. >> did you know about china's biological weapons program, the ctp academy of military medical science? >> i can't speak to individual institutions and would have to go back -- >> you are the secretary of state, this is important stuff. can't tell what the ccp is complying with, the bio weapons treaty obligation, can't tell us whether you know about china's offensive biological weapons program. are you familiar with the fact that the academy of military medical sciences work with the wuhan institute of virology who received money from the united states of america particularly the state department, defense department, usaid, nih, are you familiar with that? >> i'm familiar with the fact that as a practical matter there is little difference between purportedly private organizations and the state and the factor that there was collaboration between this particular institute including the chinese military, no surprise. one of the reasons it is helpful that we have programs. the cdc, in places like wuhan to have a better understanding -- >> i know you are concerned. are you familiar with the