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tv   Interview  RT  March 4, 2023 5:30am-6:01am EST

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blue ah ah ah, children at saint and residential school suffered nightmarish levels of abuse, torture and child rape. and yet the office of the attorney general suppressed thousands of pages of police and evidence that identified the perpetrators in the
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school. i was electrocuted. twice. i was only 7 years or just too high for me. so for me to put me in the chair or by the law warriors to run over here to abuse somebody and run here and she kept solution with himself. some of them are, my relatives didn't make it, jackie, themselves, to death, over doses. but yeah, what it made me, it made me the person i am today because i'm afraid i don't give up with any investigations. were too often handled differently because the deceased was indigenous. so many of the worst criminals got away. the bishop's got away. the ones we've done, most of the damage never got charged. the me, mr. do again,
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thank you so much for taking some time out of your busy schedule. short to talk to us 1st like to start by seeing the evaluation basically where we are at now with the special military operation. its been a year. what's your assessment? where are we out now? how are things going? i think that's, and this especial military operation that now is something like the beek at are you and full scale war. so it started as a special military operation. now with good not deny that we are doing with the war and this war, this conflict. chris different layers. i think debt a on the 1st level. ah, we have now. the good all we can distinct div over the conflict of
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civilizations. precisely as several huntington has put it ah, some years before and we see how incompatible ah, between each other ah, those civilizations ration christian orthodox, traditional much more traditional ah civilization with hey, we inclination to the social justice as a heritage of the soviet time and base all the dream, although eternal greatness of russia online, hence, and modern western global liberal democracy pretending to be unique for all, all organization of society, of politics, of economy. and that's liberal globalism is other civilization, these,
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this civilization global western civilization pretend. and after the fall of the soviet union to become unique, while the only one that made ideal fukuyama was whom i have chance stole to speak to discuss a main idea. fukuyama shared, i think, by present administration of biden, that after the fall of the soviet union, there, there, there come the end of the history. and the history of the history means that western boss to modern liberal global order should be imposed on everybody or should be accepted by the people universally, and is regarded as unique system of values of rules and so on and so on. so russia now, is it conflict a gave this pretension over there? western morgan, global,
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a liberal civilization to beat unique. russia insists. no, you are wrong. we are other civilization with don't share your values. we deny universal meaning off your rules and we are going to establish multiple or world order. wister, russia independent fall totally, totally free from your influence. but as i say about the west moral compass, they're, they're constantly preaching the world about democracy, about human rights. and here they are basically supporting neo nazis that was seen in key as regime. how do they justify that to their own people? first of all, they tried to to high that for because we could not find 80 any hint, all these, these growing huge movement movement off. and that's if he cation of ukrainian minds. and that is that reality. but the west ser angeli
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denies that. so when a better not on a levy, one of the, of the main main room, the defenders all their liberal democracy on the global scale is meeting with a crana. nazis saying there are no, they are not nuts it, but they have. so i stick gas or layer as leaves and so on so that they try to hide, they try to, to, to, to hide this fact. but why such contradiction? where are the moral norms? because i think the west, as long as i understand the west thinks are in such manner. no, we could not, ah, by other way to create artificial nationalism in ukraine and to, to push you grandest of white russians. because they are not a ah,
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already they will be not rated. it would not be ready to fight for liberal wayllace because they, they dont don, don't mean any think 4 o present days ukrainian or some maybe for some ctp will of both population. but in general, for these traditional society, a little relish can not be that the main, the main goal to defend. so the need some think either and the most a radical form to 2 or more to create this artificial. so you, the consciousness is nationalist or radical formal and nationalism who of the ukrainian russia for big fascism and that is used by liberals, by global, at global liberals. because in their territories, they strictly prohibit any hint on patriotism. and they destroy any kind of nationalism of patriotism in their territories. but in you gram ah,
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the other hand they, they, they make it clear ish, i think they are, they account to use it. and after destruction of ukraine there will be nothing any more. so i don't think they, this is a seriously belief in the possible victory of ukraine. you grand will be a little disappear during this conflict. so there is no such big danger because of this artificial nazi creation as mug. no, sooner or later will cease to exist. there will be no, you're okay, no, no problem, no nazi. so they created that as exactly as the they have used isis. slavic state or islamic fundamentalism. i think nothing to do with this values of radical islam. the west cynically has used cars, used
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a guy and radical islam to at tech for soviet or socialist, a decrepit those regimes islamic world. so the, some, something like that we have in nuclear and now they have created artificial nazi paradise in order to destroy that. and now we're talking about the was, there are not only same statements like defeats and russia or women over russia. they are, they have forecast saying that russia will not only be defeated, but it will also fall apart. that will collapse and will break apart into several republics. for example, we had george friedman who's the head of the stratford geopolitical intelligence platform. he is one of those people who is coming out with statements like this, saying that russia will be defeated, no doubt about that. and also able to break up into republics. why is russia breaking up into republics in particular, beneficial to them?
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i think that is completely logic from their part because if russia will stay, ah, united, if russia will stay independent and sovereign. if russia, when russia increases, ah, more, its independence after their victory in ukraine, that war old will be not ruled by the west. so that is the independent, russia, with such, gro was off, but to, to consciousness during, could put in stime. it is the real obstacle to create the global world on the control of the west. how do you see this plan out in the long run? because right now i feel like we're sort of at a standstill. ah, because no one seems to want to negotiate russia, a seems willing to negotiate receive from i ukraine side. ah, that the west is encouraging now, talks and more,
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more supplies of weapons to make sure that they're equal with russia. i don't even know if that's even possible. so how do we get out of the standstill if the west continued to arm kiev, and russia obviously doesn't bag down. how do we come out of this? i think of 1st of all, in the present situation, the piece stalk, i'm possible, i'm possible for all all sides because we didn't liberated her fool territories of our for new subjects. and before this fool liberation, we could not re, could not stock be stock based on our condition. so the chief seeing our hesitation and her understanding a kind of difference between the image of invincible roger and our real a real state as well. sir thinks that a kind of,
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ah, and the change of the balance is possible with such huge aid and help, rav rav from the west, military and political intelligence. and structural are called from the wes, can a skis on the suggests or presumes can change their balance and to help them to liberate what they think are territories of your grand, including crimea. so and in that situation, nobody stopped to start sir, be stock and their west. the west is interested in continuing can fueling the conflict. so because the ac erosion failures they could do for my more and more arms and weapons, weapons stool, ukraine in order. little problem to prolong that. so every body isn't in position,
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nobody isn't position to do starts or bas stalks or i think, oh, the corporation that some side is ready to be stuck in present conditions is purely warts. so we could not, nobody is ready to talk a little bit stop bit a bit stalks can stop after some, ah, serious changes in when this still was still still stamp. see this so and there will be a kind of change of balance to one or other side. ah, after that it is possible. but the west says, well, if we accept this, if we allow russia sort of, if we give them an answer, they'll take a mile. so if we allow this to happen now than any country will think, well, we can go into any territory and change the course of the concierge teacher
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there. that's how they explain it. so in that case, will they ever accept any scenario where russia wins in any sort of way, even though as you said, a pains rush as the enemy, which is something that they need? i think that are the only only of material material resources that good are use to prove and are still dual or that it is use of nuclear weapon. but they could use nuclear repre. the west could use nuclear weapon in the the, the, when sedation will be critical for them. but to lead to russia, to re install it. it's gone through all the tours that during the soldiers refer already, arguer influence over azure without russia creating some existential threat. owns show edge for the west. it is not to move there. the final final situation,
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they will be not or blige to fight for ukraine because losing ukraine. they don't lose it either. they don't lose any think right now we're waiting for something to change the mentality. of people, we're waiting for something to change on the ground. we're waiting for something to change politically speaking to shift the conversation one way or another. as we've said to come out of the standstill, we're waiting for something big. i assume to make both sides act and do something to change. in the meantime though, russia is seeking new partnerships because of the west. it, of course, i is trying to cut off russia from the world, but the world is much bigger than just there are the united states in europe, of course, and we're seeing russia form partnerships with other countries. we know that it said looking into the global south, it's looking into africa as a continent and i do in partnerships with various countries. busy there how do you see this, these new friendship saw that ross is forming now,
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says to full as if that's a, the majority of humanity. ah, is some call on our, on our site some co looks openly, not fully now, but everybody will have um, positive positive results if that world will be multiple or so. russia, russian rectory in ukraine min immediately, multi polarity multiple out at the mince, emitted not only the achievement on full scale sovereignty geopolitical so in to, for us, but automatically, for china, that is already already other poll, 3rd bull. and we will, will happ immediately after our a victory. 3 poll, 3 polar world already meet. am there will india?
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that is for all, all musts mer, eddie force poll because india is a great space. a big civilization and huge counter was usually ma graphy, huge potential in economy and not participating. neither on the side. they'll do s lower on our side, india. good gain extremely or many, many positive results in the multiple or world not necessary. ah, being on the side of china, or, or the west by the multiplicity, or been submitted live mainly, possibility over the alliances of over that rearrangements all of the balance of power and the regional scale islamic world, all the islamic people leaving the multi polar world world court styled to defend seriously they, they, it,
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religious i'd to the end. death is impossible under a global global dominance of the eligibility plaza. ah, technological technol, centric technocratic wester of western head, gemini, is incompatible with his lamb. so islam, finally, after our week to re, will become the real player on the global scale, the not regional divide it and manipulated by the west. saw all the reasons for all most lives in the world to support are awesome. richter it be got it because it will be they are victory immediately the same for all, for the same is true for i let it america and the same is true for africa, but i don't think that they could seriously ah, help us. ah, meantime, before we or we can get this victory. so everybody really use
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the results, our objective results. oh, the rectory, but nobody will help us in the critical way. so that is very, very, very particular is at asian, we should win ourselves. and only, we mean mer lang own. oh, ah, our own powers. the other will build our side. we, in this war, we are fighting as well for the support of the other. you think that the united states or the last war ever allow their to be and molds high pole a world ever? or will it just puts hand to the allow it in the beginning, as you said, of in the, in the 3 scenarios he laid out of russia wins in every single one. but in one of the scenarios, the last, when's because it has an enemy, it has an enemy to fighting, always needs an enemy,
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but will not allow it even temporarily. i think that all the theoretical way ah, that was already accepted. why people like the semo huntington, the conflict on civil as of civilizations is waste as a theory, as the concept is based on recognition. all these independent sovereign, great spaces of civilization. so they, theoretically they, the west is prepare. it's as alternative to these contamination of globalization ah, for you and your polarity, and then to the history, there is a, the line over there. specialists in international relations that's already a deuce or wis of such in the, in the, in the veto bowl and the writable development, all for the room of change old ah, global architecture. and on the, on the other side,
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we had an real example of the acceptance of multiple, edited by president of united states in the gaze over a donald trump. donald trump heb my think it gates multiple oddity. and he was ridiculous against globalism and global liberal agenda. oh, there biden and democrat, so the half of united states is already prepared to accept a multiple or to because you can clearly in easily imagine the greatness of the united state of the west, the prosperity of the west, today's own, their own culture and their out technological development with other poles and they could, as buchanan has said, america the united states has gone the world,
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but has lost itself yourself. so it is a way it could put this praise otherwise. so america could now when itself and lead the world law. and of course i cannot help but mention the tragic tragic loss of your own daughter in all this. well, for the deepest and sincerest condolences you sympathize with your pain. so victory in this case for you in particular as something i would imagine that's personal, it hits home you know, i have no ranch. i couldn't. no, no sentiment of revenge for me. ranch will not mean victor. absolutely. so i could not blame the enemy because it is enemy at this
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a little bit. it has bit deep though it is difficult to accept the killing, coughing, innocence, innocent daughter, innocent girl, not participating in the military conflict, not financing. it's not being involved in the not participating in the full scale state propaganda. she just expressed your crown region had this kind of injustice. i feel it has just but i, i don't, i don't have any sentiment and feeling of revenge because i understand that and is, were i killing each other? we are the same people. we are russians and they kill us, also not sounds and we are losing our, our friends, losing our,
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our friends there. and, but they have their losses as well. and i could not think that, for example, killing many people of the enemy could compensate it. that last, not a lot the told that it makes the pain more more painful, i would say, but i think the victorious other think so. i think that victory is personal for myself. not because of the idea, but because of my people, because i'm part of it. i'm part of my people. i and my family and my daughter and my son and my granddaughter and grand a newly born in the grounds and my wife and all of us. we have bought a fresh and people and we could not super 8 our so our destiny, our faith, our mission from our people. and we could not say all
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this personal and that is common. it is the same for us and that is my, my, my life is started the degraded to service, to my people, to my civilization, to my culture, to my state where russia rations were deeply believe that we have some very special mission to accomplish the history in now, as long as i understand we are really near this critical and crucial moment and maybe because of deaths their bands so high and so deep. and so so unbearable because we are closing where we are close. we are very, very new to this final moment of our history when we presumed
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to go come pick some, some, some huge spiritual, spiritual act. mr. dugan. thank you very much for having our very strong man. thank here. second, with a with watch and it was a in control if i give it a shot now shorter one there, and i'm not trying to stay like, so could i even scan in or when i knew what that with that teacher just tell session on a national z m known lesson shylie. you get a newborn you sit on with that by mia?
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ah luis to come to the russian state. little never. i've side us on the north lansky with speedy one else with we will band in the european union. the kremlin. yup. machines, the state on russia today and school, or t spoke back, given our video agency, roughly all brand on youtube with,
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ah mm mm hm. but the not a or to go we use and i made it failed, but ideally chaslek knowledge was focus more of neat and clean. so keep, i keep them of record is of course the thing to even see if i mean from all to you all on when they were children ready and i have medicare. but as for you can throw this up here. but i think a call when you get a bunch of up pull, no other key for table a big much. but as it books, people come up with somebody about a fire that keep your payment for gold. and then finally for me to
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match last sided. so genia, i don't call my bad ability currency to deal because of the game, reviled immanuel good for the details of what i was looking at, paying the way to waste as to what i found in your cheerios. i was on saw vanda, capital children. i spoke with a human, you a new modem which we think will oh, a lot of western countries are very concerned. the china might be sending russia missile weapons as a way to help rush us military campaign in ukraine. personally, that's my just per personal view. i'm very suspicious of that on i don't buy dot to
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contradicts to what i see. the basic logic of behavior puts on the phone, the chinese state. ah, a russian troops close in on the city of bach movie or show almost scott's, he examines the destruction caused in the dawn bus ukrainian troops, gro critical infrastructure to hinder the russian advance, a neo nazi group, the claim, responsibility for a deadly attack in a russian border region, as the instance was coordinated with ukrainian military also, they saw a china says that countries seeking to impose their own domestic laws or the nations is a quote, i believe it shall not be tolerated amid a shifting world order, mozambique.

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