while i was there, i met the famous paleontologist, louis leakey, and he gave me an opportunity to study not just any animal, but the one most like us, the chimpanzee. i would have studied a mouse if i could be out in the african bush. [laughter] david: leakey was the famous paleontologist who came up with the theory that humans pretty much evolved out of southern africa and was famous for that. did you get to know him? dr. goodall: very well. i told you i had to do that boring secretarial course. when i heard about him and went to see him, his secretary had just left, and he needed a secretary. there i was. [laughter] i'm right now surrounded by people who could answer my questions about the animals and birds and everything. david: at one point, you said, i really want to go live with the chimpanzees. dr. goodall: no, i didn't. [laughter] david: ok. as i said, you did not say that. what did you say? dr. goodall: i told him i really wanted to study animals. david: ok. dr. goodall: for some reason, although i had not been to college, he believed i could do it. he had been looking for some