thousands lined up -- wow. rachel: amazing show. by the way, they're on their way to the funeral a mass that will be presided by the same priest who married them just a couple years ago. pete: yeah. that's why brian kilmeade when he was on the show earlier from there said, hey, this is not a local story, this is a national story. and you see it in the tens of thousands of law enforcement officers de. vending -- joey: from all over the country. pete: -- to be there to honor that man who laid down his life for his community, his country and remember him -- rachel: and not just officers and law enforcement and and first responders, but also a citizens. so many citizens there. pete: have a blessed saturday, we'll see you on easter, tomorrow. rachel: see you tomorrow. poole neil to put it mildly, not any funeral. you are looking live at massapequa, new york, where ning ypd officer jonathan diller will be laid e to rest later this morning. the 34-year-old officer was shot and killed at a routine traffic

stop, the suspect, a 34-year-old career criminal with 21 prior arrests. more on those charges and the service for officer diller with former nypd commissioner bill bratton coming up. but first to baltimore where the search for four remaining victims has been put on hold as the largest crane on the east coast has arrived to help remove 4,000 tons of debris from the collapsed key bridge and the cargo vessel itself. maryland governor wes moore is in a closed door briefing right now at the command center, and he's going to join us after that wraps up in an exclusive interview on the very latest. plus it is now one year and one day since "wall street journal" reporter evan gersch covisit was wrong -- evan gershkovich was detained in the russia. a moscow court just extended his detention by at least another three months. lots of breaking news to get to, so let's get to it. ♪ ♪

neil: welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. we want to go to wallet baltimore right now, make way to moving and looking for those four other victims in this tragedy. madeleine rivera is there with the latest. hey, or madeleine. >> reporter: hey, neil. a lot of assets are heading to this area in the coming days. the navy the has dispatched three crepes including the chesapeake -- cranes including the chesapeake 3000 which is capable of lifting 1,000 tons. but money of them has begun the work of actually lifting the debris right behind me because crews right now including inspectors and engineers, they're in the planning stages assessing the site, mapping out the debris to try and figure out how to do this work as quickly and safely as a possible. >> we're beginning to make progress on those phases. in the phase one we talked about, we need to do the

assessments of the bridge both above the water line and beneath the water. those assessments continue. as the governor said, we were out there today. >> reporter: and is that's the problem here, neil. so you got these cranes that can lift anywhere from 150-1,000 tons. the problem is the span of this bridge you see right on top of the dolly here, it weighs about 3-4,000 ton, so it has to be split up into smaller pieces to these cranes can lift them out of the water. and the hope is enough debris is cleared out so that maryland state police divers can head a back into the water and recover those four missing people, presumably dead and in the water. and and then, of course, open up the channel to allow some vessels to head in and out of the port. >> the port handles more cars and more farm equipment than any other port in this country. at least 8,000 workers on the docks have jobs that have been

directly impacted by this collapse. >> reporter: and an official tells me this morning they are close to finishing up hair plan. they also tell me that they plan to increase the number of assets to this air in the coming days. they plan to dispatch seven floating cranes, ten tugs and nine barges over the next five days. unfortunately though the, there is no timeline as to when this work will be completed and when this port, this channel, however, rather, will be opened. neil. neil: madeleine, thank you for all of that. madeleine rivera on that. let's go to former national transportation safety board official. charlie, always good to have you on and maybe give us some perspective if and help here. we do know that six hours of data on so-called cargo tapes have been retrieved. what kind of data is on those tapes? >> we have numerical data like speed, position, heading, rudder angle, things like you see on the dashboard of your car, all

the data -- not all of it, but a portion of the data with this vessel. there's a minimum set of parameters required by the international maritime organization. and then in addition to that, we have audio data from the bridge that will tell us wells marine communication es audio -- as well as marine communications audio that will tell us the audio environment. you can hear the conversations, any alarms going on in the background, they can characterize those alarms and and work with the parties to factually identify exactly what they are. and then from that they start to piece together the time history of this accident. neil: so this includes voice and, you know, data itself, a bit of a distinction from airplane as after a crash or an incident where you piece together data with one and, you know, audio communications with another. there's a lot to go through there. >> yeah, there's a lot of data. not nearly as many parameters typically as there are on a newer airplane. we have thousands of parameters

on a flight data recorder for a new airplane as opposed to, you know, a couple handfuls of parameters on a typical maritime order. but still it's critical, you know? there's a rot less to be concerned about on a large vessel like this. you know, you're not flying at 500 miles an hour with triple redundant systems throughout the airplane, so you've got a lot smaller parameter set of concern. nevertheless, it's excellent news to hear that they got good data from the recorder and they're piecing that together. it shouldn't be much longer now on the ntsb, they should be able to put out, you know, if they're willing to put it out at this early time a very accurate time history of what happened on this accident. neil: well, experts like you going through trl like that is one thing. for a lot of average folks what we have access to is the tape of the incident itself when it looked like this ship had lost all power, you know? some said e a couple of minutes before it hit the bridge with,

oh -- others say it really is a matter of second. that is an unusual event, i guess, but we have epstein something schism -- we have seen something similar in china. this was a disastrous case, but is that a unusual, just where a ship loses power and the ability to do pretty much anything in? >> from a statistical standpoint, yes, it is unusual. but because of the sheer number of these transits every day, there have been hundreds of these over the course of the last 50 years, and the ntsb has put out many safety recommendations directly related to the over the last 50 years starting in the early 1970s and and continuing -- the most recent one with a significant set of repses was the early 2000s. they basically asked the federal highway administration and the state association of transportation authorities to

study the vulnerability of all of their bridge withs to such vessel impacts and then cat a guise the susceptibility of each of their bridge withs to those accidents like this one. unfortunately, the ntsb did not go further and recommend that based on the results of those findings that they equip all of the susceptibling bridges with means of protection to prevent this from occurring. like, for example, on the tampa if sunshine state the bridge that got dropped back around 1980s, they did take action to put defensive barriers around the perimeter of the supports for that a bridge, and and this have been several strikes on those supports since then that have been, fortunately, sunk the ships but did not damage the bridge. so i think the ntsb needs to go a step further this time and

recommend the highway administration and the state, like in this case maryland,ing go ahead and equip their most sensitive bridges with that type of protective devices. i'm assuming that the information's going to find out is -- the investigation's going to find out the entire paperwork communication history from this particular bridge to determine why the highway administration in the state of maryland determined that they can did not want to go ahead and protect this bridge over the last 40 year since those repses were issued. -- recommendations were issueded. neil: i did wonder why they didn't make them national, but there might have been perfectly valid reasons, not the least of which expensive. let me ask you about the size of these ships. this cargo ship was particularly large, and i'm thinking about even on the passenger cruise line front, i mean, royal caribbean has this gigantic ship, what, three times the size of the titanic, the icon of the seas. there's one coming up a year from now, and they all navigate the same waters. i'm not blaming the size of

these, but i am wondering about how we work around these. what do you make of all that? >> well, the size, you know, the kinetic energy is one-half mass if times ve hasty squared. so, it's directly linearly related to the mass and the square of the velocity. so you want to -- when these things are transiting these sensitive bridges, you probably want to make a sure they're going the minimum speed at which they can maintain safe steerage and, you know, that would be one good recommendation. and, you know, there's a variety of them. i've also discussed in the last week since this happened that they, you know, we've got self-driving cars now with a variety of really high-tech sensors that allow them to avoid impacts, and you could also use that same technology to equip all of these bridges with an advance warning system that would detect the path of the vessel, predict the impact and drop a set of cross bucks and

warn anybody on the bridge to get off as soon as possible. that needs to be looked at rapidly as well. neil: you've been amazing all this past week educating folks like me about what you can look at. when you started quoting formulas here, i knew you were the real mccoy. thank you. the former national transportation safety board official. we're going to be hearing from governor wes moore of maryland a little later in the broadcast, get the latest on what he is hearing from those trying to deal with this and clear the way. in the meantime, to dan geltrude, geltrude company founder. dan knows of the potential economic impact of something like this. it doesn't do much to help the supply chain issues we have, all this other stuff not withstanding, does it, dan? >> no, not at all. listen, neil, the whole problem that we've had related to inflation over the last few years has all a been driven, in my judgment, by a lack of supply. demand has always stayed pretty steady. we just haven't been able to get products and services to

consumers. so when you have a situation like this bridge, that's only going to add to the damages we have with. now, i know inflation is cooling slightly, but when you have a situation like this, a main vein for commerce being shut down for a period of time, we're going to feel that again. neil: you know, a lot of it, too, is psychological. the markets are as much attuned to the mood and the fear as a regular average folks. so while the red sea, you know, supply disruption with ships that are being attacked by houthi rebels is very different than what happened here, it is a case of disruption. it is a case a of products that are delayed getting to where they have to go and the price of them going up as they are delayed getting them where they go. so play this out for for me. what do you think? >> well, i think what happens here, neil, is that people have inflation fatigue. we have gotten used to having to

the pay more. it doesn't mean that we like it, but it's just a way of life. so we're kind of stuck with that. so now we're looking to the fed to say how are they going to resolve this. now, jerome powell is saying we're going to hold rates steady for right now, but he he keeps teasing the fact that we are going to be lowering rates perhaps sometime in the near future, the second half of 2024. now, if we do that, neil, and we don't have these supply issues addressed, what's that going to lead to? it's going to lead to fueling more demand, not being able to increase these supplies. and what do you know? we're back with an inflationary problem. that's why i think jerome powell should do nothing for the foreseeable future. neil: and that might be the case. thank you very much, dan geltrude, on that. we were showing you the markets for the week. if they're concerned about any of this, of course, they had a

funny way of showing it. they were closed yesterday for good friday, i think dan touched on that. but the fact of the matter is the inflation worries from this or at least period are alive and well, and the fed chair -- if it stays stubborn, there's no rush the start cutting rates. the betting is that that he will, though, as a early as june. that is not a sure thing. we're following that and also following the funeral for nypd officer a jonathan diller, the latest of that including a former police commissioner says we don't need to see this keep happening. after this. rkplace benefits and retirement savings. voya provides tools that help you make the right investment and benefit choices. so you can reach today's financial goals and look forward to a more confident future. voya, well planned, well invested, well protected. oooo. trouble seeing, buddy? you should book an exam at america's best. america's best. they have one of the nation's largest groups of optometrists! oh, you're ... very welcome. america's best. because eye care is healthcare - and you deserve the best.

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>> not a week goes by in which we are not engaging at the highest levels with the russian federation to do everything we can to bring evan and paul home as swiftly as a possible. i mean, you talked about this at the top of the segment. they just at the beginning of this week extended evan's a detention without offering any additional insight, offering any

additional evidence, offering any information. these claims that they're making, they're totally a sham. evan was a journalists doing his job, and journalism is not a crime. neil: all right, the state department spokesman making it very clear they're doing everything in tear power to get "the wall street journal" reporter, evan gershkovich, out of jail. but for one year and one day that's exactly where he's been and now another three months added to that prison sentence or whatever you want to call it. the bottom line is no progress seem to be being paid , and that frustrates not only his family, but with his friends including this next gentleman, sam silverman, a fend of evan's, who reminds me this is not some dissident, or you know, russian who was out to get vladimir putin or do anything of the sort. sam, thank you for taking the time. >> thanks for having me, neil. neil: do you or have you or some of your buddies had a chance to communicate with him directly or indirectly in. >> yes.

we've been able to write letters and receive letters with evan in prison over the past year and a day, as you have said, and, you know, we've been able to communicate with him pretty consistently. neil: that's nice to hear. what -- how is he feeling? how is he dealing with all of this? >> he is being incredibly strong about this. he is maintaining good sense of humor, he's teasing us if his letters, and he's, you know, in a situation where we would think we would need to support if him, he's really been supporting us. it's incredible, the fortitude that he has being in this tiny, notoriously difficult russian prison right now. but he is, he is okay, and he's working really hard to be okay. neil: you know, i always' some of these stories that humanize the figure that you see in the news, sam, and i was intrigued that he's a fan of arsenal who's

his favorite soccer team, so he follows them closely. maybe you guys swap stories on them. what else can you tell us? >> he's a fan of the mets and the jets, and so -- neil: wait a minnesota, he's a fan of the mets? -- wait a minute. >> he's a fan of the mets. neil: we can't all be perfect. [laughter] i'm kidding, go ahead. >> i grew up in boston, so as a red sox and patriots' fan -- [laughter] i've been ribbing him mercilessly about his favorite sports teams. and, you know, we're just trying to keep him involved in the life that he should be a part of right now. he should be here. he should be watching the games with us, he should be rooting on his teams, he should be at a birthdays and weddings and celebrations and holidays. and the fact he's not right now is absolutely outrageous. he's an innocent man. of he's been jailed because he's a journalist, and he needs to be freed immediately. neil: the fact that he's not -- we've heard nothing to detail these charges against him, when you first heard about his arrest, what did you make of it?

>> it didn't seem like it could be real. i mean, historical events like this don't happen to people that you know, you know? it's manager that happens to other -- something that happens to other people. and to see evan's face blasterred all over the news as a spy was -- plasteredded all over the news as a spy was absolutely ridiculous, and it didn't make sense. this was something that, you know, we had discussed with him as a potential fear, but he assured us because he's an accredited journalist and because he's an american citizen that the worst case scenario is he would have been kicked out of the country, not thrown in jail. neil: yeah, it's so wild. sam, you sound like a wonderful friend, a wonderful human being, as does evan -- minussing the new york mets thing -- [laughter] in all seriousness, it was very nice to have -- of you to stop by. >> thank you verying if me and free evan. neil: indeed of. sam silverman on all of that. we're going to have more on this and all this all stands with mike pompeo, former secretary of state, because there are a lot

of delicate negotiations at stake here. we'll follow up on this. also following up on that a big fundraiser that joe biden had this week featuring two of his democratic predecessors. but in case you think that donald trump isn't responding financially, get ready for a week from today when we're told he's got a big fundraiser himself. bigger than that one. after this. like how to keep your yard looking lush. which paint color matches your bold style. and with the mylowe's rewards credit card, you can save 5% every day. you got this. and we got you. this isn't charmin! no wonder i don't feel as clean. here's charmin ultra strong. ahhh! my bottom's been saved! with its diamond weave texture, charmin ultra strong cleans better with fewer sheets and less effort. enjoy the go with charmin.

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the white house. hey, lucas. >> reporter: hey, neil. most elections are about the future. president biden appeared to be going back to the past, bringing with him up to new york barack obama and bill clinton, perhaps reminding people of the way things used to be in this country. they've been taking in a large haul during that fundraiser at radio city music hall, bringing in over $25 million. the event was marred by some protest ors. repeatedly challenging the president about his israel policy. >> shame on you, joe biden! shame on you! knox if knox him a on you! >> reporter: and like i just said, neil, biden perhaps hoping the appearance with obama and clinton reminding people of better times in u.s. history. biden's poll numbers offer a reality check, however. only 30 aa prove of his handling of -- 30% approve of his handling of immigration, a majority disapprove of his handling of inflation and the economy. you didn't hear much about bidenomics up there in new york. biden chose to focus on something else e. >> i think our democracy's at

stake, not a joke. i think democracy is at stake. [applause] if look, i wasn't going to run in 2020 because i had just lost my son beau a little earlier, and until i watched what happened down in virginia when those folks came out of the fields carrying torches and nazi flags. >> reporter: so, or neil, while donald trump has been outgamed by president biden, in the course of 2016 the same situation existed, and donald trump went on to win that election. the trump campaign says they have a new goal, and that's to outfundraise the biden campaign, hold an event and bring in somewhere north of $30 million. and perhaps palm beach a good place to do that. sours say there's a lot of money down there -- sources say there's a lot of money down this. neil? neil: lucas, thank you very much. the impact of a gop pollster, also carly cooperman back with us, democratic pollster. always fair, always a balanced. carly, let me get your take on

the significance of getting two very popular former presidents to join a not so popular present president. i wonder or if it helps or hurts joe biden up against those two guys. whatever you say about bill clinton and and barack obama, they're pretty glib, they're pretty quick on their feet, they're pretty funny, entertaining, charismatic. i wouldn't attach -- and i don't mean to be rude -- those qualities to this president. does it make him look bad by comparison? does it remind folks he doesn't compare to those guys? >> absolutely not. joe biden is leaning into the resources that he has. he's got two former presidents that are wild to hi popular with his democratic -- wildly popular with his democratic base and a base that he needs to motivate and turn out this election. and there is no better surrogates to use as advocates for biden's candidacy as people who are not only just raising the stakes of how important it is to get democrats to vote this

election, but also to speak to what biden has accomplished in his first term. there are no better people to do that than president obama and president clinton for the democratic way. -- base. these are people who are in need of being motivated and excited, and they have this match. and one of the things that a biden has that trump does not is have is the unity of the democratic party in terms of the elected officials and its party leaders, and he should be using that to his full advantage. neil: well, i don't know if he has the unity thing, right? he's got a lot of challengers, you know, of course, robert f. kennedy running third party. a lot of people are angry about his israel policy and all the rest, so it's hardly -- >> from a leader's perspective, i mean. in terms of the party's leaders. he's got a faction of the voters he's got to bring together, but the party leadership is bebe hind him. -- is behind him. neil: justin, donald trump is looking forward to a week from today a big fundraiser that

could get upwards of $35, maybe even $40 million. it will be a big haul. but even with that big haul, he'll still trail the president by a wide margin. now, he's one of those rare candidates who doesn't need all the money, he gets free attention and and advertising almost ever time he gives a speech or goes out in public. so i get that. and he certainly was dwarfed by hillary clinton in 20216 when he was running -- 2016. she had all the a money, she add all the bold-faced names and hollywood celebrities, but he had all the packed stadiums and venues. so what do you make of that money disadvantage? and even if he raises a lot next week, whether it really means anything. >> you're right, he has always punched above his weight. but the money dis advantage is more than just the delta, the gap between what he's raised and what biden has a raised which is significant. the other meaningful part of this is how much has been spent because president trump has spent considerably with more than president biden, or former president trump has spent

considerably more than biden largely on legal woes. that is actually a real problem because it does affect if how much he can deploy in real campaigning. that's an issue, and it's going to be an ongoing issue. neil: i wonder too, the people who are considering giving to him, they might fear i don't want this to go to your legal bills. now, there are caveats to that, i get all of that. it's not illegal to do so if that's the case, but wouldn't it inhibit people to think, well, i don't know about this? i don't know about giving money to the guy? >> we're not really seeing a sharp trajectory change in terms of his fund raising. in fact, he continues to be quite strong among small donors which is always a decent proxy for kind of enthusiasm. those are the folks that are digging in their wallets and pull out $20 or $50, and he's outperforming biden in that space. i'm not seeing a massive that that a jekyllly change. carly may feel differently, but most people -- just like they did in 2016, they know what former president trump is. there's no surprises there.

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neil: this funeral and this event for nypd officer jonathan diller is much bigger than massapequa, new york. it has electrified and horrified an entire nation. c.b. cotton is there right now. c.b. >> reporter: neil, good morning. it is a solemn day as thousands converge on this long island community to say their final good byes to fall if. en nypd officer a jonathan diller. right now from our vantage point you can see just some of the

thousands of officers who have gathered here. right now everyone is waiting for the dignified funeral procession session. and out of respect for this hero who gave his life and sacrifice ised to the community and those who are grieviing i'm going to remain off camera a and speak in a hushed tone. there are officers from agencies across the state but also law enforcement from across the country. diller was conducting a i routine traffic stop in queens on monday when he was shot in his stomach below his bulletproof vest. he was rushed to the hospital but did not make it. suspect guy rivera has been charged with first-degree murder. at the time of the shooting, neil, orally very or rah was out on the streets with 21 prior arrests. thousands attended a 2-day wake for officer diller who was only 31 years old. hid wife stephanie and infant son ryan will now carry on his legacy. new york mayor eric adams relayed condolences arepresident bidening to the family. former president donald trump accepted an invite to attend the

wake, and if he paid his respects and met with diller's wife and son. and right now, neil, the funeral is about to begin. we're going to ab take a live look. gnawed awe owe -- [no audio] >> reporter: and, again, or or neil, the funeral is about to begin. a dignified procession for officer jonathan diller. we're going to be out here today monitoring, like i mentioned former president donald trump did accept an invite to attend the wake for this fallennen officer. he met with diller's family. he spoke to the press saying, quote, we have to get back to law and order. so many people have gathered out here today, neil, to say their final good-byes with heavy hearts. diller joined the police force just three years ago. pack to you. neil: >> c.b., so sad. thank you very much. c.b. cotton in maas we what. bill bratton, former nypd commission or. bill, i'm not saying anything

profound when i talk about time and you never know when your life will end. a lot of policemen, firemen, today know that. they know that's a risk every time they leave their home in the morning and kiss their spouse if good bye and their kids good bye with the risk that they might not come home. i think about last week at this time, he was alive and welch probably -- and well. probably enjoying his 11 is-year-old son, a beautiful -- 11-year-old son, a beautiful marriage -- 1-year-old son not knowing on monday it would all a end, but it keeps happening, bill. this kind of stuff keeps happening. what do you make of it? >> i love being associated with the police for over 50 years now, and you're correct, it keeps happening. every year dozens of police officers are murdered in the line of duty similar to the young officer who's being buried today. president trump, former president trump talked about more needs to be done, no specifics. many politicians talk a lot about this issue but not much is

being done when so much could be. i just hope that the national attention that's being focused on this particular murder of this police officer might begin a tipping point in this recognition that what we are talking about crime maybe being down across the country, statistics don't necessarily always tell the story. there is a great fear, there is a great perception of crime in this country, and if politicians need to wake up to that. they can't take comfort that the fact that -- in the fact that numbers are town in some cities. there is a great fear in new york city right now, in it subway system, on its streets, random attacks on women walking down the street, stabs. it is a crises -- stabbings. it is not being adequately address by either party at the

moment. i hope this funeral, this solemn funeral this morning, this inspector's funeral, there's so much tradition that goes into these funerals, that it effectively generates more attention in this national campaign to this issue. the time to do something about this problem is now. and now is the time that politicians on both sides need to come up with some specific plans and ideas that can be embraced by both parties. america right now is in fear. i don't care what the politicians are saying. you talk to anybody, and they're concerned about crime and public safety, and the statistics really don't mean anything to them. neil: no, you said that very eloquently, bill. i also think, ien mean, sadri -- i mean, sadly, you and i have covered and chatted at a prior funerals like this, but this seems a special case like it hit a nerve point. and maybe the combination of what's been going on in new york with all these reportings of

people shoved onto subway tracks and the rest, you get a view that these are anomalies. but there are a lot of these aa momlies. and the -- anomalies. and the timing of this and the crowds particularly here, they must be saying something. they must be -- when you look at the needlessness of all of this, that the assailant had 21 prior arrests. and, again, new york mayor eric adams saying this resid vim, this repeat offender issue has to be the aaddressed, and then he getted reamed for saying something like that, that he's too tough on crime. i just wonder what came together here? because i think both sides, you talk about democrats, republicans, conservatives and liberals, they would readily acknowledge, i think, that someone who has 2 21 prior arrests, keeps getting out, that's a problem. >> it's a major problem. the death of this young officer

is an inflection point because the momentum of fear, of crime and disorder in new york city and many other cities around america has been building. it leads to news stories every night. of it's on the front page of most of the papers every day. and this horrific event, this horrific murder coming on top of many other incidents in new york, it has effectively provided a catalyst in which there is now i going to be a new debate at a perfect time. we're in the midst of a national election. this issue is going to have to be resolved starting nationally, as it was in 994 -- 1994, the passage of the crime bill. i was present in the rose garden when that the bill was signed as police commissioner in boston initially and then police commissioner in new york, and i understood the significance of that national coming together. i lobbied newt gingrich. i lobbied then-senator biden. i worked with president clinton

and major american police chiefs to get that bills pad, 100,000 -- passed, 100,000 additional police officers, a ban on assault weapons, a lot more laws to protect women and the building of more prisons. there's been a gate human cry about the negative effect of building those prisons. i'm sorry, there are a lot of criminals in 1994, and the only way to keep the prick safe was to put -- [audio difficulty] neil: well said, bill. well said. thank you very much. we can go back and forth on these polarizing political issues. it will do little good to bring back 31-year-old jonathan diller who, as i stressed, a week ago probably would have never envisioned this or the thousands from all over the country who would be there for this. he was alive, he was well, he was happy, he was a proud policeman. and now he's gone. we'll have more after this. a eqt

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neil: all right, he was the king of crypto, but right now he's going if to be a prison inmate for maybe a quarter of a century. kelly o'grady on what went down for the crypto king. >> reporter: well, or neil, a 25 years for one of the biggest financial frauds in history. some say it's too much for a 332-year-old, some say -- 32-year-old, some say it's not enough. either way, his legal team does plan to mount an appeal, but for now the judge recommended bankman-fried serve out that sentence at a low or medium security facility in the san francisco bay area. that that leaves just a hand offul of options. on the low security side, he'd get more dormitory-style beds, white collar criminals for company. immediate you, know, shea -- medium, he'd be with violent criminals as potential cell mates. mendota would be a medium security option. inmates can enjoy foosball,

racketball, they can even learn to cho shay. crochet. and, of course, he's also looking to stick to his vegan diet, so the standard bureau of prison menu, we saw it offer as everything from tofu fajitas to a soy taco salad. yum with, neil. those activities might sound fun but, of course, this isn't going to be a walk in the park for sbf. all of those that i mentioned have made the news for inmate if deaths, pa violations though perhaps not as bad as the rat-infested bahamian jail he spent a few days in. over time he could earn his way to club fed for white collar criminals, but that's going to take good behavior and working a job to earn those credits. back to you, neil. neil: kelly o'grady, thank you very much for that. i know a lot of people were criticizing a whole 25-year sentence here but, remember, it's 25 the years to look forward to soy taco salads. game over.

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neil: all right, you might not be feeling it in some parts of the country but spring is oning and the best reminder of that is baseball is back. resuming this week. a lot of games were canceled with rain, what have you. there's a lot of controversies too to address, the whole shohei ohtani thing and whether he gambled or his are interpreter to the tune of $4 mrs. million, so a lot of -- $4 plus million. not this guy, arguably one of the greatest baseball players, roger clemens. i was so excited when my staff told me, we have roger clemens on.

guy dominated the scene for a quarter of a century. roger, it's an honor to have you. thank you. >> thank you neil. i appreciate it. yeah, it's a great time of year right now. you have major league baseball kicking off, you have the final four ncaa basketball and, of course, the masters is right around the corner too. i love watching those guys at augusta national, so it's a great time of year. neil: and i'm not one to toot any team horns here, but my son, his university, clemson university, is in it right now. and no one thought they'd be. so that's just out there with anything can ap. and i thought the same -- can happen. and i thought about the same about baseball. the start of the season, hope strings e full-term. -- eternal. then the season goes on and on and on, and we find out maybe not. who are some of the teams you're watching? >> atlanta and l.a. dodgers are loaded with hitting too. as you know -- neil: never much after the season, right in. >> i know.

once you get down to october, it'll be defense and pitching will take over. neil: yeah. >> and right now, speaking of pipping, there's about -- pitching, there's about five or six guys, about $200 million worth of star pitch or that are on the shelf with shoulder or elbow problems. so we're waiting to see what happens there. they're going to miss a couple months of the season, so could get real interesting there. yeah, my hometown astros, he should be right there in the mix when it all settles. the phillies, of course, the defending champs, the rangers, and then the yankees. the yankees gotta make a showing this year, for sure. neil: who do you root for? you played for a lot of these teams, obviously. do you have your own personal fave, this is the team i'm really pushing for? >> yeah. so, so is right here at home in houston, you know, i enjoyed my last part of my career coming home to pitch. it was a lot of fun. but i can't, you know, you can't rule out -- can i love history and being able to play in a historic place like fenway park,

old yankee stadium, i tell people all the time new yankee stadium is nice, there's nothing like old yankee stadium. we had ghosts running around in that a place we had so many come from behind wins. yeah, a lot of fun. i was fortunate to play in two stadiums that were rich in tradition, and that's a big deal. neil: absolutely. you were like a babe ruth with the red sox and the yankees. but i was reading that you were recently pitching for the savannah if bananas? -- v.a. nana bananas? and i wonder, is in your way of signaling like a george foreman move you're going to go back? >> yeah, no. i told 'em, i felt like satchel page out there at 611 years old. [laughter] -- 611 years old. i had to ice for three straight days after a i got done doing that. [laughter] i was originally going to throw out the first pitch, and then the it became, hey, can you pitch in the game. i'm like, hey, man, listen, i'm 61. these kids are young. but it was a lot of fun. i did it for my two grand boys,

7-year-old twins, and i told them -- i'm papi rocket now, neil -- [laughter] when i came off the a mound, i told 'em they had to do the greeting with me, and they did it. we just had a lot of fun. neil: beautiful. you were amazing. i think you throw harder now than most of these kids coming right out and joining the majors. roger clemens, loved watching the yankees. really didn't give a damn about you when you were with the red sox -- [laughter] but,ting man, you are the main guy. roger, have a wonderful easter weekend. >> thank you, buddy. i appreciate it. neil: roger clemens. i think i can die now. i think i can. that was an interview i was always a wanting to do. we'll have more after this. and i'm ready for a rematch. game on. i've been practicing. what the cello? you want me to lower the hoop? foul! what? you going to tell on me again? foul yah? foul bro! ...

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