[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight, james spader. from "goodbye christopher robin," actor domhnall gleeson. author ladee hubbard. featuring the 8g band with joe russo. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] wonderful to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. president trump met with former secretary of state, henry kissinger today in the oval office. either that, or the sequel to "up" looks terrible. [ laughter ]

the "new yorker" today released audio of fired hollywood movie producer, harvey weinstein, begging a model to come into his room to watch him shower. and by the looks of him, i'm guessing that shower never happened. [ laughter ] i mean the rest of us need one. [ applause ] white house press secretary, sarah huckabee sanders today, said that president trump's comment that he had a higher i.q. than secretary of state rex tillerson, was a joke, and told reporters they should get a sense of humor. they should get a sense of humor! [ laughter ] you're the one who always looks like she just found a joint in her son's bible. [ laughter and applause ] n

[ light laughter ] president trump tweeted this morning, quote, why is the nfl getting massive tax breaks while at the same time disrespecting our anthem, flag, and country? change tax law! why are you yelling at us to do things you have the power to do yourself? [ cheers and applause ] please! let me make something clear! we are not your alexa! [ light laughter ] you change the tax law! white house speaker, paul ryan, will visit puerto rico this friday. wow. first trump gave them paper towels. now he's giving them a wet blanket. [ laughter ] you're saved. a cnn anchor said yesterday that senator bob corker's recent criticism of president trump was his way of planting seeds to call into question trump's fitness for office. you're just now planting seeds? i think it's harvest time! [ laughter ]

[ cheers and applause ] during a radio interview last night, former chicago bears coach, mike ditka, weighed in on the recent national anthem protest. ditka said, "there has been no oppression in the last 100 years that i know of. if you don't respect our country, then you shouldn't be in this country playing football. go to another country and play football." here to comment is one of our writers, amber ruffin. [ cheers and applause ] >> thanks, seth! now, former chicago bears' coach, mike ditka, said, "there hasn't been any oppression in the last 100 years." which officially makes him daa-worst! 70% of nfl players are black! how can you work with so many black people and not know them? seth knows me! seth, what do i do with my free time? >> seth: you watch "scandal" and pretend you're olivia pope. [ light laughter ] >> yep. and what is my favorite food? >> seth: your favorite food is margar.

and what is it like to be a black person in america? >> seth: that is not something i as a white person am qualified to talk about. but -- [ cheers and applause ] from what i can glean, not great? [ light laughter ] >> that is the correct answer! and if you think things are going great for black people, you're on daa-wrong side of history! [ laughter ] mike ditka, what do you know about oppression? you won one super bowl in 1986, and they gave you your own steakhouse! [ light laughter ] charles barkley was one of the greatest basketball players of all-time and all he got was fat! [ laughter ] you think no bad things have happened to black people for 100 years? charlottesville happened this summer! and then, again, three days ago!

ditka also said, "if you want to kneel during the national anthem, you should go to another country and play football." what other country? we're the only ones dumb enough to spend our sundays wearing tights and giving each other brain damage. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] look, jerry jones threatened to bench players who protest the national anthem. that is a white man threatening his black players with punishment if they exercise their right to free speech! which can be found in daa-constitution! [ cheers and applause ] daa-constitution. i think it's not all the way there. daa-constitution! is it right? >> seth: it's daa-fine. [ laughter ] >> in summary, mike ditka believes that all players should

stand for the national anthem. and i'm sure they will! as soon as the anthem stands for all players. daa-end! [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: daa-end! amber ruffin, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] president trump gave an exclusive interview to "forbes" and teased a new economic development bill that he says is both a carrot and a stick. incidentally, carrot and stick are also trump and melania's secret service code names. [ laughter ] carrot is on the move. carrot is on the move. he's in a golf cart. stick is angry. [ laughter ] according to reports, white house aide stephen miller tried to run in a girl's track event while he was in high school, in order to prove men are better athletes than women. totally forgetting that seeing

stephen miller just makes women run faster. [ laughter and applause ] ikea has released its first collection of furniture designed specifically for pets. although if i can't figure out how to put it together, i don't see how they will. [ light laughter ] that's a joke. [ applause ] that's a joke about how ikea is confusing and pets are stupid. [ laughter ] today was world porridge day, and oh, no, he's throwing that into a crowd too! [ light laughter ] "you've been through so much. have some porridge." and finally, a mcdonald's location in finland is testing a limited edition vegan burger, or as it's also known at mcdonald's, a sad meal. [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a fantastic show for you tonight! from nbc's "the black list," he's one of our favorites.

show. [ cheers and applause ] he's starring in the new film, "goodbye christopher robin." he's a fantastic actor. domhnall gleeson is here. [ cheers and applause ] and her first novel, "the talented ribkins," is fantastic. ladee hubbard joins us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] so, you're here on a good one. before we get to all that, you know, i'm in my 40s now. i'm married, i have a child. but nothing, and i mean nothing, makes me feel older than when i don't know the new slang terms that teenagers are using. and it seems like these teen slang terms, these new ones are evolving so fast, it's hard to keep up. so as a service to you, we decided to give you a little primer on new teen slang in a segment we call "seth explains teen slang." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: our first new teen slang term is "field trippin'." this is when you take drugs during a class trip. [ laughter ] for example, "i'm pretty sure 's

just walked up to a diorama and told the cave woman her eyebrow game is on fleek." [ light laughter ] our next term is gary-mandering. this is when you rearrange the seats in the cafeteria in such a way that gary can't sit at your table. [ laughter ] for example, "gary's new retainer makes him spit when he chews, so we gary-mandered our table and now he has to sit with the d and d kids." our next new teen slang term is pumpkin spice. let's see what it means. it's someone you haven't seen since last fall and are sick of almost immediately. [ laughter and applause ] here it is in a sentence. "i was so excited to see kevin last week, but after an hour, i remembered he was actually unappealing and gross. #pumpkinspice." [ light laughter ] next up, we have side salad. let's see what it means. it's when you cheat on your boyfriend with someone who is much better for you. [ laughter ] here it is in a sentence.

"i like that devin's a bad boy, but every once in a while, it's nice to spend a weekend with my side salad, tim, who is on the honor roll and not addicted to pain killers." [ laughter and applause ] this next one, very, very useful. it's civil war portrait. this is when your mom takes way too long to take a photo. [ laughter ] for example, "mom still doesn't know how to use her iphone camera. she spent 20 minutes asking, is the flash on, and then took eight selfies. #civilwarportrait. [ applause ] up next, we have dadderall. this is when your dad says something to you that keeps you up all night. [ light laughter ] for example, "i'm on no sleep, because right before bed my dad said, 'son, you know how we've been saving money for you to go to college? well, you know what, never mind, we'll talk about it tomorrow.' that dadderall kept me awake all night." [ applause ]

this next one's really taken off with the teens. it's david schwimmer. here's the definition. the kid at school who only shops at the department store ross. [ light laughter ] for example, "jake says he can't shop for clothes unless he's digging through stacks of t-shirts and piles of quicksilver sandals on the ground. boo-yah david schwimmer." by far my favorite one. [ laughter ] which i guess is why i'm the guy in his 40s. [ light laughter ] coming up next, it's rex tillerson. this is someone who is doing everything they can to get fired. for example, "brandon went full rex tillerson yesterday. he walked into his job at starbucks 20 minutes late wearing no shirt and called his boss a [ bleep ] moron." [ laughter and applause ] still there, though. still here. next up, it's fraudka. here's the definition. what's left when you steal your parents' liquor and top the

[ laughter ] for example, "my parents are hosting a dinner party saturday. and i'm totally going to get busted when they discover that all we've got in the bar is fraudka and faker's mark. [ laughter ] #mostlywater. [ applause ] our last new teen slang term is brady brunch. let's see what it means. it's when you move two large tables of people together while having brunch. for example, "we were four guys eating brunch, and we saw four girls at a separate table. we pushed the two tables together, and that's the way we all became the brady brunch. the brady brunch. the brady brunch. that's the way we became the brady brunch." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ that was "seth explains teen slang." we'll be right back with james spader, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. please give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] also, back with us tonight on drums, he's played with phil lesh and bob weir as well as one of my favorite vocalists, craig finn. be sure to check out an in depth article on his band joe russo's

relix magazine. joe russo, everybody. thank you so much for being here. [ cheers and applause ] >> my pleasure. >> seth: our first guest tonight is a three-time emmy award winning actor who stars as raymond reddington in the very popular series "the black list." new episodes air wednesday night at 8:00 right here on nbc. let's take a look. >> well, harvey's plane is supposed to land here in four hours. if i were throwing a picnic, it'd be lovely, but there are trees. >> the runway will be ready. >> tell that wizard the mcclintock boys are here. where the hell is he? we need the shovels and chainsaws! >> shovels and chainsaws. >> tell her to button her lip. i've got shovels and chainsaws. >> smokey, if this doesn't work. >> mr. reddington, i need you to trust me on this. we are going to belly that gun-runner's plane in that the field so help me god. i just need 45 minutes to get leroy and quackers there. we'll jive then, my friend. >> who the hell are leroy and quackers? >> seth: please welcome back to the show, our friend james spader, everybody. ♪ [ cheers andla

>> seth: how are you? >> good. >> seth: it's always so wonderful to see you. >> thank you. >> seth: congratulations on another season. it feels like this season has a lighter tone in a nice way. do you enjoy that? >> you know, i mean, he's sort of hit rock bottom. >> seth: uh-huh. >> and he's enjoying every minute of it. >> seth: that's great. [ light laughter ] i mean, it seems as an actor you must enjoy -- >> he has to be sort of talked into going back to work. and they have to sort of -- he really -- it's supposed to be a period of sort of empire building, i suppose. >> seth: uh-huh. >> he's not really that interested. [ laughter ] he has to be coerced. as i do, every sunday night. >> seth: you have to be coerced every sunday night? >> yes. >> seth: yeah. so i want to ask you this. >> here's something odd, though -- >> seth: great. >> well i -- [ laughter ]

>> seth: uh-huh. >> and, you know, it's just a men's room in a hallway back there. >> seth: it's not that nice. you can say it. >> it's -- well, no. i mean, it's been updated in certain ways. it's got the automatic flush urinals. >> seth: uh-huh. >> and the automatic water. which i don't look at as being an upgrade, but it's there. the rest of the bathroom looks like it's, you know, the same since the '40s maybe or something. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> which it could very well be, the dials and things. and, oddly enough, a full-size scale with weights -- >> seth: yeah. >> that you move across. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> do you offer physicals here or something? >> seth: we don't. but it is a strange thing. because i want to stress to the viewers at home, it's not a gym bathroom. >> not at all. >> seth: it's just -- it's a bathroom -- >> it's right back there. we could all go there actually. >> seth: in an office building. yeah. >> it's right there. it's pretty close. >> seth: that is the -- >> what's the scale there for? >> seth: i don't know. i haven't -- yeah. in all these years, i -- >> so no one uses it.

>> it just is there? >> seth: um -- >> are people weighing themselves here a lot? [ laughter ] >> seth: i think there are guys who like to weigh themselves. you know, before lunch, after lunch. just to make sure -- [ laughter >>se i can -- as you can te ver often. >> but i must say, when i walked 't want to miss mi >> seth: sure. >> and then be found just sort of standing at the scale. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> and then taking my shoes off, you know. >> seth: yeah. >> take off some weight. but i regretted it after i walked out that i didn't weigh myself. >> seth: that's a bit -- i miss that. >> i do. >> seth: because now you just stand on a scale, and it gives you a number. >> well, you do. >> seth: yeah, but i like this. >> yes. >> seth: i enjoy being part of the process. >> you're not being lied to. >> seth: yeah. although you could then sort of shift. you know. back and forth.

bang. >> seth: yeah, that's true. >> sorry. >> seth: you have actually -- i like that you told us something odd, because over the years, one of my favorite things about having you on the show, you have had many odd jobs, and yet every time you're here, i discover a new one about you. you worked at a carnival. >> yes. as a matter of fact, so did the guy in that clip, smokey. >> seth: yeah. >> the guy with the elephant. >> seth: so that's why he had an elephant? >> he didn't work at a carnival, but he -- anyway. he works for a circus. but we go to the carnival to try and find him. >> seth: did that bring back memories for you? >> it did. i worked at a carnival for a very short time when i was quite young. i -- i ran the whack-the-cats. >> seth: uh-huh. is that like whack-a-mole? is that -- >> no, nothing like it at all. [ laughter ] i mean, you've seen it. the cats are like lion faces. >> seth: okay. >> and they're fabric. it's about this big. and then behind the fabric is a little board that's about this wide.

>> so soft on the sides, like that, okay? >> seth: got it. >> and then you're given baseballs, and you throw them, to try to knock the cat faces down. whack-the-cats. and -- but, of course, you miss so much because it's actually a very thin board behind the larger face. >> seth: oh, i see, it tricks you into throwing at the soft part. >> yeah, i mean you can't -- yeah, you have to hit the middle of it. anyway, i did the whack-the-cats at this carnival. i even roped a friend of mine into working at the carnival, as well. he worked the fishing well. >> seth: uh-huh. >> and it's not called a fishing well. what is it? a wishing well, maybe, or something? >> seth: uh-huh. >> anyway, but you fish for things. but anyway -- [ laughter ] it was an abysmal carnival. >> seth: really? >> i mean so bleak, but also, i worked the day shift. and so i think probably the night is the better shift to work there, maybe. >> seth: for carnivals? sure, yeah. >> i mean, i guess. >> it's not like you get tips, though. >> seth: right. >> but it's just busier, so you pass the time. >> seth: yeah. >> like, i did teach myself how to juggle, which i no longer know how to do. it would be great if i said that

i did that and then i could come out her and juggle for you all. but i can't -- but i can't even bring that to the table. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> all i have is the bathroom story. anyway -- and a clip. yeah. >> seth: you brought the clip. thank you. >> i brought the clip. someone else sent the clip. >> seth: okay, gotcha. you didn't even do that. >> i didn't even do that. >> seth: did you -- when did you know your time at the carnival was done? did you ever say -- this isn't the life for me? >> oh, yes. i used to drive up there with my buddy in my little vw bug that had no floor. and we would go there and we'd -- anyway. i would be standing there, and i'd be there for -- you know, there would be a half hour in between people coming to the whack-the-cat. yeah, it was not a very popular -- >> seth: and then you just got close to the cats, i'm imagining. >> and the prizes stunk, sort of. >> seth: yeah. >> anyway, but i was standing there one day and all of a sudden i see the guy who ran the ride that was next to me. and the ride was one of those, i don't know -- tilt-a-whirl or -- >> seth: yeah. >> cups, i don't know,et

spinning. and it was next to me there. and i used to actually pick him up hitchhiking, to come to the carnival. >> seth: so this place obviously paid real well. [ laughter ] >> it was so bleak, anyway. one day, i was staying there -- so i had gotten to know the guy, you know, pick him up hitchhiking, and all of a sudden he's walking by. this is after i've only been working there a few weeks. and he's walking by, and he's just got this sort of demoralized, look. he's sort of hanging his head, and wandering up towards the -- you know, the office. which was a shed. [ light laughter ] and headed that way. and i said, "everything all right?" and he says, "kid fell off the ride." [ laughter ] i don't even think that they heard that -- >> seth: so, a kid fell off the ride. >> fell off the ride. and, anyway, and it just -- he said it -- the way he said it, i just thought, i've got to get the hell out of here. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, it was -- the way he said it was just like -- again. >> seth: yeah.

not shock. >> no, not -- >> seth: 'cause he's been worn down. >> no, it was about the paperwork. >> seth: yeah. >> or the report or whatever the thing, you know? that he was going to have to fill out. >> seth: he had to mark, who fell off the ride, kid. >> it was a really brutal job. i didn't last very long. only a couple of months or less -- like a month or one month and a half. you know, but i had so many, you know, odd jobs and manual labor jobs. ones that were really hard. like, you know, loading and unloading freight cars and tractor-trailer trucks. i worked in a meat-packing plant, unloading slides of beef. >> seth: you had to -- >> but that job was so calcifyingly boring. it was like retail. retail -- >> seth: but it's so funny, because i feel like people write books about working at a carnival. no one writes -- they're working at the meat place. but, you're saying the meat job was better. >> well, i was busy. >> seth: yeah. >> i was working at a carnival that people weren't coming to. >> seth: yeah, that does -- >> and it was also during the day.

and doesn't a carnival live at night? >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, it was like -- it's actually like my job. television. you know, i got into this business because it was a night job. >> seth: yeah. >> and then it turned out that it wasn't. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> and that was a rude awakening. >> seth: you got ripped off. >> no pun intended. >> seth: one of these days, you're going to find a job you like, and i really hope that -- >> no, no, no. i do, i love my job. but i was counting on the later hour. >> seth: yeah, you -- >> i'm not a morning person. >> seth: yeah. >> and -- this wouldn't be bad. but you show up in the morning, don't you. >> seth: yeah, i do show up in the morning. yeah. >> count me out. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay. well, please come back again, though. give it up for james spader, everyone. "the black list" airs wednesday nights at 8:00 here on nbc. we'll be right back with domhnall gleeson. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ this this this this is my body of proof.

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest has starred in films like "the revenant," "brooklyn," and "ex machina," as well as both the "star wars" and "harry potter" franchises. his latest film, "goodbye christopher robin," will be in select theaters this friday. let's take a look. >> dad, up there in the tree. >> are we good at climbing? >> not bad. >> all right. we'll give it a go, only be careful. where there are bees, there is honey. where there is honey, there are bears. >> there are no bears in sussex. >> then what is that? oh, no. i think he's seen us. we better capture it. >> seth: please welcome to the show, domhnall gleeson, everyone! ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome to the show!

>> seth: i'm so happy to have you. congratulations. the trailer -- it's strange to congratulate someone on a trailer, but when it's a trailer for "the last jedi" people lose their minds. >> yeah, particularly strange to congratulate someone on it when they're not in the damn thing. >> seth: yeah, you were not in the trailer. >> no. >> seth: but you were great. >> thank you so much. >> seth: your absence was felt. >> i know. i'll bet it was. >> seth: you're so evil that you just could feel a pall over the trailer. >> it would have been too scary if i'd been there. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: do you -- i assume there is a shroud of secrecy on a film like that. this is your second "star wars" movie. was it the exact same as far as how little you're allowed to talk about it? >> yeah, it didn't get any better. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> disney weren't like, "yeah, whatever you want, you know?" that did not happen. >> seth: so this is a film about "winnie the pooh." the creator, a.a. milne, of "winnie the pooh." >> not "star wars." >> seth: not "star wars." >> no no. >> seth: i wish i had gotten a great spoiler from you there. [ laughter ] you cannot believe who is in the new "star wars." >> what have ie?

eeyore is on the dark side? >> of course. >> seth: oh that makes sense, yeah. [ laughter ] you had not read "winnie the pooh." that was not a book that you had ever read. >> no. no. i'm from ireland. and -- normally someone cheers in the audience when you say you're from a place. that's so weird. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i think you know -- i think they were taking issue that you were about to say why ireland doesn't have "winnie the pooh," and they were waiting. >> oh, i'm sorry. i didn't realize. yes. i had, like -- i grew up until about four or five, i probably felt as much irish as english. >> seth: oh, gotcha. >> irish language, so like there was a lot of brand the dog and things like that. >> seth: so those are your "winnie the pooh" is brand the dog? >> don't judge me. [ laughter ] >> seth: but now this worked against you, because you had not -- "winnie the pooh" had not been hammered into your psyche the way it had the rest of us. and you have a, obviously, a young co-star in that clip. the name "winnie the pooh" was funnier to you than him. is this true? >> i -- yes.

nine when we shot and my sense of humor was about six or seven. [ laughter ] >> seth: were there any scenes that were particularly tough? >> i don't know. do people like -- like, does everybody know "winnie the pooh?" like is that a -- >> seth: yes. >> yeah. sorry. [ cheers and applause ] >> a lot more than from ireland. um, yeah. they played pooh sticks in it. >> seth: uh-huh. >> which i just kept on thinking sounded like a condition, you know. [ laughter ] it's coming out like sticks, you know. so, yeah. that was tough. >> seth: yeah. >> and then will, who was like an amazing actor and a lovely young person, he's like the nicest kid you ever met and a brilliant actor. but he like -- "we need to work." you know, i would be laughing all the way up to -- yeah, we need to -- >> seth: oh, so he would take you aside and say, "hey man, this is -- we've got to --" >> you need to get your crap together. >> seth: yeah.

>> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah, yeah. yeah. >> seth: you actually got your start very young, but in sort of a unique way. your father is an actor, brendan gleeson. >> yes. >> seth: and you -- he let -- >> cheer for him, for god's sake. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: yes, please, we have to cheer for brendan. the -- >> starring in "mr. mercedes" on television now. >> seth: yeah, absolutely. fantastic stephen king adaptation. >> yes. yeah. >> seth: so he let you give an acceptance speech for him at an award show. >> yes. i mean, he wasn't in the country, to be fair. he wasn't in the audience and said, "you take this one," so. >> seth: but how -- [ laughter ] but now, this has happened multiple times, yes? because you were nominated in the same category as him. >> oh is that -- so there are two different things. so first of all, when i was 16, he -- my mother, an amazing person, did not want to accept the award. he wasn't in the country. so i went up, made a kind of a speech that was just a little bit stupid. i was 16. and i got an agent from it. that's how i got started in the industry. >> seth: oh, wow. >> and then years later, like two years ago, the bif, that's the british independent film awards. we were both nominated in the same category.

now i've lost the iftas. which is the irish film and television awards. i have lost to him multiple times. >> seth: okay. gotcha. [ laughter ] it's different in britain. it feels worse in britain. and, yes, he beat me. and i went up to accept the award, and on the way up, they said, "here to accept the award is sara gavron," who is the director of the film. >> seth: yeah. >> and she was also walking up. it looked like i'd misheard and thought that i had won the award. >> seth: which is rough with the same last name would not be your fault. >> it's so terrible. and alicia vikander was like, "what the hell are you doing here?" she was -- then the award. and then -- so i accepted it for him and it went okay. and then later, tom hardy was nominated in a totally different category that i had nothing to do with. and they said the winner is tom hardy. here to accept his award is domhnall gleeson. [ laughter ] and i had to go up again. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: so it was a very strange night for you. i watched both speeches, and i will say you came off incredibly well. >> thank you. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah but i didn't leave with a damn thing. [ laughter ] i went home with nothing. >> seth: there's that as well. >> yeah. >> seth: i also watched this today, because i heard you say there is -- in ireland, there is a o

work. your television work. there is a video? >> a video? >> seth: i watched this -- you in the back seat of a car. was this a charity? what was this for? >> oh, cool, i get to pitch for st. francis hospice in raheny. >> seth: oh, great. please. >> you can go to immaturity for charity, and i did a load of sketches, including with my dad, one in which he explains sex to me, but i'm 32. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> and -- >> seth: oh that's great. see, now i only saw the sketch, so i did not know that the premise was immaturity for charity. because the sketch i saw was wonderful. >> yeah. >> seth: it's only a minute long. >> yeah. >> seth: and it was brilliantly immature. >> well i wrote that with my friend, michael maloney. but that was from the series "be forty first." and then it went so well, we decided to do the other one. but basically, the thing is me in a car. and this is what i'm known for in ireland. i think more than most people -- people can -- way more than "star wars." way more than "harry potter," whatever. they come up and say, you were in that sketch. and it's basically i need to go to the toilet in the car. we're on the way to a concert, and i'm like, "you need to pull over, i drank too much lemonade." "drank too much lemonade." "just go in a bottle." and then i poo in the bottle. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah, yeah. la

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night," everybody. well, it's october now and autumn has officially started. leaves are changing, days are shorter, air is crisper. here now to share some tips on how to make the most of the season. please welcome two people from vermont who love fall. >> hi. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: hi, guys! >> hi. >> seth: so happy to have you here! thank you for coming in all the way from vermont. >> oh, it's our pleasure. we walked. [ laughter ] >> seth: you walked? >> nothing is more beautiful than a 341-mile stroll in autumn. [ light laughter ] all you need is a light jacket and some thick socks. >> i don't know who loves fall more. me or my wife. >> ex-wife. >> ex-wife. [ laughter ] >> seth: well, we're all excited to hear some tips on how to make the most of the season. what have you got for us? >> oh, plenty. first and foremost, seth, it is not fall without a good old fashioned apple pick. >> seth: now, that always sounds fun. >> apple pie, apple crisp,le

are drinking right now? >> uh, i am. hers is straight vodka. >> i just prefer the taste, yeah. >> it's why our marriage crumbled. >> ooh, crumble. that's another thing you could make with apples, seth. >> god, you are brilliant. do you want to get back together? >> i don't. >> seth: okay, so apple-picking. what else? >> well, i'm a man's man, seth. >> seth: i feel like that's not true. [ laughter ] >> so for me, sundays in the fall are all about one thing. >> seth: football. >> scones. >> seth: pretty sure you were going to say football. >> sometimes the most satisfying scone is one you bake yourself, seth. >> seth: okay, so there we go. so we've got apples, we've got scones. oh i know, what about driving up state to see the leaves change? >> no. rebecca stop. please i begged you. >> seth: i'm sorry. do you not like seeing the leaves change? >> we used to. >> rebecca, go back to drinking your cider vodka. >> seth: sorry, what's going on here? >> nothing. rebecca, you promised you wouldn't do this. >> seth: do what? >> we were leaf pe

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is a very talented writer, whose debut novel, "the talented ribkins," is on stands now. please welcome to the show, author, ladee hubbard, everybody! ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: how are you? >> i'm great. >> seth: i'm so happy to have you here. you're not only an author, you also teach at tulane university. >> i do. >> seth: and so what are you teaching right now? >> right now i'm teaching a class on afro-futurism. so it's a lot of speculative fiction, science fiction, and surrealist fiction. it's very fun. >> seth: that sounds very fun. now, i have to ask, when you're here, does that mean class was cancelled? [ laughter ]

>> seth: oh, wow. >> yes it did. [ laughter ] >> seth: that's fantastic. [ cheers and applause ] you're welcome! or maybe not. >> funny. that's funny. >> seth: maybe they're upset. i shouldn't say that they're happy class. they might be very upset that you're gone. so. and you -- it must be very exciting for them to be -- have a teacher who is now a published author. you went to princeton for undergrad and toni morrison was one of your teachers, is that true? >> yes. yes, she was my thesis adviser. >> seth: wow. >> yeah. >> seth: and how -- i imagine you go into that with such great expectations as to what it will be like to work with toni morrison. did it live up to your expectations? >> absolutely, yeah. i was a huge -- i mean, a huge fan of hers before i went there and met her. and she was really a great -- a great teacher. i have been thinking about it a lot. it's really wonderful. she really encouraged a lot of risk-taking and experimentation, and i -- and it's amazing i don't remember her ever saying, like, "you can't do that." like, it was always like very -- her trying to figure out what i wanted to do.

achieve my own goals. and that was really important to me at the time. >> seth: do you feel not only that you learned lessons from her as how to write, but do you also feel that you channel her as a teacher at all in your class? do you borrow from that a little? >> i try to. i would hope i do. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> seth: well we're going to have your class in next week, and we're going to -- i'm going sit them here and we're going to find out. [ laughter ] >> great. >> seth: so this is fascinating to me. you actually started this thinking it was going to be a short story. in a series of short stories. when does a short story reveal itself to you as being a novel instead? >> well, it was actually the first chapter in a very altered form was a short story that was going to be part of a collection. and i wrote it, and i published it. and then actually was a couple years before i realized that i wanted to expand that and make it into a novel.

and i think it was just my -- i had very strong feelings about the characters in the story. and i just wanted to tell more of their story as a novel. >> seth: that's fantastic. and did you -- this is inspired by an essay, to some degree, yes? >> it is. a lot of it is -- the title of the book and a lot of the things that happened are inspired by an essay that was written by an african-american sociologist named w.e.b. dubois. and in 1903 -- oh, that's cool. [ cheers and applause ] now in 1903, he wrote an essay called "the talented ten," which is -- it's really a very impassioned plea for educational opportunities to be made available for african-americans in the south at that time. and part of his argument was that one-tenth of the african-american population was endowed with sorof

talents or gifts that would lead to them becoming the leadership class for all african-americans. and i think that what influenced the title, for one thing, and then the whole idea of talent, i just wanted to make them tangible in the book. so all the characters have specific talents or, like, powers. >> seth: there are -- you know, it's both grounded in reality. but there is a fantasy element to this book. there are characters with, you know, super powers for lack of a better word. you put -- was it fun to decide? because i read a lot of comic books growing up. coming up with powers seems to be the most exciting thing you could do when you're writing. >> yeah. >> seth: did you enjoy that part of it? >> i did. i did. and i read a lot of comic books growing up. >> seth: oh, you did? what were your favorites? where did you --? >> i really like the "x-men." >> seth: yeah. i mean the "x-men" are the best. yeah. >> yeah. i did. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i mean as far as telling social stories, i feel ke

>> yeah. so that's probably -- i've probably always been sort of attracted to stories that do that. and in terms of this, too, i just -- i really did want to make the talent something tangible so that you could really see sort of the potential they had. but then also the limitations of the sort of the idea of talent being the key to the future. because talent is different from vision. right? so a lot of the characters have talent, but they don't know what to do with them. >> seth: you are a perfect teacher. everything you're saying -- >> that's funny. that's funny. >> seth: everything you say makes you perfect. you are professor x. that is very -- >> that's really funny. [ laughter ] >> seth: there's your takeaway here. >> that's funny. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> seth: congrats on the book. >> thank you so much. >> seth: ladee hubbard, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] "the talented ribkins" is available wherever books are sold. and ladee will be reading from her novel at "books are magic" in brooklyn tomorrow night as part of her national tour. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪

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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: my thanks to james spader, domhnall gleeson, ladee hubbard, joe russo, the 8g band. stay tuned for "carson daly." we'll see you tomorrow. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> carson: hi there. you're watching "last call." i'm your host, carson daly, and this is the lovely hilton hotel in universal city, california. alright, let's