>> that >> just not just this drug, it should be all of them. think of it, all those that meant then would leave the marketplace, not just for women reproductive rights, but everyone that's really the crux of this issue. why alito was saying, well, hold on as the fda and fallible. he believed in me even further the thing will hold on is he leaning in that direction to suggest that the fda somehow is fatally undermining their credibility. that'd be very sweeping where nobody is saying the fda is infallible think anybody he's made that argument, but or you could here where the justice was going there when he made that comment. all right. laura meg elliott, sonya, thank you very much. we'll of course, get back to you. a busy morning here in the cnn newsroom. stay with us so we'll be back in just a few moments. what's that guy's we're gonna go to the next hour or we're going to go to the top of the hour that thank you for staying with us. you were alive at the cnn newsroom. i'm jim acosta and in washington, as i was saying a few moments ago, i thought we might be going to break, but we're not we've got a lot of moving parts this morning we're going to begin this hour with the disaster unfolding right now in baltimore, a massive one mile interstate bridge has

collapsed as we've been telling you all morning long, this is the moment that the francis scott key bridge plunged into the potassium river in baltimore piece-by-piece taking with it a number of vehicles and people, six people are missing at this hour after a huge container ships slammed into a column supporting the bridge a short time ago, maryland official said the crew warned it was having power issues before the collision. two people have been rescued from the 48 degree water. one person seriously injured. this is the emergency dispatch call to the first responders as they were in route to the listen he. >> advised the entire bridge entire cambridge in the harbor advise again, the entire team bridge has fallen into the harbor all. >> right cnn's bryan todd and pete muntean join me now. brian, i know it's been about 9.5 hours since the collision where are you right now? it looks like you might be on a

boat somewhere near the collapsed bridge. can you tell us where to things stand right now in terms of the search operations? >> right, jim, we've been able to get to a vantage point that we think is a little less than 2000 yards away from the vessel itself. i'm going to just have our photo journalist, andrew crissman go right past me. we have a second camera here, operated by joe merkel. he's going to train and his camera in as closest he can as well. there you get. probably the best view that we're going to have. this thing for awhile now this is the nearly 1,000 foot-long cargo vessel, the dalai that collided with the bridge. and you can and see the entire middle section of the francis scott key bridge there has basically collapsed into the baltimore harbor. you can see remnants of the bridge to the side of the boat. and if you can see just over the bow of the boat there to your right. there is part of the bridge that is lying across the bow. what we can tell you is that there are dive team that have been going into the water for the last several hours, but

the conditions for the dive teams are very treacherous, are whether people say that the water temperature here is 46 to 48 degrees fahrenheit. that is not a safe condition for divers to be in for any length of time. so they are in some dangerous conditions as they look for the possibility of finding some people in the water. what will tell you about that is that there were eight people according to officials, eight people on the bridge working construction at the time of the collapse two of them have been rescued, one of them has hurt one of them is unhurt six people on accounted for as of now. and as i think jim, you just mentioned a positive part of this is that according to the governor wes moore, they were able to the people operating the vessel were able to get a mayday signal out in the minutes before this incident? occurred and they were able to stop traffic from getting onto the bridge. there were a few cars that were on the bridge at the time, unclear. at this point if there was anyone actually in those cars when they went into the water. so you do have vehicles that are in the water. a few of them, but not clear

whether anyone was actually in those cars or not. six people now, on accounted four and again, we'll just gonna we're going to show you as i described the scene here. look at that the entire middle section of the bridge there is gone. and you can see remnants of the bridge there. it's going to take i talked to a person who was involved in some of the excavation that's going to be taking place here over the next couple of days. he said it's going to take at least two or three days just to get floating cranes and other excavation equipment here to remove some of this. and this is outside of the rescue operations that are going on right now, jim and as we pan to our left here, i'm going to show andrew crispin's going to show you the port of baltimore as we pan down here. that's a green vessel over there to your, to your right. that is a car that's a vessel that carries cars in an out of the baltimore harbor. all of these vessels are now trapped in the harbor. nothing can get in and out. it's only one way in, one way out of the baltimore harbor, you've got however many vessels we don't even know yet are trapped inside the baltimore harbor. so

this is a huge disruption of commerce that could extend into the billions of dollars in the next few days, jim, traffic is completely stopped coming in and out of this harbor yeah. >> brian, i mean, and that was one of the questions that was jumping out to me as are you seeing any shipping traffic going in and out of the harbor right now i would have to think it's basically come to a screeching halt. i don't know if you'd been across that key bridge before, but i have it is a very important big bridge in the baltimore area and to have all those pieces of that bridge and the water, i would have to think everything is going to be coming to a stop for weeks until they pull those pieces out of the water, make it safe for those ships to navigate through there and so on. i mean, this is going to be a massive undertaking >> it really is jim. and to answer your first question, no, there have been no vessels of any size other than rescue and recovery vessels. and you can see one just on the other side of the bridge. this was an outgoing vessel, by the way,

the bow is pointing out baltimore harbor. this way, chesapeake bay is that way. this was an outgoing vessel jim, no, vietnam vessel traffic aside from rescue vessels and recovery vessels. and you can see one on the other side of that bridge. so nothing coming in and out of here and you're right, this bridge very, very important for interstate commerce in traffic and also hazmat transportation going north and south. so that has completely stopped. again, the disruption economically here you can't even fathom it at this point because they're just kind of trying to assess now how long it's going to take. some of the recovery and salvage equipment just to get here. that's going to take days so of course what we have to think about right now is the recovery of people in the water. we know that there are six people now on accounted for. that's where the dive teams are working over. my right shoulder. over there, you can kinda see them in the distance. there are at least some of the vessels that they're operating from jim. so it gets really it's a real calamity here and it's gonna be felt for days and weeks yeah.

>> and brian, i mean, that was the other question i was going to get to is just looks so eerily quiet where you are right now and you could, i suppose you could make out a little bit of that search and rescue operation. but i have to assume it's going to take time. i mean, we're we understand the ntsb is rushing one of their go teams to the scene as we speak. but it's just going to take time much of the day for officials there to get their arms around the full scale of what we're dealing with here. >> absolutely it will gym and many of these vessels that are coming to the site here are coming from other places along the east coast. we know that there is some salvaging equipment that some other some of that type of equipment coming from south of here in virginia where they were working on the hairy nice bridge, which is south of here near the chesapeake bay in virginia. that's going to take a couple of days for them to get here. it's again, it's going to take days several days just for some of these vessels to get here to try to again, just pull what i was told also,

jim is just to get some of this stuff out of the water. they've got to cut that into several pieces. the this bridge that are in the water, they've got to cut it into several pieces just to get it out. and again, it's right. the equipment that is going to be used to do that is not going to be here for several days. so it kind of gives you an idea of what people are up against here. the priority is of course, finding people in the water right now. and again, you can kind of, we can kind of train in our cameras to see some of the vessels buzzing around this vessel here. but it really is just it's a monumental task. just to try to recover what is left of this and then try to find people and try to get commerce going again, but it's going to take a while >> it absolutely is brian, i mean, we're showing some of the pictures earlier this morning and you can see pieces of the key bridge on top of that ship laying on top of the cargo containers, on top of that ship. i mean, it is going to take multiple different types of equipment to go in there and

pull this thing apart to get things going again, i wanna go to pete muntean, who is also standing by live. where's tom former by the way, is also standing by live. he has so some graphics to show us, to illustrate the full scale of all of this. but i want to go to pete muntean because pete, what we heard at the beginning of this program at around 10:00 this morning, east coast time the governor of maryland, western war was detailing some of the finer points as to how all of this took place. if you can recap for our viewers exactly how this happened, how this started appears to have started with a power outage on that massive cargo ship as it was barreling towards that big column of the key bridge. what more can you tell us >> multiple state and federal agencies now describe shipping container, ship out of control careening at about eight knots 95,000 gross tons of inertia

going straight for that piling. what happened here. and you could see the ship still behind me in the potencies go river there is it veered off of the shipping lane? the channel there in the center of the potassium coming out of the port of baltimore and you can see in some of the video, starting at about 01:25, this morning, the lights on the boat essentially going on the blink, the lights went out once for an extended period of time. they came back on and then they went out in the video again for another time. >> there >> was a puff of smoke from the back of the boat and at about three minutes before that first blink of light that are after the first blink of light, that was what led to the collision. and about 01:28 a.m. local time here, you could see what is left of the bridge. this truss bridge, the center trust, their of the key bridge. this is the longest center truss bridge in the united states, about a eat feet long this is really interesting here, and investigators will want to know why this bridge collapse so easily of course, they will

want to know also though what was happening on the bridge of the boat. i spoke to maryland transportation secretary paul, whelan felt he says a pilot was in charge of the boat. that is somebody who comes it's onto the boat with local knowledge to help the crew and the captain guide this boat through this narrow channel here. and then not get it onto shore or lower depth where it's about 20 feet just off of the length. so the pilot was in command over the boat we know that officially, it is unclear exactly what the chain of radio calls war. we do know that a mayday called took place and that is really significant because the mayday call really underscores the fact that they were able to get some cars from continuing onto the bridge according to maryland governor for wes moore. and he says that radio call was the real heroic action, which led to even fewer casualties. here, we know the latest now is that eight people

were on top of this bridge doing deck work, pothole repair work. the most of them are contractors for the state. six of them are still missing to have been accounted four one is currently in the hospital, one no longer needs treatment, is out of the hospital. so the search is really, really the big thing to underscore here what is also just beginning is the investigation and the national transportation safety board at the top of the hour likely to brief us here on the dundalk side of the bridge, we will hear from ntsb chair jennifer for homendy. this is so critical because this is something that the ntsb will deal with from time to time. their bridge collapses and there are maritime incidents. they deal the intersection of those pretty regularly, not as much as they deal with accidents when it comes to aviation, but the ntsb will want to know exactly what took place on the bridge there. what was the nature of the failure? earlier? we? know it was some sort of power failure, but what does that entail if the power is laws, does that mean that you can't move the bow of the boat left and right are the stone or the boat, but left and right, this 950 foot longboat

really requires bow thrusters. it's not just something that can be moved by a rudder. so this is really, really significant and they will want to know exactly what took place there. of course, they will be interviewing the pilot, the local pilot here who was on board this ship, the ship, but then also the rest of the crew that was onboard the ship not a small feat, getting a boat in and out of this size into a port as small as this. and let's remember that this is a spot going straight toward the inner harbor of baltimore. so this is not just a commercial shipping lane. this is also typically filled with pleasure craft on the weekends here in maryland, i've sailed under the key bridge. i've driven cross it. this is really, really crucial. and the fact that this is now down in the middle of the podoroska river is a huge deal >> absolutely. pete, it is such an important part of the chesapeake bay area, the washington, dc, baltimore area

thank you, pete, for laying all of that out for us. we appreciate want to go over to tom form. and tom. i mean, one of the i mean, pete was talking about the mayday call that saved so many lives. the fact that this happened at 01:30 in the morning also saved a lot of lives because this is a very big important artery for the dc baltimore area big metropolitan area? >> absolutely. no matter what they may find about the key bridge and it's deficiencies or strings or whatever it was hit by a monumental amount of force. think about this ship from tip to tip. it's not a lot shorter than the chrysler building in new york if you want to think of it that way and laid sideways tremendous, tremendous amount of weight here. the empty ship is almost 100,000 tons and when you put all this on and of course goes much, much, much higher than that. so we do know this now when we look at this and i think that investigators now have to be looking very closely at the movement as it left breezy point up here, there were two tugboats guiding it

out. when you look at maritime guidance here, they broke off right about here. >> the ship >> was doing about three miles an hour here, about nine miles an hour here it was steadily gaining speed. but what i want you to really look at is this little part right here where it seems to bend a tiny bit that matters, because if we look at navigational maps of the area, tiny, hard to look at right here. look right down here. this is the proper channel that they would go through. this is if they're following everything the way they wanted to with a tugboats, you see it, it's almost like a highway on the water. they come right down here not over here, not over here, right down the middle. that's what they're supposed to do. but if we go back to that map from a minute ago, if you line it all up and trace it through what you can see is when that little bend happens here, which i'm going to put it about a half-mile from the river that gives them all very loose math here. but let's say three minutes to put up a warning. if they knew they had a problem here. anything less

less time. but if you follow the original line here, if they were on the channel here if you go straight and you market based on that navigational map, this is where they were supposed to be right there. >> and >> they were headed toward the right edge of that, at least up until here it appears. and then somewhere here about a half-mile out, they seem to drift off. that's where i think investigators are going to look very closely, jim. >> yeah, tom, i mean, i've been voting around the chesapeake bay bridge and you've got to follow all of that stuff to a t or there's going to be big trouble and just very quickly, just let our viewers know at home, there were safety problems with this particular ship in its, in its recent history is not it does not have a clean safety record. >> there had been questioned about now how much those come into play or don't come into play? we don't know. but you're absolutely right when you talk about the channel in here it's it's a remarkable thing when you're following this channel all the way up to the opening of the chesapeake, which is quite far out there. there are areas where these giant cargo ships have only three feet of clearance off the

bottom. that's why they have to stay in that channel because it's very closely proscribed. don't look at all this water and say it can go everywhere. it can't. >> it needs >> to go right here. and it didn't. and the question of why is the number one question of the right there for investigators? >> all right. tom, very important information. thank you very much. and we should note the ntsb will be giving a press conference at around noon today. we'll bring that to your library to gather more details on what led to this disaster or brian todd is on a boat in a the a river close to the site of this disaster or pete muntean, gabe cohen also down there on the scene as well. we'll check back in with them and we'll have all for this for you after you come right back after a quick recap, you right back >> if you work in spaceflight, this is just the worst possible i can never happen >> my dad died doing what he loved.

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they had to go through in terms of a rescue operation overnight. he was saying that they mainly we're focusing on a surface rescue operation. i suppose that's because they were just looking for a heads poking out of the water at that hour, but tell us a little bit more about what people might have been going through during all of this. >> yeah, i heard that interview, jim and he also mentioned the fact that it was that the complicating efforts was the fact that it was dark, but also the fact that it's just dangerously cold within the water to water as well across the operatives key river, 48 degree temperatures. in fact, that's what the closest baltimore harbor temperature gauge is actually reading. here's the sixth 95 corridor. there's the key bridge that collapsed overnight roughly about 01:30. we're entering into, i believe, about the 10th hour since this event occurred last night? and when we look at the reality of this situation humans susceptible to this type of water temperature

can only sustain motor functions for so long and survivability is roughly between one to three hours in perhaps the people are experiencing now in terms of the rescue, search and rescue operations that are still ongoing, there also being complicated. not only below the surface of the water where we talked about how difficult conditions are in there, but the changing tides and the changing currents across the chesapeake bay and into the tip ski river region just outside of baltimore this is creating dangerous rip currents, for instance. this change in tide means that the potential here exists for just kind of difficult conditions trying to get those search and rescue boats into a safe place in and around the collapsed bridge. we are approaching low tide at about 03:10 this evening, and then we'll start that high tide cycle once again as we get into the overnight period. and then to further complicate this, jim, we've got an approaching cold front, which means that wins will start to pick up in advance of this. so

it could make conditions along the waterways they're even more choppy. so interesting to see what brian todd is experiencing out there as well >> all right. let me get back to bryan, todd brian, you're there on the water in a boat looking at what looks like a very quiet seen behind you, i think part of that obviously is because that harbor has just been shut down. but what more can you tell us what more do you see right now >> right, jim, it's kinda deceptive. it's quiet, but there's still a lot of activity here. we've been able to creep a little bit closer to the dalai. and the point of impact there you can see it right there. i mean, i'm guessing we're about 1,000 yards away from it, maybe we a little bit more, but we can see a lot of boats coming back and forth. these are rescue boats, these are recovery boats. there's no ship traffic, as you mentioned, that part of it is quiet. there's so he vessel traffic coming in and out of fear and there may not be for days, but i can kind of describe to you basically what

you're looking at the entire middle section of that bridge is collapsed in the water. you can see remnants of it there as we get a little closer, are cameras can train in to not only the police and other rescue boats that are buzzing around the ship, but you can see the bow of the vessel there to the right and that is part of the bridge that is actually lying across the bow of the vessel there. and you can see the damage on the side of the vessel and that's partly probably bridge damage as well. this was a complete calamity at about 01:30 this morning is we've been mentioning the fortunate part is that whoever was operating the boat at the time was able to get a mayday signal out. so they were able to stop vehicle traffic and other traffic from getting onto the bridge. that's very fortunate that could have saved many lives right now, as we know, six people on accounted for. and again, we can show you the rescue operations going on over my right shoulder here well, we can train some of our cameras in a lot of boats coming in and out that way. but these are smaller vessels, of course, dive teams have been in the water here for several

hours. you just heard derek mentioned, though these are not healthy conditions for divers or anyone else in the water for very long. so they've got to monitor that as well the disruption to commerce is significant because one other thing we can tell you about this bridge. this is one of the venues where hazmat material can travel up and down the east coast. they do not allow hazmat material to go into baltimore's tunnels, which is where a lot of the the other vehicle traffic goes in and out. of course, as they as they move around baltimore. but hazmat material can go over this bridge and it's unclear whether there's gonna be another avenue for that material to travel up and down the east coast. so again, it's a real point of disruption here. some of the other vessels you can see over there, we have a coast guard vessel here that it's just to your left, my right. we can kind of pan over. are photojournalists and crissman is going to give you a shot of that. and andrew can also i think show you this green vessel over here. what we're told us that that is a large container vessel for

vehicles for cars coming in and out of the point, the port of baltimore, it would have been a getting ready to leave and pick up cars from another port, but it cannot move. that's these are some of the main shipping terminals in the port of baltimore that basically have come, to a standstill and there are other, other terminals over there toward the city of baltimore is we can show you that are basically at a standstill. so everything that is in this harbor right now, jim is trapped. it cannot get in or out. so that is a huge disruption at this point. >> all right. brian, todd. thank you. and i just want to just point out just the last several minutes. we did get some new information about the ship. apparently dropped its anchor prior to hitting the bridge as part of its emergency procedures after losing propulsion, that is coming in from the maritime and port authority of singapore and so we're going to have, obviously there's new information coming in every moment of this morning as all of this is unfolding, where to get back to pete muntean, who is of course on top with this. stay with us on

all of that. but in the meantime, we want to get back to her other very important story that's happening today. reproductive rights back on the docket at the supreme court with the most significant abortion case since roe versus wade was overturned nearly two years ago, the high court is hearing oral arguments in a case that could restrict access to the widely used it's abortion, drugs, mifepristone, even in states where the procedure is still allow the pill is one of two drugs used in reproductive health care just last year, research shows it was used in 63% of all abortions nationwide. the highly divisive issue has prompted protesters to gather outside the supreme court and you can see some of them. there. they're chanting, carrying signs and the nine justices now have to decide if the if the fda overstepped its authority by making it easier to access this drug, the drug which is widely known to be safe in the medical community moments ago, justice ketanji brown jackson addressed whether doctors can consciously object to administering the drug

let's listen to a portion of that counsel me, ask you about the remedy and sort of the way that i was talking with the sg. i mean, it makes perfect sense for the individual doctors to seek an exemption but as i understand it, they already had that and so what they're asking for here is that in order to prevent them from possibly ever having to do these kinds of procedures? everyone else should be prevented from getting access to this medication. so why isn't that plainly overbroad scope of the remedy, the end of this case so with respect to the premise of that question, justice jackson, i don't think our doctors necessarily are able to object for two reasons. one of this this is the emergency nature of these procedures. as the fda acknowledges, many women do go to the emergency room. and if we just think about what that

might look like, take dr. francis she's on the labor and delivery floor supervisor. no, i'm sorry. i don't want to hypothesize. tell me in her declaration where she talks about not being able to object or pose a conscientious objection. >> she talks about, your honor, being and i mean, can you point me to any place in the declarations were declared? clarett states that they attempted to object, but were unable to know, your honore, for two reasons. once these are emergency situations, respondent doctors don't necessarily know until they scrub into that operating room whether this may or may not be abortion drunk harm, it could be a miscarriage. it could be an ectopic pregnancy or it could be an elective abortion, your honor. in addition, the government simply cannot get it story straight on intel. if you look at the district court brief in that case, we just heard that the church amendment applies. and what we've been love for this court to adopt that position. they told the district court the very opposite. all right. let me ask you this. if we were to find that there are conscientious

objections that say hostile but it will take them into account in these doctors do have a way to not do these kinds of procedures should we end this case on that basis? >> no, your honor. we would welcome that holding, but it's not broad enough to remedy. are doctors harm why? because these are emergency his actuations. they can't waste precious moments of scrubbing in. >> i don't know. i'm saying i'm saying assuming we have a world in which they can actually lodge the objections that you say that they have my question is, isn't that enough to remedy their issue do we have to also entertain your argument that no one else in the world can have this drug or no one else in america should have this drug in order to protect your clients. >> so again, your honor, it's not possible given the emergency nature of the city actuations are unseen. cnn chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid is live outside the supreme court for us. paula, a very

consequential case following the dobbs decision, obviously, that's why we're talking about this today. tell us about these ongoing arguments, how the justices are focusing on those arguments. and i suppose you're getting a lot of tells in terms of the breakdown of the court >> yeah. at those point, a majority of the justices appeared skeptical of the question of standing. does this group of anti-abortion doctors and advocates? have this standing or the right to bring this lawsuit that's what most of the hearing so far has been focused on and jim, even though this is of course an incredibly consequential high-stakes issue, but legally and politically, this is sort of an off-ramp for the justices if they decide that, look, you don't have standing. they don't even have to get into the larger questions about restricting access it's a now, the group that brought this lawsuit, they argue that they do have standing because they say they could be called to offer medical treatment to someone who has had complications from mifepristone something that they would object to, but the government dismisses that saying, look, you don't have have any real

harm here. this is completely hypothetical and have asked the justice department to quote, put an end to this case now, the most of the first few questions that even the conservative justices add a this hearing were about this issue of standing. let's take a listen to what justice alito wanted to know >> could you provide a more specific answer to the first question that justice thomas asked you. is there anybody who could challenge in court the lawfulness of what the fda did here in this particular case. i think the answer is no. >> well, that wasn't my question. is there any somebody who can do that? >> let's >> start with the states that intervened below >> does this leto clearly does not like the idea that no one would have standing here, but it appears that whatever opinion did we get likely in late june, we'll focus on this question of standing now as of a few moments ago, the conservative advocacy group was up and they were facing of questions both from conservative and liberal justices about this question of

standing with jim. we also heard from a lawyer for a drug manufacturer, dan koh that manufacturers mifepristone. and there were a lot of questions, especially from conservative justices about the limits or oversight for the fda's regulatory authorities. because this is a case that has far-reaching implications potentially, not just for people who want mifepristone before the fda and other medications that it has approved so this definitely one of the biggest cases on the docket, this term absolutely. >> another flashpoint in the culture wars in this country, in particularly over abortion rights. paula reid thank you very much. let's continue this conversation with our panel, cnn medical correspondent meg tirrell, cnn chief legal analyst laura coates, and cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, elliott williams. make let me start with you because there's been a lot of discussion at the high court today about the safety of mifepristone, how safe is it? break that down for our viewers? my understanding is that it is highly safe. >> yeah. i mean, this is a drug that's been on the market in the united states since 2000. in other countries, since a

decade plus, even before that. so there's a lot of data about the use of these vacations. they're 95 to 98% effective. and the side effect rate is something like 0.3%. we also know from studies that use via telehealth, which is an increasingly popular way to get these medications since has been shown to be as safe and effective as getting these medications in person out. there's a lot of questions here about whether changes in this case or when to change the way people need to report side effects to the fda, or even eliminate the need to report side effects to the fda. that seems to be missing the overall point the fda is monitoring side effects constantly, hospitals are reporting side effects every drug that's out there. if they come about, the fda pulls drugs off the market. if they see in the data in the real-world that they are not safe or even if they have not borne out in clinical trials to be effective. so there's a lot of questions here about is the fda infallible there are a lot of already mechanisms in place around the fda and how it works with medicines. >> and laura coates, i mean,

how significant is this case in the grand scheme of things? obviously, because of the dobbs decision we're talking about this today and depending on how this case is ultimately decided, you could see a further chipping away at abortion rights in the united states. >> this is about access, access to one of the parts of a two dose regimen have medication. abortion was compromised, was comprises more than half, i think of abortions in this country, american medication abortions. this about whether or not you're going to have access to this drug. now, there's already been some course corrections. i'm metal gop and they're going to use just one of the drugs instead of mifepristone, which is not the most effective strategy you can tell me if i'm wrong about this 90, 90% craig wright which was it's problem nomadic. the other part of this is that it has very sweeping consequences. remember the dobbs decision said, this ought to go back to the states. well, the states are divided nearly half had these bands. the other talk about putting in place ways to protect reproductive rights. and so we're turning to the states would not be an issue. the supreme court ruled in this it's way it would have the

nationwide consequences of it. it would have an impact on miscarriage care. it would have an impact on being able to shut down telemedicine in this area about being able to make it only available up to the seven mark as opposed to ten week mark or even the 12 under the will tell organizations global decision about how long you could actually prescribe and use it and so this has really big conference, but mostly they can i just apply their logic to one drug if they think the fda is problematic, well, there's a whole lot of drugs out there in the market right now that would fall victim as well. >> yeah. you have to wonder what the implications are for the pharmaceutical industry in this country. and elliott, i mean what stands out to you in these arguments this morning, what we are hearing from the justices, you do get a sense of the conservative supermajority in that breakdown. that's on the high court right now. sort of unmistakable. so a few things. one, so picking up on that last point, were the supreme court to rule sort of limiting or curtailing access to mifepristone. that'd be i believe the first time that the supreme court with respect to

the fda stepped into the administration and distribution of a particular drug drugs. so it would be quite historic in that sense. now, the thing that really stands out to me and this was the clip that i placed second ago is standing and this idea of who is actually harmed, it's just so people understand it's it's. a critical element of the law. one needs to be injured in order to bring a lawsuit. and so an example, if i were to go outside and c2 people assaulting each other, it may bother me. i may not like it, but i can't sue one of them. for assault. i was not the person who was harmed even if i disagreed with what had happened, there, only those two people have the ability to do so. here, the argument being made, and i think the justices are starting to pick up on it and agree with a little bit is the idea that none of these organizations who brought this lawsuit, were harmed in any way. and this was justice alito's question. well, who could and i guess the question is, well, maybe nobody for this particular students. so it'll be interesting to see what the court doesn't that and meg >> per stones use really

skyrocketed during covid. >> i >> mean, that is one of the aspects of all of this is that its use went up during covid. a lot of telehealth goes on in this country three and mifepristone was being i guess i post dobbs being sent to the states where perhaps abortion had been restricted rather significantly, which i'm i'm sure fired up the anti-abortion forces out there and i have to assume that that's part of the reason why we're here today listening to these arguments. >> yeah. i mean, with dobbs, of course the access to abortion in the us was severely limited 14 states have almost banned abortion completely outright. those states technically, folks living there are not allowed to have medication abortions either. there are groups outside the united states. one is called eight access that it's one of the main ones that we'll send medication abortion, and they have told us that they will continue to send medication abortion to women on patients who need it, regardless of whatever happens at the supreme court, because they believe in this access or outside the us, the fda has asked them to stop and they've said, we're not going to stop. they're going to keep going. what this

>> shows is how open the can print the door the supreme court opened after dobbs to a world of legal questions over who has access to abortion weeks during pregnancy? it may happen. >> birth >> control, medical, medical abortion morning after pill. anything else is an open legal question? questions about contraceptive care? yeah i mean, that's what was the concern about dobbs is that it opens get up a pandora's box, but they reference a 1s point, the comstock act. this is 19th century regulations as you cannot mail things that are elicit or moral obscene in some way. there are those who believed that these very drugs would qualify in that category, but that was again in 19th century law that we don't want to insulate venture back to. but the real issue here you're thinking about all of it is at its core. they are not going to try to decide this case on whether they think abortion ought to be legal or not. they're going to try to look at this through the idea and lens up should the fda had given this authorities, or should it be rolled back, it'll be much more of an agency administrative role they want to play because i think they're well aware in this supreme

court about public sentiment, opinion and the idea of forum shopping to get a particular result on an issue that is very, very dynamic and very, very controversial, very much on the minds of voters are heading into this general election cycle. laura meg elliott great discussion, very important issue are thanks to paula reid outside the supreme court as well coming up next more on the breaking news, president biden expected to address the baltimore bridge collapsed in just a short while from now, we'll bring you the latest on all of this after a quick break >> the needs a safe space >> you have a show were right and left talk to cnn presents an encore presentation of hbo's real time with bill maher said editing it eight on cnn >> life diabetes, there's no slowing down. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do that's why you choose glissando to help manage blood sugar response uniquely

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