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very much. as we finish out, one lucky person -- ticket holder from the garden state became a billionaire overnight. it sold at a liquor store. the business says in a few minutes state officials will hold a press conference in that store in neptune, township. look at the podium that's been set up. the winner of the drawing has not yet come forward. the store owner that sold the ticket is going to be speaking. the person or people who have that billion dollar plus ticket aren't showing up yet. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can watch clips from our show on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. up next, treasury secretary janet yellen joins andrea mitchell for a one-on-one interview. andrea mitchell picks up our coverage right now.
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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the response teams works in baltimore after the bridge collapse. they are shifting from rescue to recovery as the city is mourning the loss of life. leaders assessing the economic impact of shutting down one of the nation's busiest ports. >> the consequences, the economic consequences, they cannot be overstated, and not just for the state of maryland. we are talking about what this means for the country. this is going to have enormous economic impact. it's the reason we are so focused on making sure we get this done right and get it done quickly. treasury secretary janet yellen joins me about the economic impact of the shutdown, as well as the effort to win over voters from the biden team. my conversation with the parents of evan gershkovich as they do everything they can to stay positive and hopeful a year after their son was jailed in
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russia. >> we are keeping ourselves optimistic. that's the best way we can cope with it. no pessimism. pessimism will kill all the hope. ♪♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. right now, the ntsb is expected to be on board the massive cargo ship that plowed into baltimore's francis scott key bridge causing its catastrophic collapse. despite's today rain and fog, investigators plan to intser -- interview crew members and evaluate how stable the bridge is under the twisted remains. they recovered the data recorder, which is like an airplane's black box, and could explain what went wrong. one theory cited by "the wall street journal" is the possibility that contaminated
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fuel might have crippled the ship, causing the loss of power and control. last night and today, crews have been sending robotic submarines to search the waters of the river in what is now a recovery mission. the fbi telling nbc that once divers enter the water, they will search by feel. >> reporter: what are they seeing and finding? >> mostly a lot of chunks of debris, rocks. we are searching for vehicles. you are looking for the shape of a vehicle. sonar is off the bottom, where a vehicle will cast a shadow. you look for a shadow with a certain height to mirror a vehicle. >> reporter: how dark is it? >> for a human, you will see it's stirred up, black water. you will not see light. it won't help because of
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everything in the water. it will be reflected back at you. sonar will come up as clear. >> reporter: the divers can't see anything? >> divers won't see anything. they work by feel with their hands once they get on the target. >> six construction workers who were filling potholes on the span are presumed dead. co-workers say the men were immigrants. some of the families say the missing include a father of six who was awaiting the birth of a grandchild and the other gentleman's family who say they hope to see the body. countless lives were saved thanks to a harbor pilot who issued a mayday and the first responders who shut down traffic.
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>> real time audio. we begin with tom costello who has been in baltimore on this since the beginning. the wee hours of the morning yesterday. tom, you spoke with the head of the ntsb this morning. what are they looking for on board the dali? >> the plan today -- the weather here is miserable. we have got heavy rain. it's cold. we have had wind. it's overcast. it matches the mood here. the ntsb had been planning to be on the ship today.
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they were on last night. they want to be back on today, identifying crew members that they want to interview. then they hoped to begin identifying and interviewing fire rescue personnel who were involved in the emergency response. i did talk to ntsb about recovering the critical piece of information, really coming out of the black box, if you will, the data recorder. here is that conversation. you recovered the voyage recorder, the so-called black box for ships. what does that tell you? >> it tells us quite a bit. it's one of the newer voyage data recorders which provides a greater number of parameters, everything from positioning of the ship, speed of the ship, what might have been occurring at the time with respect to power or operation. >> reporter: all of that's critical, especially in light of "the wall street journal" reporting of a possibility of contaminated fuel. ntsb's chief saying they are
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going to look at that as well. they have a long, long list of items to look at. she also went on to say, this is one of the most complex investigations the ntsb has ever undertaken. as you know, it's involved in virtually every kind of transportation and pipeline accident. this is a huge investigation. it could take them up to two years to actually come up with not just the what but the why. that's going to be critical going forward. they are on the ship. they hope to be on the ship today. i would make the point, the crew members are still on the ship. they have not come off. part of the reason for that could be, if you have got a crew of all international crew members -- these are mostly indian crew members -- if they don't have the paperwork to come on u.s. shore, they generally have to stay on the ship, even when they are in dock. right now, the crew members are
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on that ship despite the fact there's that bridge wreckage laying on top of the ship. >> this is extraordinary. put one of your other many hats on, tom. you are a great correspondent for us. this is one of the largest ports in the country. talk about the economic impact, the auto, the largest east coast auto and light trucks deliveries as well as farm equipment. >> reporter: all of that. absolutely. listen, most experts that we have been talking to, our colleagues at cnbc have been trying to run down some of this. chances are, according to the experts, there will be an impact in the mid-atlantic area. there's enough port activity up and down the east coast, those ports should be able to pick up where baltimore leaves off. however, ships currently in port
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in baltimore can't get out. ships that are hoping to get in won't get in. they may go to new york or jersey or norfolk or further south. we are unlikely to see the huge problems we have with the supply chain four years ago, because the supply chain is more resilient right now. more redundant than back then. we are going to see an impact with certain items trying to get in. for that matter, get out of the mid-atlantic region and baltimore is really the feeder port for the midwest. it's not -- that will have an impact on the economy around baltimore, it's not going to be crippling like the impact we had during the pandemic. >> that's good information. tom costello, thank you. we will have a lot more on the impact -- the economic impact of the baltimore bridge collapse. treasury secretary janet yellen
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more on the baltimore bridge collapse and the potential impact on america's economic supply chain from major industries such as the auto industry as well as farm and construction equipment. joining me now, i'm honored to say, treasury secretary janet yellen.
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thank you very much for coming on our program today. i wanted to ask you about the collapse of a major port, baltimore. i think it's the ninth largest in the u.s. it's not going to be open for months potentially. they don't know yet. from your perch as treasury secretary, what's the cost to the auto dealers and others waiting for light trucks and cars as well as farm equipment that comes through that port with this extended shutdown? >> first, let me say that my thoughts are very much with the victims of this tragedy. grateful due to quick thinking of people on the bridge that there wasn't more loss of life. we are trying to evaluate now what the impact may be of the
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bridge collapse. president biden has indicated that we will do everything as quickly as we possibly can to reopen the port, which is, as you said, one of the most important in the united states. we have a supply chain task force that will be meeting this afternoon to review what they know about the likely impact. but we're monitoring this very closely and prepared to take any steps that can be helpful. >> the president said he wants the federal government -- he made a pledge, the federal government will pay for bridge repay and recovery. i know there's a lot of money in the inflation reduction act that's been appropriated. beyond that, will you need appropriations? will taxpayers be on the hook? >> i'm not sure what the details are. we have money from the bipartisan infrastructure law that could potentially be
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helpful. my expectation would be that ultimately, there will be insurance payments in part to cover this. but we don't want to allow worrying about where the financing is coming to hold up reconstruction. >> the economic outlook and voter perception are improving. inflation has come way down. the president is still behind donald trump in the polls, and you have to worry about the macro economy. a survey showed donald trump is 16 points ahead of the president when voters were asked, who is better for them financially? 34% saying it makes no difference who is president. how can you as treasury secretary -- i know you don't do politics. how can you -- you are in georgia today -- get the message to people that the economy is better and improve it more? get those grocery prices down. help bring down the prices that
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people are feeling at their kitchen table. >> the president has indicated, and i agree, that getting the cost of living down should be number one. he proposed many different ways of doing this. one important way is by lowering energy prices and diminishing their volatility. right now, when putin invades ukraine or there's supply disruptions in the middle east, we can see oil and energy costs skyrocketing, haring america's families. the inflation reduction act is a comprehensive piece of legislation that's creating incentives to dramatically
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improve the use of clean energy in the united states. i'm here in georgia today visit a company called suniva which manufactures solar cells. this is, of course, a key input into solar panels. we have been very heavily dependent -- overdependent on china for our supplies of these goods. the incentives in the inflation reduction act have incentivized suniva to reopen their solar cell plant and to manufacture cells in the united states. as i said, over time, this will help lower household energy costs. but in addition, it's making our supply chains more resilient. and very importantly, it's creating very good jobs.
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jobs, most of which don't require a college education. in parts of the country that haven't seen a great deal of investment in recent decades. andrea, this is happening all over the country in things related to clean energy, in batteries, electric vehicles, wind. it's also happening in semiconductors as a consequence of the chips and science act, a bipartisan bill that was passed two years ago. a tremendous number of jobs relating to the bipartisan infrastructure act. what i want americans to see is how successful the president's agenda, which is not just a short-term agenda, but a medium and longer-term agenda that is designed to create good jobs in
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parts of the country that in many ways have been left behind and making us more secure in bringing down costs for americans. >> let me pick up on that. you are about to leave for china. i understand you are going to be warning china about the flood -- chinese goods are so heavily government subsidized. you are going to take that on. they have filed at the world trade organization against us for some of the things we have done and the ak acts you are talking about. are we getting into a trade war with china? >> we need to make clear what our concerns are. i believe we have legitimate concerns. there's no country in the world
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that subsidizes its priority industries as heavily as china does. clean energy, whether it's electric cars, battery, solar producers, the producers in china have received massive subsidies. i believe china's desire is to really have global domination of these industries. the firm that i will be visiting today was a successful producer of solar cells in the united states some years ago. about seven years ago, because china flooded the market with solar panels, drove down the prices so levels at which virtually no american company could compete. this company went bankrupt. we don't intend to let that happen again. we intend to have -- play a role
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to produce items that are critical for the clean energy economy, the inflation reduction act is designed to do that. we're seeing a wave of investment creating good jobs across the country. i intend to talk to the chinese when i visit about overcapacity in some of these industries and make sure that they understand the undesirable impact that this is having, flooding the market with cheap goods on the united states but also on many of our closest allies. >> let me finally ask you about a "new york times" report, but other reporting that we have done on elon musk and his relationship with china. tesla competing now against their cheaper evs. he is dependent on the chinese market. very tight in with them. he has huge defense contracts.
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his satellites are what we rely on for so much of our communication. is it a national security problem for -- and his rockets, of course. isn't it a national security problem for our government to have so much reliance on this one entrepreneur? >> look, we take national security very seriously and want to protect our national security. our desire is not to shut down economic relations with china. we want to diversify our supply chains. but many american firms operate in china and gain from the ability to sell to china's large market. china, obviously, sells a lot in the united states. and the competition among our
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firms is by and large a healthy thing. we want to stabilize that relationship, not shut it down. but also, we need to make sure that the playing field is level. and we are concerned that chinese subsiies and the impact on our firms. >> thank you very much, madam secretary. safe travels when you are on the road. we appreciate it. >> thank you, andrea. the growing divide. the breach widening between president biden and israel's prime minister netanyahu as they remain at odds over a potential invasion into rafah and its humanitarian costs. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. than floss at reducing plaque above the gumline. for a cleaner, healthier mouth. ahhhhh. listerine. feel the whoa! feeling claritin clear is like... ♪♪
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israel's defense minister said that israel shares, quote, 100% of the values and 99% of the interests with the united states. he also met with the defense secretary, the secretary of state, the national security director, the cia director. i was at a reporters roundtable and received some comments as well. at a meeting today with netanyahu's top advisors at white house, it's not taking place. it was canceled because of tensions between netanyahu and biden over rafah and the u.n. cease-fire resolution that the u.s. let pass. moments ago, nbc news confirming with a u.s. official that netanyahu's office has told the white house they would like to reschedule that canceled meeting and they are working to find a new date. a few things may have been ironed out with the defense minister. joining me is raf sanchez from
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central israel and colin clark. raf, what's the latest on the hostage talks in qatar? >> reporter: andrea, they have not broken down completely. but they are stalled, according to two sources familiar with the talks. the two main issues are ones that will be familiar to our viewers. there's this question of how many palestinian prisoners israel is going to be expected to release from its jails in exchange for the hostages. that ratio has been a very contentious issue throughout these talks. the other big issue, according to the sources, is this question of allowing palestinian civilians displaced to the south of the gaza strip to return back to their homes in the north. that's something that is very important to hamas negotiators. it's something israel has been very reluctant to do. the debate about how many palestinian civilians can be allowed to return and under what circumstances is part of what is stalling these talks. these talks have been maddening
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for negotiators inside the room. they have been agony for people in gaza, waiting for a cease-fire, for the families of the hostages in israel. the reality is, it's looking like the negotiations are the only show in town. that u.n. security council resolution passing. the u.n. calling for a cease-fire and the unconditional release of the hostages. here we are days later, and it doesn't appear it's having much impact on the ground. the u.n. saying in the hours after that vote in new york took place, double digits number of palestinian children were killed by israeli bombing in the south of gaza. >> i can just tell you from everything that defense minister gallant said in d.c., they are committed to gaza. he did say on the record that he is -- they are communicating on new ideas.
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they are open to new ideas. there's 100% agreement on values and 99% -- 1% disagreement. i think that's exaggerating the level of agreement right now. he was trying to emphasize where the two countries do come together and narrow the gaps. >> i do think there's a bit more daylight than they would like to believe. they are trying to present a united front. at the same time, there was an article in the "wall street journal" today saying that the u.s. intends no to the stop the offensive but to shape it and to make sure the israelis are taking the utmost precautions to protect civilians. if you look at the relationship between netanyahu and biden more broadly, these are two very prideful individuals. as a fellow irishman like biden, i would stay stubborn. i don't mean that necessarily negative. they believe they are right. that's why you see the clashes
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so frequently. >> other senior officials also the defense ministry did tell his general staff to talk to the joint staff and follow up on his meetings here in ways to shape that, ways -- these so-called alternatives. now we know from both sides that the talks with the top advisor to netanyahu will be re-scheduled. raf, colin, thank you both so much. after the supreme court seemed skeptical, at least a majority of them, of efforts to restrict the abortion drug mifepristone, some state lawmakers are moving to protect reproductive rights. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc.
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the supreme court justices, both liberal and conservative,
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appeared skeptical, most of them, of the challenge to limit access to the abortion pill mifepristone which would be a relief to the growing number of health care providers and women who have turned to medication abortion in the aftermath of the overturning roe v. wade in 2022. researchers shows that medication abortion accounts for 63% of abortions in the u.s. last year. a jump from 2020 when the pill was used in 53% of abortions. joining us now, massachusetts governor maura healey. thank you for being with us today. in listening to the arguments yesterday, it seemed as though the majority might decide this on a narrow ground of standing, that the doctors who were the plaintiffs here could not show that they were harmed, which would leave it open -- an open question maybe after the election next term for the justices to take another look at the pill with another set of plaintiffs. it could be in jeopardy.
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what should states, governors like yourself, where this is legal, do to try to protect its availability? >> well, i think they should do what i have done, which is to stockpile mifepristone. we have a lot of mifepristone available here in the state. we have helped other providers get their own supply. i signed an executive order making sure we were protecting patients and providers when it comes to the administering of medication abortion. we need to do everything now and not wait for the court's ruling. i listened to the arguments. i know as a former attorney general not to read too much into lines of questioning. let's talk about what really is going on in this case. the plaintiffs are doctors. they are doctors who have an extreme anti-abortion agenda. that's what they're trying to push through. it's a dangerous situation when you have the court taking up the
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question not only about mifepristone, which is probably one of the most studied and safest products out there, proven to be safer than tylenol, viagra and penicillin. and you have courts and lawyers now arguing about what the fda does. the fda, scientists, who are making these decisions, making these calls. that's why we need to do everything as states to ensure protection for medication abortion and also make sure that we are being clear with the court as we were, joining other states in a brief in this very matter to say how harmful it would be if we return to a day when medication abortion weren't available. >> your state is one of a handful with laws to protect health care providers prescribe and send abortion pills to patients in states that have banned abortion. are you worried activists will
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target those laws next? >> they may try to do that. we will stand firm on this. this is about women's health and women's health care. the thing that's so upsetting to me, andrea, is that what the plaintiffs here are trying to do is going to cause substantial harm to women. we would have a situation where women -- it would be substantially harder for women to access a way to terminate their pregnancy. it's also the case that it would raise health care costs. imagine instead of getting a telehealth prescription, you are required to see a person in person not once, not twice, but three times. those are doctors who could be doing other things like cancer screening and other kinds of health care. it's just bad all around. i hope the supreme court sees its way through to a decisive and favorable ruling that
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protects access to medication abortion and also protects what the fda and scientists and experts are supposed to do. >> last night, a democratic candidate won a special election for statehouse seat in alabama. she made abortion rights and ivf central to her campaign. are there lessons there for democrats across the country? >> well, we have a candidate for president in donald trump who is talking about a nationwide abortion ban. i think that in election after election, we have seen the voters come out and speak very clearly, decisively that they support women's access to abortion. i think it will continue to be a campaign issue. i think it's a winning issue for democrats. the vast majority of americans -- republican and democrat -- believe that women should have access to abortion. >> governor healey, thank you very much.
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least the end of june. the u.s. is calling the charges untrue. friday is a year since his arrest ahead of the somber anniversary i sat down with his family and they told me they are not giving up hope. as a child, he wa a future reporter, always curious. >> he wanted to know the story, why we came to the united states. always interested. >> they left russia during the cold war. the family spoke russian at home. his mother giving evan and his sister russian names. >> to me, he is vanya. >> he made friends everywhere which helped him as a journalist. >> he was interested in people, telling people's story. >> when he decided to move to russia in 2017, they were excited for him, visiting him. >> we saw russia through his eyes. we were with such a great guide to new russia that we didn't experience before. >> everything changed when
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vladimir putin invaded ukraine. evan relocated to london, still often reporting in russia. last march, his mother got an unsettling call. it was evan reporting in a remote russian city. >> he said that he needs to finish this story and he will go back next week. >> two days later, he was arrested, accused of espionage. >> it was numbing. it's hard to feel anything. it's hard to think about anything. >> the white house calls the charges ridiculous. his parents are grateful for the support but say that's not enough. >> evan is not here. it has been a year. >> it has been all four seasons. he spent his birthday and all the holidays. >> in a courtroom visit, they spoke to them through a glass cage in russian with guards monitoring every word. still, his family remains hopeful. >> we are keeping ourselves optimistic. that's the best way we can cope
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newly minted rnc co-chair lara trump is trying to move past 2020, despite her father-in-law, former president trump still pushing unfounded accusations that the biden victory was rigged. nbc's garrett haake sat down with ms. trump for an exclusive, wide-ranging interview. >> is it going to be the position of the lnc in 2024 that the 2020 election was not fairly decided or that it was stolen somehow? >> well, i think we're past that. i think that's in the past. we learned a lot. certainly we took a lot of notes. right now we have 23 states that have 78 lawsuits in these states
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to ensure that it is harder to cheat and easier to vote, and every single person, whether you're a republican or democrat, should want that. we want fairness and transparency in our elections. the past is the past, and unfortunately, we had to learn a couple of hard lessons in 2020. >> and joining me now, nbc news senior capitol hill and campaign correspondent dpar garrett haake, and former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. so garrett, first to you, what were some of the other highlights from your interview? because this was a great interview. >> thank you. we covered a lot of ground, everything from her view that donald trump is ultimately not going to take a position on a federal abortion ban, that he's going to leave it with the states. >> see what he has to say about that. >> it's a policy part of that to watch. i think my two big takeaways, the desire for lara trump and a
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lot of other republicans to try to turn the page on 2020 and get republican voters to support things like mail-in voting and voting early but without grappling with why so many of their members don't believe that election was fairly decided. in some polls two-thirds of republican voters don't think 2020 was fair. they want the tactics of 2024 without acknowledging why this is a problem within their party and who created that problem. i think we'll see that continue. the other thing i found when i asked her about outreach to specific groups of people, the trump campaign is focused on black voters, on trying to get those nikki haley voters back in the fold. the answer to all of those questions is because joe biden is so bad in their view. there's not a targeted outreach. there's not a desire to extend a hand to different groups or shape their message in specific ways. this is a binary choice. joe biden is bad. you've got to come be with donald trump whether you like it or not. it's an interesting strategy, i don't know how well it will work
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for them, it's a strategy. lower everybody to the same level. >> that is an interesting strategy, donald trump is selling pricey bibles now for $60. country music star lee greenwood, let's watch system of his sales pitch. >> we've lost religion in our country. all americans need a bible in their home, and i have many. it's my favorite book. it's a lot of people's favorite book. >> and garrett, let's talk about this also for a second because the last time you saw him hold ing a bible it was on june 1st standing in front of st. john's church and he was holding it upside down. >> you might have seen that, i'd been tear gassed a couple of miles away. i wasn't able to get close enough to it. this is a particularly unusual example of something we shouldn't be that surprised by. donald trump has put his name on essentially anything he can from water to steaks to the trump
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university degree program such as it was, and i think what we're seeing now is that he has no intention of stopping that trend just because he is a presidential candidate again. >> and barbara, let me bring you in on donald trump's hush money case. the judge putting a partial gag order on him, forbidding him from talking about witnesses and court staff. how is that going to be enforced, and doesn't the former president tend to ignore these gag orders? this is the trial that's about to start. >> yes, that is the key here. the judge put a gag order in place. he's not permitted to talk about the witnesses in their role as witnesses, about court staff, about prosecution staff or about jurors, but there's a lot of leeway to say other things. he can talk about his innocence, he can talk about an unfounded prosecution, he can even say things about alvin bragg where the judge himself and just these others in the court say it's designed to promote the integrity of the trial. to make sure the case is fought
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in court, and not in the court of public opinion. enforcement, a judge does have contempt powers to enforce their orders. i imagine if donald trump is to violate this gag order that we'll see escalating progressive discipline from things like admonitions to fines. the ultimate penalty is jail. i don't know if we'll see that in light of the fact this is a person campaigning for president. >> the texas immigration law, sb.4 is going to remain on hold. the appeals court ruling the fifth circuit saying that it has to be sorted out by the supreme court, i guess. >> yes, and you know, this was clearly the signal we got from the supreme court last week, even though they themselves failed to put it on hold. they strongly signaled that this was the job of the fifth circuit, and they ought to do that. by a 2 to 1 ruling, they decided to do that, and so now we'll see the issue on the merits decided by the supreme court. but in the meantime, we preserve the status quo of federal law
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being supreme. >> and just very briefly, garrett, what lara trump also told you is that people who are donors can opt out of paying for his legal bills. >> that's right, the rnc will not support him directly. if you give to the broader constellation of groups that your big check would go to the party, you could say i don't want to support donald trump's legal bills. we'll see how that all shakes out as well. >> garrett haake and barbara mcquade, thank you. barbara's book, attack from within, how disinformation is sabotaging america. on the matter of the republican national committee, nbc news announced last night that the party's former chairwoman, ronna mcdaniel will not be a paid contributor days after she was hired, after many of us correspondents and anchors at nbc and msnbc objected publicly and privately because of her stance on fake electors and the 2020 campaign and her attacks on news organizations including ours. as viewers know, this program has since it began 15 years ago been dedicated to including
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credible political voices from all parties, all points of view and will continue to do so. that is our mission. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember, follow the show on social media @mitchellreports, and you can rewatch highlights from the show anytime on youtube. just go to msnbc.com/andrea, and at the same time please join us tonight on the wall street journal website because lester holt and family and friends, i will all be there at "the wall street journal" headquarters in new york city, and we're going to be reading from evan gershkovich's writings, his articles, his articles inside russia. his articles written before he was arrested so that you know more about what this reporter was doing, how special he was, how it's ridiculous to even talk about him being, you know, in espionage and all of that. he's now been held this week a
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year and his family and his friends will be there and a lot of other boldfaced names, plus, you know, lester holt. i'll be there too. so join us there and highlights from his janet yellen interview will be on youtube. thank you all for watching. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. ahmaud arbery's aunt called it the worst day of her life hearing that her nephew's killers would appeal their hate crime convictions. the arbery family traveling to atlanta to be in court today, forced to relive the pain of ahmed's death years after they thought the legal part of it was over. what happened in court today and what it could all mean going forward. plus, the ntsb begins the arduous task of figuring out how and why a cargo ship brought