you in, you know, in peru, in south africa, in uganda, in nepal. but anyway, i've interviewed a bunch of traditional healers and there are many more traditional healers in the rural areas of this world than there are people with m.d.s or friends. and they are an important part of the health care mindset, let's say not system, but my and many people see traditional healers before they see a doctor or a nurse, or they see them at the same time or incompetent was seeing a doctor's orders and by and large, western medicine. when it begins to make an inroad in the country, just turns its back on the traditional healers and says, oh my god, they're out of the dark ages. pay no attention to them. and i'm arguing no, these are very often highly intelligent, respected people in their communities. they know their own people. they know what they normally suffer from and if you embrace them and you know, share knowledge with them, you can make them sentinels for outbreaks of disease in the world. you can also and i you know, i write about it and the sort of pa