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what is the ukraine conflict really all about we're told is about democracy. others say it's about the res baseboard or whatever that me. in fact, there is nothing noble about this conflict. it's just another huge, gripped those in power. want to keep it that way. the hello. i'm vanilla chan. you are tuned into modus operandi with the us putting one eye on ukraine and the other on taiwan leadership across the middle east seem to have made inroads towards peace between syria being . welcome back to the era bleak and saudi arabia's they taught with iran. are we witnessing the birth of a new mid east sans the americans will discuss it. all right, let's get into the m o. the

after more than a decade removed from the block, syria has made its return to the arab league. after nearly 10 years of civil war and conflicts against tara groups, special r l a sod made his 1st trip to join the link summit this year held in jetta. saudi arabia sometimes called the week of arab states, the leading bows. 22 nations in what's considered the era world countries whose main language is arabic. a combined that's roughly 13000000 square kilometers with around half a 1000000000 people. the 2023 catastrophic earthquake along the turkey syria border seem to how much of the lead put their differences aside to bring a to a heavily sanctioned syria. now to be clear, the majority of sanctions on syria are imposed by the us and collective west era

lead members where possible ignore the us pressure and sent aid to those devastated areas of sanction syria. as if that weren't surprising enough, seemingly out of the blue, the biggest kid on the block, saudi arabia and merged saying they have agreed to re establish diplomatic ties of with iran, the kicker. china brokering the daytime. now this news put the us on its back foot, scrambling to reassess its foreign policy projections. so joining us to discuss all of these moving parts in the region is come work l mossey and he's an award winning, middle east commentator, founder of seriana analysis and independent syrian news platform. come or thank you so much for joining us. let's start with syria. so after more than a decade, syria has returned to the air of week president bashar al assad arrived in jetta on march 18th to a warm reception from the host country. saudi arabia. so 1st of all,

walk us through how or why syria was injected, or at least suspended from the block of which they were a founding member in the 1st place are actually in 2011, the are ably came under. heavy influence of cuts are and this tiny country about to reach with the resources, especially with guys an oil. uh it was the task by the united states to shape the outcome of the rep spring, especially in, for example, into an easier in libya, in egypt. and in syria, and if we see the sequence of the events, we see that there are some similarities between them. and that compartment took you . they played an instrument, your role in supporting the most stream buttered groups in this countries. and hence the most in bought of it came to power. for example, in twenty's we got 2011 in egypt in 2011 and also the shooting of mcduffy again in 2011 after the nato led invasion of the country. but on the ground,

the groups a that's were waging the were against the coffee forces. they were mostly from the most same border as well. so in 2011, there was a trend of in our big we say if one i zation of the middle east and north africa and cut her was in charge of the arabic and the wanted by kicking out or suspending the membership of syria to isolate syria, diplomatically and especially in the region, and also to give that to tennessee, to any escalade. treat steps by tonight states interior that would come in the form of arming and training and sending for exempt them or the national geologist to syria. similar, the similar thing happened, for example, in dpi. and the optic gave a legitimacy to the invasion of natal into the beyond. this was back then hit by car, as i mentioned. so when the suspension happens, there was

a hope that syria would be isolated from its neighboring countries. and then give a push to the us let the regime change were in syria, which was a guy, a colorado, pretty sion. and now we know lots of details about it to disclose tempers to come here. and it was one of the cost of the best coverage operation in the history of the c i, a, and the most the costliest. i would say arming and training corporation by the c i a independent are going into united states and the region of countries after the of got us done, we're in the eighty's in the eighty's, the united states used to me the strategy which is arming and supporting the majority, dean and in college, lots of young r ups to go and fight against the soviet union. and in 2011, the strategy was the same in, in syria. and we have to remember that the 1st, for example, foreign legion made up of the hardcode. you had this,

it was formed in november 2011 in a, in syria, with the support of this. i'd be jeannette congress. so the decision was very political and it was aimed at a weakening, serious position in the region in order to facilitate the removal of the shot as such some power, but in between 20112013. there was so many developments in the region and to start with use the image that these and some other countries. they realize that the outcome of this regime change words that they initially supported in 2011 was not in their interest. and they have differences with the most embody hurt their, the ideal adjusting listing budget. but they also realized that by allowing the most important to come to power in different countries in the, in the region a turkey has increased its influence over division. because aragon is also a elegance part is also an affiliate for the most in budget. and this is

historically a red line for this are this we have to remember. for example, during the after autumn, an empire, the ultimate, it's expanded in the 11th and in north africa to the get of syria. and they found themselves in a similar situation where they're going to start to, to speak about the new ultimate dream. and she's a goal to establish a new ultimate empire into the engine and the to use, i think on different countries and he's out of the country. so he's gonna occupied . and this is the, against the national security interests of, sorry, and it'd be so they worked during this time to tap on, for example, how much see the president in egypt, and also they change the system in their twenties, your once again. so there was a lucian and commentary pollutions happening during this time. so the other big, unfortunately played, i would say, destructible instead of trying to mediate, let's say, between the army countries or between the,

the position and the governments. they came under heavy influence of katara, but eventually under heavy influence of the united states and back then, it was the obama and the clinton administration were guiding this outcome. i would say of this revolution is any way that serves the strategic interest of the united states, but eventually this project has failed. and today we can say that today's or the discard ups i'm, it's a big sum. it inside the audio injured the was the last name in the coughing of the a you us, let's projects to if one i is what you summarize the region and especially active duty, then obviously you've got to daughter. thank you so much for that history. i mean, it's very important for context here. i think so. so when syria gained independence from france after the adoption of the alexandria protocols in 1944, syria's saudi arabia were among the founders of this era. we so the parent do have a long,

friendly history. russian syria relations go back to about 1970. how did russia manage this mediation between re, i'd and damascus? and actually the relationship between sar they'd be, are in syria, witness several ups and downs in the past decades. and let's remember that the relationships were always okay between the both sides. but in the late seventies and early eighties when, when it came to power in eden and after him. so bump thing came to power with the support of the c i a in, in iraq in order to fight against a whole many years. and you know, and engaged in large scale award against each other and backed in half is that upset. the father of the sharp, she a sided with young against iraq and uh, backed in is so the sand was financed by the americans to start with these. and other gulf monarchies. so there was a decrease between the syrians and discharges,

let's say in, in the eighty's. but in early nineties, when the soviet union collapsed, syria found itself in a position that it doesn't have a strategic online or an international power that come back syria on the international scene. so when, so them send this time invaded, quit suicide it with quit, which saw the art, it'd be, i would do united states against the dentist in and the relationships i had been repaired again with sort of the idea of you and to sagas invested a lot in syria, how? because in the early ninety's, sylvia was going through a very dire economic situation. not similar to now, but it was very bad in the ninety's again. so the relationships were repair of the game to i would say 2005. it was ok in 2005, the destination of a, the former prime minister, hopefully by then you can have it came and the americans of these right is accused to be off assessing their think him and now in 2020 treat. they don't have any

evidence for it, but despite that, the accusations were very political against syria. so the relationships are always upside down and then they are a sprint came and started the ibm. at the beginning, they were hesitant in joining the regime. change were again, syria, by the late, late 2012, and they joined the gym, change a efforts against syria. and let's remember what happened in 2015, then the ban. so tom came um as the head of to saw the intelligence inventive. and so ton is a very he has a very close ties to the new york ones in washington dc. she was named best center and i saw the area in the united states for a very long time. he was named best 100 of the saw this in the united states when the 911 attacks happened. and now since we, we have new information about 2 of the hijackers who are most probably they were as it's uh for the saw the intelligence and the see i as well,

of course without them knowing that they are, i say it's, i'm no problem to be controlled thinks about the this person who has a mess of mind in the uh, waging um yeah. first like a tax terrorist attacks here. and there and bundle been switched on. ask the he called the other before the ministers, defense ministers, head off intelligence or private. this is, and he asked them to allocate to $2000000.00 to remove a shot aside from power. and this was confessed by the former for me to sort of cut off how many shifts i might have been just them who confessed that on the national cuts, i be tv and said that my number says don't ask this number. of course, they couldn't get or a 2 trillion dollars, but the amount was in my estimates at least $200000000.00. and if we compare the size of syria with the size of ukraine and the amount of support ukraine is getting them, for example, 150000000000 and didn't see a 200000000000,

and the size of syria is very small compared to ukraine. i would say the amount of supports that the sorrow, the is the car tardies that your detox gave to this, right? because you had this in syria are probably $5.00 to $6.00 times more than the current support that the americans underneath the allies are giving to do zalinski that he's forces and you're not too bad arguments in, in your current. so it was huge support. i would say yes, now there is, um, the circumstances have changed and they are also leadership changes in different countries. and inside the area, i would say more from admin solomon and it's his 1st 2 to 3 years. he was more of a war hawk. and he was involved in civil um military um engagements in the region in young man, and he will strengthening it on and he was blogging against it on and now it seems

that my him says from of been said, man change his attitude and it's very was coming because as far that it'd be as a powerful country and the amount of, i mean literally economic and religious power, that's sort of the idea of you have if it is used for development projects in the region, the region could boom in a way that is unprecedented, and it means that the media is quick turn into a new western europe. and i'm not exaggerating about that because the amount of was, that's all the, i mean it'd be a cuts are, and other countries have individuals if it's invested well. and it seems that they are determined to do so. now after to be closer to asians with syria and even in other countries. i'm very optimistic and i'm very happy to see that out of the countries. and our leaders are showing different attitude, not only towards saving about uh, toward the entire region, because this really reflect positively on people. imagine the money that they used

for destroying syria. i'm speaking about at least a $100000000000.00 for developing projects in syria. and for finding jobs, and i would say that syria would have been now similar to debate. and would that be in other more developed countries in the region who are witnessing it is strong in that they cannot make strength, but also in their infrastructure in their security. and i would say now with this, i'm due by and sorry, the it'd be our safer and the social welfare. i mean, they couldn't make what are there are way better than in western europe. for example, coming up next, the dragon appears in the desert. china dropping surprise, news that coffee us off guard will discuss it when we return with come work almost in so tight the m o will be right back the

the there's no us for t j a national security interest, and you created all, i would say there is no interest us interest in ukraine, whereas is there a vital interest for the russian federation that you pre be restored to

a neutral buffer state uh, separated from uh, from nato countries. the the welcome back to the m. o i manila chance people often forget that the middle east region is actually a part of the asian continent. as such, it should come as no surprise when the biggest country and asia steps in to mediate a dispute. we're talking about china brokering they talk between saudi arabia and iran, come work l marcia is by is back with us. thank you so much for sticking around to work. so perhaps one of the bigger surprises out of the middle east lately was that they taught between the saudis and iran that was broken by china. given the years of what many would describe as, as proxy wars between the 2 countries and various theaters in the region,

the separate diplomatic ties. why is there a revived bilateral relationship between saudi arabia and around right now specifically? and how did china end up the broker? actually, nobody saw that this data is coming. and so we haven't heard about negotiations between the sort of this and the into your audience, with the mediation of china. it was a surprise. we were all quick in surprise and it's a very happy news. and i would say there are different factors and is number one. the americans are up to the withdrawal from afghanistan and completely focusing on the ukraine on taiwan. and they have, they haven't abandoned me. the east, but their strength, they are very oversights. not right now. and if you see the cycle of any empires united states is living, it's the last 3rd of the cycle. so it's, it's, it's leaving, it's last 3rd of its empire period. and they have to prioritize their political

diplomatic, economic, and military capabilities around the world. so the moment the americans, we seen on a big, they pulled their hands from, from the region. there are other powers who came in to trying to fill the vacuum. and china is to be presenting, it serves as m as a power that can broker deals. a security deals and diplomatic deals and economic deals with these strong regional powers. but also, china is presenting incentives for them to make peace because the americans, they, for decades, they were using the divide and conquer strategy and turning neighbors against each other because it was a beneficiary for them financially beneficiary. and now when we say when, when i mentioned the united states, i specifically mean the military industrial complex. and those are being caught in

the hands of a few tiny and it's in the united states. so the united states, as an economy, as a people they are not benefiting from this proxy words or direct doors that are triggered by the united states. it's the only dis piney, it's benefit from it. however, china is giving incentives to this congress. it is showing them there is a possibility for economic integration between the chinese economy and these regional powers. and it's, it has presented, it's uh, for example, um, seems comfortable the initiative and how would you see kind of both the initiative can reflect on the economic welfare of the people. and when defense regional countries engage in economic integration, the chances for admitted to a conflicts between them also diminish. and this is a concept that china is presenting in the region. and i think it's very welcomed. and because the, the interest of china is in establishing peace in the region,

and the interest of the united states is to keep the agent in constant turmoil. so they are the 2 different approaches and both china, of course, it's becoming more who jump on in the region. and united also wants to stay here, do more in the region, but the approaches are different. and i think i the, because the saw these have a vision now and the economic vision and they are preparing themselves for the era posts or era. and they want to establish an economic hub in, in saudi arabia, create industrial cities, created technological cities in, inside the it'd be one of the examples that i heard recently. that's all data is building a c, t a and attracting a piece of technological city and attracting software developers and game developers to come to solid data. beyond that will look online games and people may

underestimate this but the future. and if you, if you see where are we heading to, into the digits in words, this could be a main hub in the region for software development and also for gaming development, for example, which will, and then each saw the it'd be a lot. and this is a concept of how might been settlement that all is important, but the not using the oil in development projects is a passive thing to do it, which saw the maybe i did for a long time instead of creating this industrial cities and then technology co, a technological cities, they were investing their money in the worst. they're investing it in creating a will have the schools abroad. they are using it for proxy words here and there. and now they have a different incentive. and, and i think the mentality plays in import control here. and it, it comes old to m b s from

a been sort of man. where do you like him or you hate him to. it doesn't matter. but she is doing what's in the best interest of sar, the area at the moment, and also for the original development. in my opinion. lastly, staying with syria after that box, us withdrawal from afghanistan, many thought the us might finally withdraw. troops from syria's eastern region were both the oil and wheat fields are. what do you for see happening there? are they gonna leave any time soon? i to the us occupation forces are in syria to 1st steal the oil, sell it to the black market. in turkey and sign in their presence in syria and also to cooksey for us is that they train deer owns 50 to 60000. they called them the serbian democratic forces. they wants to keep the order and the week away from thomas goes. so the fruit and the energy energy is very important for the

constructing syria. they want to hold that card for themselves and barking. it's probably in some other strategic side. and the width is um, it's a foot or a so there is an energy and foot board against against syria as what, in my opinion, when trump came to power, he wanted to withdrawal and he was serious about his intention to be true. but the pen thought going into ca went against him, and they told him this is the red line because they cannot withdrawal from their perspective from syria before achieving a ser, the striking certain deals most was and up until this moment that must, because it refuses to give concessions to, to the united states because in damascus, the, in their understood, in their understanding of international politics that things are changing in the region and in, in the global level,

especially after the ukraine work and with increasing pace of the, of the process for heading toward the market boulevard cbs is finding it. so if in a position that if the gift concessions with united states, they are going to be a time sooner or later that the united states we lose, it's gonna be in all cases over division. so why would they give a concession to the united states now and boost twice? and so there is this argument in damascus that of the day is going to come after the ritual of the turkish real compassion forces from syria that united states would be coordinate, that the turks don't want them there because they are training for additional dishes. the servants don't want them there, and they'll just saw this thing on the phone and force us with ritual from, from, from the region. so at least diplomatically speaking, they will be isolated. and it's the, the dimension is not sustainable because they have $900.00 a troops there. it's not like they have 9000 troops. they don't have advanced air

defense systems. so syria until this moment, they didn't engage and hosted. it is like a direct posted. it is against the us, so conventional forces. but if there is an administrator effort against the u. s. o, professional forces, then u. s. needs to bring its air force needs to bring its boots underground and it's very close to operation. and they don't want to do that, so i don't see the united states has a future in syria. they withdrew also know later. and we can use the statement of the former us investigator to syria, a word for it as an evidence for that that you said we're going to withdrawal from syria. it's better for the courage to strike a deal with the mosque was before withdrawing, leaving them behind, and abandoning them just like we did with our allies, enough kind of stuff. so my opinions are probably everything i've done must go should be uh, reconciling with the kurds in the eastern shore after you for it is striking a deal with them, giving them culture to rights, allowing them to teach kurdish endeavor schools and speaking kurdish in their

communities and it's allowed to speak good courage, but the official language arts of so you guys are a big and if you go to, for example, annual official center or offices, you have to speak arabic, not the kurdish. every country has its different components. we could do not divide countries on ethnic entity, just bases federalism in i would say in the countries that were divided, for example, like in germany, which was divided east and west. they were allies, the communist were here. it was very fragmented for it of it is them combines the fragmentation. but when you have a unified country, you do not further lies it and try to divide it into a different piece. it's just my opinion to work on last in award winning, middle east commentator, founder of seriana analysis. thank you so much for your time. thank you so much. all right, so there you have it. it seems like when the us leaves so called feuding countries

alone, a lot of good can happen in that vacuum despite mainstream media parroting state department talking points that the us must act as the world's police. because others might argue, their less police and more instigator. that's going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila. chad. thank you for tuning and we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o the what is the ukraine complex?

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