weighs in shortly. widdecombe weighs in shortly. we've got tomorrow's front pages on the way . and our crown a new on the way. and our crown a new greatest britain and union jackass before the night is out. this is dan wootton. tonight with me, mark dolan. let's go . with me, mark dolan. let's go. it's been such a treat having your company over the last couple of years. thanks for having me. of course i'm back for mark dolan tonight tomorrow at nine and dan wootton is back from his holiday abroad on monday. let me tell you, he's raring to get going after a much deserved break with his family. so lots to get through that digest is on its way. you won't want to miss it. i'm not pulling my punches. but first, the headunes my punches. but first, the headlines with the very excellent rory smith . excellent rory smith. >> thank you very much, mark.

our top story, the prime minister has set out pay increases for millions of public sector workers. police and prison officers will receive an increase of 7, while teachers . increase of 7, while teachers. will get 6.5. teachers unions say the new pay recommendations will allow them to call off strike action. rishi sunak warns there will be no more negotiating. chancellor jeremy hunt has ruled out increasing taxes or borrowing to fund the pay taxes or borrowing to fund the pay rises . pay rises. >> we want to pay them fairly, which is why we've taken the decision to accept the independent pay review body recommendations . but at the same recommendations. but at the same time, the reason that many of them are angry, the reason that we've had strikes, is because they've seen their take home pay eroded by inflation. and it's vital that we don't do anything in accepting these awards that fuels inflation and means we're having the same disputes this time next year. having the same disputes this time next year . the meanwhile, time next year. the meanwhile,

junior doctors will continue striking tomorrow as the 6% offer to the british medical association falls. >> well below the 35% rise the union is calling for. it's part of a five day walkout in what's being described as the longest in the history of the nhs. being described as the longest in the history of the nhs . the in the history of the nhs. the government has been given the go ahead to take a legal battle overits ahead to take a legal battle over its rwanda deportees policy to the supreme court. over its rwanda deportees policy to the supreme court . the prime to the supreme court. the prime minister had said he funded mentally disagreed with the court of appeal's ruling. the deal unlawful. home deal was unlawful. home secretary suella braverman has been battling to get the policy off the ground after it was previously blocked by a judges mental health charity . mind says mental health charity. mind says people like huw edwards experiencing serious mental health problems should be given the space to receive treatment . the space to receive treatment. eight questions have been raised regarding the sun newspaper's conduct act, as well as the bbc's response to the allegations that mr edwards paid

allegations that mr edwards paid a young person for sexually explicit images. the corporation's director general will be questioned in parliament next week on how the story was handled . the met police has handled. the met police has found no evidence of criminality . and the coronation robes worn by the king and queen will be featured as part of the summer display at buckingham palace. king charles and queen camilla have already viewed the exhibition ahead of the official opening tomorrow. the public will have the opportunity to see the robes up close in the palace ballroom, where secret rehearsals for the royal family were held ahead of the coronation. that special event will last until september. coronation. that special event will last until september . tv will last until september. tv online dup plus radio and on tunein. this is gb news nato. back to . back to. mark

so obe. >> am i missing something here? reports that bbc star huw edwards is in hospital and receiving treatment for mental health issues. are deeply concerning and we wish him a speedy recovery. and i relish him giving his side of the story. but the usual suspect woke commentators who can always be relied upon to pick the wrong side of any argument seem to be rallying behind the beleaguered star who, let's not forget , is star who, let's not forget, is now subject to seven serious allegation sessions, which hitherto have not been deemed illegal by the police , but most illegal by the police, but most of which, if proven true, would lead to his certain suspension, if not sacking . jon sopel, the if not sacking. jon sopel, the ex—bbc presenter and co—host of the hit podcast the newsagents. the preferred habitat of ex—bbc lefties has gone into bat for edwards, dismissing these serious allegations as evidence of a complicated private life, and he's worried about the motivations of the sun newspaper. why are these

journalists so keen to obstruct the work of others in their profession? i hope it's not politics here is sopel, who i do admire as a broadcaster for doing the rounds. earlier today i >> -- >> and so you're thinking, well, what is this all been about? and it has exacted a terrible toll on him as a result of the reporting. as a report. i would i would also say that i think some of my colleagues in bbc news need to look at themselves i >>i -- >> i think it would be a crying shame if this is the last we see of huw edwards on television, even when the allegations have turned out to be not that much. >> i think there are a number of people all in the tabloid press and dare i say it in bbc news, who need give themselves a who need to give themselves a good hard look in the mirror. >> do these people live in a parallel universe? what is this all been about? allegations that amount to not that much , which amount to not that much, which this is wilful blindness and selective morality from the be kind crowd who specialise in

double standards if it was a tory mp game over. now in that clip he says allegations that amounted to not that much, not that much . the claim that the that much. the claim that the face of bbc news, the man who fronted the queens funeral and the king's coronation paid a youngster decades younger than him, 35 grand for images. a youngster whose parents claim is addicted to drugs and worry that they'll kill them . allegations they'll kill them. allegations that amount to not that much. how can an excellent and experienced journalist like sopel not be curious how this young alleged victim, who has denied the story, is managing to pay denied the story, is managing to pay for a top firm of london lawyers? it's not coming out of their pocket money, is it? look, all of this could turn out to be all of this could turn out to be a non—event and edwards is eventually back on telly. happy days. i've always thought he was great, but ultimately sopel and others risk being seen to cast doubt over the testimony of concerned parents and seem to

dismiss the fact that the bbc itself have published their own egregious set of allegations in relation to the star. according to the beeb's own reporting , one to the beeb's own reporting, one of the youngsters alleges they were put under pressure to meet up were put under pressure to meet up when the young person hinted onune up when the young person hinted online they might name the presenter. they claim they were sent abusive. sps lviv filled messages . the young person said messages. the young person said they'd been scared by the power they'd been scared by the power the presenter held , and they the presenter held, and they said the threats made in the messages which have been seen and verified by bbc news, had frightened them and they remain so scared. scene and verified by the bbc. frightened and scared . the bbc. frightened and scared. so much for allegations that amount to not that much . it goes amount to not that much. it goes on the growing tally of alleged victims is now seven, with former colleagues at the beeb complaining about inappropriate behaviour, a power imbalance and flirty or creepy texts from the star not reported by the super

soaraway sun folks who these commentators would clearly love to see the back of, but by the bbc 6:00 news which last time i checked, wasn't an offshoot of the gutter press or owned by rupert murdoch. check this out from the ex editor of the sun, david yelland, who has clearly been on quite the political journey since he left the paper. he tweeted, today is not the end for hugh. it is the beginning with bizarre love, heart emoji . with bizarre love, heart emoji. they've all been at it. alan rusbridger, a man famous for decimating the circulation of the once great guardian newspaper . you're in the tank newspaper. you're in the tank for edwards. before he was even named with the following dismissive tweet, which in my view, gaslights the presenter's alleged victims . take a look at alleged victims. take a look at this, he said famous person uses dating app linked up with an adult. nothing comes of it. they never meet. the adult threatens to write about it online. famous person is very angry lead item on bbc news . well i think it's

on bbc news. well i think it's heroic that the beeb has reported its own crisis in such an impartial way and it raises their esteem in my eyes for bbc journalists, including those on newsnight yesterday, have been mightily brave and it puts paid to the idea that this is some kind of agenda by the sun newspaper. we wish huw edwards well and pray for a speedy recovery. and he has the right to fully defend himself . but to fully defend himself. but what we're seeing right now is the pompous woke swilling, establishment media elite are closing ranks and protecting their own, as they always do . their own, as they always do. but the alleged victims, seven and counting, must have a voice to. let's get reaction from my superstar panel, daily telegraph columnist allison pearson, conservative peer in waiting shaun bailey. can we just call you lord shaun bailey? i think so. we know it's happening. you look like a lord tonight. very smart. also brand new to dan wootton tonight, social commentator joanna jarjue.

joanna, great to see you. welcome to the show. your reaction to the woke left the likes of jon sopel appear whining about huw edwards and not giving a voice to the alleged victims as well. >> i would probably be part of the woke left to be completely honest. let's just get that disclaimer out there. but i think that it's unwise for john to make statements this early on in the game. and i think that initially, obviously it's been said no said that there was no illegality, which is fine , but illegality, which is fine, but really has opened a of really this has opened a can of worms had more people worms and we've had more people come forward, including also staff within the bbc. so it could be that, you know, huw edwards is completely exonerated when it comes to whether it's illegal or not. but also now it's actually completely different conversation. it's about workplace conduct . and if about workplace conduct. and if it was just that there was just this one individual who had made whose parents had made complaints to the bbc, and then also to the sun. and it ended there. and, you know, nothing else to speak of it, then fine.

but actually what this has done is opened up the conversation to other things and actually, if it was if that was the case, sorry, i would say fine. huw edwards, you know , go back to your job. you know, go back to yourjob. that's your personal life. and in case of phillip schofield in the case of phillip schofield , maybe unwise but not , maybe it was unwise but not illegal. so, fine, get on with your life. but in this case, now, you could potentially have a echr issue, which is actually could potentially be a sackable offence . so kind of say offence. so to kind of say nothing to see here, we kind of have to wait. and i don't blame him for defending his friend and saying , look, maybe this isn't saying, look, maybe this isn't his character. he doesn't deserve some of the deserve maybe some of the treatment that he's received. fine but to say nothing to see here whatsoever when the story is still developing , i think is is still developing, i think is unwise at stage . unwise at this stage. >> indeed, alison, these commentators have chosen a strange hill to die on, haven't they, given the fact that there are seven allegations still in play? >> well, i don't even i don't even agree with joanna. i think i think original allegation i think the original allegation is absolutely dropping . this is absolutely jaw dropping. this is absolutely jaw dropping. this

is absolutely jaw dropping. this is a tv icon delivering the news night after night to millions of people who are deeply shocked by these allegations , ones never these allegations, ones never mind that what the allegations thatis mind that what the allegations that is found to be not illegal. if, as you said, mark, if there was a tory cabinet minister who was a tory cabinet minister who was found to be spending tens of thousands of pounds trying to procure from a young person who is allegedly addicted to crack cocaine , who is sending them cocaine, who is sending them pictures, what would be the reaction of the jon sopel and the andrew marr's disgusting assault on vulnerable young person abuse of power? you can just imagine it, can't you? they would be baying for blood, they would be baying for blood, they would be baying for blood, they would be calling the young person the vulnerable person. what about their mental health issues? we're hearing a lot about hugh edwards's mental health issues. what about the mental health issues of the young person whose mother is so frightened about what's happening to them that she

contacted the bbc and for eight weeks they ignored her complaint . so only then did she go to the sun. i think it's absolutely disgusting. and i come from the same town in west wales as huw edwards. and believe you me , the edwards. and believe you me, the ordinary viewers living in llanelli think what he has done is appalling, disgusting . it is is appalling, disgusting. it is not. i really am lost for words. of course. outrage of course. >> and alison, you know the libel laws as well as i do. of course, these are all allegations at the moment. >> but if it's proven but even if one of them is proven to be true, he's out of a job, isn't he? i don't think he'll ever be on the television again. and i certainly that all many of certainly know that all many of my family, my circle, my friends in wales, he was the ultimate welshman. absolutely adored welshman. they absolutely adored him. revered. and think him. he was revered. and i think what he has done, what is what he has done, what he is alleged to have done, is a total betrayal of his own family. the people implied in this story are younger than his own five children, worth stressing , of

children, worth stressing, of course, sean, that the youngster involved in the first allegation denies it , involved in the first allegation denies it, says it's rubbish, but through expense employed london lawyers, we haven't quite got to the bottom of how they're being paid for. >> but i think that making this so political, making it a culture war, making it left versus right already attacking the sun newspaper, even though the sun newspaper, even though the beeb are reporting this as well , is the beeb are reporting this as well, is going to bite. jon sopel and his mates on the bum. look the first thing to say is that these are allegations and i believe in innocent until proven guilty. >> but what he will find is the bar for guilty very low bar for guilty is very, very low in arena of public affairs. in the arena of public affairs. so instance my friend who so for instance my friend who i spoke to earlier, he said, what would they have done if this was clarkson? what would have been the then? what would we the response then? what would we have how have been saying? and that's how people he said some people i mean, he said some hurty about markle hurty words about meghan markle and almost lost his job. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> so allegations are >> so if these allegations are even should be the even half true, it should be the end of him. and i say this as well, it may not illegal, but end of him. and i say this as well,the nay not illegal, but end of him. and i say this as well,the publict illegal, but end of him. and i say this as well,the public willillegal, but end of him. and i say this as well,the public will seejal, but end of him. and i say this as well,the public will see it., but end of him. and i say this as well,the public will see it as ut immoral.

>> i think you'll agree we're travelling business class with my allison my panel tonight. allison pearson shaun and joanna pearson shaun bailey and joanna jarjue, and they'll back jarjue, and they'll be back shortly. up , as their shortly. but coming up, as their british bashing bore fest of a netflix reality show is completely snubbed by the emmys, have the sussexes sensationally failed hollywood ? we'll failed in hollywood? we'll discuss that with the tropper dropper, i should say, of a royal truth. bombs. angela levin very shortly. but next in the clash, do we have a right to know about the behaviour of bbc stars ex—mp harvey proctor and former beeb producer join stars ex—mp harvey proctor and former beeb producerjoin me live. us know you think live. let us know what you think at market gbnews.com or de—man. gb news dot com. tweet us at gb news and do vote in the poll. lots to come. you won't want to miss a second.

news. >> the people's channel. britain's news . >> the people's channel. britain's news. channel >> angela levin and ann widdecombe coming up. but shortly , we're also going to shortly, we're also going to debate quite an interesting story. the government are doubung story. the government are doubling down on their stop the boats strategy and the rwanda plan. all of that to come. but first, the clash . and as an first, the clash. and as an extended arm of the civil service, the bbc is paid for by you and i, as are the wages of bbc staffers. but in the last 24 hours, since huw edwards was sensationally named, a debate has raged over whether the pubuc has raged over whether the public should be told about the private lives of the beeb's top presenters. indeed do we have a right to know about the

behaviour of our biggest stars? let me know your thoughts . mark let me know your thoughts. mark at gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news and do vote in the poll. the results are coming, but to debate this, i'm delighted to welcome former bbc producer john mayer and the former conservative mp harvey proctor, whose own life was ruined and after false claims were made against him. great to have both of you with me . mr mayer, of you with me. mr mayer, welcome to the program . do you welcome to the program. do you think the public, my viewers and listeners have a right to know about the behaviour here of bbc talent ? yes, absolutely . talent? yes, absolutely. >> absolutely. the licence payers money, they put themselves in front of a camera. you know, they have a private life. look, i used to work on nationwide, remember? nationwide great boffin. you frank boffin. >> you broadcasters . yeah. >> you broadcasters. yeah. >> you broadcasters. yeah. >> well, there we are. frank came a cropper, didn't he? over little girls and cocaine. and then hugh scully was once with him in the savoy and he was getting very drunk and i said, hugh, you shouldn't be doing this. a face. you

this. you've got a face. you know, this is silly. so he had another drink. now, i mean, look, edwards has invaded look, huw edwards has invaded his own privacy , or rather, his his own privacy, or rather, his wife has. so what's the problem ? he it's out there. ? you know, he it's out there. everybody knew about it. so so, you know, why keep it secret? i neven you know, why keep it secret? i never, never understood that. everybody knew. according to the daily mail, i in 3 people in the country knows they did a scientific poll of some of their reporters. but the other question and i'm sorry to be woke is did the sun get it right ? my feeling is, no, they didn't . you know, they're rowing about like hell now, aren't they? you know, they they rush out of the story. do they have any facts? where are the bank statements? you know, where are the facts? and how much is talktv paying that the family tonight to appean that the family tonight to appear, the mother and the stepfather , they're appearing stepfather, they're appearing apparently tens of thousands apparently for tens of thousands of pounds. well well , well, what of pounds. well well, well, what a surprise. you know, i'm old enough to remember shannon matthews . maybe as well. matthews. maybe you are as well. yeah. mark you know, shannon matthews disappeared. remember,

he because her he was kidnapped because her mother wanted the money. she wanted £50,000 from sun. wanted £50,000 from the sun. and, know what? she was and, you know what? she was found somebody's attic three found in somebody's attic three weeks later. it was a relative. so, yeah, look, privacy , just so, yeah, look, privacy, just remember , huw edwards, his wife, remember, huw edwards, his wife, has invaded their privacy. so what's the problem ? what's the problem? >> from a fair point . and let me >> from a fair point. and let me just say that i'm not aware of the arrangements by which talktv have into viewed the parents of the alleged victim. what i can confirm is that it they were not paid for their initial interview with the sun newspaper and when the sun ran those first allegations in the guardian, mark and i believe everything i read in the guardian, i understand. i understand that that that figure has been reported. so take i'll reported. john so i'll take i'll take word on that one. take your word on that one. harvey proctor , do the public harvey proctor, do the public have a right to know about the behaviour publicly funded behaviour of publicly funded celebrities . celebrities. >> first of all, i should say good evening to you both .

good evening to you both. >> thank you for inviting me onto your program this evening . onto your program this evening. the second thing i should say is that i'm not in the united kingdom. i'm in spain, and i'm trying to follow the debate . but trying to follow the debate. but sometimes i lose some of your words. so i apologise if i don't follow it. exactly. precisely. but i hope you're hearing me . i but i hope you're hearing me. i think we could probably rationally divide the argument into two parts criminal morality and morality . into two parts criminal morality and morality. obe now, until into two parts criminal morality and morality . obe now, until the and morality. obe now, until the police statement saying there was no criminality involved , was no criminality involved, large chunks of the media for lack of evidence and lack of clarity, were trying to oust mr edwards because they thought he may have committed a crime . time may have committed a crime. time the police have now confirmed those allegations against him of a criminal nature for some coming through the bbc and

certainly investigated by the bbc are are null and void . and bbc are are null and void. and so he is a victim , as i was of so he is a victim, as i was of false allegations . and i know false allegations. and i know the consequences eases the pain and the hurt that he , his family and the hurt that he, his family and the hurt that he, his family and his children will be going through. i quite understand there are other people involved in this story and they, too, may well be suffering as a result of what has occurred. and what has beenin what has occurred. and what has been in the media. and i'm sorry about that , too. i'm even handed about that, too. i'm even handed in my sympathy for all those wrapped up in this particular matter . but the first wrapped up in this particular matter. but the first thing on false allegations is i'm pleased in a way that that other presenters at the bbc have come to accept that just as they were

falsely accused on social media, ordinary people can be accused of things that are not true. there are people in prison now who are there because they've been falsely abused, accused . i been falsely abused, accused. i think i am talking about ordinary people. not so much about vips . this is the basis about vips. this is the basis upon which we're talking, he is a vip to i a certain extent, was in the public eye, but let's not forget the false allegations and the criminality side of things affect a lot of people and people should be very alert to false allegations. now, you may want to go on to the morality side of things, and i'm quite happy to comment on that in due coui'se. >> course. >> of course. well, harvey, i wish i wish we had longer. >> john john mauger, back to you i >> -- >> these are all allegations. nothing has been proved . you nothing has been proved. you know, this this is this is all

tittle tattle from the sun picked up by the bbc and picked up effectively very journalistically tittle tattle. nothing been proved. tittle nothing has been proved. tittle tattle testimony is to worry parents about about their alleged child addicted to crack cocaine , funded allegedly by the cocaine, funded allegedly by the face of bbc news tittle tattle pulled the other one. >> lots and lots of lots of allegedly in there where are the bank statements? >> where are the bank statements? very simple. where are the bank statements? what the an affidavit the sun has got is an affidavit from the two parents. know , from the two parents. you know, i could an affidavit i could write an affidavit saying, know, x is saying, you know, that mr x is a it doesn't mean it's true . i it doesn't mean it's true. i mean, come on, you know, the sun flagged it up. the sun is rolling back like hell. they've run out, run out of evidence now. so we let's look at the sun rather than the bbc. >> the sun have passed. >> the sun have passed. >> they say their evidence to the bbc and the bbc have been running this story as well. john, let's not forget, and they have verified , they have have verified, they have verified an exchange via text

between the alleged victim and the bbc star. that's not the sun. that's not rupert murdoch . sun. that's not rupert murdoch. that's not trying to bring down the bbc. that's the bbc itself reporting these serious allegations, which you call where is the tittle tattle ? where is the tittle tattle? >> where is the proof ? >> where is the proof? >> where is the proof? >> well, john don't kill cash, the greatest respect we see. >> you don't believe the bbc or the bbc lying about themselves. >> the bbc news has been superb on this story. >> without fear or favour. they've investigated their own man. right? i can see nothing wrong with them. bbc management. well that's another question. but bbc news have been absolutely superb. maybe they've gone a bit over the top. which is which is what jon sopel is what? which is what jon sopel is what? which is what jon sopel is saying. know john is saying. but you know john sopel would wouldn't sopel would say that wouldn't he. thing remember if he. but thing to remember if you're presenter is you you're a presenter is if you become the then why is become the story then why is that ? you shouldn't be the story that? you shouldn't be the story you , you're a vessel, you're not you, you're a vessel, you're not the story . the story. >> john i've only got a couple of seconds left. it's been delightful to have both of you on the show. just very on the show. can i just very briefly ask you, do you think

that should be held to that bbc stars should be held to a higher standard than others? >> . if you ask for >> absolutely. if you ask for the public to trust you, then you must show a reason for them to you. to trust you. >> harvey proctor, thank you so much joining your much for joining us from your trip spain. we'd love to trip to spain. and we'd love to have had longer. the clock is against conservative against us. former conservative mp proctor, whose own mp harvey proctor, whose own life ruined after false life was ruined after false allegations were made against him and former top bbc producer john mayer. what a fascinating debate . what do you think? mark debate. what do you think? mark gb dot do have gb news dot com. do we have a right to know about the behaviour of bbc stars? noel has messaged in? of course we pay a fee to watch a channel that's free elsewhere . we deserve to free elsewhere. we deserve to know what our money is purchasing green . geyer says . purchasing green. geyer says. the charity i work for expects me to behave in a moral way inside and outside of work. why should people who are in high paid jobs, paid for by licence fee payers be any different? carole says they know they have a right to privacy like everyone else, but if we find out they're

not how they present themselves to be, have the right to to be, we have the right to judge. well, your verdict is in 68% agree that we do have a right to know. and 32% say we do not. angela levin, the dropper of royal truth bombs has the latest on a bombshell hollywood snub for harry and meghan. you won't believe it. i'll tell you , the halo has slipped, folks. or it the crown? first, the or is it the crown? first, the weather, a brighter outlook with boxt solar >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news good evening. >> my name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by the met office . so it's been by the met office. so it's been a slightly less unsettled day through but things are through thursday, but things are becoming more unsettled as we go towards friday with this area of low pressure pushing up towards the uk as we go through tonight and into friday. so looking at the detail for this evening, then some clear spells for eastern areas. at first, but

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start of the new week with temperatures at or below average , temperatures at or below average a , temperatures at or below average , a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> coming up, former tory minister ann widdecombe gives her explosive analysis on today's public sector pay rise announcement . they are getting announcement. they are getting their 6. is the pm rolling over to the unions ? who runs britain? to the unions? who runs britain? rishi sunak or the union barons? i'll be asking ann widdecombe, but next, harry and meghan's sordid netflix documentary has been snubbed for a gong at the prestigious emmy awards. so is it game over for harry and meghan in hollywood . i'll meghan in hollywood. i'll discuss that with the brilliant angela levin. she's .

the people's channel. i'll tom bower and kelvin mackenzie to come on this exploding media story around huw edwards >> but it's time now for royal author and prince harry's biographer, angela levin. and just when things seem to be looking up for the runaway royals with a mooted emmy nomination in normal business has resumed . and the sussexes has resumed. and the sussexes netflix borefest exposing the grubby details of their row with the firm has been completely snubbed for a gong at the prestigious ceremony. it is the latest in a list of huge snubs for the couple, not least getting dumped from their £20

million spot by contract at and being called grifters, no less by a furious boss at the streaming giant. so angela, there's even a question mark over for the netflix deal. has the halo slipped for the royal couple in hollywood ? couple in hollywood? >> yes, i think it absolutely has. >> people have suddenly seen through some of the tricks they've behaved . and yes , very they've behaved. and yes, very much so. the interesting thing is that meghan applied to be a judge on the emmys , which is judge on the emmys, which is really funny because the only she would she would vote for would be her own document entry. but she didn't get away with that. but she didn't get away with that . and they've really snubbed that. and they've really snubbed her because not one person on the board and it's quite a large board actually . she mentioned board actually. she mentioned that it's gone nowhere and they have got a much secondary one with a hollywood thing which is streaming non—fiction. but of course, actually a lot of what

that documentary, harry and meghan was was fiction in i mean, they made it up and they lied and it was absolutely shocking. i watched all six hours of it. it was very boring. they moaned and groaned and they said things that were too hateful that to imagine actually about the royal family and how they behaved . and the classic they behaved. and the classic one which everybody remembers is the way she mimicked or mocked the way she mimicked or mocked the late queen elizabeth when she sort of put her arms out and bend down and harry looked absolutely shocked by it, but he didn't dare say anything. and i thought that really encapsulates how they are and how she control him. but to do that and put on a squeaky voice , you know, hello, squeaky voice, you know, hello, your majesty . it's all right me your majesty. it's all right me doing it to you . but i mean her doing it to you. but i mean her doing it to you. but i mean her doing it to you. but i mean her doing it like that when she was dying is absolutely unthinkable i >> -- >> do you think there's a plan?

because this is a major setback. and let's be honest, the podcast is gone. that was a flop, wasn't it? spare the book sold quite well, but i don't think he's got another one in him. i think he's run out of material. what is next for the couple? well, they haven't. >> harry hasn't run out of material. he's using that as a sort of bargaining piece. he said that he's got enough for a second book. >> do you believe that, angela? >> do you believe that, angela? >> yes, because i think he could say all sorts of things about security there. and things that he's heard a little row between king charles and maybe william . king charles and maybe william. you know, just all sorts of things like that that he could build up because he seems to have an extraordinary memory and all the negative things that he's put in spare. and i think this could be spare, too. and i think the royal family are quite concerned about that. but i think people have had enough of it and not just people who don't like the royal family or do like the royal family, but people who

just think that's not the way to deal with anybody's family. so i think that that won't go. but what's interesting is that their lives are complete mess and lives now are complete mess and every day something else comes up which criticises it before . up which criticises it before. you know, the pr new pr said that she's got to leave the sussex problem and actually do things herself and harry was going to africa to do things following his mother's footsteps. but that's now changed. yes today to meghan going with him . and they want to going with him. and they want to show how poor people can build homes and also she wants to help women to have babies, naturally. well, good heavens, she's got no experience of that except her own. to and also, you know, don't we know another prince who's been helping people get homes? william you know, this same copy lock that they do and she tries to impersonate diana from time to time as well,

doesn't she? well, the first time they met, she had diana's perfume on. and, of course, harry was just overwhelmed by that because he's a boy who loved cuddling up to his uncharitable person. >> would call that grooming. >> would call that grooming. >> yes . yes. >> yes. yes. >>- >> yes. yes. >> i never would, of course. and it certainly isn't. can we could we talk about harry? because we, my viewers and listeners, our viewers and listeners, we're sad about the situation and the bottom line is that he is the prodigal son. i don't know if he'll ever come back, but he just doesn't look happy. does he know ? know? >> well, it's very, very sad for me because spent 15 months me because i spent 15 months with and i got to know him with him and i got to know him very well. and i adored him. i thought he was terrific. he had so good qualities and he so many good qualities and he was very good with people who had damaged themselves. all that. and she's just squashed everything out of him . and i everything out of him. and i think he's very scared of her. and i think he doesn't know what to do. do you think he's scared of her? of course she's scared. >> how would that manifest itself? she's going

itself? i mean, she's not going to know, he's been in the to you know, he's been in the military. to military. she's not going to give him shiner, is she? give him a shiner, is she? >> it's very interesting, >> but it's very interesting, small she's small things like if she's coming out of a car somewhere, he from other he rushes out from the other side and comes around. they've got people around to got people all around there to do and he looks very, very do that. and he looks very, very tense. he's got to open the tense. so he's got to open the doon tense. so he's got to open the door. and if she goes somewhere and got quickly the and he's got to quickly open the door there with her or door or be there with her or step back, like if you watch, i mean , he's there more like mean, he's there more like a servant than he is an equal. >> and she has once or twice publicly refused a kiss from him, including famously on on the kiss cam at the super. >> yes. >> yes. >> that's pretty humiliating, isn't it? leaned in for a kiss and she sort of turned away. and then had to sort of pull a then he had to sort of pull a face make a joke about it. face to make a joke about it. >> that with charles polo playing. but he burned his bndges playing. but he burned his bridges by that point. yes but she also actually holds him so tightly with one hand and the arm with the other hand. so he can't move more than a few inches away from her. >> can we offer a counterbalance

to this and say that perhaps this is meghan bashing after all, he's a grown man. he's an aduu all, he's a grown man. he's an adult male. he's the guy that decided to leave the country , to decided to leave the country, to reject his family, to write the book about the country. the institution and his father and his brother. this is of harry's making arguably. his brother. this is of harry's making arguably . why should making arguably. why should meghan carry the can? >> i don't think she does carry the can, but he is a very vulnerable person. he doesn't have the same genes as william . have the same genes as william. and so he's very sensitive . he and so he's very sensitive. he doesn't have, you know, he you know, william is more pragmatic . like i don't mean that they come from separate to develop your comments about not having the same genes. >> no, ijust the same genes. >> no, i just meant that, you know, your brother might be. >> we're all different, aren't we? >> yes. >> yes. >> have i mean, let's be honest. i'll be honest if my brother is popular and good looking. >> so i do take your point. popular and good looking. >> lo i do take your point. popular and good looking. >> i don't take your point. popular and good looking. >> i don't mean/our point. popular and good looking. >> i don't mean anything:. popular and good looking. >> i don't mean anything other than that i'm not trying to say something under the carpet, but yes. they're very yes. and so they're very different in the way they

respond to and also, respond to things. and also, william's someone who's very william's got someone who's very stable, who brings out the best in him. and unfortunately , i in him. and unfortunately, i think meghan brings out the worst in him and that he he doesn't really know what he wants or who he is. but i think africa might be good, but i don't know if she if she goes there and then he's there with her all the time. um, i think he looks incredibly unhappy and he doesn't really know how to help himself anymore. >> now it's a tough story, isn't it? a tough situation. they've got lovely kids. and of course we wish them well. and i hope that things work out. that things eventually work out. but look great, does but it doesn't look great, does it? very briefly, a couple of seconds to go. how long do you give the marriage? >> well, i gave it two years, but it's on longer than but it's gone on longer than that. think if they that. but i think that if they do separately , dodi, it will do go separately, dodi, it will be very difficult to pull it back. be very difficult to pull it back . and i think she's cutting back. and i think she's cutting off areas of togetherness on her

plan . plan. >> angela, you break the internet every time you're on. no, for good reason. one of my favourite journalists. great to have you on the show. thank you so much. and of course, angela will be back next week when dan wootton returns. my thanks to prince biographer, prince harry's biographer, angela . coming up, as angela levin. coming up, as locals in langley fight to save their beloved hotel from becoming a hostel for migrants, are the westminster elite failing british communities? that's in the media buzz. but next, i'm widdecombe was a tory backbencherin next, i'm widdecombe was a tory backbencher in the age of the iron lady margaret thatcher. so what would thatcher have made of rishi surrender on rishi sunak's surrender on pubuc rishi sunak's surrender on public sector pay? anne joins me in just two minutes time.

get ready for some tom bower bombshells later in relation to this exploding media story

around hugh elle edwards. but it's around hugh elle edwards. but wsfime around hugh elle edwards. but it's time now for big willie style with former conservative minister, bestselling author and television personality ann widdecombe and rishi sunak has accepted the recommendations of an independent pay review board and proposed a 6% increase in pubuc and proposed a 6% increase in public sector workers pay, calling the offer a major breakthrough . so 6% for police breakthrough. so 6% for police officers , junior doctors and officers, junior doctors and teachers in england . and the teachers in england. and the prime minister warned unions now to do the right thing and accept the deal, which would bring an end to months of strike action. take a look at this . take a look at this. >> today's offer is final . there >> today's offer is final. there will be no more talks on pay. we will be no more talks on pay. we will not negotiate again on this year's settlements and no amount of strikes will change our decision on instead the settlement we've reached today gives us a fair way to end the strikes is a fair deal for workers and a fair deal for the british taxpayer . british taxpayer. >> i notice he's still got his

five priorities over his shoulder. i wonder whether his team were tempted to use some gaffer tape cover. a couple of them. but ann widdecombe, great to has rishi to see you again. has rishi sunak rolled over to the unions? here is he week . here is he week. >> well, i mean, the good points are, first of all, that it's below the rate of inflation. >> and for that, you know, it is a great mercy because if it had been above the rate of inflation, we would have just been stoking more inflation. so that much is terrific . and the that much is terrific. and the other good thing about it is that it other good thing about it is thatitis other good thing about it is that it is the product of an independent review , not just independent review, not just demands, but from the unions, which of course have demanded hugely excessive pay rises like 35% and nonsense of that sort . 35% and nonsense of that sort. so those are the good things about this. so having said that , now let me look at what is not so good. he cannot tell us where the money is coming from . he the money is coming from. he cannot tell us, you know, we had this stuff about, oh, well , you this stuff about, oh, well, you know, it'll have to be found from departmental budgets .

from departmental budgets. >> but i wonderjust how on earth he's going to raise that sort of sum of money. >> because if that's there to be cut , if there's that much fat >> because if that's there to be cut, if there's that much fat in the system , why haven't they got the system, why haven't they got it before ? rishi, what have you it before? rishi, what have you been doing ? and this does remind been doing? and this does remind me of going back to the 70s when the unions just went absolutely mad and demanded every last thing they were always on strike. >> they were on strike together and mrs. thatcher came along and simply said, enough . and of simply said, enough. and of course, what had happened there is that that ted heath had had an election in which he asked the country, who rules the government or the unions and the country returned a hung parliament. so their answer was, we don't know . five years later we don't know. five years later when they'd expect audience rampant union power. all the pubuc rampant union power. all the public wanted was for them to be brought under control . hence the brought under control. hence the big landslide for mrs. thatcher

and i think that that, you know , if rishi could say we're going to give them 6, this is the money that is going to pay for it. i think we'd be all interested, but i would take a bet with you. i would take a bet with you, mark. you'll borrow. they'll borrow in the end because they won't able to because they won't be able to find it anywhere else. >> has he been stronger than keir starmer would if he were in number it's sunak ultimately number 10? it's sunak ultimately the lesser of two evils in this regard . regard. >> you certainly the lesser of two evils because starmer wouldn't stand up to the unions at all. they are, after all, in many cases, paymaster of the labour party. so i mean , you labour party. so i mean, you know, they're not starmer wouldn't stand up to the unions . so if you want to say, is it the lesser of two evils? yes, but why have evil at all? you know, why not just simply go with what can be afforded at the present time ? that's that's the present time? that's that's the question . and i don't care. he question. and i don't care. he could be offering them, you know, anything as long as it

wasn't over inflation as long as he could tell us where it's coming from. this is the prime minister and the chancellor of the exchequer and they can't tell us where it's coming from, which means we can't afford it, which means we can't afford it, which means we can't afford it, which means trouble down the line. and anna, thrilled to have you on the show. >> we'll catch up this weekend. my to the brilliant ann my thanks to the brilliant ann widdecombe, former government minister, author and minister, bestselling author and television . coming television personality. coming up, as tim davie is called to face questions in parliament over his handling the huw over his handling of the huw edwards scandal, does the director need to carry director general need to carry the can? will be speaking to tom bower , live in the studio now. bower, live in the studio now. who is tom bower? well, he's a top biographer. he's written biographies about all the key figures, tony blair, figures, including tony blair, meghan and others. and meghan markle and others. and he'll be dropping some significant bombs about significant truth bombs about what hugh elle edwards will huw edwards ever reappear our edwards ever reappear on our screens? i'll be asking bower very shortly . but next, we bring very shortly. but next, we bring you latest from a spirited you the latest from a spirited protest in wales against another migrant hotel. but it's the home office negatively impacting our

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director general tim davie needs to resign . meanwhile, one man to resign. meanwhile, one man best qualified to analyse the sun newspaper's role in all of this is its legendary former edhon this is its legendary former editor, kelvin mackenzie. he'll explain why his old employer has called a reporting ceasefire in uncanceled. plus the snp's plans to legalise drugs have gone up in smoke at the hands of suella braverman. so was the home secretary right that decriminalisation would do untold damage to our society? or does she need to take a chill pill ? that's to come does she need to take a chill pill? that's to come in our media buzz . i pill? that's to come in our media buzz. i don't know pill? that's to come in our media buzz . i don't know what media buzz. i don't know what this is, but my kids do it. also, don't miss a dramatic altercation caught on video between an professional eu agitator , steve bray, and a agitator, steve bray, and a plucky gb news cameraman who has now been nominated in tonight's greatest britain and union. jack acas. tomorrow's newspaper front pages hot off the press in moments , too. but first, the moments, too. but first, the headunes moments, too. but first, the headlines with the very excellent rory smith .

excellent rory smith. >> thank you very much, mark. our top story tonight, the prime minister has set out pay increases for millions of public sector workers. police and prison officers will receive an increase of 7, while teachers will get 6.5, while teachers unions say the new pay recommendations will allow them to call off strike action. rishi sunak warns there will be no more negotiating . while more negotiating. while chancellor jeremy more negotiating. while chancellorjeremy hunt has ruled chancellor jeremy hunt has ruled out increasing taxes or borrowing to fund the pay rises, we want to pay them fairly, which is why we've taken the decision to accept the independent pay review body recommendation options. >> but at the same time , the >> but at the same time, the reason that many of them are angry ' reason that many of them are angry , the reason that we've had angry, the reason that we've had strikes, is because they've seen their take home pay eroded by inflation. it's vital that inflation. and it's vital that we don't do anything in accepting these awards that fuels inflation and means we're

having the same disputes this time next year. >> will junior doctors will continue striking tomorrow as the 6% offer to the british medical association falls well below the 35% rise the union is calling for. it's part of a five day walkout on what's being described as the longest in the history of the nhs , as the history of the nhs, as the government has been given the go ahead to take a legal battle overits ahead to take a legal battle over its rwanda deportation policy to the supreme court. the prime minister had said he fundamental disagreed with the court of appeal's ruling that deal was unlawful . home deal was unlawful. home secretary suella braverman has been battling to get the policy off the ground after it was previously blocked by appeal. judges mental health charity mind says people like huw edwards experiencing serious mental health problems should be given the space to receive treatment. questions have been

raised regarding the sun newspaper's conduct, as well as the bbc's response to the allegations that mr edwards paid allegations that mr edwards paid a young person for sexually explicit images . as the explicit images. as the corporation's director general will be questioned in parliament next week on how the story was handled . and the met police has handled. and the met police has found no evidence of criminality . and the coronation robes worn by the king and the queen will be featured as part of a summer display at buckingham palace. king charles and queen camilla have already viewed the exhibition. that's ahead of the official opening tomorrow, when the public will have the opportunity to see the robes up close in the palace ballroom . close in the palace ballroom. that's where secret rehearsals for the royal family were held ahead of the coronation. and the special event will last until september . tv online special event will last until september. tv online dab+ radio and on tunein . this is gb news. and on tunein. this is gb news. nato it's back to .

nato it's back to. mark >> thanks, rory. we'll see you in an hour. >> tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz. and let's kick off with the front pages . and we off with the front pages. and we start with the metro and a troubling story about a great footballer. england star's sleep pills, addiction dele alli former spurs star, of course, played for england very talented guy has talked about his issues around addiction to sleeping tablets. he's also opened up about his childhood sex abuse trauma. he's been through an awful lot, had a very, very hard early few years in his life, and he's been in rehab. he's been in therapy. and we wish him well. the i newspaper pay rises for1 million uk workers as number 10 tries to end the strikes, teachers back 6.5% in unprecedented joint statement ,

unprecedented joint statement, with ministers bringing a likely end to school strikes with 7% for police and prison officers and 5% plus £1,000 for armed forces . junior doctors forces. junior doctors immediately reject 6% plus £1,250 and vow new strikes . with £1,250 and vow new strikes. with inflation running at 8.7. nurses are furious that they agreed to 5% earlier in the summer. no doubt that row will rumble on. reacting to the big stories of the day, my superstar panel tonight daily telegraph columnist allison pearson , columnist allison pearson, conservative peer in waiting shaun bailey. i do hope he speaks to us once he's a lord and a brand new star on dan wootton tonight, social commentator joanna jarjue . wootton tonight, social commentatorjoanna jarjue . now, commentator joanna jarjue. now, as the boats keep arriving, it's easy to get lost in the numbers and statistics in relation to the channel migrant crisis without much thought of the societal impact on britain . but societal impact on britain. but in a revealing daily telegraph column, tonight's superstar panellist allison pearson has

detailed a community fight back against an asylum hotel taking over her welsh hometown of cranleigh . the once loved cranleigh. the once loved stradey park spa hotel made 95 staff members redundant . so home staff members redundant. so home office contractors could get to work converting it to look after migrants . protesters surrounded migrants. protesters surrounded the building and blocked off two main entrances as they valiantly tried to stop building works taking place . and in a win for taking place. and in a win for locals, the council has now ordered renovations to stop as it investigates a breach of the planning rules. this is the moment campaigners cheered as private security guards left the site with their tails between their legs . video . their legs. video. tonight the police and crime

commissioner for the area called on the home office to pause and review plans to send migrants to the hotel . and in another win the hotel. and in another win this afternoon , the government this afternoon, the government also got the green light to take its rwanda plan row to the supreme court after the court of appeal ruled it unlawful. so, alison pearson, people power in action on yeah, my own people . action on yeah, my own people. >> mark fancy let's i did think i should have practised that. yes honestly, tongue up at the roof of the mouth. yeah i'm very proud of them speak for yourself. >> we've all had a drink. >> we've all had a drink. >> this is a lovely hotel. well, a special treat place for people in the town. a place where people, you know, my mum would go for afternoon tea on a thursday and people go for anniversary dinners. so it's a very special place. and like so many over 500 hotels around the country now , it's being fitted country now, it's being fitted out at vast expense for asylum seekers forward slash illegal migrants. as you said, 95 members of staff have lost their

jobs and that would often be young people. >> school leavers, people come out of college who need a job. >> it's not a wealthy part of the country . we're not talking the country. we're not talking about hampstead or barnes here, mark. hard up. so for mark. it's quite hard up. so for those people it's going to be pretty, pretty bad. and we look at the broader picture . the at the broader picture. the government is spending some people might say wasting about £7 million a day on hotel accommodation for these people who've come illegally across the channel. wethersfield airfield in essex yesterday . took 1700 in essex yesterday. took 1700 young males, 1700 young males in an essex village. sean was saying earlier , they're not saying earlier, they're not going to stay, they're not going to stay on the camp for very long. and really shocking fact to week was that the to me this week was that the home is paying half £1 home office is paying half £1 million a day to keep 5000 hotel beds empty just in case there's a sudden influx of migrants. so this is millions of pounds a day, far more than we spend on

our own homeless or levelling up budget . so truly shocking. lots budget. so truly shocking. lots of communities, many of the poorest communities in the country having to bear the strain of people instantly who would save up all year to have a dinner at the hotel where men who haven't paid a single penny into our country will be put up for free. >> there you go. the real world consequences of these illegal migrant crossings. shaun bailey i >>i -- >> i think m >> i think there's two things. firstly, in the political firmament we're talking about is if it's abstract, it's numbers, it's 1000 here, if it's abstract, it's numbers, it's1000 here, it's if it's abstract, it's numbers, it's 1000 here, it's 2000 this day. but actually on the ground , it makes a real difference to people if you're that that people if you're from that that town and they take away 95, you know, earners from your town. it has an impact that and i think what the political firmament has to remember is this now will become an election issue. if this happening in 500 this is happening in 500 different places across the country, 500 places will country, those 500 places will talk to another 500 places. and i the political firmament i think the political firmament really something.

really needs to do something. the needs to the political class needs to think isn't abstract. think this isn't just abstract. this about the this isn't about just the millions pounds we're millions of pounds we're spending. it's also the spending. it's also about the impact the deeper impact it has. and the deeper thing well. the prime thing is this as well. the prime minister i think inadvertently the courts are going to make the prime look like a hero prime minister look like a hero because he he has doubled because he has he has doubled down his plan and he's been down on his plan and he's been obstructed by and i think obstructed by them. and i think a group of people think, a large group of people think, well, prime well, actually the prime minister do minister is trying to do something being something and he's being blocked. and then the third thing i'd say is, well, ultimately response this ultimately the response to this has to be international. so as well as trying to fulfil the rwanda plan, which has been altered many times by the lords, i've number of lords i've spoken to a number of lords who think they will support it now because been altered so now because it's been altered so drastically. actually next now because it's been altered so drastfor.ly. actually next now because it's been altered so drastfor.ly. lhasally next now because it's been altered so drastfor.ly. lhas ity next now because it's been altered so drastfor.ly. lhas it been next step for the has it been neutered? well that's a debate that's be had. but the that's yet to be had. but the next step for the for the pm and also for the home secretary is to international to have international conversations, not just with france as france but further afield as well. okay joanna, i mean, your reaction to the protests by these people, it impacts their town and they're losing a much loved public building. town and they're losing a much lowyeah,)lic building. town and they're losing a much lowyeah, iic building. town and they're losing a much

lowyeah, i mean ding. town and they're losing a much lowyeah, i mean ,ing. town and they're losing a much lowyeah, i mean , ig. town and they're losing a much lowyeah, i mean , i completely >> yeah, i mean, i completely sympathise with them. you know , sympathise with them. you know, if in their position as if i was in their position as well, wouldn't best well, i wouldn't be best pleased. but i also think that this is a government issue and i think that this is a government problem sure . so and problem for sure. so and obviously a lot of people are angered by migrants being in hotels , but realistically, hotels, but realistically, the solution for that would be to process migrants much quicker and have the home office actually do their job. but actually do their job. but actually have a theory that the government don't want that because whole stop the boats because the whole stop the boats narrative is the only thing that they've got left in terms of an election strategy. they're not going to run on the economy when you've interest rates you've got interest rates going up seconds, they're up every two seconds, they're not on house not going to run on house building sorry, can building rates. sorry, can i just finish? i want to ask you a question. can i just finish and ask you a question? okay. well, can just finish? and they're can i just finish? and they're literally clutching at straws. and when got a policy and when you've got a policy that know, is literally that you know, is literally teetering on the line of legality and even legality and you've even admitted that yourself, you're not sure whether it's going to be legal or not, would you be legal or not, why would you then be surprised that you have

to jump through hoop after hoop after and do after after hoop and do appeal after appeal to get it there and then when it fails or if it fails, what they're going say is, what they're going to say is, oh, it's the lefty lawyers. no, it's the law. the law is there to be interpreted. and the lawyers are doing their job. and i accept something is at i accept that something is at risk. i take point risk. yeah i take your point about the backlog, but surely the to stop the issue at the key is to stop the issue at source and stop those boats? source and to stop those boats? >> well, yeah, absolutely. >> well, yeah, absolutely. >> but also what what we've got a a lot of a lot of your a lot of a lot of a lot of your pals on the left don't want these policies. >> don't want rwanda >> they don't want rwanda because to because because i'm desperate to ask this question. >> you've said that >> sure. so you've said that it's government it's a government problem. i agree. you've said the agree. but you've said that the government a process, government have got a process, people quickly. yes what do people more quickly. yes what do they then do with those people? well the whole point well that's the whole point of processing where do processing them. so where do they example, you've they go? so for example, you've got agreement with got a returns agreement with albania, right? >> you actually >> if you were actually processing and i'm not processing people and i'm not i'm not pretending as if there isn't who are not isn't people who are not legitimate migrants are legitimate migrants that are coming these but coming on these boats, but you've people who are you've also got people who are

legitimate and don't safe legitimate and don't have safe routes to come to this country. that fact . right. so you're that is a fact. right. so you're going to get a mixed bunch within what's within there. but what's happening? your happening? i'm answering your question, what's happening question, sean. what's happening at is you're not at the moment is you're not processing them for about six months. you're putting them in hotels at taxpayers expense. you're taking resources away from these poor people in these communities is instead just communities is instead of just processing them. but you don't want to that, do you? want to do that, do you? >> actually think this is a genuine question? because our return rate very, very low. return rate is very, very low. do you actually think would do you actually think we would return anybody? do you actually think we would rethell,ybody? do you actually think we would rethell,ybyou've got if you've >> well, if you've got if you've sorted out a returns sorted things out like a returns agreement with albania, why agreement with albania, then why aren't certain aren't you putting certain things you've things to use that you've already put in? we are processing, process quickly processing, process them quickly and more generous and get them out more generous in granting in our asylum granting than other . other european countries. >> only 25% of asylum applications in france receive positive decisions significantly less than the 70% of cases accepted in the uk. we are. this isn't a sorry, alison. >> this isn't about how many we accept versus about how many.

no, it's about the people who are left in limbo in hotels that are left in limbo in hotels that are expensive. >> i only make the point because processing people is not the answer. >> so you leave them in hotels at our expense , but you'd have at our expense, but you'd have exactly the same thing. >> you'd process them and then they'd go back to the hotel. so i'm asking anybody who's against. yeah, you have against. yeah, because you have nowhere them. it's not nowhere to send them. it's not like and they like you process and they magically, you know, grow house. >> we have nowhere what i'm talking about in terms of processing is weeding out the people shouldn't be here, people who shouldn't be here, who illegally who actually have come illegally . ali, versus the people who genuinely need. that's a fair point. >> but process takes years home. >> but process takes years home. >> it doesn't take years. before, when we had a labour government, they used to process them quicker. didn't have them quicker. we didn't have hotels, so it doesn't matter. so you would that this is you would say that this is important, this is resources. >> you're saying would >> so you're saying you would send them home? >> people are >> the people who are illegitimate, illegitimate, out people coming from people like who are coming from albania, returns albania, we have a returns agreement reason. agreement for a reason. >> i'm just asking. okay. >> so i'm just asking. okay. >> so i'm just asking. okay. >> saying use it. fair enough. >> fair enough.

>> fair enough. >> there you well, we found >> there you go. well, we found peace broken out, look, peace has broken out, but look, it is a debate that will rage on. >> but coming up is suella braverman right to tear apart the to legalise the snp's proposals to legalise drugs warning it would untold the snp's proposals to legalise drugs wetoing it would untold the snp's proposals to legalise drugs weto ourt would untold the snp's proposals to legalise drugs weto our society. untold the snp's proposals to legalise drugs weto our society. panel damage to our society. my panel will debate shortly. but will debate that shortly. but next, bbc journalist of next, former bbc journalist of 26 bombshell biographer 26 years bombshell biographer tom joins me live in the tom bowerjoins me live in the studio. and we'll be talking huw edwards and the .

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people's. channel >> fleet street icon kelvin mackenzie shortly. >> but it's time now for former bbc journalist. for 26 years, the brilliant author and biographer tom bower. and moments after huw edwards was named as the presenter at the centre of a sex scandal storm at the beeb, director general tim davies sent a message to bbc staff saying this will no doubt be a difficult time for many after a challenging few days, i want to reassure you that our immediate concern is our duty of care to all involved. this remains a very complex set of circumstances as we've done throughout. our aim to throughout. our aim must be to navigate through with care navigate through this with care and consideration in line with bbc values. earlier today it was announced that davie will be questioned parliament questioned in parliament alongside chairwoman dame alongside acting chairwoman dame ellen close . stevens and policy ellen close. stevens and policy director claire sumner on the bbc's handling of the scandal. hughes wife vicky flint, confirmed yesterday that hugh was only made aware of the allegations on thursday of last

week and that the presenter is now in hospital after suffering from severe mental health issues. tom bower what a story. a crisis ipsis of the bbc's making and you're concerned that the bbc seems to be following the bbc seems to be following the sons approach to this story, potentially the sons agenda? >> absolutely , because i think >> absolutely, because i think what went wrong was , as we were what went wrong was, as we were discussing on tuesday, that tim davie, a coca cola salesman , is davie, a coca cola salesman, is actually the editor in chief of the bbc. >> he is the man in charge of its broadcast. and he completely failed to understand the ramifications of the bbc adopting the sons allegations that what huw edwards had done was illegal. now, the sun today is saying it doesn't matter if it's illegal or not, but that is not what they said on saturday and on monday. >> and the bbc, instead of saying we're standing back from the sun's agenda , we know huw the sun's agenda, we know huw edwards. we're going to talk to him. going to work it out. him. we're going to work it out. >> followed the agenda >> they just followed the agenda because wokes. they because they're wokes. they joined lynch what joined the lynch mob. and what really so annoyed about really makes me so annoyed about all is it just reveals all

all this is it just reveals all the fundamental weaknesses of the fundamental weaknesses of the which are very the bbc, which are a very inadequate director general, a very, very weak board of management and now acting chairman, chairwoman who actually knows nothing about broadcasting whatsoever for a board of governors who are completely inane because they know nothing about journalism and rural broadcast . sting and and rural broadcast. sting and the bbc is hitting the rocks, they don't realise it and people have lost trust in the bbc and thatis have lost trust in the bbc and that is what they've achieved. this over these last days because they have pursued huw edwards in a way, especially on last night's newsnight, where they adopted all of the sons agenda. but worse than that, they put up alan yentob as the man to answer on behalf of the bbc. and he just sat there quietly like a wallpaper because he had nothing to say. alan yentob doesn't understand news. he doesn't understand current affairs . he doesn't really affairs. he doesn't really understand politics. he's a celebrity film maker . and that's celebrity film maker. and that's the real problem. the bbc looks as if nobody's in charge because

nobody is in charge. and so we've got this terrible feeling at the moment of the puritans in the bbc. now digging more and more into what hugh huw edwards might have done. but the thing is, it was all legal. the police have said they haven't discovered any illegality. this is a man who admitted he was very depressed. did the bbc come and help him? no, they didn't. they abandoned him when it was clear what he had allegedly do. >> that they abandoned him? >> well, we do know because they should have then helped him . but >> well, we do know because they sh(was have then helped him . but >> well, we do know because they sh(was abandoned.elped him . but >> well, we do know because they sh(was abandoned. hised him . but >> well, we do know because they sh(was abandoned. his wifen . but >> well, we do know because they sh(was abandoned. his wife said ut he was abandoned. his wife said no called to say he's no one called to say he's depressed. but the key thing is we still don't know the evidence that the sun had. but worse than that, the bbc is now come out with allegations that why don't they show the evidence? they've got their own stories. they could redact, they could redact the sun, say they've handed over all their to the beeb, all their evidence to the beeb, and haven't got any. they and they haven't got any. they haven't anything haven't got anything more. >> if they i don't think >> if they had, i don't think that there are bank statement outs illustrate outs that illustrate and demonstrate that £35,000. i'm told never got from the

told the sun never got from the mother . mother. >> statements e statements i see. >> the bank statements i see. >> the bank statements i see. >> just repeated what she >> they just repeated what she told them. >> took >> they took her word for it. >> they took her word for it. >> exactly. and that's why they never edwards because never named huw edwards because reliable i think reliable reasons. but i think now they've got a libel problem. but what i think critical as well and all this that tim davie gave a rather inane rather unconvincing statement yesterday. the sun people haven't talked to whatsoever, having destroyed died huw edwards life. and career was there public interest in doing it that i think is debateable. and now now the bbc staff somehow are going out of control, chasing a puritan agenda, chasing like a lynch mob. huw edwards why and not producing evidence aren't the bbc trying to demonstrate that they want to mark their own homework properly, that it's the opposite of a cover up? >> that if there's a suggestion that a bbc star has behaved improperly, they will report it. it's the opposite of watergate . it's the opposite of watergate. it's the opposite of watergate. it's all out in the open. they're effectively self—flagellating and what about the fact that these allegations

still stand? surely any one of them would get huw edwards sacked the allegation that he broke lockdown rules. kay burley from sky. she was suspended for nine months for doing exactly that. >> well, you're right. but but we haven't seen the evidence. thatis we haven't seen the evidence. that is the point . it we haven't seen the evidence. that is the point. it is all we haven't seen the evidence. that is the point . it is all the that is the point. it is all the time. allegations >> well, the bbc say that they have confirmed that they verified a text message exchange between edwards and one of the alleged victims and that it was essentially the person at the heart of that, the alleged victim. victim felt afraid and they sensed the power of this celebrity. >> well, you know, there's a very simple way of communicating this on television. you redact the identity of the recipient of this alleged man and show the text. let the public decide . and text. let the public decide. and why haven't they done that? it's easy to redact it. let us see what in fact, whoever did and the fact that they don't show the fact that they don't show the evidence leads one to suspect all the time that this is a witch hunt or appallingly

poor journalism, bad leadership poorjournalism, bad leadership by dup editor in chief. not saying to the newsnight and all the other people, i just don't like the way you're doing it. and the reason that tim davie doesn't issue an order is because he doesn't know how to make programmes. he's not a journalist. he doesn't know how to present these stories. so in fact, people acting as fact, these people are acting as agents of their own . agents of their own. >> wokeism how does this play out ? out? >> does huw edwards get back on tv and does he sue a bunch of people? >> well, he doesn't get back on tv ever. that's the end of his career. and i think i'm not career. and that i think i'm not a great fan of huw edwards. i'm one of few people would one of the few people who would have alastair bruce on have watched alastair bruce on sky coronation sky during the coronation who was than huw was infinitely better than huw edwards. i think was edwards. i don't think he was a particularly convincing news anchon you particularly convincing news anchor. you know, he's a anchor. but, you know, he's a human being. was trusted by human being. he was trusted by the bbc. he was trusted by the editor in chief who didn't bother to him. and i think bother to call him. and i think hugh, fate now is a side hugh, his fate now is a side issue. unfortunately >> but why won't he appear on telly if he's so innocent as you? >> because i think he's to

discredit covid. think that discredit covid. i think that he doesn't. will. no one will doesn't. he will. no one will believe him when he reads the news. that's the whole point. the to that the credibility. and to that extent there public interest extent was there public interest in destroying his credibility ? i in destroying his credibility? i think we're going to have to see, because that's all it depends on the evidence which see, because that's all it depyproducedie evidence which see, because that's all it depyproduced what'sance which see, because that's all it depyproduced what's hee which see, because that's all it depyproduced what's he goingh has produced what's he going to do? >> mean, if he leaves the bbc, >> i mean, if he leaves the bbc, i have to work for lbc i mean, i have to work for lbc or something. >> you might have to come and work here, but tell you, work here, but i'll tell you, it's a full roster, a full roster. the is more roster. but the point is more than you in the end, than that, you know, in the end, what we're talking about is the biggest news corporation the biggest news corporation in the world. about the biggest news corporation in the worlcwhich about the biggest news corporation in the worlcwhich when about the biggest news corporation in the worlcwhich when i about the biggest news corporation in the worlcwhich when i wasout the biggest news corporation in the worlcwhich when i was theree biggest news corporation in the worlcwhich when i was there was bbc, which when i was there was the gold standard of terrific broadcasting to broadcasting now reduced to really a hovel, a pitiful corporation, a shell of a broadcaster , constantly losing broadcaster, constantly losing audience , constantly losing audience, constantly losing money. and that is, in the end, the responsibility of tim davie and all the people around him who all of them are too scared to come out and explain why they behaved the way they did . behaved the way they did. >> tom, you're going to have to

get off that fence. honestly >> it's this prevarication is irritate thing. >> okay? so you don't think he gets back on tv ? you think the gets back on tv? you think the bbc is pretty sort of damaged by this ? what about the sun? what this? what about the sun? what next for them ? next for them? >> well, can i just say i not on the fence, the bbc, because i spent 26 years there in its greatest years and saw its destruction. and was very sad destruction. and it was very sad to that happen. far as to watch that happen. as far as the sun is concerned, i think that they haven't proved why they launched such a huge attack last saturday because in the end they didn't get the boy, the man, the involved with huw edwards on side that is why they played it the way they did. and to that extent, to launch an attack, to destroy a man without having all the evidence which you could go to court with. i think raises questions about the sun's credit ability as well. >> tom, brilliant to have you on the show. thank you forjoining the show. thank you for joining us. been fascinating us. it's been a fascinating couple conversations over the couple of conversations over the last days. my thanks to you. last few days. my thanks to you. tom bower, top biographer, who

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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> folks . radio. >> folks. coming up in our cancelled fleet street icon kelvin mackenzie explains why the sun have called a ceasefire on the bbc's sex scandal row. and we'll be asking whether that's the right thing for the paper to have done. okay, folks , so kelvin is waiting in the wings . but let's return to wings. but let's return to tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz and more front pages have arrived . let's start with have arrived. let's start with the telegraph. doctors urged to give in on pay deal. teachers drop industrial action as pm puts up public sector pay. but bma stands firm and this is a story that will echo with allison pearson. covid will hurt education for years, says imf. well, let me tell you that in her columns for the telegraph

and in her brilliant podcast with liam halligan , um, what's with liam halligan, um, what's it called again? planet normal, that you were both voices of reason throughout the pandemic and you spent so many episodes talking about impact, the talking about the impact, the needless impact on children of covid measures and lockdowns . covid measures and lockdowns. another worrying headline before we get to the mail. china has penetrated all parts of the uk economy . mps warn the daily penetrated all parts of the uk economy. mps warn the daily mail now will doctors now end their callous strikes and bbc were already investigating huw edwards before for the story broke . okay, those are your broke. okay, those are your front pages now let's cover some big stories of the day with my superstar panel, the aforementioned daily telegraph columnist allison pearson , columnist allison pearson, conservative peer in waiting. shaun bailey, and brand new to dan wootton tonight, social commentator joanna jarjue. dan wootton tonight, social commentatorjoanna jarjue. now commentator joanna jarjue. now superwoman suella braverman has pred superwoman suella braverman has ripped up the snp's dangerous plan to legalise drugs during a fiery private meeting with scotland's justice secretary,

shirley—anne somerville. the snp's proposals include giving addicts substance ces and creating safe consent option rooms for them to get high by. but the home secretary has since ridiculed the plan, saying they would create untold damage to our neighbourhoods. what do we think about this? joanna well, i think about this? joanna well, i think the narrative obviously about drugs and what we're used to when we're talking about drugs is how dangerous they are. >> and that is absolutely correct. i personally think that drugs, alcohol is just as dangerous, if not more dangerous than drugs, for sure . and i than drugs, for sure. and i think that this this conversation really needs to be looked at. and i don't think that it's helpful to completely, you know , delegitimize a lot of you know, delegitimize a lot of the points that are being made and the cases that are being made for potential legalising drugs. and one of those is potentially safety. so obviously, it's in an unregulated , unregulated market unregulated, unregulated market at the moment. right. and a potential could be to make it so

that if it's legalised and that's maybe some drugs and not other drugs . like i said, it's other drugs. like i said, it's a complex issue that really needs to be looked at. but when you look at other places like vancouver in canada that have legalised drugs, they'll do things like give you a health referral card and with scotland, with other issues, for example, like knife crime , they've always like knife crime, they've always tried to use more of a public health approach when it comes to things like this. and when you compare it, for example, with knife crime to london, it was a lot more successful for them. so i definitely worth a i think it's definitely worth a conversation that. not conversation on that. not everything when it comes to things like drugs has to be automatic criminalise and harder on criminal sentencing, etcetera, etcetera, because that's not always is the approach. and for me personally, because, you know, sometimes i'm like, yeah, okay, we should maybe think about decriminalising completely and making it safer for people so that they're not getting back street drugs that are being, you know, god what. know, mixed with god knows what. and times i'm like,

and then other times i'm like, no, this is completely wrong. dog are so dangerous. so dog drugs are so dangerous. so maybe approach. but maybe a hybrid approach. but i don't that it's helpful to don't think that it's helpful to completely shut down the conversation you've got conversation when you've got people dying all the people who are dying all the time because of the quality of drugs that they're actually accessing. shaun bailey is a former london mayoral candidate i >> -- >> you've given this a lot of thought. what's your verdict? >> i also used to a drug >> i also used to be a drug worker as well. i worked for one of the biggest drug projects in all london. completely all of london. she's completely right. she's right. let's be clear. she's talking drugs, talking about class a drugs, which effectively if which are effectively poison if you international you take international comparisons. google, comparisons. paul coyte google, they for they were lauded for liberalising drugs. they're beginning regret that. beginning to hugely regret that. and step on it. if you look and back step on it. if you look at all the cities america, at all the cities in america, across and dc , etcetera, across la and dc, etcetera, where liberalised drugs, where they've liberalised drugs, it's social it's led to massive social problems . problems. >> san francisco is a disaster, but the key thing is this people talk about the crime that's dnven talk about the crime that's driven by drugs as drug dealers and they forget that it's drug users as well that do that very low level crime that over time builds up and that most people are affected by. >> and the idea that you'd

legalise you'd have legalise drugs and you'd have a regulated market is utter bunkum because your drug dealer will always able deliver always be able to deliver stronger cheaper than stronger drugs, cheaper than your legitimate sources. and therefore you all you're doing is growing the market for illegal drug use. and if anybody doubts that the amount of people who drugs is the important who use drugs is the important thing, alcohol . alcohol thing, look at alcohol. alcohol is the single most dangerous drug in the country by far. if you measure deaths, you you measure deaths, if you measure psychological outcomes , measure psychological outcomes, if domestic violence if you measure domestic violence and because it's easy to and why is because it's easy to get to and it's legal. so where we are now is effectively a hybnd we are now is effectively a hybrid approach. and we are a country . no, we're not perfect, country. no, we're not perfect, but probably the best in but we're probably the best in the world dealing it the world at dealing with it because class because when it's a class b drug, police try their best drug, the police try their best to people to a, you to direct young people to a, you know, to or to away from know, to rehab or to away from the drug. they don't just criminalise them immediately. and a class, a drug, and when it's a class, a drug, they it as should they deal with it as it should be with quite harshly. be dealt with quite harshly. >> well, alison, many would argue the current system isn't working, the working, that we're losing the war drugs. well i think this war on drugs. well i think this is a bit of a smokescreen from the snp in scotland.

>> the worst rate >> scotland has the worst rate of drugs deaths in europe. it's four times as many drug deaths as its nearest country in drugs deaths , which is norway four deaths, which is norway four times. so even nicola sturgeon admitted that the snp had taken their eye off the ball too much , focusing on independence, not not enough attention being paid to health solutions. and so on. like joanna, i go back and forth, i've got kids myself. mark there was a time when i in that terrible journalist way you do. and i wrote a thing, a very bold column saying, you know, cannabis must be decriminalised . and a couple of weeks later, two of my kids friendship groups had psychotic reaction to cannabis. and one of them ended up in a mental hospital for a long time . so that was me taught long time. so that was me taught that making these, you know, blase things, my instinct is i think joanna's right. i think sean's right. i think a hybrid approach , you know, just. but

approach, you know, just. but the whole idea of decriminalising everything, which i think is a is a sort of an attempt by this scotland and the snp to cover their own tracks for total failure, total failure on drugs policy in scotland . indeed. scotland. indeed. >> so. well, folks, the drugs don't work if you are struggling , contact your gp. there is always help out there. coming up, a dramatic altercation was caught on video between a professional eu agitator. you might know him. steve bray , might know him. steve bray, mister stop brexit and a plucky gb news cameraman. do either of them win today's greatest britain or union jackass? find out shortly. but next in uncanceled, more on the beeb scandal with the former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie .

it's time now for uncanceled . it's time now for uncanceled. where britain's top commentators speak out on controversial issues without the fear of the cancel culture sweeping the rest of the media. now the bbc's huw edwards was named by his wife as the man at the heart of these sex allegations yesterday as sex pic allegations yesterday as she released a statement on his behalf. it , she released a statement on his behalf. it, read one behalf. part of it, read one once well enough to do so . hugh once well enough to do so. hugh intends to respond to the stories that have been published. to be clear , hugh was published. to be clear, hugh was first that there were first told that there were allegations being made against him only last thursday . him only last thursday. meanwhile, the sun newspaper has called a ceasefire on its reporting of the scandal, all

whilst the bbc's own news arm continues to publish fresh allegations. one man qualified enough to answer why the paper has pulled back is its iconic former editor. when it sold millions of copies every day. i hope he was well paid. it's kelvin mackenzie. hey, kelvin. first of all, many people now saying that huw edwards is the victim of a witch hunt , victim of a witch hunt, including the respected biographer, tom bower. do you agree . agree. >> well, if he is a member. well, i don't agree with tom. actually, i radically disagree with him. i mean, the truth about the matter, if it is a witch hunt, it's coming from all different directions. to be fair. so coming from both fair. so it's coming from both his own colleagues on one his own own colleagues on one side and on the other side. a mum who is worried about very worried about her son and where suddenly £35,000 turned up through paypal into his account for reasons which were then explained as explicit photos. >> kelvin, just just to

interrupt you briefly there. sorry, boss, i don't want to interrupt you because i want to hear every word you've got to say, there is question say, but there is some question mark whether the sun were mark about whether the sun were everin mark about whether the sun were ever in possession of evidence of payment or those of that payment or those payments of 35 grand. do you know whether the sun are in possession of any any hard copy evidence that those payments were made and. well i don't know 100% about that, but what i do know and i have been told is that they have a lot more evidence of other kinds as well. >> so i'm told i'm told. but who knows that they're totally relaxed about any kind of action that might be taken on the behalf of mr edwards. but the thing where i do take issue with them is , by the way, i praise them is, by the way, i praise them is, by the way, i praise them for what they have done. they were acting on behalf of a worried mother . we should all worried mother. we should all hope that we would act on behalf of a drug addicted child who had

suddenly allegedly turned up with a load of money in exchange for explicit photos. we would hope that all our mums and our dads acted for us. nobody would act for those mums until the sun came along and then they did the right thing. but the thing i don't agree with them about and this is where actually i'm, i'm in conflict with them and in praise of the bbc is that the bbc news guys have continued to investigate it and say and let it be known that they have they started this investigation fryston prior to the sun publishing the story so within the bbc news and i know this through my wider contacts that actually this this this revelation about him this was according to bbc newsnight, by the way, had been, shall we say, tapping up young male producers . right. probably 3 or 4 of them actually . he was enormously well

actually. he was enormously well known within bbc news this was what he did. this came as no surprise. so bbc, newsnight looking into this couldn't come as a surprise. why the sun have decided to throw their hand in is beyond me. actually, to be honest, they clearly don't like the heat kelvin. i just suspect that they want to they want to calm it all down and just get on with other stories in their lives. i don't blame them for that, but it looks like weakness i >> -- >> kelvin clearly the allegations made by colleagues of huw edwards in relation to his behaviour are just allegations . at this point. allegations. at this point. you'll understand why i need to stress that. and also i'll point out that alleged victim from out that the alleged victim from the first round of stories, the 35 grand for the photos, has has denied the story, said it's rubbish , although who's paying rubbish, although who's paying for their lawyers is another question . are you disappointed question. are you disappointed that the sun have called a ceasefire on this , kelvin? why ceasefire on this, kelvin? why have they stopped when the bbc

continue to pursue the story ? continue to pursue the story? >> well, to be honest , it right >> well, to be honest, it right in my day right selling millions, making a fortune and everything going rather well . everything going rather well. well, actually, if there were a story like this and you believed in it, you carried on with it. yeah thanks very much . right. yeah thanks very much. right. today that's different. it's not making much money, right. today that's different. it's not making much money, right . and making much money, right. and i'm not saying that rupert murdoch will sell it tomorrow. but the minute that rupert carks it within half an hour before his body is cold, somebody would have put it up for sale. you know, they don't want they just it's making so little money that nobody wants the aggro anymore. and the strange thing is the business that is making the most money or almost the most money for the sun now is the sun in america , where it publishes america, where it publishes america, where it publishes america style versions of sun stories. right? nothing to do

with the uk or american stories making an absolute fortune. and while the sun in london is laying people off galore in the us , they're hiring galore and us, they're hiring galore and they're making a lot of money. so that may exist over there. but but the printed version of the sun will not be around 30s after rupert dies. so kelvin, if anyone knows the story, it's you. >> you believe that there is still a story at the heart of these allegations around huw edwards. you don't agree with jon sopel? tom bower and others who are saying nothing to see here. you think more is to come and you don't think huw edwards will be back on our screens ? will be back on our screens? >> i can't imagine. i can't imagine how he will come back . imagine how he will come back. it it would be absolutely impossible . it it would be absolutely impossible. he's it it would be absolutely impossible . he's sitting there impossible. he's sitting there reading, and now we have a very serious story . a member of the serious story. a member of the royal family has died. and by the way, here's a picture that is now making its way around the

internet. you know, i mean, it is literally impossible. so i'm afraid . look, he's got a 61. afraid. look, he's got a 61. he's done for decades with the bbc. he makes 440 grand a year. his pension will simply be enormous . and it may be that enormous. and it may be that i tell you what, it's even more bizarre. it may be that he ends up getting a getting some kind of severance on the way out in order to make it all kind of all kind of, you know, nice and easy. nicey nicey. >> well, kelvin , it's been a >> well, kelvin, it's been a brilliant debate. there'll be no severance package with you because are essential on gb. because you are essential on gb. gb always dropping truth gb news always dropping truth bombs. and of course we appreciate that. i say, you appreciate that. as i say, you know story when you one as know a story when you see one as the former iconic editor of the sun kelvin, we'll catch up soon. my your time. me my thanks for your time. let me stress, way, that stress, by the way, that allegations about this photo and 35 grand and huw edwards, they are just that they are allegations . we need huw edwards allegations. we need huw edwards to get well soon. that's very important. and he needs to have a right to reply. and i look forward to his response to all

of these allegations. well, it's time now for our greatest britons and union jackasses to do just that. allison pearson shaun bailey and joanna josh howie allison, who do you like today? who's your greatest? britain well, it's a group nomination. >> mark. it's the people of southwest wales for valiantly defending their beautiful local hotel against the arrival of 241 asylum seekers. forward slash illegal migrants. people asylum seekers. forward slash illegal migrants . people power illegal migrants. people power at its to best writes sean, who's your greatest briton? >> my greatest briton is the gb news cameraman, one of our very news cameraman, one of our very own news cameraman, one of our very own who took on professional disrupter steve bray. it was a great thing to do because, look, we're forming this idea that people can disrupt people's lives as it suits them. and to see gb news on the ground standing up for common sense yet again is always heartwarming. >> love it. let's take a look at the footage . there are more the footage. there are more people who are likely to become

get off any nonsense, get your hands off. >> get your hands. off >> get your hands. off >> let me tell you, you don't mess with gb news crew members. we've got alastair in my ear. you don't mess with him. you don't mess with adam. well done, adam. you are a hero. i love our team here at the channel. okay and not least, joanna, and last but not least, joanna, youn and last but not least, joanna, your. greatest briton . your. your greatest briton. >> my greatest briton is . is >> my greatest briton is. is hugh elle edwards wife. i think that her response was very dignified. yeah and given everything that she's going through now, and i think that she's been a great example and pulled herself together to represent her family and even though she's been put through hell basically this week. well, i like all your nominations, so props to vicky, must be props to vicky, who must be going hell at the moment. >> and to adam, my brilliant colleague at gb news. but i'm giving to the protesters in giving it to the protesters in wales it's about wales because it's all about people few seconds people power. just a few seconds for union jackasses. alison for your union jackasses. alison who's grinding your gears tonight? >> journalist sopel, who >> journalist jon sopel, who

thinks edwards is thinks that what huw edwards is alleged to have done is not much. they tried that on my son. i'd say it was a lot more than not much. >> yeah, too. right. okay. how about you , sean? your union about you, sean? your union jackass? about you, sean? your union jacimy.? about you, sean? your union jacimy union jackass. >> my union jackass. unfortunately, joe biden for calling volodymyr zelenskyy, vladimir zelenskyy a small thing, but important considering what he's dealing with. >> yeah. let's hope he doesn't send bombs to the wrong country. and but not least, joanna, and last but not least, joanna, we've really enjoyed having you tonight. first appearance we've really enjoyed having you torthe:. first appearance we've really enjoyed having you torthe show. first appearance we've really enjoyed having you torthe show. who's appearance we've really enjoyed having you torthe show. who's yourearance we've really enjoyed having you torthe show. who's your unions jackass? >> my union jackass is boris johnson , who i think should have johnson, who i think should have been the centre of all media stories. he called the covid inquiry, but he still hasn't coughed up the phone and whatsapp messages that he said he would. >> enough. okay well, here >> fair enough. okay well, here is winner, folks. i'm going is my winner, folks. i'm going for president joe biden. thanks to brilliant team . the big to dan's brilliant team. the big man is back on monday at nine and i'm back for mark dolan tonight tomorrow at 9:00. see you headliners is next. you then. headliners is next. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxed solar are proud sponsors

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