>> well, we'll see, won't we, on september 26th. >> the debate will be crucial. both sides know it. and how is donald trump preparing? we met up with him a little more than an hour away from secretary clinton, and he was quick to react to what mrs. clinton had just told us about him. donald trump and mike pence, right there in the must-win state of ohio, as well. we sit here in the great battleground state of ohio, 63 days to go. how badly do you need to win ohio to win that white house? >> well, we're up in ohio, and do you see the kind of crowds we're having in ohio? i think we're going to win it, and certainly it would be very important to win ohio. >> people have said republicans do not win the white house without ohio. >> well, i've heard that. and certainly we intend to win ohio. we should win ohio. >> 20 days until the first big debate. are you ready? >> you never know. but i think so. >> are you prepping? >> yeah, sure. i'm prepping. maybe not in the traditional way. when i had the debates, i had 11 debates with the, as you know, in the primaries.

and i was very satisfied. everybody else was very satisfied with the way i did. and i think i'm working the same way i did there. >> but this will be a lot different. there will be two candidates on that stage. it won't be, you know, the list that was there during the primary. >> well, we started off with 17 and in the end, we had just a few left. not that much different. >> any mock debates? >> ah, haven't thought about it much. could happen. but haven't really given it much thought. >> let me ask you, mr. trump, you just traveled to mexico. hillary clinton, who is also here in ohio, told us a short time ago that you choked. that the idea of mexico paying for this wall has been central to your campaign. did you choke? >> so, let me just tell you about choking. i don't choke. she chokes. she's responsible for so many bad things that have happened to our country, including the signing by her husband of nafta, which has trained our country of its jobs. i've been given a-plus, including by you people, but i've been given a-pluses for the job i did in mexico, and the fact is, mexico will pay for the wall.

it was discussed that it wouldn't be discussed, but they know my stance, and i know their stance. >> did the mexican president break his word? >> we had ground rules, that's okay. see who wins in the end. 100%, they're going to pay for the wall. >> let me ask you about rudy giuliani, said that donald trump would, quote, find it very difficult to throw a family that's been here in the united states for 15 years with kids who are now american citizens, out of this country. that that is not the america that donald trump wants. so, will some of these families be allowed to stay? >> he's 100% right. that's very difficult. very difficult thing to do. what we're going to do is, we're going to build a tremendously strong and powerful border. people are going to come in, but they're going to come in legally. we're going to get rid of all of the bads, the gang members, the drug lords and all of the different people that are here, and that shouldn't be here. we're going to clean things up. once we have a secure border, totally secure, we're going to take a look at the people that you're talking about. >> does that mean some of those 11 million undocumented

immigrants will be allowed to stay? >> it could be, but what's going to happen is, if you are going to be a citizen, you're going to have to leave and you're going to have to come in. >> if they don't want to become a citizen? >> we'll have to make a determination. >> so, you're open to them staying here undocumented? >> i'm going to make a decision, or somebody will, whether it's me or somebody else, because perhaps, depend, by that time, we'll have a secure border, we'll have a wall. >> but david, let me also say, it's very appropriate to have lots of interest in what a president donald trump will do on illegal immigration. donald trump put the issue of illegal immigration at the center of the national debate. but what i'd also like to see and i think millions of americans would like to see is more clarity about hillary clinton's plan. >> governor pence, you are making news this week in revealing that you'll release your tax returns. >> sure. be a pretty quick read. >> pretty quick read. i'm curious. do you think the american voter has the right to see the tax

returns of donald trump before they vote on election day? >> you know, i'm very pleased to provide our tax returns, you're going to find out my family is a middle class family and that they'll be pretty clear evidence that we haven't profited from our 16 years in and around public life -- >> governor, i'm asking about donald trump, and every presidential candidate going back 40 years -- >> i'm releasing my tax returns. donald trump will release his tax returns. i'll give mine to y'all this week and he's going to provide his after a routine audit is done. >> as far as my taxes are concerned, the only one that cares is the press, and even the press -- it's not a big deal. >> you don't think there are any voters out there -- >> i don't think so. i think people don't care. i released the most extensive financial review of anybody in the history of politics. it's either 100 or maybe more pages of names of companies, locations of companies, et cetera. and it's a very impressive list. and everybody says that. but i've released it. massive list. far more than you get -- you don't learn much in a tax return.

>> tax returns do reveal how much someone's paid in taxes, and how much they've given in charitable giving. >> i've given a list. i have given that list. >> but you won't reveal what you paid in taxes unless the audit is done. >> when the audit is done, i will release. >> what's the most important issue they take to you about? >> jobs. most important, jobs. >> trump says he went back to ohio often, and often citing his opponent's stamina. >> let me ask, you have often talked about hillary clinton's stamina. you have even said she doesn't look presidential. >> i really do believe that. >> what do you mean by that? >> well, i just don't she has a presidential look. and you need a presidential look, you have to get the job done. i think if she went to mexico, she would have had a total failure. >> but when you talk about her not looking presidential, are you talking about esthetics here? >> i'm talking about -- hey, by the way, she says things about me that are horrible. the single greatest asset i have, according to those that know me is my temperament.

she came up with this maddion avenue line, let's talk about his tempt prament. it's the single greatest asset i have. >> you're 70, she's 68. do you think the american people deserve to know more about both of you and your medical -- >> sure, i do. i would love to give specifics as far as i'm concerned. if she wants to do, i'll do it 100%. >> why not go first? >> in fact, now that you ask, i will do that. >> you will? what will your temperament be on that debate stage 20 days from now? >> i can't tell you, because i'm not sure that i know. it will depend. you are going to have to adjust, you're going have to see. you need flexibility. in life, david, you need flexibility. it may be very nice and it may be very respectful and it may not. >> you heard donald trump there promise he will release more of his medical history. we reached out to his campaign late today and they told us they will kee