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recovery mission in baltimore. the time frame for a rescue has ended. the six missing are now presumed dead. ahead, the investigation and the latest on it as the ntsb gets ahold of the ship's data recorder. also this morning, the economic impact, it's not just baltimore, the port and the bridge were key to the northeast corridor. what it could mean for prices. plus, don't say it, judge juan merchan puts a gag order on the hush money case, what donald trump won't be allowed to talk about. later, laura trump sits down with nbc's garrett haake, what the new rnc chair still won't admit and what the rnc is now asking new hires. ♪♪ it is 10:00 a.m. here in new york. i'm katy tur in for ana cabrera. recovery workers are now looking for the bodies of six
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construction workers. officials suspended search and rescue efforts overnight as water temperatures, currents, and conditions diminished any chance to find survivors. at the same time, on the investigation into the crash itself, there is news. the ntsb announced it has the ship's data recorder. with us now from baltimore is nbc's tom llamas. also with us former baltimore mayor stephanie rawlings-blak. tom, i'm going to give with you. what's the latest on the investigation? >> as you mentioned, katy, the new news that we have is overnight was able to board the dolly, they were able to speak with some of the crew members and get the voyage data recorder chrks is essentially the black box for these cargo vessels. they're going to release it to the public later today, i just wrapped up an interview with the fbi dive team that is sort of centering their search with
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remote operated vehicles. they call them rovs. they send them into the water to map out with cameras and sonar what's beneath the water. here's what that dive supervisor told me. >> what have your teams been able to see down there is this how bad is it? >> the debris field is pretty sizable. i know that's why they're hesitant to send divers down. some of the debris is still shifting, the heavy weight of the rocks. it's dark, good camera footage from our rov footage, but the sonar still shows up very well. >> reporter: katie, if you listen there closely, it's very interesting what he says because he says no divers from the fbi have actually been able to enter the water just yet. they're just using these underwater drones because it's too dangerous. he says the visibility is pretty much black. they can't see anything. every now and then they'll get an image from the camera, but it's all sonar. they're trying to map out exactly where some of these vehicles that were on the bridge
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landed, and it's my understanding from the interview and it's still early in the investigation, but it sounds like they believe maybe some of the victims may have been trapped in their own vehicles once the bridge collapsed and hit the water. it's still so early and the sense i got from talking to them is that this is going to be a very long time until they can move some of this debris down there and see what they're looking at. >> that was my question, the follow-up. the construction workers who were on the bridge. were they in their car at the time, were they perhaps on a break at the time of the bridge collapse? >> reporter: yeah, that was my sense from the interview that that's one theory that they're working on right now, but my big takeaway, katy, is that they are so far from this process from locating those bodies, at least from what i heard just because the debris field is so massive and they literally cannot see anything. they're mapping stuff with sonar and then eventually when things get a little safer, they'll send divers in when they know almost
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for sure they should investigate that area. that could be days if not weeks. >> tom, thank you very much. richard, i want to talk about what tom just mentioned there that there's so much debris in the water that the fbi divers can't safely go down. how do they clear debris from a shipping lane like that where there are currents? there's also a tidal aspect. >> i think probably depending on the weight, there's going to be a lot of cranes involved, and there's probably floating cranes because it's in the channel, which is maybe 50, 60 feet deep, and there's also cranes in the -- as you go off the channel, it gets pretty shallow, so they could have trains that are on the bottom, and they'll help -- that will help them move the heavy debris that's on the bottom. >> what's your sense of how long that might take? >> it's always hard to estimate. you have to assess the situation first, but the technology of all of that has improved quickly, and i think there's certainly a regional and maybe national mission in doing this quickly. >> the president says the federal government is going to pay for it. we'll see if congress agrees to that and does it quickly.
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it's going to cost quite a bit of money. what does it mean for baltimore to have this bridge collapse? >> so to the spirit of our city, it has been devastating. the francis scott key bridge has been a part of the landscape of the city since i think '77. it's hard to think about our -- you know, the layout, you know, you see the domino sign. you see the aquarium. you see the bridge, and it is no longer. so it is devastating, but economically it's hard to quantify. the port of baltimore is one of the most significant ports on the east coast. it's most inward port, and it is responsible for moving products all throughout the country. >> and the world. >> right. >> and that impact is going to be, as we start to think about the cost of this, that impact is really mounting. >> every day that this port is closed is a day that a dollar --
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more dollars than we can think of are lost. obviously there's the intense effort to try to recover the bodies, the human tragedy here, the unthinkable loss that occurred, but there's also just the reality that you've got to get people moving back and forth. you not only do not have this bridge, you've got to rely on other local routes, which is going to increase traffic, but now you don't have the port. so in clearing the port, how important is it to get this done quickly? and if it takes weeks to clear it, what is that going to mean? >> it's going to take more than weeks to clear it. i will say as we think about the tragedy and the families and we continue to pray for them, we also have to have an eye toward the future, and i think that this is an opportunity to show american greatness. we have the best engineers in the world. we have the best builders in the world. and this is an opportunity for us to show that. there was, i think, in europe a
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bridge that was collapsed and it had -- was rebuilt in less than two years. i think we can beat that, and i think it can be better than it's ever, you know, than any bridge in our country. that's the opportunity we're faced with and the value of the port, i think, demands that. >> richard, do you think it can happen that quickly? >> it's hard to bet on how long it's going to take. the united states can do things quickly when we want to, and when there's a mission, our infrastructure's notorious for being slow and sometimes over cost and over budget, but i think in a case where there's a real purpose here, we can have a beautiful new design, a more resilient bridge and do it pretty quickly, katy. >> they got the highway fixed in pennsylvania after that accident with the fuel truck relatively quickly, much quicker than they thought. stephanie rawlings-blake, thank you very much for joining us and richard getties, director of the cornell program in infrastructure policy and a baltimore area native. joining us now is maryland senator ben cardin. it's really good to have you. i want to talk about the pilot
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that was on board that ship, it wasn't the captain of the ship but a local pilot that gets on board to help them, these cargo ships navigate the waters to help them get out. he was able to correctly assess that the ship lost power and it was going to start drifting and could potentially hit the bridge, and he was able to call out on local channels to officials who could stop traffic from getting onto that bridge. had he not been able to do that, what might we have seen? >> well, katy, first of all, it's good to be with you. recognize from what we've seen on the video, that captain had less than five minutes in making all the decisions that were made, including the may day call, including trying to direct the ship, the vessel. in those few minutes, law enforcement responded unbelievably quickly and saved lives, if they hadn't closed the bridge to vehicle traffic, there would have been many more
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fatalities. so lives were saved as a result of quick action when the may day call and on the response by local law enforcement. >> the president says the federal government is going to pay for it. what is your expectation about how quickly congress will move to approve those funds? >> well, first of all, i talked to the president yesterday, he was very clear in his public statements and his private conversations with us that the federal government will be there. he's going to use his executive power, and he'll use the resources that are currently available for the immediate needs. the immediate needs is recovery, and then to get the port opened, we got to get that shipping lane opened as quickly as possible. every day it's closed it's millions of dollars lost to our local economy and affects global commerce. so the president will use his executive authority. he's not going to wait for additional congressional support. he'll move quickly, but he's going to need congressional help, and in these circumstances, we believe congress will come together. i've heard from my colleagues on
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both sides of the aisle that they're there to help. i know senator van hollen and i will be doing everything we can to make sure the resources are provided through congress. >> so this cargo ship had a tug boat attached to it to get it out of ports, but the tugs released before it got through the harbor. at that point it was just the pilot on board. should there be a reconsideration about the process at these ports, whether there should be tug boats attached to these container ships, one or two, to get them safely out of the port and into open waters? >> katy, i hope that the independent investigation that is done will help answer some of those types of questions. that is a question as to whether the tug should have been used to further to get through valuable infrastructure and safety, but the normal practice is that once the vessel is under its own power, there's no further turns that are necessary that the tugs leave the assistance. whether that's the right policy moving forward, that's what the investigation will help us answer. >> what do you make of the
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infrastructure of the bridge itself? obviously this is a huge, a huge ship that hit into it, but should there be considerations taken to how we construct these bridges to maybe be able to better withstand even a freak accident like this one? >> well, this bridge is built in 1970s, the vessels now are much larger and much more heavier capacities, so i think we need to revisit that, and i expect that investigation will help us to determine how to build this bridge in the most effective way moving forward, the replacement bridge, but recognize that this type of vessel, its weight, the number of containers that were on it, its speed, and its loss of steering made it very difficult for any bridge that would withstand that type of collision. the investigation will show us how we can minimize this from ever happening again in the future. as we rebuild this bridge, let's build it in a way that provides
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maximum safety. >> we only have preliminary information about the victims, but we believe them to be migrants who were sending money back to family. what recourse will those families have to try to get some sort of answers for their loved one's death and potentially some financial help now that their breadwinners, if you will, for lack of a better term, are no longer with them? >> sure, our prayers are with the families. this is just horrible. they are entitled to be compensated. we believe that there's certain parties that are going to be held responsible. that will be part of the process, but we are assessing to make sure that all of the people who have been damaged, it's not just the victims and their families. there's going to be businesses that are going to be literally put out of business unless we can help them because of the impact of the port being closed. there's workers that are not going to be able to get paychecks. we have a lot of accountability as a result of this incident, and we appreciate the fact that
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president biden has said he'll be there to help us, the federal government will be there to help us, but also those responsible need to be held accountable and that's what the investigation will show. >> senator ben cardin, thank you very much. coming up next, gagged again, what donald trump can and cannot say about his new york hush money trial. also, new rnc co-claire lara trump says 2020 is in the past, but what exactly does that mean when it comes to her father-in-law? and later, will it be safe? nbc's keir simmons joins us on the security preparations for the paris olympics. we're back in 60 seconds. s for the paris ymolpics we're back in 60 seconds
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jurors. joining us now nbc news correspondent dasha burns. so dasha, what's the reaction been from donald trump and his team for yet another gag order? >> look, the reason the judge imposed this order is because he laid out in that order the history of inflammatory remarks saying that the defendant has a history of threatening, inflammatory, and denigrating remarks writing that the defendant's prior extrajudicial statements establishes a sufficient risk to the administration of justice. there exists no less restrictive means to prevent such risk, and they say that the order is actually pretty narrow. he's allowed to go after the judge. he's allowed to go after bragg. he just can't go after witnesses, jurors, and court staff. he did go after another judge's law clerk recently. of course the former president is not happy about this, his team calling this unconstitutional and the question is will he actually be able to -- himself. >> saying it's infringing upon his political speech.
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msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin, joins us as well. dasha was mentioning the past examples of donald trump going after staff, going after witnesses, family members, and judge juan merchan clearly doesn't want that to happen here. what might judge merchan do in response? is it different for criminal court? >> being held in contempt in a criminal court could be different than a civil court. it remains to be seen how far trump will push judge merchan. people to whom he's done this in the past, he did it three times over the last 48 hours. he spoke after monday's hearing about matthew coe lang low, he truth socialed about both michael cohen and about the judge's own daughter, who is as dasha noted not covered by this order, but may have provoked judge merchan to enter the order yesterday as he did. sometimes in this case we get filings belatedly. this is an order that was signed
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clearly march 26th, that's yesterday. something might have happened to have caused judge merchan to enter this order exactly now. >> tell me a little bit about judge merchan. we know a lot about judge engoron now, we knew a lot about judge kaplan. who's judge merchan? >> first of all, i should note just like any other judge in the new york state system, juan merchan is an elected official. that comes with some baggage. judges in new york typically come up through a party system. they're identifiable with not only a particular political party but oftentimes with neighborhood based political clubs. merchan is definitely more in the mold of a judge kaplan than a judge engoron. he is no nonsense. he's precise. he explains what he's doing and why he's doing it, and then after giving you some opportunity to explain yourself, he's done. there is a moment at the hearing on monday where tom blanch wanted to explain further and basically said it's their
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burden, your honor, and he said, no, no, no, it's yours. i was going to ask you how he treated todd blanche on the hearing on monday or tuesday? >> on monday. >> i remember the way judge kaplan treated alina habba, and he was very stern with her. >> i would say this is more cordial, more professional, but again, the lawyers in this case have not pushed merchan as far as the lawyers in the carroll cases did. by the time judge kaplan was dealing with alina habba, he was on his second of two carroll trials, and there had been a number of shenanigans and mild disobedience of his edicts before we got to that point. >> let's talk about the other things happening with donald trump. this is the truth social going public. what's the deal with that? how's that going? >> yeah, well, yesterday was actually a pretty good day for the former president. it surged about 50% in the morning. then went back down a little bit, but still rose about 16% by the end of the day.
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that means trump now has a stake valued at about$4.6 billion. now, the reason people are calling this a meme stock, katy, is because there is a disconnect between -- >> the amount of money the company actually makes and the amount of money it's being valued at. >> exactly right, so what this means for the people who are investing in this longer term, a big question mark. and there is a lockup period on his shares, which means -- >> six months, right? >> six monthmonths, but the peon the board could potentially waive that and they are all folks who have been loyal to the president in the past. >> or they're related to ls extended its stay on the texas immigration law. the supreme court kicked the case back down to them earlier this month. if allowed to go into effect, senate bill 4 would give texas the authority to arrest, prosecute, and deport undocumented immigrants.
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objective for the rnc? donald trump's daughter-in-law is the cochair of the party apparatus now, she sat down with nbc's garrett haake to explain her mandate and what she is saying currently about 2020 and what that could mean for 2024? >> is it going to be the position of the rnc in 2024 that the 2020 election was not fairly decided or that it was stolen somehow? >> i think we're past that. i think that's in the past. we learned a lot. certainly we took a lot of notes. right now we have 23 states that have 78 lawsuits in these states to ensure that it is harder to cheat and easier to vote. we want fairness and transparency in our elections. >> garrett haake joins me now. garrett, good to have you. all right, so i guess my question is what does that mean when she says it's in the past and we've learned a lot? >> yeah, look, i learned a lot from this interview, and what i saw was the struggle that she and i think a lot of republicans have between trying to push the
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party into the modern way elections are conducted, encouraging folks to vote by mail and vote early and embrace those tactics while also not giving up some of the lies that are at the center of the 2020 campaign that somehow the election was fraudulent or somehow stolen from donald trump. so what you're seeing is an effort by the rnc to try and push this forward, the lawsuits that she's talking about, trying to tighten up ballot access and voters requirements in different states to try to convince their voters essentially that some result -- all the results will be legitimate and perhaps not just donald trump winning would be the kind of thing that would make them happy. she made clear across the course of this interview, it is very much donald trump's party. they will follow his lead on ukraine. to a certain degree they will follow his lead on abortion, although she says she does believe he's committed to leaving this to the states. she does not see the party itself spending its money, donors' money on the former
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president's legal bills. here's a bit of our discussion on that topic. >> does that support for him financially include paying his legal bills directly? >> not from the rnc it does not support paying his legal bills. >> how do you tell people sending money to the rnc that it's more important to put their money towards paying the legal bills of billionaire than helping elect republicans in pennsylvania or in michigan? >> if you've never had to hire a lawyer, you're doing great stuff. you're in great shape. i'm very happy for you. that is the water fall of the joint fund-raising committee you're referencing. anyone who does not want to contribute to that very small amount of money is able to opt out of that. >> katy, what they're talking about here is the idea if you're a big donor and you write a huge check to the joint fund-raising committee. money goes first to the trump campaign, then to the pac, the save america pac that has been paying his bills and then trickles down to these different rnc entities. here she's saying sophisticated donors can opt out of that process if they so choose,
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trying to keep some lines between the trump legal and trump political operations. >> let me ask you about the rnc itself, what do we know about the hiring process and what questions might be asked. "the washington post" is reporting that some of them are getting asked about their thoughts and feelings towards the 2020 election. >> yeah, i've seen this reporting in "the washington post" and on another network's website, the idea whether or not the election was stolen or the methods by which voting laws changed in different states is coming up in interviews. i can tell you that i spoke to a trump campaign and rnc spokesperson about this, and their line on it was that we want people who are essentially at the tip of the spear in these swing states to understand what were the issues and concerns of their voters there and how the voting laws might have changed in 2020 and how we sort of take advantage of that in 2024. whether that is just spin or whether this is just more of a kind of loyalty gauge for prospective employees, i can't answer now. i think it's something that is worthy of further scrutiny, especially what lara trump told
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us about trying to move the party past 2020. >> garrett haake, thank you very much. on the other side, president biden and vice president harris made a joint appearance in north carolina yesterday, a purple state that is showing signs of potentially being blue this season. joining us now is nbc's shaquille brewster. so shaq, tell us what you've been finding out about north carolina. >> reporter: that joint appearance we saw yesterday was somewhat rare to see the president and vice president on the same stage, and it was a clear signal to democrats here that they're taking north carolina seriously. north carolina is a state with some changing demographics. it's rapidly growing. it's a rare opportunity for the biden campaign to go on offense in a state that donald trump won twice. >> hello, hello raleigh. >> a biden campaign show of force in north carolina. >> it is good to be back in this beautiful state. >> reporter: the president and vice president on the trail together working to buck a losing streak for democratic
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presidential candidates here. while democrats haven't won a presidential race here in north carolina since 2008, many 2020, president biden came within striking distance losing by just 1.3%. but this year with state polls showing a tight battle, north carolina's democrats hope down ballot races will drive energy up the party ticket. >> josh stein. >> reporter: nice to meet you, starting with the race for governor, where democratic attorney general josh stein is facing the outspoken lieutenant governor mark robinson who's earned headlines for making controversial and incendiary comments. >> now is not the time for this party to have weaklings who are unwilling to stand up and face the hoard. >> stein campaigning with biden but keeping the focus on state issues like medicaid expansion and public education at his individual stops. in a state where voters have elected a democrat for governor in seven of the last eight
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cycles. >> the thing about north carolina is voters will go one way in federal races and another way in state races. >> why is that? >> it's just the dynamic. there's sort of an inherent sense of balance. >> reporter: a balance the biden campaign is vowing to tilt in 2024, this week unveiling their strategy in the south. policy focused visits to north carolina and georgia, tens of millions spent on early television ads. >> and joe biden gets that. >> reporter: and a focus on key suburban areas where nikki haley showed strength in the republican primary. >> yeah, and i'm saying why not? like why not north carolina? why not every state in the south right now do we not see that. >> reporter: the 26-year-old chair of the north carolina democratic party, anderson clayton says the efforts will need to continue for biden to overcome the political headwinds from courting rural voters to breaking voter apathy. >> yes, he can win this state. is that going to be an easy thing to do? no because it's going to be a fight. it takes early investment. it takes boots on the ground
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everywhere. it takes people getting out into these communities and building the coalitions that he needs to say this is how they fought for us. >> reporter: meanwhile, republicans are also expressing that optimism, not just pointing to the head to head matchups but to polling showing donald trump leading on key issues like immigration and the economy. the rnc spokesperson said to us that democrats lit money on fire. that's her words. in 2016 and 2020, and she believes they're on track to do it again. >> shaq brewster, thank you very much. human tragedy, now an economic tragedy, the ripple effects of the key bridge collapse and what it did to the local and national economy. a member of baltimore's city council joins me on the time line for repairs. me line for repairs struggling with the highs and lows of bipolar 1? ask about vraylar. because you are greater than your bipolar 1, and you can help take control of your symptoms with vraylar. some medicines only treat the lows or highs. vraylar treats depressive, acute manic, and mixed episodes
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the port of baltimore is closed this morning freezing shipping out of and into one of the largest ports in this country, which is costing importers and exporters quite a bit of money, financial losses that could get passed on to you. joining us now, nbc's tom costello. so tom, talk about the economic impact of just having this port shut down. >> reporter: yeah, and by the way, the ntsb chief told me that right about now ntsb investigators have planned to be on board the ship as they now start to identify the key players, the people who work on that ship, to identify and interview them, and they've now got the vyage data recorder,
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the so-called black box, for the ship. they're going to be looking at the data off that black box very closely. but as it relates to the economic impact could be quite significant. this port, one of the biggest in the country, is now closed indefinitely, probably weeks, if not months. a month or more. the bridge itself, we may be looking at years before they can rebuild that. here in baltimore, the massive cleanup effort hasn't even started yet. local commuters and the nation's critical supply chain must now adjust for what could be an extremely lengthy and costly effort to return to normal. >> the path to normalcy will not be easy. it will not be quick. it will not be inexpensive, but we will rebuild together. >> reporter: the busy port of baltimore almost entirely cut off blocked by a large portion of the fallen francis scott key bridge, after that overnight collision involving a massive cargo ship. the ninth busiest in the nation,
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baltimore's port handled more than $80 billion in international cargo last year. located in the heart of the mid-atlantic, baltimore is the closest east coast port to the midwest, and within a day's drive to a third of the entire country's population. it's also the nation's top port in terms of handling farm and construction machinery and cars and light trucks with nearly 850,000 vehicles passing through last year. >> there is no question that this will be a major and protracted impact to supply chains. >> reporter: the key bridge spanning just a mile and a half of the 51 mile plus baltimore beltway, still a vital local artery, carrying more than 11 million vehicles last year. >> drivers in this area are going to feel the impact pretty quickly here. >> reporter: that includes nearly 4,900 truck drivers every day. many of them use the bridge because of size and restrictions
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barring hazardous materials from going through the city's two main express tunnels. >> there's going to be significant disruptions to trucking on the east coast. >> reporter: still, experts say it's unlikely we will see a massive supply chain backup like the one the country experienced during the pandemic. yeah, that's really important here, and the reason for that is because they say that they have now built out a more resilient supply chain since the pandemic. and keep in mind, the biggest problem with the supply chain during the pandemic is china had shut down, right? there wasn't supply coming in, and there was a huge backup of ships out on the water anyway trying to get in because of our own pandemic. that's not the case this time. yes, we have ships that can't get in. ships that can't get out of baltimore, but there are other ports that are operating fully and very well up and down the east coast, so the economic impact may not be quite as severe, won't be as severe for sure, as what will be experienced through the pandemic, katy.
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>> hopefully we can absorb it in other ways. joining us now, felicia porter. thank you for joining us. it's so disruptive to have this bridge gone. how is the city of baltimore currently navigating now without this passage? >> well, first and foremost, we are focused on the lives that have been lost and the impact on their families. as mentioned by secretary buttigieg and mayor scott and governor moore, in the coming weeks and months we'll be able to have that economic recovery discussion. we know that the port of baltimore is extremely important to my district and to the city of baltimore and also to the region, but after these conversations are had, we'll be able to have a better plan of economic recovery for the region. >> do you have a sense of i know the dive effort to recover these bodies is beg hampered by the fact that the bridge is still in the water, it's making it very difficult and dangerous according to the fbi dive team,
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which tom llamas interviewed earlier in this hour. do you have a sense of when more divers will be able to get into the water to try to locate these bodys? >> i believe we're deploying more divers very soon. i believe that we are undergoing some additional assets that are coming in from the region to assist with the diving efforts, but to my knowledge, there's no confirmed time line. >> have you been in touch with any of the families? has anybody in local government been in touch with the families about their next steps? >> yes, ma'am, so mayor scott and governor moore have been in touch with the families given that i'm a local representative. i've been in touch with philanthropic organizations and some of the community associations in order for them to surround these families. i've also taken the lead being in contact with other council members where these family and victims are living throughout the city. so we are surrounding them as much as possible with resources, with dedication, and with
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heartfelt love. >> it's just so difficult and such an awful time for those families. obviously it's a difficult time for the city of baltimore and the northeast corridor and shipping, et cetera, but it is a truly awful time for the families who lost their loved ones. thank you so much for joining us. we do appreciate it. >> thank you, katy. and coming up next, the president agreed with protesters interrupting his event yesterday. what they said and how he responded. plus, what the u.s. is telling the family of evan gershkovich about its effort to get "the wall street journal" reporter out of russian detainment. breathing claritin clear is like... is he? claritin clear? yeah.
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velsipity. help calm the chaos of uc. protesters interrupted president biden yesterday during his speech on health care in north carolina shouting questions about the humanitarian conditions in gaza. instead of ignoring them or moving on, the president responded, and here is what he said. >> what about the health care in gaza? >> everybody deserves health care. they have a point. we need to get a lot more care into gaza. [ cheers and applause ] >> got a big cheer for that. quote, they have a point, so what is the u.s. doing about it? israeli officials left the pentagon yesterday without an agreement on how israel should take on hamas in rafah and without a plan on addressing the dire humanitarian need. nbc's international correspondent raf sanchez has the latest.
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>> reporter: diplomatic tensions between israel and the united states continue to simmer after the israeli defense minister left washington without an agreement on the path forward in the city of rafah in southern gaza. israel says mounting a large-scale ground offensive into rafah is the only way to destroy remaining hamas units hiding in the city. the biden administration says any large scale ground offensive would be a disaster leading to massive loss of civilian life and disrupting the flow of humanitarian aid into gaza. now, rafah was supposed to be the subject of in-depth discussions between the two sides in washington this week, but the subject of in depth discussions between the two sides in washington this week. but prime minister benjamin netanyahu canceling a trip by senior israeli officials in protest at the u.s. decision to allow a security council resolution to pass at the united
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the summer olympics in paris is almost upon us. the games get under way at the end of july, but the security planning is already well in the works. especially in the wake of the isis attack on a moscow concert hall last week. our very own keir simmons got an exclusive look behind the scenes at everything that's being done to prepare.
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>> reporter: when the spectacular olympic opening ceremony gets under way on the seine this summer, this may be the best seat in paris. nbc news was given exclusive access into the operation to keep athletes and spectators safe. including from the air. it is a bird's-eye view of an unprecedented open olympics in the heart of this beloved city. >> we're over the river seine right now. >> reporter: under the eiffel tower, there will be beach volleyball as world famous landmarks become sports venues, like fencing and tae kwon do at the grand palace and archery. the heart of paris hosting so many olympic events, officials say the security operation will itself make history. >> there will be 45,000 security personnel across paris. including these guys. >> reporter: the helicopter unit
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of the military police say they are able to reach anywhere in paris, anytime. >> we can take off, it is five minutes, 24 hours, and we're able to offer two to three helicopters whenever it is needed. >> reporter: ahead of the opening ceremony with 10,000 athletes and 300,000 spectators, officials say they'll search and secure every neighboring rooftop and on one of those rooftops, the antidrone squad. they liaise with forces like the nypd, using a radar gun to neutralize illegal drones. this week, france raising its security alert level, following the moscow terror attack. but protecting the paris olympic games has been years in the planning. >> we continue to defend the values of our country, and to welcome the world. >> reporter: on the front line too, 4 1/2-year-old praxis.
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the belgian shepherd trained to search and attack if there is a threat. he's a beautiful dog. so will he maybe get a chance to watch some olympic sports? we'll be working, he says. >> 360 around the village. >> reporter: over the olympic stadium, the helicopter team promises we won't see them, but they'll have eyes everywhere. in the city of light. >> so that people who are coming in to paris can feel safe. >> i hope it is very secure. i also hope we do a thousand more stories with french accents. that's going to do it for me this hour. tune into "andrea mitchell reports" at noon for her interview with janet yellen. first up, jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now.

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