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china even more than trump and this obsession does not allow them to ask for advice. but henry would be brilliant, would explain to them how to do business with china and that he would explain this, interesting, says two things that are important first china has existed for so long that there is nothing to dream that it will go somewhere, second china is so fast developed for 40 years, and because the west helped him , the fundamental mistake of the americans is what they believe. it was necessary not to help the chinese economy. and prevent her from developing. this is a wild absurdity that ignores that the chinese economic growth has made a huge contribution to the rise of the world and the us economy itself. keeson knows that it's just nonsense to try to rewrite history since nixon's time, there's a denial of the entire chinese police, but for china, you remember?
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it all started gtrk alexander balitsky skverbat hampin draws tourists, but no, no, yes, and he will remember, and also the student's passion for cartoons, and when you only hear in the news that about america with its next anti-chinese sanctions, the hand reaches out to fill that were between beijing and washington is not only a disagreement. this is kissinger, an important american politician, and these two hands that he connects. it’s china and america, it’s good when they shake hands strangely, and don’t clash, henrys in china are respected, and at the suggestion of the chairman, they are even called an old friend of the chinese people. they remember in beijing. that historic secret visit in july 71, when us president nixon's security adviser, on his personal behalf, secretly undertook to improve relations with communist china, so it was in the smallest detail and
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today is well remembered, anna ben here. she is on the footage with a short haircut glasses sports legal night, then still a novice translator was among the four who flew the secret. to pakistan to meet kissenger there and fly with him to beijing to premier zhou enlai, we have presented china's views and left space for the americans to present their views. then the general points of view of both sides were listed, about which we basically agreed already during the negotiations about those secret negotiations on which kitty was in such a hurry that he even forgot his shirt in the hotel. i had to put it on here. the one that is not the right size assistant in the middle kingdom even made a movie where the tank is. ben-sheng was given an important role. after all, it allowed china and the united states to understand each other not just as a negotiator, but in general to china and the united states and the main message that kisanger conveyed to nixon the chinese are undoubtedly people of deep convictions. and we are separated by huge chasms of dialogue and isolation. but nonetheless.
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they were ready to outline the prospects not only for the normalization of relations, but also moving forward towards friendship and cooperation , those negotiations laid the foundation for a future meeting between nixon and mao . in china antique market. panzioni, the history of sino-american relations can be studied from chinese propaganda poster art before the visit of the americans to china . shown here exclusively aggressors invaders militarists. here , for example, is a poster from the 1970s, that is , exactly over the years such sadgers are everywhere. and after that, he significantly softened and such posters. of course, it was no longer to be found. it is clear that washington then went for rapprochement with beijing not for the sake of friendship, but in order to further tear it away from moscow, and this was also a sour plan, which they perfectly understood, the chinese could not enlist support in the event of an even greater aggravation of relations with the soviet
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union, a veteran chinese journalist or inshauch believes, however, that is not quite the case with the us of course, it had its own agenda and mindset in washington to unite with enemies to contain and defeat russia, but china had a different mindset and a different goal. china just wanted to be equal in the world , maintain normal relations with any country, and finally open up fully to the rest of the world. and this almost happened after the american recognition of recognition by the entire collective west, albeit in exchange for declaring moscow a hegemon. and this is the term that led into circulation, just kisenj the chinese fell in love with it so much that today, without it, the political rhetoric of the middle kingdom is already unthinkable. true to the hegemons in chinese, bot. here now exclusively called the us patch. and that's all, because in today's washington they have completely forgotten everything that was declared, and with it, nixon. that
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evening, a welcome banquet was held in honor of president nixon, and the banquet toasts are very important to pay attention to, because they accurately reflect the positions of each side . the premier joinlay said in his toast that the social systems of china and the united states are fundamentally different. however, these differences should not prevent china from establishing normal relations with the united states. based on the five principles of mutual respect for the sovereignty of territorial integrity , mutual non-attack, no interference in each other’s internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit , dr. want to build trust attitude with this must be reckoned with, the chinese appreciate such a position, but it seems that recognition is much more appreciated, but sour in love with chinese cuisine, the famous pobedinsky duck. not just one of the gastronomic symbols under heaven. maybe you know her secretly,
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the weapon that the chinese use to fight. on the spot in the case of poultry fat. so it happened, he even wrote in his analytical notes to the president of weeks about the incredible taste that surrounded him throughout the negotiations. well, in textbooks on international relations. even showed up the term duck diplomacy, china , is used by the chinese in all negotiations and often works. so the hydro-acidifier recalled that after dinner, which joe inlay announced in a cuirass, when fierce disputes began at the negotiations, tension disappeared. and judging by the current relationship. beijing washington urgently needs a new kingger with the proviso that it does not require a break with moscow, as 53 years ago. and there will always be a duck for him in china. kissinger's followers say that washington's current course is paradoxical nixon and kissinger did everything half a century ago to prevent rapprochement between moscow and beijing
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, america's main opponents biden, blinkan and sullivan seem to be deliberately pushing two capitals towards each other, times have changed, of course, but is it really time to discard even the basics of geopolitics , a russian-chinese business forum of a high level and wide coverage was held in beijing this week. the russian delegation was headed by the prime minister. mikhail mishustin took him to the seat pin event organized in pursuance of the march agreements in moscow between the russian president and the chairman of the people's republic of china for two years in a row, the volume of trade between russia and china has increased by about a third during the season last year. he broke the record, reaching almost 190 billion dollars. this year's target is 200 to 200 billion. russia is one of the main suppliers of energy resources in china today, more than 75% of exports.
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mineral fuels accounted for oil and oil products last year against the backdrop of a slowdown in the economy due to linguistic restrictions. china reduced the purchase of oil, but this did not affect russia, which supplied it with resources at a discount. as a result, tanker imports of russian oil to china rose to a record level in february. russia provided about 20% of all chinese oil imports, compared to the share of saudi arabia and iraq, the largest suppliers of black gold to the world market , at c 14 and 12%, respectively, the export of pipeline gas is also growing last year through the gas pipeline, the power of siberia , a record 15 billion cubic meters russian gas. russia supplies coal, wood, fish, food and much more; as for the russian implant, special equipment
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, backhoe loaders, trucks, tractors and all kinds of components are in the lead. up to 18%. things are different in the high -tech sector at the end of last year, amid fears of secondary sanctions, a number of chinese electronics manufacturers reduced volumes deliveries to russia and some even left the market. but those who remained filled the niche and expanded the range. as a result, today , according to analysts , chinese brands xiaomi and rimmy are leading in the number of gadgets sold in russia. bypassing the giant in the industry, samsung and apple are also popular microprocessor chips, as well as clothing and consumer goods made in china. our guests are almost like from
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a ship to a ball, and on the immortal main thing in china at the moscow chamber of commerce and industry anna hello, how was the forum. is it possible to say that this is a milestone in our business cooperation with china? i think, of course, one can say, uh, that it was such a triumphal visit, but many journalists called this visit the triumphal visit of the russian delegation to china. the forum was quite impressive delegation. first of all, of course, business and the entire majority of the cabinet of ministers and representatives of our government participated, so many experts tend to characterize this forum the atmosphere from the chinese side in this way, because we have a lot of discussions on this subject, some believe that it is so beneficial for the chinese in the long run that they will make every effort, bypass all obstacles, while
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others, on the contrary, that the san are not afraid of the american ones. so will try your best, well be discreet you know, uh i would i believe both points of view hold true with you. yes, of course, the chinese partners, first of all, you absolutely rightly said, they will pursue their own interests, yes, they will look for opportunities to seek, and profit for their projects. and so, as they say, business, nothing personal, but at the same time. we must understand very well that our chinese partners are ours, despite all the support. they are very afraid of secondary sanctions and have a very restrained and systematic approach to the policy of relations with us. discreet system decipher, that is, they calculate the steps quite clearly. they have a systematic policy in regards to this and their restraint. she is quite logical. that is, if we talk about the volume of trade with
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others. countries yes, and compare something with turnover with russia despite all his record figures, then, of course, he is about five times less, yes, than the united states of america and therefore they are primarily businessmen. they pursue the interests of their country, and in this we must give them their due. yes, they still have to learn from them, and therefore they have what to lose and they clearly enough calculate their steps. well, there i am not a sinologist, but i have heard that business is business, but there is, as it were, a very clear and firm political leadership that gives certain signals either yes or no. with this we cooperate with these we cooperate, of course, yes, the signals are absolutely clear, but don't forget. this is the east and makes it subtle and therefore the signals that they give can be quite twofold with cheats. and even more so for us european people, who we don’t care, no matter how we speak, no matter how we study, but for the most
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part. we still do not fully understand enough the mentality and eastern specifics. more than 2,000 years ago, the dignitary of the chinese emperor jang-tian in search of allies to confront the steppe peoples, he reached the bacteria of the territory of modern tajikistan uzbekistan and afghanistan fergana valley. he discovered developed cities and settlements, fortresses and temples of a whole world, the existence of which the chinese did not know, having received this strategically important information, the emperor sent the first caravan with gifts, including the famous chinese silk, to the west. this is how the great silk road appeared. not just a trade route, but a dynamic network that brought together a distant culture, trade routes went from china to europe and the middle east, both to listen, and by sea, an extensive system of caravan roads passed through the mountains. desert steppe territory front of central
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asia to the borders of the roman empire, so the china route was carrying porcelain and lacquerware for sale. or cosmetics, tea and rice, and from central asia, military equipment, semi-precious stones and exotic fruits were brought to the middle kingdom from central asia in the thirteenth century, when the mongol empire controlled the way, overland trade along ancient routes revived, along them, studying the east, the first european explorers marco polo also moved carpeni and hands in the 15th century due to numerous land wars transit practically stopped and the development of the merchant marine fleet then the ottoman empire acted as the monopoly of trade with the east by that time, which had taken control of the eastern mediterranean sea, according to researchers long before the advent of the great silk road. china could trade in a different way jade through
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southern siberia directly to europe, it is believed that it was possible to get to iran between re. whose ancient egypt syria anatolia and even india from central asia found in exchange gems jade lapis lazuli, which time in china, they became not only objects of bargaining, but also a cult. that's just about we don't understand. as i know, you have been dealing with china for a long time and in addition to political things that have always been and will be. well, is it human, or what? i do not know intercultural understanding, what hinders the most. that's what we don't understand, you know, this is the main problem, and the lack of understanding of potential partners in our entrepreneurs is a really big problem. first of all, after all, what hmm we are very we i mean, our community
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yes, entrepreneurial first. uh, of course, not so well, we know the cultural and cultural characteristics of the country. yes, all the nuances that need to be taken into account. secondly, of course, in addition to this cultural one, this component is a big problem. these are low competencies, and the workers of these enterprises who go to work in china and these two factors. they probably are. difficult in the work of our low competencies, in fact, in their own profile in america yes, and low competencies in general the introduction of foreign economic activity from china, yes, that is, but they absolutely do not understand some of the features of the chinese market , again, the features of the mentality, the features of relations with chinese partners. and this very often becomes just such a point of uh, hmm touch that interferes with successful work. but you said about the cultural misunderstanding. if there's any example,
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here's how it manifests itself. and what is manifested well, let's say the most striking example is the way of negotiating, and their son-in-law fairly measured people. they are buddhists, they are doing well. as they say, where should we rush, we have a whole eternity ahead, and our people are still more emotional. yes, we are more like that, we all want to come quickly. one day, decide everything there, knock on the table, set your own conditions. and more often than not , it's a complete failure, that is. well, you can't work with china, especially now yes, in such a situation, imposing your own conditions. here you need to be more diplomatic more hmm soft and then in this way in this way only in this way the way you can establish successful cooperation with the chinese quickly will not be there. and what about language proficiency? i mean, we have a wonderful school of sinology, scientific and culture, or literature and history, whatever, but here we need something else. here you need knowledge of applied language,
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do you know this language? from also from such urgent things that we are now solving, yes , and i myself teach. today i have a lecture at the higher school of economics, and the question is that simply knowing the language is absolutely not enough you can literally speak with people in the same language in chinese, but absolutely not convey the meaning and not understand people, because you do not understand the context. this is the first thing, the second is that, but really, we have a very strong school of sinology. i myself am its graduate, but in addition to the language, ah, experts, now the market has changed the request. now we need not just people who know the language; now we need people who know, in addition to the language, the economy, but logistics, customs , jurisprudence, and the general international agenda there, yes, and such specialists are extremely little and now these are absolutely not by chance at a very high level, but the question of additional education of sinologists and
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additional, as well as the program is being raised. x, which they should study, because it never helps to have a single knowledge of the language, if you are asked, er, competent comrades, what must be done first of all in order to qualitatively begin to change our cooperation. what about switching to more uh such high uh to higher forms of cooperation? yes , that is, he even roughly said that it was time to move on. just from there trading on investment cooperation. and, of course, develop your own production. and yes, and in some joint areas it may be, so hmm, in order to feel more confident in these relationships. surely, yes, the last question, but, probably, the main one, we are generally afraid of the chinese, as partners, as i don’t know, you know, we
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are still talking about business, yes, and i ’m trying to avoid categories of assessment such as friendship fear . well, if we are talking about business, well, again, i repeat, nothing personal. yes, there will always be business. if there is a benefit, if there are opportunities, if it will be of interest to both parties, but talk about some categories of friendship yes, who is a friend to whom, who cries back to whom senior or there, but some fears, yes, well, it seems to me that this is absolutely not such irrational irrational some categories that can be used in business. ok thank you very much. our guest was anna the immortal. in russia, kissinger is not afraid of this word, popular, some see him as the very world behind the scenes, others even think that old henry is for us, alas, and the scenes have long since fallen into disrepair and the diplomatic patriarch
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exclusively for himself and for america but also for common sense from those times when he was the architect of detente in the seventies. the word détente in english is borrowed from the french deitant. that is, this concept, in principle, does not belong to the anglo-saxon tradition. for such a policy of america, a statesman of european culture was needed, and this was henry kiselger, he is a follower of a deep researcher of the european balance of his dissertation, then published as a book. restored world. the best study of the balance of power, however détente and arms control, risk management through diplomacy is based on the recognition that there are deep irreconcilable differences between states and, in order to govern, to find common ground where they may need to be recognized. that contradiction is inevitable sounds nice. and
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why the then detente? it ended so soon. president carter who came after ford actually rejected real politics in favor of the primacy of human rights, so he returned to the american tradition opposite to the one that applies to kissinger and the personal factor, having knocked down brzezinski, brought the polish attitude towards russia into american politics and it replaced the german approach that personified kissinger the latter is aimed at regulating relations with russia as an important participant in european affairs; its rejection became the verdict of détente. well, here's our second favorite surname sounded in the circle of life. biden closed up, inheriting the tradition of carter rather than nixon, will he be able to achieve re-election with such a course, while
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there are replenishment in the ranks of his opponents of the republicans, and the intention to fight for the presidential nomination was announced by the governors of florida rondesantis. the second most popular after trump and a very promising conservative. for us, this is of some importance. in relation to the ukrainian conflict , both trump and desantis are different from the republicans of congress, almost everyone is there actively for giving the ukrainians practically anything with a clear definition. what is the interest of the united states in ukraine is not talking about democracy. who will adopt the liberal wilsonian concept of an international order built on rules. in my opinion. this is an invented designer desantis. he recently sparked outrage in washington by saying that ukraine was not in america's vital interests. and this is a reflection of how the governor generally thinks, senator or congressman, can say whatever you want direct there will be no consequences, but the governor, who has a clear area of ​​\u200b\u200bresponsibility, has to determine priorities
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, it cannot be argued that china is the most important priority and america needs a strong deterrent in asia and the pacific. but at the same time , demand a concentration of forces for a european land war. yes, and support the unit. the counterinsurgency, which was considered the main one after september 11 , is closer to ordinary people who do not share the willingness of congressmen to get involved in the third century world war, henry kissinger a reason to think about time and change is something in politics that we used to be proud of. now almost a reason for repentance. remember merkel with her tricks about the minsk process. she already in her time and running, of course, does not dodge like that. well, he also feels the direction of the wind, probably the most famous and most. well, probably the largest -circulation fat book is diplomacy, which was
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written immediately after the end of the cold war, the collapse of the soviet union in the chapter of détente. he i would say so. less researcher less historian and more a politician who justifies his behavior. there is some very interesting text. he may very well be not so skillful, he tries to prove. well, what i did, what i am being criticized for, was actually for the purposes of democratization, that is, the final results, but i fought for the united states of america, i fought for strength from the united states in the end. hmm, this set the stage for change and syndro justified himself. but just, if we talk about these accusations, he justified himself already in the early nineties. in the same in his harvard dissertation, which determined his future life, kesinger wrote that the most important problem of politics is not to
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st. petersburg celebrates 320 years since its founding in the morning in honor of the holiday, according to tradition, torches were lit on rostral columns , and flowers were laid at the monument to peter the great. in total, the festive program includes about 200 events, including the festival , exhibitions, performances and now i will copy the northern the capital joins our own correspondent in st. petersburg dmitry akimov dmitry congratulations on the holiday, of course, happy st. petersburg day and tell us with what mood the st. yes hello daria well, in general , a lot of ceremonies and formalities are connected with the celebration of the birthday of the city. everything must go according to plan. so exactly at 9:55 the torches of the rostral columns are lit exactly at 10:00 the laying of flowers to the bronze horseman takes place at exactly noon the peter and paul fortress thunders a shot from an artillery gun.
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and this is the official start of festive events, st. petersburg loves ceremonies and nothing else from the capital of the russian empire, which was not built randomly from the very beginning, and in strict accordance with the architectural plan, you don’t expect it , and it’s all the more surprising that this strict city, like no other, knows how to surprise precisely in this rigor gives birth to creative freedom of expression, so today the city will be filled with artists, musicians and clowns. here on elagin the island is scheduled for a procession of street theaters, please listen to the name of the groups. the theater whose name cannot be named is the comedian trust and the foolish choir, or on vasilyevsky island the humorous assembly with peter i and court stilt walkers and runners. at the same time, one must understand that this is not balagan . st. petersburg is a sophisticated, proud city and celebrates a birthday with elegance and taste.

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