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wade. that shows that the da's office is serving the personal interests of the da and mr. wade in carrying out further concealment and cover up of their relationship and not the cause of justice. they are sworn to serve. that is a conflict of interest it's a continuation of the wrongful pattern of concealment and cover up that they've engaged in since the beginning. but now they've enlisted the entire office in the infra prize in the written response to the motion to disqualify, wray said this and i quote, should be absolutely clear there is no evidence that da willis derived any financial benefit from mr. wade. that's on page 15 flat-out false ten lawyers in this case, but their name on that starting with the da so throw another log on the bonfire of conflicts of interests the problem here is the da cannot distinguish between her personal interests and ambitions on the one hand, and her public duties as a prosecutor on the other. and apparently neither neither can anyone else in their offi
wade. that shows that the da's office is serving the personal interests of the da and mr. wade in carrying out further concealment and cover up of their relationship and not the cause of justice. they are sworn to serve. that is a conflict of interest it's a continuation of the wrongful pattern of concealment and cover up that they've engaged in since the beginning. but now they've enlisted the entire office in the infra prize in the written response to the motion to disqualify, wray said this...
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wade. you also heard from the special prosecutor, mr. wade, a former judge you heard from the 80th governor of the state of georgia, roy barnes. you heard from the first female elected district attorney of fulton county, and you heard from her father, who was a 40 plus year practicing attorney and good-standing when he left the practice of law. and what i would submit to the court is that ms yeartie's testimony was nothing more than inconsistent at best based on what i referenced to the court earlier as it relates to other representations that were made by for counsel prior to or those in evidence, would his responses during a motion to quash, which weren't subject to cross-examination by defense attorneys weren't even part of the evidentiary record of the hearing. again, i'm just kind of puzzled by that. you didn't ask the question of maturity. what did you tell your attorney before coming here and then we could have dealt with privilege issues and whatever else i mean, i would agree with
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so nathan wade is tendered his resignation. what do you think comes next? >> well, next they'll continue with the process of trying to get a trial date set and moving towards that trial date. they've been engulfed and then controversy for weeks now, and that's kind of put everything else on the back burner, but finding willis and her team were looking for initially an august child i don't think there's any way that's going to happen, but they're now going to shift their attention to trying to get judge mcafee back in the mode of scheduling them a trial date so that they can move scores that date certain. and of course, to the extent that nathan wade was going to be involved in those preparations for trial, they'll have to replace him in order to move forward in that being once they get a trial date >> and she has certainly been admonished in this illegal when for her to be clear, she will remain on this case. >> but some blistering comments from the judge. do you think that's going to change jen how she proceeds here? it may be in style or tone well, i do h
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wade. here he calls wade's testimony his explanation for some incorrect formation that he submitted, quote, unpersuasive. he also describes his conduct as showing a willingness to wrongfully conceal his relationship with the district attorney. the judge said, as the case moves forward reasonable members of the public could easily be left to wonder whether the financial exchanges between wade and the district attorney have continued resulting in some form of benefit to the district district attorney or whether the romantic relationship has resumed. i think you read between the lines, you lied once you could potentially lie again or could reasonably think that the district attorney it's not exercising her independent professional judgment, totally free of any compromising influences. he says, and here's the key quote. as long as wade remains on this case, the unnecessary perception and will persist basically saying because of what has happened during this process, what they've learned, the fa
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wade. >> now the judge will ultimately decide if the defense proved those explosive allegations were going to take you live inside the courtroom once those presentations again, which we are expecting momentarily, but first let's take you to zachary cohen who was outside the courthouse in atlanta, and also here with us seeing an anchor and chief legal analyst, laura coates. zach, let's start with you. how are you expecting all of this to play out today >> you guys any minute, we expect offensive thanks for donald trump and his fellow codefendants to enter into this courtroom in layout for the judge in this case, judge scott mcafee, why the evidence that they've put forward so far, warren's disqualifying fani willis, the district attorney here in yoni from the georgia election subversion case. and look, they're going to have to meet the burden. and one of the things we will look, we're we're looking for for scott mcafee to clarify, today is what that burden is exactly now amounts, whether the
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wade back to the stand. so to claim that you can't impeach him because you didn't ask him when they objected to as ask him is a obviously is a false position to take as disingenuous as it can be now, if the court wants to open it up we'll be more than happy to call mr. wade back to the stand. but as the record stands, there could be no confrontation of mr. wade when both his counsel and the state are arguing that it shouldn't be done second let's let's use little common sense here forensic misconduct received about two minutes worth of discussion the rest of it is all long conflict forensic misconduct dealing with the way the statement is, if you don't accuse someone or you don't say that someone's guilty. >> assuming you can impugn someone's character the degree that constitutes forensic misconduct. why is that? >> i'm sorry. >> assuming you can impugn someone's character to the degree that it constitutes forensic misconduct i think that i guess the state's primary position was that they weren't talking abo
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so nathan wade is going to get kicked off the case. he has to go i actually think fani willis ought to think about whether she takes herself off the case, a conflict of interests is something that you need to monitor as a prosecutor to protect the case itself. and if it reaches a point where an individual's involvement in the case is going to shed public doubt. on the case itself, comes down that a prosecutor and i include fani willis needs to think about whether the right thing for the case is for her to step aside given these rulings, very strong words indeed, krystian, we heard a very strong statement released very quickly from the trump legal t. >> that's right. just to reiterate how the campaign has become the legal side of this. we got this from the attorney, but then also reaching out to the campaign. this is the statement that they pointed out too, so we haven't heard from donald trump on the campaign directly of stephen steve sadow, lead defense counsel for president trump in the fulton county, ga. exactly. >> that's his lawye
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nathan wade, esquire, as just resigned in disgrace. nathan with the special in more ways than one prosecutor engaged by fani pronounced fani willis to prosecute, to persecute trump for crooked joe biden and his department of injustice for purposes of election interference and living the life of the rich and famous so what do you make of this? >> well, this has just donald trump gloating, which is something i think we've come to expect in a way. his team did have a real victory, even though fani willis is staying on the case. this is going to delay the case for him and i think he's should be very happy about that. but this gives him an opportunity to continue to undermine the justice department. the way cases are conducted. and even though this is a state case, it's going to be important in the election because it's the state of georgia, which is a very important kaye state. and it's up for grabs and if he can continue to say that the district attorney, who's up for reelection in the state of georgia was playing hanky panky here with my
nathan wade, esquire, as just resigned in disgrace. nathan with the special in more ways than one prosecutor engaged by fani pronounced fani willis to prosecute, to persecute trump for crooked joe biden and his department of injustice for purposes of election interference and living the life of the rich and famous so what do you make of this? >> well, this has just donald trump gloating, which is something i think we've come to expect in a way. his team did have a real victory, even...
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nathan wade is out. nathan wade was the special prosecutor when i did >> this is not >> how they're interpreting it. this is not for them when we're doing to trump goes out there because i1, then we can ask the question, this is their internal conversation about how they feel right now that it goes to what i said, they're gonna put out a statement saying we are going to fight this. we think she should've been taken off the case. but any movement for them was a wind, particularly as we talk about, you just heard this lawyer saying that they don't believe this case. it's going to go to trial before november entire goal of all of these different motions and pushes has been to push these trials until after the november election with the hope that donald trump gets elected and get, get rid of all of them. now, obviously there's another option that he doesn't get elected and then he just has a bunch of trials. >> but that's that's the >> georgia case, not right now. you can't pardon >> change out. the justice
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we've reached out to wade. we have not heard back he can only imagine that that decision is forthcoming. big questions, those still remain will willis be able to get this trial back on track for a desire trial before the election. that is the most danny question right now. for us. >> and potentially who she may hire to replace wade, nick valencia. thanks so much for the update we want to turn now to cnn's paula reid, apollo, the case now, can theoretically move forward and fulton county once we find out whether nathan wade will resign, we believe that's what's going to happen. what is the next step on they need to find someone else to oversee this case. and the fact that they had to take time to vet these allegations. this has pushed the trial back and right now boards it's really unclear if fani willis we'll be able to bring this case before the election, but let's take a step back and look at the four criminal prosecutions that trump is facing. i mean, just in the past 24 hours, we've had changes to this cale
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they're nathan wade was not the first. he was not the first pick whether or not she wants to go with another special prosecutor based on how much work he has already done in the case would be up to her and we really don't know that just because he was a special prosecutor and he has a lot of knowledge about the case that doesn't mean she has to determine to pick someone else. and it is going to be difficult for her to find when someone all right. >> so if she doesn't replace wade, is it an issue of elevating somebody who's already on the team or perhaps they may have to multitask a little differently because as you say, it was very difficult to recruit from outside to bring someone in. does it just in shifting those who are already in an on the team >> so sure. here's what i think because the case is now rolling down the track. she has always indicated that she was able and willing and ready to try it very quickly. i think it would be difficult to bring someone in who has not been involved in the case from the beginning. a
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didn't have, nathan wade's role was really here as team manager. i think the behind the seals got behind the scenes guy who was engaged good deal, making, right. plea deals of with witnesses. those are important skills to have, but they aren't. the kinds of things that there aren't other attorneys who can fill that void. in the coming weeks and months. >> all right. let's move up the acetyl-coa harder to new york because we got another headline that this hush money case is going to be pushed off. >> is that >> another legal victory for the trump world? >> well, i don't i'm not sure. i think what we don't know quite at this moment is what the new information that the be manhattan seems to have gotten might do in terms of being inculpatory for donald trump. i think it's also not really the kind of the delay that we're going to see what the child really wants. donald trump really does not want trials to begin until after the election, right? because that's really the key threshold in terms of the timetable going forward. and so this case is not going
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attorney, fani willis may stay on the election interference case only if wade ball good quits. are experts are breaking down the decision and what it means for the former president. all of this coming as trump just secured a delayed in his first criminal trial, a new victory in his efforts to drag out his multiple legal cases until after the election welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world, i will blitzer a year in the situation room the skis cnn breaking news. >> that's good right to the breaking news. donald trump's former vice president publicly refuses to endorse him as their split over the events of january 6 and other issues reaches a new level. cnn's kristen holmes is working this dramatic development for us. kristin, tell us what pence is exactly. say >> oh, look, this is both surprising and unsurprising at the same time, the two men had a very fractured relationship after what happened on january 6 and tense ran against donald trump for office. however, he is still the former vice president to donald trump. but in factoring, debate was ask
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nathan wade has not covered himself in glory. he's off the case now, and i'm not sure the judge didn't do it favor to the fulton county da's office by forcing his removal. >> interesting s. e. cupp by the judge had scathing words for fani willis in this ruling. does this ultimately play into trump's hands? >> 100%. i mean, we know that trump doesn't have a problem lying about these cases. >> anyway. and >> those lies are dangerous. and his fans believe them. but when there's a hint of impropriety, he doesn't have to lie. he can discredit the entire case, the entire office, and it doesn't have to be true, but he gets let's to do that with a bit more believability and not just this case, right? he wants to save the entire system is rigged against him. that affects every other case. he's up against. he will use this and fani willis's quote, unquote, unprofessionalism, her lapse in judgment judges words, he will use this to discredit all the cases around him. and i think her her actions, her decisions will have pretty big ramificatio
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wade? have no clue about the power of women if you named merrick, can people send me a congress has to force the right to choose. i promise you i will restore roe v. wade as the law of land again in a moment. i'll talk to my land shopper, a former french cabinet minister, who famously appeared fully closed in playboy to challenge gender stereotypes and extol women's right to sexual freedom but first from paris. here's correspondent melissa bell with more on how us politics galvanize the reproductive rights movement in france >> he, me, some sandals adoption said some ketuvim >> it was an overwhelming majority of french lawmakers gathered in versailles who voted in favor of changing france's constitution in central paris. women are celebrated. the fact that their freedom to terminate a pregnancy see would now be beyond the women of political change of funding. have villa liberty the sun. >> this will enshrine the freedom of women to choose abortion and to be a solemn guarantee that nothing w
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it's also been friends with nathan wade for 16 years and gerald, i appreciate your time so you know, both of them them. very well. i know you had a chance to speak with nathan wade after his resignation today on the back of judge mcafee is decision. what did he tell you >> he. told me he's going to continue to practice law and continued to do justice in the state of georgia. and he's excited about the next chapter of his life. >> was he prepared for the judge to rule the way he did. and does he feel this. was fair >> well, we had a personal conversation. it wasn't about that particular aspect of this whole endeavor. he's resolute and continued to practice law and continued to do justice for the citizens of georgia >> so the judge in his ruling, gerald talking about your friend fani willis he said she showed a quote, tremendous lapse in judgment. that's the quote from the judge that she acted unprofessionally. now, look, you've known for a long time, you don't for more than 25 years, do >> you >> know whether she has any regrets about the decisions she made and how she handled all of
it's also been friends with nathan wade for 16 years and gerald, i appreciate your time so you know, both of them them. very well. i know you had a chance to speak with nathan wade after his resignation today on the back of judge mcafee is decision. what did he tell you >> he. told me he's going to continue to practice law and continued to do justice in the state of georgia. and he's excited about the next chapter of his life. >> was he prepared for the judge to rule the way he did....
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wade is no longer in the case. so you have a lead. prosecutors never tried to felony case before out of the picture. and this gibbs, ms willis, a chance to put in a prosecutor who experienced and what they're doing. and then finally, when this case finally, just go to trial, what un are talking about today will long be forgotten. it has been my experience that jurors have memory of a gnat the jurors have a memory of a gnat. i'll remember that 1 to charlie bailey, you know, the players here while you've worked closely with da willis and your wife is part of her communications team. what's your sense of how she's taking this decision today? we got a window. i think in a little into our psyche earlier when she talked testified she seemed pretty angry about all of this >> well, she has calls for the angry about a bunch of defendants led by adjudicated sexual assaulter and donald trump questioning her and calling her corrupt. and let's not lose sight that's what the defense attorneys did. would their motion here and the overarching thing,
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wade's. so one of the things that i think was most striking to me about that church speech was when i heard it the first thing i said, why she lying, why is ms willis lying about how much these people made? john floyd was not paid the same rate as the other two prosecutors. they all had caps on their monthly the bills they were not the same. >> so >> the speech says, oh, this is about race. you're only calling out the one person. there was only one person that was having sex with fani willis. there was only one person that was billing these exorbitant rates. there was only one person that had never tried to rico case that's why that came out. >> well, i hear you on that. the judge of course, did not have any of his experience and qualifications be a part of this particular hearing? he did not deem it to be irrelevant, did not find that you met your burden of proof and eggers, thing. >> i don't >> recall anyone having the direct questions about sex with with body willis and nathan wade in the
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wade and i could have read the writing on the wall. i don't like it took 2020 vision to see that and that they should have pulled them off the case at that time. and eliminated this circus that we've been watching now for a couple of months as opposed to talk about the case or other things going on with the prosecution of the former president. so i'm not surprised at all. i don't think there was anyone can make a claim that the district attorney was exonerated by the order that just wasn't the case in matter of fact, the judge went to some great lengths to say, i'm constrained by the law that are higher courts have set. but by the way, this is something that it may be considered by the state bar by the ethics commission, by the legislature, and other bodies like that. and he talked about the case having a sort of a stake of lying around it. and that's never good if you're a prosecutor or a warrior, but certainly if you're not, if you're the prosecutor, moving into prosecutor case like this, you do not walk the judge viewing your case,
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his co-defendants but she may only stay on if she removes specialty financially benefited from hiring wade and that that created a conflict of interest now, today's ruling is a major victory for willis and her office. but it came with some harsh criticism from judge scott mcafee, who rebuked willis for the relationship. and now says that it leaves a stain on the prosecution's team. cnn's nick valencia is live outside the courthouse. for us in fulton county, nyc. you've been watching this case unfold for months? what stands out to you about the decision today >> we'll look, fani willis, there were some real concerns that she would be disqualified before today. and as it stands, she's going to be allowed to stay so long as she gets rid of the man whom she was romantically involved in and those close to fani willis or allies. they are seeing this as a big win it's a huge win even if it's only a technical win on paper. and even if it does come with some blistering criticism from the judge a massive indictment on her behavior. he called some of her testimony on february 15th during those disqua
his co-defendants but she may only stay on if she removes specialty financially benefited from hiring wade and that that created a conflict of interest now, today's ruling is a major victory for willis and her office. but it came with some harsh criticism from judge scott mcafee, who rebuked willis for the relationship. and now says that it leaves a stain on the prosecution's team. cnn's nick valencia is live outside the courthouse. for us in fulton county, nyc. you've been watching this case...
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wade as an independent contractor, a special prosecutor. there is a procedure in georgia law to do that, and it requires the approval of the county government, whether the district attorney sits that didn't happen here and it's very clear she hired this man who would not i have been eligible to be hired directly by her da's office or under county policy, either because of the nepotism close you can hire your lover to be a contractor to pay him government taxpayer funds. >> i understand that that. okay. but she's saying they weren't dating at that time and i understand that. that's that's that's also now but that but that's what that's what she's saying. so if they weren't dating, you have an issue. >> now, is that hasn't been proven yeah >> no, it hadn't. but boy, there were some very compelling evidence today of people that reported that. and there's phone information that shows that as well, but that's not our job to determine whether she did that. they which would clearly disqualify her. i think that's why she's fighting the date so bad,
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i think that it started before the before nathan wade was hired. so that's another important issue. >> how high the bar here though, elie, how high is the bar for this evidence need to be? >> yeah. so the burden of proof here is on the defendant's it is on donald trump, mike roman is on the people who are challenging fani willis. they have to prove their allegations by what we call a preponderance of the evidence, meaning that it's more likely or not, and that's a really important question, john, because ordinarily in a criminal case, the burden is on the prosecution and it's a heavy burden beyond a reasonable doubt. but here the tables are sort of turns so that defendants are trying to disqualify fani willis. they have the burden of proof. >> all right. counselor, you can have a busy day. thank you very much for being with us. >> for sherling visits at the border. president biden, for and former president trump meeting with local officials as when they were there. and now the mayor of breath sounds bill texas, where president biden just was he joi
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she goes >> or nathan wade goes nathan wade went. >> and if you'd thought robert hur's one line throwing some shade at president biden was savage while judge mcafee is order hardly had any sunlight when it came to willis and wade, although there were moments that he recognized that the burden had not been met to show that they in fact, had a conflict of interests that made a fair trial impossible. >> there's >> one particular quote, georgia law does not permit the finding of an actual conflict for simply making bad choices. >> in repeatedly >> all the scrutiny of fani willis and nathan wade and their relationship who live where when who paid for what how an all it went down. it all threatens to overshadow throat knee of what this case is actually about. let me remind you for a second. we've already been through the hearing and trial about the personal now, how about what is alleged in the indictment the alleged efforts by the then president of the united states and his co-defendants to overturn the 2020 election of one president joe biden you think i'm on trial? these people are on trial
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and elie, why is fani willis is being in a relationship with nathan wade? the special prosecutor, a potential conflict of interest in this case >> so wolf, it's important to understand two things about conflicts of interests. one, it doesn't necessarily mean anyone has done anything wrong. sometimes conflicts of interests just happen in two. it does not have to relate to the actual charges in the case. prosecutors get ready q is because of conflicts all the time. i'll give you an example. let's say i was prosecuting a case against a ceo of a large corporation for insider trading. and it turned out my dad work there or my brother work there. nobody did anything wrong. not related to the insider trading charges, but absolutely a conflict of interests and the argument that the defendants have made here is not so much such that the relationship itself was the conflict, but that the relationship led to that financial conflict that laura just mentioned. and so that's how we got to this point. and it was further complicated by this dispute over when the relationsh
and elie, why is fani willis is being in a relationship with nathan wade? the special prosecutor, a potential conflict of interest in this case >> so wolf, it's important to understand two things about conflicts of interests. one, it doesn't necessarily mean anyone has done anything wrong. sometimes conflicts of interests just happen in two. it does not have to relate to the actual charges in the case. prosecutors get ready q is because of conflicts all the time. i'll give you an example....
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willis and nathan wade? does he believe the other witnesses? does he how much credit does he give this cell records? that's a really exceedingly difficult call. you could see the judge today starting to wrestle with some of those issues. so he's going to go back into his chambers. he's going to spend two weeks trying to work it out and then he'll give us that decision and neither way would surprise me >> interesting, gloria, gloria borger versions with us as well, even if willis isn't disqualified in this case, the district attorney's office certainly seems to have suffered a bit right now, at least with the jury pool. >> don't forget. as laura was saying, she's an elected official and they've spent weeks going down a rabbit hole about whether she behaved in properly and hired her boyfriend and that's never good for a public official. the question is by the if she's not disqualified by the time you get around to selecting a jury. will that become part of the case? well, it depends what questions they ask the jurors do they know about this? have
willis and nathan wade? does he believe the other witnesses? does he how much credit does he give this cell records? that's a really exceedingly difficult call. you could see the judge today starting to wrestle with some of those issues. so he's going to go back into his chambers. he's going to spend two weeks trying to work it out and then he'll give us that decision and neither way would surprise me >> interesting, gloria, gloria borger versions with us as well, even if willis isn't...
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wade. they did it with dobbs. this is part of their long-term strategy and of course, the next thing would have a ruling like what we saw in alabama take place clarence thomas said, we're coming after contraception and everything else. so no, for them to then say, oh, my goodness, we actually do support ivf treatment. let's put this bill that actually says nothing about the legal definition of an embryo. so what doesn't protect that? and when you are a woman going to fertility treatments, you now, especially after this ruling, you're going to have to have some really clear definitions about what constitutes an embryo and what you can do and what your dr. there can do with you. >> that's >> interesting point to think about what the bill does not say is do you think it may be trying to placate those who saw this as in their minds, not an inevitable extension of the dobbs ruling. i mean, people have what mifepristone they thought about, obviously abortion, ivf people, i think believe was going to be a sacred space. b
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wade was that he never he had never laid his head. was the direct quote at at that condo, which these records don't prove that he laid his head anywhere? >> willis seem to be smiling as he was making that argument. what did you think about it >> i thought there was a pretty awful place to be blunt. yeah. for a lawyer to be >> to be saying, hey, look, he only said he didn't lay his head there but yes, they might be evidenced that he was there for several hours in the middle of the night from like 12, 30 as he left before the morning? >> yeah. so that is not where you want to be and in some sense, even if something is technically true. and yeah, i'm sure it's technically true that he didn't lay his head there that is not where you want to be there could still be a lie because you've misled everybody by saying it's just suggesting right. were there overnight? >> right. and that's what this cell phone evidence is strongly indicative of. and they haven't really rebutted that. >> right. and the text messages as well, i mean, i didn't mentio
wade was that he never he had never laid his head. was the direct quote at at that condo, which these records don't prove that he laid his head anywhere? >> willis seem to be smiling as he was making that argument. what did you think about it >> i thought there was a pretty awful place to be blunt. yeah. for a lawyer to be >> to be saying, hey, look, he only said he didn't lay his head there but yes, they might be evidenced that he was there for several hours in the middle of...
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so nathan wade has resigned, which means that fani willis can stay on the case. what's a reaction to the judge's decision? especially hearing the sharper rebuke from him, saying things like finding willis had a tremendous lapse in judgment. there was a significant appearance of impropriety what what is your take >> yammer. good morning to you. i think it was right on the law and right on the facts. why three broad issues. number one, in terms of the conflict of interests itself, an actual conflict, the judge finding there was not it was not this sufficient connection between a monetary motivation to move the case forward. why? because the facts belied that. right. what happened? the reality is if there was this dependence upon money and connection to money, the prosecutor may have prolonged the case. instead, they asked for the case to move forward. quite expeditiously. there was motion to sever the defendants, meaning, amara, that'd be plenty of trials. they oppose that. certainly if there was a financial interest and you were making money, you wouldn't oppose i
so nathan wade has resigned, which means that fani willis can stay on the case. what's a reaction to the judge's decision? especially hearing the sharper rebuke from him, saying things like finding willis had a tremendous lapse in judgment. there was a significant appearance of impropriety what what is your take >> yammer. good morning to you. i think it was right on the law and right on the facts. why three broad issues. number one, in terms of the conflict of interests itself, an actual...
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now, nathan wade is expected to have to be removed from the case. so it's highly unlikely see that this will start before the election and also look, i think we talk about delay, delay, delay that the trump strategy. yes, they tried to do that, but they're getting a lot of help on not only for example, from the supreme court that took up the issue of immunity when they could have done that months ago, push that one of the federal cases back. but also here you have the conduct here, even though other there was finding of corruption the fact that they had to go through this, this to analyze this pattern of bad behavior, this really did help the trump team not only in terms of delaying it, but also an undermining the credibility of the overall justice system and the prosecutions against trump. yeah, that's how they feel they're like, look, if fani willis can stay on the case, but we feel like for our other goals here this is working for us and pick up on that last point, laura and as you do, i just want to read for our viewers a little bit more of what
now, nathan wade is expected to have to be removed from the case. so it's highly unlikely see that this will start before the election and also look, i think we talk about delay, delay, delay that the trump strategy. yes, they tried to do that, but they're getting a lot of help on not only for example, from the supreme court that took up the issue of immunity when they could have done that months ago, push that one of the federal cases back. but also here you have the conduct here, even though...
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wade. how far will he go? when will he stop? you know the answer to that address coming up the start of women's history month is the first of several events that she is going to be going throughout key battleground states this weekend highlighting her passion for women's issues that passion is well as her influence on her husband's reelection campaign are all detailed in a new book that is out this week. it is called american woman, the transformation of the modern first lady from hillary clinton to jill biden and the author and new york times reporter, katie rogers is here with me now. i'm so glad to have you here and you have covered joe biden so closely and to see her come out today, we have never seen her with that fear of criticism of donald trump. i wonder if that's something you think she's going to be doing throughout the 2024 campaign? >> yeah. >> i mean, she doesn't like him. she's a deep she has a deep dislike of trump, but like her husband she has waited until now to really sort of bring out the torpedoes, sort of sp
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wade should say, hey, i'm willing to voluntarily step away. we don't know if he'll do it, but on the lawn, the facts know fani willis should not be disqualified. >> yeah. really gotten into the weeds of her personal life during all and marcos, just this week, trump succeeded in delaying his other federal trial when the supreme court got him baldwin, that how do you how do you think he's gonna do is going to be successful with this documents case down in florida. what do you think >> well, that's his best play. in my opinion, this classified documents cases, the one that presents the most legal jeopardy to him. recall that most of the conduct that occurred in this case was after his term in office. so his legal or presidential immunity claim is extremely weak. i think the other defenses he's raised are very weak. so the defense attorneys here are doing a very good job so far of delaying this and i think judge cannon will delay the trial she'll probably said it prior to the election but i doubt very much that this case will go to trial before th
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announcing today the defense failed to prove fani willis financially benefited by hiring >> nathan wade as her top deputy on the georgia election subversion case against donald trump and others. but this finding is by no means an indication that the court condones this tremendous lapse in judgment or the unprofessional manner of the district attorney's testimony during the evidentiary hearing judge scott mcafee wrote, rather it is the undersigned's opinion that georgia law does not permit the finding of an actual conflict for simply making bad choices. mcafee also describing willis fiery testimony last month as unprofessional intrusive into people's personal lives. you'll confuse, you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. and >> her january remarks at an atlanta area church as legally improper oh she play. but no isn't it them playing the race card when they only question 1, >> the judge also saying reasonable questions exist about the timing of willis and wade's relationship
announcing today the defense failed to prove fani willis financially benefited by hiring >> nathan wade as her top deputy on the georgia election subversion case against donald trump and others. but this finding is by no means an indication that the court condones this tremendous lapse in judgment or the unprofessional manner of the district attorney's testimony during the evidentiary hearing judge scott mcafee wrote, rather it is the undersigned's opinion that georgia law does not permit...
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wade. some of the conduct of the da's office there, and that's what led to this appearance of impropriety finding. and that's what led to mr. wade's resignation from the case. i think you should have resigned a long time ago, paula, i think he should have resigned with this motion came out but the judge has forced the hand and didn't give the da a much of a choice. and now the case can go forward without any appearance of impropriety. >> david, what impact could this whole episode have on potential jurors whenever this goes to trial? >> well, it's march madness for trump world isn't it? i mean, he's fighting in every court around the country and in georgia with the prosecutorial misconduct, it's going to be really interesting to see how jurors react because they're, going to be seeing all of this happen and they're going to come in with strong views about whether the prosecutor is acted appropriately or not. >> it >> may be better for her just to step away from the thing so that the case is
wade. some of the conduct of the da's office there, and that's what led to this appearance of impropriety finding. and that's what led to mr. wade's resignation from the case. i think you should have resigned a long time ago, paula, i think he should have resigned with this motion came out but the judge has forced the hand and didn't give the da a much of a choice. and now the case can go forward without any appearance of impropriety. >> david, what impact could this whole episode have on...
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sat in georgia and she questioned as to why they were only focusing on the black prosecutor, nathan wade, although it's part of a larger team, listen to what the trump attorney had to say about this, what he perceived as an ethical disqualification da willis took it upon herself to go to a historic >> black church in atlanta, having not responded at all to the motion ms merchant's client, roman, and she made what we now call the church speech. it was a calculated determination by ms willis too prejudice the defendant and their counsel. how by making an issue out of the fact that the person that was challenged in the roman motion was black this was a big moment. i mean, translation, he's saying she played the race card. now the jury things that everyone is against this particular group. and here's the issue. >> did you think that was compelling at all? but the idea of the jury pool being tainted, did that play? >> i don't think so. i don't think that that's an argument that holds any weight. i do think that that's what they want to try to put in the public out to the public is that this i
sat in georgia and she questioned as to why they were only focusing on the black prosecutor, nathan wade, although it's part of a larger team, listen to what the trump attorney had to say about this, what he perceived as an ethical disqualification da willis took it upon herself to go to a historic >> black church in atlanta, having not responded at all to the motion ms merchant's client, roman, and she made what we now call the church speech. it was a calculated determination by ms...
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such a relationship, as long as wade remains on the case, this unnecessary perception will persist. >> i don't think it's a good day for the justice system. >> defense attorney scott globin faced off against willis during the case when he represented trump, ally can chesebro, one of the four co-defendants, to take a guilty plea. >> i hope and expect that the criminal defense lawyers in this case will appeal this decision. and i both the georgia court of appeals has a different view than scott mcafee. >> she's not equipped to do the job and that case should end immediately. >> the former president's legal team vowing to fight on. we will use all legal options available as we continue to fight to end this case, which should never have been brought in the first place. attorney steve sadow said those close to willis note the judge wasn't buying the idea that willis devised a financial scheme to enrich herself. and they're glad she could stay on the case. but now she might not be able to take the case to trial before the november election and nick valencia joins us now from atlanta. now
such a relationship, as long as wade remains on the case, this unnecessary perception will persist. >> i don't think it's a good day for the justice system. >> defense attorney scott globin faced off against willis during the case when he represented trump, ally can chesebro, one of the four co-defendants, to take a guilty plea. >> i hope and expect that the criminal defense lawyers in this case will appeal this decision. and i both the georgia court of appeals has a different...
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she had an out wade resigned and now the case can move forward. whether they appeal or not is up to them. but really this is a pretty much fact bound decision. there isn't really much of an opportunity for them to appeal and be successful on that appeal. of course they may try if that will further delay matters, but it's no guarantee that that it will so what we have here is a situation where if any willis was exorcising sound judgment, she would recede into the background and let somebody else be the voice of the case. in public find yourself a new untarnished special counsel to replace wade and then move forward. >> but then michael does it appear as though the judge's decision was appealed proof because what you say she was very lucky that he is allowing her to stay on the case the judge also said that defendants didn't prove that she financially benefited from the prosecutor being on the case. so there isn't anything there to appeal is they're pretty much that's right, fred, the judge found that they'll case-law of georgia requires an actual c
she had an out wade resigned and now the case can move forward. whether they appeal or not is up to them. but really this is a pretty much fact bound decision. there isn't really much of an opportunity for them to appeal and be successful on that appeal. of course they may try if that will further delay matters, but it's no guarantee that that it will so what we have here is a situation where if any willis was exorcising sound judgment, she would recede into the background and let somebody else...
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nathan wade, who is the lead prosecutor, is now gone. and that happened after a judge presiding over this case made fani willis choose between two options. one, recuse her whole office or show her former paramour to the door. she elected to do the latter, but willis herself got a dose of medicine from this doc from this judge, scott mcafee, the judge wrote, this finding is by no means an indication that the court condones this tremendous lapse of judgment or the unprofessional manner of the district attorney's testimony during the evidentiary hearing. joining me now, is bishop reginald jackson. he is a spiritual adviser to district attorney fani willis reverend. thank you very much for joining us. i wonder. have you gotten a chance to speak with ms willis about this decision and if you did or if you do, what do you plan to counsel her about what this means >> well, good evening. it's good to be with you my counsel to heroin. be the bottom line is she is still prosecuting this case all of this other stuff is simply side issues. prepare fo
nathan wade, who is the lead prosecutor, is now gone. and that happened after a judge presiding over this case made fani willis choose between two options. one, recuse her whole office or show her former paramour to the door. she elected to do the latter, but willis herself got a dose of medicine from this doc from this judge, scott mcafee, the judge wrote, this finding is by no means an indication that the court condones this tremendous lapse of judgment or the unprofessional manner of the...
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wade. have no clue about the power of women >> reproductive rights are hot topic this election year will look at how the issue is motivating those going so the polls live from atlanta >> this is cnn newsroom with kim brunhuber in the past hour or there has been a new air drop of aid into gaza. have a look here. you can see the parachutes and aid pallets in this video. now we don't know which country dropped this aid, but it's one of many airdrops that's happened over the past few days in washington. new information about president biden's plan for a floating aid pier in gaza. the pentagon now says it could take up to two months and one troops to build the pier in cyprus, european commission president ursula von der leyen toured the staging area for a new maritime aid corridor into gaza. cyprus is the closest eu member too. gaza, it says it bears a moral duty to help ease the humanitarian crisis. but aid group mid-sized songful don't yell says, instead of trying to create a work around, the
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wade, the two special prosecutor and prosecutor, let's just say, for example, there was some financial i mean, i don't know. it seems to me when someone earns money, it's their money they could do what they want, but be that as it may just say, for example, they did all of that to me, the integrity of the process is about the underlying indictment. was it presented to a grand jury properly when presented, was the wire the facts that were presented that the grand jury, can they be legally sustained? does it make out a case and a claim against the now 14 defendants plus the president, former president of the united states. and so in essence, what you're left with it this is this appropriate. i mean, it's been very entertaining in terms of reality tv, but doesn't really reflect the core issues that we're grappling with and whether an indictment should be dismissed predicated upon some conduct that they were engaged, some dalliance that was engaged in jen, i want to play something else from trump's lawyer today. let's you asked her, you know, what's personal interests. i think frankly, as
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wade she was told her dream would have to wait. what her family has gone through should never have happened. and folks, you know why it happened i'll tell you why one reason donald trump he came to office determined to overturn roe v. >> wade. >> in fact, >> he's bragged about it repeatedly, that he's the reason it got overturned. he got his wish and states are passing bans criminalizing doctors, forcing ripen incest victims. believes the state to get care >> now >> bagher republicans or donald trump wants to pass a national ban on the right to choose period well take it seriously, folks, because that's where there's heading for hear me loud and clear. this will not happen on my watch thank you. >> said, you know, overturned roe v. wade >> the supreme court majority wrote women are not without electoral power or political power clearly these braggy anyway those bragging about overturning roe v. wade have no clue about the power women in america they, found out. what, reproductive freedom is on the balance. 2020, 2.20, 23, and now f
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wade, which presumably returned the decision about abortion access to the states. but what this would do is actually impose a restriction on access to medication, abortion across all states. so right now we know there are 14 states that have banned abortion almost completely where people are not supposed to be able to access medication abortion. we know they potentially can through certain means other also 15 states that have restriction shins, but if the supreme court were to agree with the appeals court, this would re-implement restrictions on how people can access medication, abortion in all states, it would not necessarily remove it from the market, but it could make it harder to get through things like telemedicine, which is increasingly important, very important all right, guys. thank you very, very much. meg tirrell, carry cordero >> appreciate it. we're going to take a closer look at donald trump's new gag order just ahead of his hush money trial and whether he'll abide by a plus will share the first response from an attorney for sean diddy combs after the
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. >> the defense claimed willis and the cases special prosecutor, nathan wade, started dating before she hired him for the job. >> she put her boyfriend in the spot, aid him, and then reap the benefits from it, and that she benefited through meals and lavish trips he paid for know, she's received a personal financial benefit of over 90 to in this case that she can't account for >> the lead attorney defending willis said she paid wade back in full, arguing this has been an effort to harass and embarrass willis an actual conflict has not been shown and more importantly, are in conjunction with that, there has been absolutely no evidence for the district attorney has benefitted financially at all willis sitting at the prosecutor's table, just feet from her attorney as the judge questions several of his arguments for why there's no grounds to disqualify the da. >> there is a relationship and that money has changed hands there's maybe still an open question of where the ledger stands. but i think it was conceded that that balance could run in one way or the district attorney's favor is th
. >> the defense claimed willis and the cases special prosecutor, nathan wade, started dating before she hired him for the job. >> she put her boyfriend in the spot, aid him, and then reap the benefits from it, and that she benefited through meals and lavish trips he paid for know, she's received a personal financial benefit of over 90 to in this case that she can't account for >> the lead attorney defending willis said she paid wade back in full, arguing this has been an...
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he came to office determined to overturn roe v wade. in fact, he's bragged about it repeatedly that he's the reason i got overturn. he got his wish. and states are passing bans criminalizing doctors, forcing rape and incest victims to leave their state to get care. and now maga republicans and donald trump want to pass a national ban on the right to choose, period. well take it seriously, folks, because that's what they're heading for. hear me loud and clear. this will not happen on my watch. the decision. the decision now. >> are year on year. thank you. the decision to overturn roe v wade. >> the supreme court majority wrote. women are not without electoral power or political power. clearly these bragging. anyway those bragging about overturning roe v wade have no clue about the power of women in america. no clue. they found out when reproductive freedom was on the ballot in 2022 and 2023, and they'll find out again in 2024. i mean this in the bottom of my heart when i say i thank vice president harris for leading on this issue in so
he came to office determined to overturn roe v wade. in fact, he's bragged about it repeatedly that he's the reason i got overturn. he got his wish. and states are passing bans criminalizing doctors, forcing rape and incest victims to leave their state to get care. and now maga republicans and donald trump want to pass a national ban on the right to choose, period. well take it seriously, folks, because that's what they're heading for. hear me loud and clear. this will not happen on my watch....