of i am daniel jadwe, a citizen of chile, originally from palestine, born like so many other palestinians around the world and the diaspora. chile has... is one of the largest communities outside the arab world. it is said that we are close to 30000, but we are millions spread across the face of the earth, far from our homeland, but committed to the identity, history and struggle of our people, of our land, which is and will forever be palestine. hello everyone, welcome once again in recent. days we have seen how the ongoing

genocide in palestine has continued with the full support and complicity of what is called the west, but what has attracted the most attention is the selective and surgical murder of journalists, writers, artisans, artists and all those who in one way or another represent the transmission generation after generation of culture and memory of the palestinian people. we seem to be facing a blatant attempt to erase from the map the... of higher palestinian presence that has thousands of thousands of years of history. let's watch the following video so we can delve deeper into this matter. veamos el siguiente video para que podamos profundizar en esta materia.

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en las últimas semanas en recent weeks, more than 100 journalists have seen their lives end in the midst of this genocide. they have accompanied hundreds of academics, teachers and writers, and this adds to a persecution throughout the world and is... sign of solidarity by those who put themselves in the place of the palestinian people. let's watch a video by hoda hijazi again to dig deeper into this topic. on october 7th the israeli regime began a brutal attack on the gaza strip which resulted in the murder of thousands of innocent civilians. media workers have not been an exception. the israeli regime killed more than 100%.

palestinian journalists as well as dozens of their families. according to reports issued by the organization, reporters without borders, palestinian journalists or targets in of israeli bombings while carrying out their work. this happens despite the fact that they always wear press vests that indicate who they are, and there is an international humanitarian law for the protection of journalists and press workers. since the beginning of operation. of flood, israel has tried to blind the eye of the truth and kill those people who spread the truth in the world. israel does not want the world to know about the crimes it is carrying out and it knows perfectly well the danger that these journalists can cause for the image of the israeli regime. along with the resistance, journalists represent a weapon against israely regime. journalists and intellectuals play a very important role in everything. of

israel has not only focused on murdering journalists, but also any prominent person from the gaza strip who raises their voice to inform the world. about the crimes committed of by this regime. some of the most important losses for the gaza society were the murder the writer habe abu neda, who was also a poet, and of course rafat, professor and founder of the organization, we are not numbers, which denounces the crimes and murders that the israeli regime commits against the palestinians. this way, israel's goal is to silence all the people who try to show the truth to the world. so far, we've seen patterns of... systematic attacks not only on journalists, but also on an educated elite group of doctors, teachers and engineers who have influence and talent, people who have the potential to lead society in the future. the purpose of israel is to try to paralyze society in the years to come

and make the people who find themselves in this place feel that it is inevitable and eventually they will have to be forced into expulsion. in the same way, the occupying regime also murdered the families of several journalists with the purpose of causing them greater damage with the loss of their loved ones to try to prevent them from continuing with their journalistic work. however, despite all the pain and mental and physical exhaustion, they have decided to continue with their work and their duty to transmit the truth in the palestinian territory itself. this population is known as the heroes of the truth. i feel that... it is very important for us that our voice reaches and is heard by the world, but this is very difficult when you have a military group that attacks journalists and other prominent people. i hope that our voice is heard, the voice of those who live here under siege and under attacks. we have message that must be

transmitted. people from abroad can put pressure on countries to stop these crimes. it is estimated that there are more than a thousand local palestinian journalist. reporters facing the same daily hardships as any other civilian in gaza. they are having difficulty accessing food and drink to cover their needs, despite the fact that they would simply be journalists without risking their lives in the exercise of their profession. the objective of the israeli regime is murdering prominent figures of palestinian society such as intellectuals, artists and journalists. this is attempt to hide the crimes it carries out against the palestinians in addition to hiding the truth. the palestinian cause, which is why the gazans assure that despite the obstacles of the occupation regime, your duty is to continue with the path of these defenders of the homeland freedom. huda hijazi, hispan tv, palestine. we thank huda hijazi once again

for this interesting report, and we cannot move forward without specifying that the most serious thing about what we have just seen is the complicity and media and journalistic. corruption that is rampant in the west and have become accomplices of this reality through their silence in our country. not even the college of journalists has been able to raise the voice of the people who are in the presidency and to of the guts to defend their colleagues who continue to be murdered day after day as part of this policy of physical and political extermination of the palestinian people. we're going to take a break and we'll be back. hoy vamos a volver a conversar today we are going to talk again with a person who was already on this program, she is a writer and she's a professor of palestinian literature in the diaspora, we welcome lena marwan who is with

us again, hello lena, how are you? muy bien, luego lo que hemos. very well, after what we have been seeing, i wanted to ask you about your particular perspective. what does palestine lose? in addition to the countless lives every time israel attacks and murders an artist, a writer, a journalist, a palestinian professional or a palestinian artisan, and in this massacre that goes far, far beyond what they call a war de lo que ellos llaman una guerra. bueno, gracias por esa pregunta porque. cuando pensamos en vidas, well, thank you for that question, because when we think about lives, sometimes we think or reduce lives to numbers, but lives are not just numbers of bodies or numbers of corpses under the rubble, but they're also a whole cultural production. for example, when i think of the dead children,

these children are also recipients of memory, continuators of a culture. every time a child is murdered, what is murdered is not only all their affection, but also all of the potent. and memory nation has, that is very, very important question, because that is precisely the objective or one of the objectives of thesign attacks on gaza, let's say the... of care for the palestinian citizens, for the palestinian nation has to do with the erasure of memory of nation. this memory is erased not only with the displacement of palestinians towards the diaspora, but above all with the elimination of those people who carry the memory, the cultural production, the language, the palestinian traditions, the music, the food, and all the history of the past, being able to bear witness to what has happened in a place is, let's say: very important, so it seems to me that there is also an element that goes beyond the pure

idea of body and has to do with cultural production, with memory, with language, with food, with traditions, it's very important to understand, well, israel has been working for decades on the extinction not only of the palestinian people. but also of their culture and history, to found a colonial state, you must effectively erase everything that was there in advance. let's move to two questions from the audience, who wants to consult? diego flores, hello, i'm diego flores, a pleasure to greet you, i would like to ask you how you have received the support and cease fire requests from intellectual writers the great european powers. good morning, my name is sylvia, thanks for the invitation. i

wanted to check the following: in europe, several countries have banned and repressed demonstrations in support of the palestinian people. the use of the cafia is even prohibited because it is considered incitement to hatred. and i wanted to know if this is also related to the influence of israel and a reflection of the extermination. eso. thank you very much for the two questions, lena, please. well, yes, thank you very much for the two questions. as daniel said previously, israel has been very effective in a policy of silencing the palestinian community and the sophisticated people who have wanted to support or are supporting the cultural manifestations, those are demanding sease fire. 'who want to put an end to this policy of removing the palestinian population from gaza, which is

one of the ideas that is currently on the way, as the only solution to the problem. as result, what concerns us the most is how israel seeks the long policy of annihilating the cultural manifestations of palestine and the vindication of its own nation. let's think about this old and very frequently used phrase by bengurian who said, "the old will die." and the young will forget. of course, the old will die, and it happens everyone, but there is also a politics behind this oblivion of the youth. for example, the deletion of the word palestinian, which is prohibited, right? today they prefer to use the word judea and samaria. this name is much more favored in order to connect the name of the land with the jewish community. on the other hand, the impossibility or the prohibition of the use of. the palestinian flag, which in fact is much more present today in chile in the palestinian stadium

than in israel itself and the occupied territories, and of course there is serious ban on the use of the cafeer in demonstrations. now all of this has to do with symbols that remind us that palestine still exists, that remind us of palestinian leaders like yasa arafat, and that is why the use of the cafea is being banned in places like germany. even in the united states, the use of the is called incitement to hatred, but in reality to what extent could a symbol that reminds us of palestine be incitement to hatred, those of course are manipulations of what national symbols mean, and of course manipulations of what it means to say wearing that scarf as a way of saying, "i'm palestinian to. let us remember that this idea of "i am also a berliner" was established by. has been a demonstration of

support for the palestinian community, that is why it's being banned, and of course this is prohibited, this policy is instigated, is supported and demanded by the regime of israel. the previous question had to do with the support of the world's intellectuals for the palestinian cause. i want to remind. that many female authors especially have been punished for their support of the palestinian cause. camilia shamse, who is neither a pakistani nor a british author, was stripped the nelissak. award, subsequently the european theater award was stripped from the greatest british playwrite named carol churchill, and more recently author adania shibly of palestinian origin, had a prize defert, and similarly, an author a russian jewish philosopher named masha, had a prize deferred and downgraded. orgessen, who was

also punished for just comparing the situation in gaza to the warso ghetto. these are always the... violence and suffocate voices raised for palestine, they want to intimidate people from the palestinian culture, philosophy and arts so that they remain silent at this moment. thank you very much, just as lena stated, one of the greatest successes in the last seven decades is that despite everything that israel does, despite all the war crimes, despite all the ethnic. cleansing that they have carried out during these seven decades, the palestinian nation has managed to rise and convince the world that they are the victims and not the perpetrators. we're going to take a break and we'll be back soon. we are now back to

continue learning more about the palestinian community in chile. the diaspora and today we're going to talk with esperanza marsuka. let's watch the following video to know more about her. esperanza, esperanza did not forget the students who marched demanding the freedom of palestine, nor the attack of the soldiers of the king of jordan against those unarmed people. she was seven years old and she never forgot the paint faces of mothers and fathers passing by with the body of their children at hand, burring them in a dramatic parade, picture that repeats itself to the... but this time because of other invaders. spranza was born in bethlehem. she arrived in chile in 1956 with her parents, her grandmother and her brothers. she has returned to palestine three times bringing little pieces of her home land. her house is full of objects that remind her of her childhood, traditional images, delicate crafts, culture that will be arised along with the hands that produce them if designist advance is not stopped. in 2019 she published

his novel de key a fiction based on his childhood memories and extensive historical research. that allows us to understand the struggle of the palestinian people from the 1930s to the mid-1960s when the zienius advance intensified, destroying houses, streets and orchards, leaving the protagonists of her book nanza herself with only a handful of memories and no home land patr. esperanza, esperanza, very welcome and thank you very much for accepting this invitation. i want to start by asking you the same thing ask everyone when they are here, when and under what circumstances? we arrived in chile in 1956 at the beginning of 1956 in march with my father, my mother, my grandmother and my brothers, well basically the reason for coming to chile was the instability there, we lived in bethlehem and

at that part there was the area of palestine that was not occupied in 1948, it was under jordanian rule and they... kept that part, and then well, i believe that the palestinians have always fought for their independence because they did not want anyone, neither jew nor jordanian, nor anyone, so well, i believe that the palestinians have always fought for their independence. i was super young, i was seven years old, and you saw on the streets and the demonstrations of students, young children in the center of the esplanade of bethlehem demonstrating, and then you see how the jordanian soldiers from the roofs shot at them. as i mentioned, this is what... always caught my attention, ruthless killings and then you saw the parade of mothers of families taking their children to be buried a row one after another, i think that that is something that impacts you for life, very terrible, it was a protective measure for all those children taken by your parents no doubt

tus padres y mi papá. was for my parents, yes, and my dad had been living there before because my grandfather traveled to chile in the early 1900s. he was here in 1920, he was in honduras and mexico, so my father spoke spanish, and they came back later when he was teenager, so he was kind of familiar with america. after arrival, what was the relationship that the family continued to have with palestine? beyond relatives with whom there were clearly a permanent connection and exchange, but the relationship with palestine as territory, how did it happen? at the beginning my grandmother with her relatives and my father travel to palestine several times and later, well i

traveled there several times too, and well i always maintained a relationship with my relatives, mark was my grandmother with her relatives, and after i got married with my husband's relatives who are from betsahur. several occasions on one of your trips, you surely visited the territories of 1948, what is known as uh israel by some, and in that land you have been able to make contact with

the palestinians of 1948. what is the feeling that you have today? how do you feel in quotes in this uh limbo between being israeli citizens but still being palestinian? took, which i actually took with my husband, i needed. i really needed to see the palestinians who are stuck there inside israel, and i arrived with tremendous anguish as i got to know the people. people were relaxing. i was in haifa and jafar and nazareth, which in reality nazaruth is palestine, the majority of palestinians, and i remember that i arrived asking about the hotel we had reserved, and young man greeted me. he was around 30 to 40 years old. i asked him about the hotel and i told him i'm from chile, but he immediately. came out to say that we are not palestinians, unless we say firmly that we are palestinian. he told me this: say that you are palestinian, and then we repeat this together. do you feel the

fervor of it and the identity it has? despite being 70 years old, maybe in hyper when you enter a place saying that you want to get to another neighborhoods, because they are neighborhoods, they the palestinians live in neighborhoods, they take you to their home, they invite you to what they have, they take you around, if you go to a restaurant and you know there, you remember people and it is the joy of feeling that you're seeing them. in a restaurant, they were carrying plates and i felt this is from us. what do i know? i mean, you really feel everything belongs to you. in fact, i left with the feeling that the palestinians who are living inside the area that is israel today, are much more palestinian than the rest of palestine. i mean, i know i felt so good. there is a strong feeling, i mean it is a combination of sadness and joy. it was an experience, i believe, one of the most important of my.

have family there and they are actually terrified because they can't go out, because deep down, i have no relationship with the people of gaza, but do have a relationship with people don't leave, that is tremendously important, media corruption and journalistic corruption a global level have wanted to turn this into a war between israel and gaza, however in the west bank more than 500 people have died in the last week, there were more than 500 imprisoned without prior trials and without any reason, as if they were preparing in quotes the exchange of prisoners with new

prisoners who have no reason to be there, huge number of young people have been taken prisoners, how do they describe the situation there for you? their situation is somewhat very similar to the communities that are in honduras as well, which are perhaps one could say the first two countries that have... he can't go out, he can't work, well this is in the cities, but in the surrounding areas, in hebron for example, there is the whole issue of settlers and in fact this is not

safe, i don't know because the criminals have been. hired, i don't know if they are of the jewish religion or not, but they are like, i think they are a selection of criminals who attack people in small towns, mistreat them, burn their houses, break their cars, and deep down, they're forcing people to leave because this is basically the big plan. of course, the idea of it is to keep gaza without palestinians and also the west bank without palestinians. it is a plan, and the people, well we are seeing they are resisting in gaza, so the situation is dramatic in palestine too. well, there are a lot of... people have been imprisoned and the idea was basically to exchange former captives, especially children. there are thousands of children who are basically imprisoned without trial, those administrative detentions, and the idea of hamas was basically to exchange captives with them, but there are more and more captive, so the situation has become super super dramatic. super dramática. your family comes from the city where christ was.

born and weeks ago, all over the world, new liturgy was celebrated. what is it like among the palestinians when the entire world is immersed in this worldwind of buying gifts and portying. meanwhile, in the land where christ was born, there is genocide and a process of ethnic cleansing, and the world pretends not to know about it. it caught my attention. i asked lot, no prayer is being said in christian churches at christmas time in the city of bethlehem.

every day in incredible numbers and in a genocidal policy the christian world with the soul exception of very pleasantly, yeah, the entire christian world and all western values seem to be dying out along with the faith. esperanza, i thank you very much for having accepted this invitation and for sharing with us you and your family's experiences in this palestinian diaspora. thank you so much, thank you.

of history in such a way as to make the people or nation that existed before this new colonial regime disappear in palestine, we have been experiencing this for more than a century, but it is not the first time. palestine has been subject to invasions throughout its history, and the is really simply come to actualize this need of some western powers to occupy and dominate the most geopolitically and geost.