when norman morrison set himself on fire. just 40 feet from the office of the secretary of defense, robert mcnamara, he watched the entire thing unfold, and he said that he was affected by it for the rest of his life. morrison was a quaker, and an opponent of the war in vietnam and lake erin bush. now, this was not an act of suicide, but a seriously considered political statement. even more interesting, daniel's work said that mcnamara himself was horrified and affected by morrison's action. i'm not sure how we can actually quantify something like that, but historically, how does one measure the effectiveness of the active self immolation? maybe a better way to ask this is how somebody can do something like setting himself or herself on fire and then not have it be done in vain. well, i think it has to do with the, with what happens next or the kind of the political climate in south vietnam. most people were unhappy with the government. they did not like the fact that the government saw the people as the and mediate, not like