical weapons would be suicide. the fear is that assad may soon...