philip hamilton is a defense attorney, has litigated cases before judge juan merchan, they both join me now. it is great to have you here. let me start with you as a practicing defense attorney and to practice before judge juan merchan, you practiced in new york state. bradley, you are not in the courtroom but you been reading the transcripts and the coverage, how you think the defense is doing this week. >> the defense is working with what they can, chris. in that respect, i'm going to give them some credit because they don't have a lot to work with. >> you don't think so ? >> with respect to david pecker, what they have done, but this comes out in class today, the phrase "standard operating procedure." with respect to how "the national enquirer" works, picking town that has many payments are just for trump, these go across the board . with respect to celebrities of all kinds. breaking down the business model of "the national enquirer", in the sense that sometimes they will buy the stories to leverage celebrities and keep it quiet, other times they will buy it for their own profits.