for 14 years they've been paying this guy and he is a trusted source, when christopher steele lied to the fbi about president trump, he gets paid more. when smirnov lies to the fbi about president biden, he gets indicted. go figure. it doesn't change the fundamental facts. >> those are not true. >> the things i just said are absolutely true. did joe biden condition the reese of tax money? yes, all four of those things are facts, absolutely. >> what do you make of smirnov connections to high-level? russia >> we will find out. when scott brady, u.s. attorney in pittsburgh, when we talk to him, he said he thought the head credibility. we will have to see. >> when we ask rob walter who is the big guy, he said i don't know. i think everyone knows who the big guy is. [indiscernible] >> i'm not saying that at all. i'm just saying it doesn't change the underlying facts. crus ray didn't want to let us have the form because he is such a valuable source. really, this is your valuable source? holy cow.