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and we will do everything possible to prevent it from escalating farmer po. as president mathias more awake, he is watching all this from the very back into the clown car. now, because he no longer has the control of power, and he's yelling at the guys at the wheel. embargo for products from ukraine is needed immediately. poland food security is everyone's business and polish farmers deserve strong government support. not a crisis. government stop gap. even more with the successor test is say that with brussels, ikea has proposed is quote, unacceptable to poland. and that he wants to protect the polish farmers and market from float on equal competition. but right now, all across the block. there's a lot of talk and promises at the national level, but everyone seems totally straight jacketed by brussels. and really, it's pretty clear that the farmers aren't seeing any results in a concrete action, and they really do know the difference between talk and getting things done to
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their satisfaction. well, those the main stories the solid do head over to our websites. com or social media pages for more money is be just going to be back again at the top of the not want to make sure the hello and welcome to across stock. were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. the united nation says at least 576000 people in gaza, or one step away from famine. meanwhile, jo volume is seen using about a potential cease fire by one showing an ice cream coat. this is a state of play. this is the politics of genocide,
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the cross talking palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal and media analyst input and we have mohammed mirandi. he is a professor at the university of colorado and in london we cross them a home in a couldn't g. d is a lawyer in parliamentary candidate or a gentleman. comstock role is in effect, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated my how many random people let me go to you 1st and to that. and i, i want to do a special call out right now about aaron bush now and his extreme act of defiance to what he deemed as an active member of the military, u. s. military is jet, the us government's pursuit of genocide. and this a story says, almost everything we really need, if it was mentioned at all in mainstream media, it didn't give you any idea of what was going on. it was very, very shameful and embarrassing for the profession. mohammed to absolutely in the
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main stream media has been behaving in the most shameful manner since the genocide and gaza began. but when i woke up to the news that he had a cub burned himself alive in front of it is really the embassy. and i saw the footage it was for, for a few minutes. i really couldn't think it was very painful. i didn't. i never saw the footage to the very end, but uh, he was very clear what he was after. he was very clear uh, with regards to why he was doing this. he did it like a like he was like, he acted like a soldier and it will have an impact. because while the media immediately began to question his sanity and his background, those when you him came out and said that he was a very decent person and
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a very likable person. and the fact, so the facts, people across the united states young people in particular, they are going to be at least most of them, i believe, are going to be moved by this, this act of sacrifice. i would never advise anyone to do this for now. that heat has carried out this act, we should all use this moment to humiliate those who are carrying out this genocide to expose. ready or carrying out what the president of brazil s said was similar to the holocaust. yeah, and again the, the media attacked him for that may can, but could it would be resilient president side was actually in context, but the media reported was without the context. that's what we expect here. all right, back to business vinyl. 2 thirds of americans, independence republicans,
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democrats, want a permanency spire. the jo, jo biden's administration ignores that. i thought this was a democracy as well. well, it's just not a democracy because as you know, we're not tyranny by the majority and we don't, it's not majority roles. we are technically a constitutional republic. may i just ask one favor just on what you just mentioned regarding bush not if you don't mind. go ahead. i have waited to play this play. this is kelly me. it's funny how we select. certainly here rose. remember the monkey in 1963. yep. courageous bobby says hunger striker, cesar chavez. yeah, there was a quaker who so immolated during vietnam. we love certain people who sacrifice hunger sights and the like. do you know that after this happened? that various baby media reports referred to genocide in quotes that this man
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referred you quote, genocide, and one particular national outlet said at the end of this, if you're a family member or having ideations of suicide or basically if you're crazy like this guy seek help and here's a number to call you. this is, this is the way this story was skewed. and again, not, not loading a suicide, but did they do? they not know that this was in some guy who, who misunderstood a football game or somebody that this is going with this. this is part and parcel going back to your question, how could there be a ceasefire? well, there's only one well firing. i don't under, i still don't under i, i this, this terminology that we use. i'm a lawyer and i'm trying to always find the, the definition. so i'm, i'm at a loss across the board. i'm sorry. well, i mean line or a, you know, in, in, in the context of,
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of the united states. and i know i'm and mirandi lived there for a while. i mean, it's not surprising you, you've said week after week the, because of the media coverage, people just aren't aware. okay. because i think of a were aware they would act very differently. but we have a political class and apply it media that wants to control the message. aaron, the voice mail story is the best example. okay, for the domestic car context here. let's go back to its go to my home in in london . one of the reasons what the primary is, why i wanted to do this program, was watching joe biden eating an ice cream cone, talking about the potential of a cease fire. and i, i can't imagine being more toned depths. okay. um and plus he was just thinking about the primary in michigan, most likely, but it's so casual. and so talis, go ahead mohammed in london. you know, i think it's been a long time the case, the low, many people pay attention to what you buys in the same is true,
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but i didn't was fully in control of his own bodily functions. then that would be something, but he finds it difficult to climb up or down the steps, finds it difficult to keep hold of where he is in his mind. on many of these in many was interviews and said it's very clear that joe biden is not in control of whatever is going on the united states, and there's the forces behind him the appropriate lock. well, mohammed mohammed if i could just and interject here, i mean we have, uh he was a senator. i think he was a senator and the roman empire has been around for so long. he was, is known as the most ardent design is in the senate. and now as vice president and as president, we can look at his physical and mental failings, but make no mistake. design is through and through. he says that all the time mohammed, so the boss is the best, the, the particular group people power can pro pop as the fund. and it shows that the
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weak us within the power base of the whole guys i should because if you have to pull out somebody who's frankly indistinguishable from is on the then it means of us the best you could actually achieve. so i think that the phase in the, the phase in that full color takes, is of some of these doesn't really exist. and, and off to you have, i didn't say come off the center stage, then i put and believe that the power that has to be on bodies and is not crested and will before send me a little stage of the pronouncements of what reality is meant to be, by the honest it'll be, it's certainly not lending with the public, and you mentioned that the company come where i don't believe that's the case. i think that in terms of the u. j on the us as well. a vast majority of the public of pretty much against the will going on. and unfortunately,
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the media powers and the political powers are long the goes to own people. and it took a soldier to burn himself so that he could boom through the want of that, of that bouquets against democracy on the people in order to try and shine a light on the fact of that time of resistance to once he's frankly, the covering of of a genocide and we've, we've been seeing that these protests around the world of coal, south africa as a nation to be galvanized to bring the case in the i c j. that would have happened without the will of the people being so clearly articulated worldwide. and that quote, which included a requisite proof foot by israel as a judge. he himself, yeah, well, so again, this is drawn on to the line point. so really, there is no more cause for this very clear breach of human rights. this is very clear, the problem is that we, we, i think a, we're all on the same page here,
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but it's not stopping here. mohammed into around, i mean, line on the bottom brought it up. i mean, when, in, in, in, in an article that he read about aaron bush now they had a, a genocide and quotations. that's the problem, isn't it? okay. they, they will not recognize what's going on. they refused to do it. and if you do say it, you, you are, are shut down, your disappeared, etc. go ahead, mom it into into them. yes, but you do become rather irrelevant gradually the the main stream media, the corporate media, the legacy media when they continue to support genocide when they continue to hide this genocide or to attempt to hide this trend aside from the public and people are seeing what's going on there, undermining themselves in the short term. they are, of course, supporting dentist side there are assisting genocide that are part of this genocide in your times of washington post all the cnn, bbc, all of them are,
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are guilty in this, in this the people are most crime, but they are undermining themselves people. they expect for, for a number of years now, the media has become increasingly a question by ordinary people. it's become less respected by ordinary people, but now it's in freefall. mm hm. so they can continue going down this road, but they're just quickening the pace of their own demise. i'm optimistic about the teacher, even though on the genocide is ongoing. even though last night was particularly horrible. when this riley's slaughtered a large number of people who are waiting for aid, the footage is, is, is, is particularly painful to watch. despite the fact that every day it's been painful . but beyond that, i am optimistic about the future. no one believes the western media. i mean,
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when i speak about no one, i mean the general public across the globe. few people have any respect for the western political establish establishment. and the people across the world are increasingly seeking alternatives, breaks the shanghai cooperation organization, other regional organizations. these are all being given a boost. the irony is that we all want a ceasefire immediately for the sake of the people of gossip. but the regime and the regimes that are losing because of the continued genocide are the united states this way, the regime, the british mom and i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on pallets, i'd say, with our to the
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on the 1943 at the height of world war 2, bengal was hit by famine a year before jeff and his troops drove the red is out of neighboring vermont and
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came close to the indian possessions of the british empire. london's response to the threat was completely inadequate. the british actively used the scorched earth policy. while retreating, they turned everything around them into an uncouth deserts, having no mercy on other people's territory. food in large amounts was exported to great britain from the starving provinces. boats used for fishing and transporting food along the river system more confiscated from the local population, the barbaric actions of the colonial administration. let the monstrous consequences can a year up to 3800000 people die from starvation and disease caused by mail nutrition . the old great britain itself had enough resources to overcome that disaster. at the same time, 170000 tons of australian wheat made its way fast. starving india did the british aisles. i hate indians. they are a beasley people with
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a beastly religion. the payment was their own fault for breeding like rabbits, british prime minister, winston churchill commented on the reports of the tragedy. the famine of 1943 became the climax in the british policy of genocide against the indian population. according to historians, from 12 to 29000000 people overall died from starvation alone during the reign of the british in india. the the welcome back across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter live elsewhere. man, you were discussing palestine. the okay, let's go back to lionel lionel, you know, we, we, i started out the program talking about i'm the inability of the, the a, by the administration to reflect upon public opinion. here. are they going to
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continue down the same path? because i think all of them this program in our viewers are a bit tired to say the least about. it's really difficult and you are work. we're trying really hard. we're trying the media. i don't believe any of but i think that's a complete smoke screen. okay. i don't think they by the administration is going to do anything whatsoever to hinder. israel's goals, which is genocide awaits displacement and they'll just say we did our best and that will be good enough for some people. but i think as a, as our other guests have said that is going to alienate in, in a, a very fundamental way. but as we move forward line on to, i have mentioned you before peter, that there is a definition of problem that people have in this country. when you say the word genocide, i am saying look, that is a term of art from the genocide convention. this is about targeting and hold of a part of people i've seen, people have in their minds as world war 2. i've mentioned as cattle cars and the
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complete elimination of all powers. the news everywhere i. i wish i could somehow change the name. second of all, it's not just by the other day though, i saw an interview, you might have seen it as well on online or some platform with, with bernie sanders, bernie sanders, the the, the, the grandfather, the potter familiar us of, of, of the left. just whatever, and he was ask, what do you, what will you do regarding dig genocide and he should have worked for roget he's so as far as he had every version of harper paint, destruction everything up and clothing that number is so one that you as well i know because my, my segment should be called light from the fish bowl because i live in this world of people who sort of know, but also peter, they don't want to be bothered. but you mentioned the word zion is i could walk to
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you right with you to times square, which is a half a mile from here. we could offer a $1000.00 to anybody to define what that means in the context of what's happening now. and they will look at it by virtue of this, this regimentation as it being can amount to, to some type of anti semitic slower. yeah. that your, your, they, so this is, this is my problem. i'm, i'm sorry gentlemen, i'm, i'm, i'm in this master class of every edition. i am from, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the fish full of people who don't understand this. and we also have, if you, this one more thing, you crane to equally confused people as to where it is on the map who's who, and the other day. 11, peers morgan, in an interview with john nurse, i'm or was repeating this world war 2. i mean with it, i'm in a parallel universe, there are people who,
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who overly complicated and oper scabbing model. i think this is very intentional regarding mohammed and in london. this has been intentionally done here. i mean, i think all of us should start talking about the holocaust and guys that just say it, okay. and if it, if it like people it, well, what then say well, you know what, then you would talk about what that really means. i mean, start educating people, start challenging people, and don't be afraid to say the truth. okay, well, i'm and, and one, and one of the problems is what lionel just brought up a whole word. zine is, i mean what it's supposed to invoke, i mean, look what happened to one of your a former prime ministers. he was hounded out of office or being anti semitic, which, which is absurd on the face of it all. but they use that word in a very, very engineered way to silence people not to make people think. but to silence them. go head mom and in london you up to the right spot. so like anything that's engineered, it has a certain tourism is so the phrase anti semitism is now about to suffer from mental
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city where it's been so over used and been tabs of shapes of it will. it will soon fail in the mines. will english speaking people and the reason for that is because the i c j, the instructional quote adjusted has been accused of being submitting the un has been accused of being on smith, a, been hon nation, a nation, as with most recently come as of a policy which is south africa has been accused of being and some is a, i don't run full heroes in the u. k. who's down against the genocide having cooled on submitting. so he, you know, we were talking about the like guns indicated. um, so if you send to the company police braces, it uses the it has a meeting soon enough and i think that's really where a lot of the sensible and clear minded people of the jewish faith have been very vocal about the misuse. yeah. but because it actually does cover up for actual
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services which has existed in europe, particularly it's been a you opinion problem for over a 1000 years. it's not really one that's a later the feature of the, of the arch of not sees them and send it to the movies. it is called issues that were born in your yes answer. know things that were in the, in the are the context. but so that being said, i think those people in the jewish movies spend all these radio. we love who spend so much time educating us a lot of holocaust days. so these things, i shingles least how now actually towards us. we own them, a service of tours is exactly what little cost looks like and what we see in palestine is exactly what we were told from us going sweetens on programs. i shouldn't as list i wouldn't be. oh, great. yeah. so i think, you know, we need to just get pasta rhetoric and remind people of their upbringing. yeah, i think, well, it's good to turn around. i think, you know, if they, if they put a gas changer and costs and then people to start believing it, i guess maybe that's what has to happen here. you know what,
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how many they think if everything is anti semitic, then what is i would say the most anti semitic thing is zine is a yes, i think design isn't as anti semitic because they are the ones who are how climbing the jewish people, more than anyone else and thankfully, many young juices it's already pointed out, have become very, very vocal during the past few months. and in fact, in new york times article that was pulled up lies about rate and the headings and all that. on october, the 7th day was exposed by uh, a palestinian lead website in the united states. and the website led by i do is a friend of your show. so there are changes taking place across the board, both internationally, but also locally. and when i mean locally, i mean in the west. uh,
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i think that as the previous guess, pointed out, these words have been you so much by design this bobby, that they're losing their meaning. and i agree that people, many people in the united states in that bubble still feel that way. but the fact remains that every day we're getting, we're seeing more and more image is coming out of gaza, a never ending in genocide and never ending holocausts. and people will gradually see the reality, those who don't want to accept reality never will. yeah. but overwhelmingly people across the world are seeing reality. and what is really resume is doing is that they're cementing this hostility of animosity towards their racism towards that of those centers. ism, and as they are, they are destroying themselves by continuing this. they should be the 1st to push
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for a ceasefire because o, as i said, although apollo city and so being women and children are being massacred on a daily basis. that is randy regime and a twisted allies. so what is western allies are being dis, demolish now because of this genocide across the world, they can never speak about human rights again, make it well over a topic and every man it can never talk about taken seriously. they cannot never talk about the rules based order anymore, okay? because i have no idea what that means. could get it, particularly in what we're seeing going on and causing it, you know, line or it's closer to home to you. the new york times, again, is in a extremely hot, hot water. this ridiculous story about a systematic rape on october 7th, which has been demolished in israel in the united states on call up the grades on there. and now they're looking at who are the co authors of that monstrosity is,
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and lo and behold, it's a non journalist and someone their workforce really intelligence kind of a embarrassing situation to find yourself in line of embarrassing. if you understand that, by the way, i'm going to steal the line about metal fatigue. that is in such an apt analogy. if i am on a quote mcluhan, who says that that little that, that a little lies are very hard to keep secret. but big lies are easy because of our incredulity. do you know what it would be like if any of you, a gentleman were to stand up and say, you know this rape story is false? what your denying rape? no, no, i'm denying this way. when a you how you sick. so what happens is if it's a big story, the incredulity of it is a problem there. there's also something which is interesting. the more that we see images and pictures, the more we bitch a way to them. peter, remember in our generation, when we 1st heard about me live and it's side hurt,
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people's stopped street and we didn't even see pictures and we didn't even we didn't even say we didn't even say pictures are absolutely right. yes. we did not understood we were, but today perhaps by virtue of maybe our psycho tropic medication because of the fact we've been habituated to this, to this over and over and over. or we're just a completely different. maybe our psyche has been affected by some kind of a social parasite or, or virus, but nobody's reacting to this. and finally gentlemen, what happens is people are told all the time, you don't understand how much is a difference or there you, you, this isn't a, a symmetric war. they don't have uniforms, they don't have walls. you have to what you might consider to be over a kill is, is perhaps, yeah, but why not? doesn't this really speaker? let me go to mohammed in in london here, this,
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this really speak to just the deep seated racism within western the lead. so i mean, it's easy to rationalize what's going on here? there are less, are people there brown people that are muslim? i mean it really plays into that. well, the reason why i bring it up is with the same a leads like to talk about their diversity in all of it. i mean, they're hypocrites, to the core. go ahead and london. yeah, i mean this, the research study of the idolized the payments that would come into our lead potty opposition. labor policy from pro is on his own piece. and it turns out that 40 percent of loss china cabinet have received funding from uh, pro design is still good. nice ations though in terms of whether there is a deep siege of racism, show their uses. any study in the west will show a degree of institutional racism across the board in any institution. a more problematic than that really is, is the issue of being funded by a particular,
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lo be to have a particular outcome. and i'm sorry, i have to jump in here. we have run out of time. absolutely fascinating discussion with all 3 of you. i want to thank my guess in london, new york and into the end. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our d. c. and next time, remember across the, the, the,
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the do you have any risk tensions with this need? so i lied about the sean slot, olaf shoulds. and so it's an upfront, so helping you crane by longer dismissal russian forces. also we will not allow anyone to interfere in our internal affairs. the so called west with its colonial habits, needs a defendant fading dying states instead of russia, west to attempt to instill and we can russia have failed to pass. the message from president may have present any state of the nation address. also they saw at least a 112 palestinians have been master kids as they were rushing to receive 8 in northern garza, we get the 1st time the account comes devices and.

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