hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm thanks so much for being with us, well it is d' 155 of this dystopian reality that we are

witnessing, the zionist regime continues with this genocide, and now the defto has risen above 30,800 palestinians in gaza. the united states says it will build a temporary port off of gaza to help get humanitarian aid to enter the strip, as the majority of the population is at risk of starving to death. but what does it? mean for washington to build a port to get food to the palestinians in gaza, and at the same time continue to arm the israeli regime to proceed with the genocide of palestinians. we'll stay with us as we look at that and lot more on this spotlight. i'd like to welcome my guests to the program. amal wahdan, human rights activists out of ramala. and saib shath,

author and west asia expert out of belfast, thank you both for being with us, well let's start in ramala and almal, in your perspective, okay, i think i've lost the connection with samal, do you hear me, can you hear me? yeah, yeah, yeah, i can hear you now, okay, okay, great, so why is the us building this port uh, but at the same time it's continuing to supply the israeli regime, i mean, what does it mean? well i think this is like a silly shared here by the usa, instead ofum going going around the bush, why don't they open the borders, open the rafah border, open karm abu salim and with hanun border, if they are really sincere and if if they are they want to solve this incredible of humanitarian crisis in gazah? which is

affecting almost most of the gadan people, over two million people, they there is another easy way, first seiz fire, she is fire now, they can they push the israelis for it, can they enforce sease fire on the israelis of course, if they supply them with everything they need, they should have the method and the tools to force sease fire on the israelis, okay cease fire is not working, how about the borders, the rafah bor, why is rafah border is closed in front of thousands of trucks who are you know l lined just you know away meters away from the borders crossing and abusalem the israelis claim that they send assistance to the palestinians through kar the us is as a you know power for

a superpower, they can do the same, there is millions of way that the americans can help the palestinian with, but the real thing is that the americans are allied with the israelis, they don't want to solve the problem, actually for them ethnic cleansing, they witnessed it in 1948, they actually accelerate, not accelerate, i mean, they helped. over palestine in 1948 and they helped with all the massicers that was happening, they the new york times and life magazine, whoever wants to go back in into 1948 massacers can't see they have documented every massacre that happened in palestine, the new york times was there, we are we are using their pictures that documents the massacers, so the americans were were...

there from day one, they wanted this area as a military base, the 1948 borders was not enough for them, they allowed the 1967. war and the israeli colonial entity um occupied the whole of palestine and occupied the syr the golan heights the occupied golan heights and seni so what is happening in in gaza now what is happening in the west bank what is happening in jerusalem in 1948 is all supervised by the us okay us have closed allies, so this is ashared, but it has other, it has other intentions. stay with me, stay with me, amal, let me get s, let me get in on this conversation, uh, saib, your take, what amal said, uh, do you agree with her that if the united states wanted to stop this

genocide immediately, that it could, and if you agree with her, what is it getting out of this? uh, the united states of america, of course, with one phone call, kind of stop uh... genocide, the united states of america have the zinus entity, it's own military base in the region, so the chief staff is biden here, he can stop that, but the united states of america is coming with gimmics or as am call, first of all of that floating port, the the main the main thing with it, apart from that we can witness all the western leaders led by joe biden encouraging the genocide, ingoing genocide in gaza and their aim, the end goal is to ethnically cleanse the people from gaza, and after that they will do the same in the west bank and 1948. the aim of this floating port is to encourage immigration of the starving, displaced

palestinian people. we know there is 90% of the palestinians in gaza are displaced now, they are hungry, they are lacking proper shelters and pr. proper medical facilities, so this is to push them to immigrate to europe or anywhere else when they start the ships comes into into gaza, why is the united states of america and the design entity not opening graf a crossing or the kam abu salim or the other aits or the other crossing, it's as we witnessed at the start when aid was coming. to the to anra and the palestinian local government in gaza, the is entity were shooting at the police, not to police the uh the cues of the people who is handing the aid, so they don't want any authority within gaza, they want to eliminate that, it means a

the crossing from gaza onland going inside, it means have to arrive to an authority to handle it and to distribute it, they if we witness joe biden denied from the beginning the numbers of deaths in gaza because he want to digitalize the palestinian authority in gaza which is elected in 2006, he want to ignore the mandate of the palestinian people given to this local government in 2006 and been elected and afterward, so he genocide joe is trying to say this territory now under his control and he gna do with. that what is fit, so so let let me just jump in here, so you're saying that you think that this port is being set up as a way for those palestinians who want to leave to help them leave, are you saying that that this is something that the united states is setting up uh basically continuation of the nakba to

get rid of the palestinians, it's exactly not even to people who the starving people, people when they spread pandemics among them with... they they are desperate, they want any kind of safety. when we witness last night in rafa, the tall building in rafary building was targeted and lots of people in middle of rafaah running and that's supposed to be in a safe area rafaah so there is no safe area, there is no sub home aid supplies, there is nothing getting in and they blocking all all the the avenues. so and they opening one corridor which will take them to cyprus, this is what the americans trying to do, but i i believe myself, the palestinal resistance will make sure this won't work, the united states of america now and the zin entity are arming some zienist agents for here and they

training them somewhere, i heard in sinai and they are preparing them to take control of the aid to distribute the aid which is coming. from the sea so that is mean this is the authority, the zinist entity and the americans want to impose in gaza and this is for what left from gaza then so and other hand we witness even cnn and a couple of days ago made a report about that they from erits the netsarem sorry area used to be called narim when the zin settlement was in gaza before they were evicted from gaza by the resistance they building a corridor to split gaza nearly into halves around four mile road to take it from salahdin road to rashid road to the design entity want to control the security of gaza strip while the americans

doing that corridor, so in the future they can send any troops in if they can discover any help for the resistance, so the whole project of what the united states of america is doing, humilating the palestinian by air drops and killing them as well, secondly giving handing over the the whole territory to the sign entity, helping them and a cleansing. as much as he can with the palestinian and displacing around the world, well staying with your sap, what do you think can be done, because uh, you've you've just said talked about this scenario, um, and then you talked about the palestinian resistance, but on the other hand, as you said, we have these people who have been under so much pressure and they are starving, although they have shown unbelievable strength and and faith, so in in in your perspective, what is the role then of the? palestinian resistance and all of this at this point to be able to prevent it from happening, you see the the

the americans genocide jo and the zist entity and lots of the elites, ruling elites in europe, look at the palestinian children and women and and people are not, they look at them as the child gonna be a freedom fighter in the future, so they are legitimate targets to the zianist entity and the the the... "look, they have to cleanse the palestinian people from there, otherwise those people can mushroom another resistant in the future, that's what they they think, they think already they're nearly going to eliminate the palestinan resistance, but they are mistaken, the only the only sore hands they holding the palestina resistance from is the population because the they are targeting the attacks against the people, starving the people." uh targeting the the civil infrastructure, but the resistance is directing massive blows

against them, and they these the the design entities, incubation forces in gaza, they they know they are receiving huge blows in there, the resistance under the ground, over the ground, beside the rubble, in in the destroyed towns are are in control at the minute, and they will make sure this project the united states of america will fail, you're... take unside analysis of why the united states wants to open this port? first, it wants you to fool the whole world, first the palestinians and the arab world and the majority of the people of the world who are demonstrating in millions in the streets every every week as we witness them on the news channel. second, they want footstep. i think this is a way of indirect occupation.

when you see when you see that they want to build a port just offshore gaza and a thousand marines are going to be involved in this, it's an indirect occupation. you know that there is geopolitical situation here, there is... an alternative route for the gas, as you um probably know about it, coming from india to the united arab emirates, to the saudi, saudi arabia, then to gaza, to gaza, to europe, from gaza, it goes to cyprus or it goes to turkey and then to europe to counter the north stream one and north stream 2. and also to um you know counter the road and the

the built and the road, the chinese initiative that in the different continents, so this is a global a global war that is going on, and if the us crosses you know the lines, the limits, we might be in front of a regional war or a global war, now the resistance, i'm sure that the resistance is full aware of what's going on, and with the americans scheme, and they will consider any foreign troops on the... aga soul or water is an occupying power and they will treat it exactly as they do with the israelies so there is no chance for biden or the pentagon or any of their allies that the british are involved in this the united arab emirates as a superpower in the region you know they are

involved in this of course to finance it that's why they are needed by the us to pay for it. and cybrus is involved, so this is a whole scheme orchestrated by the us in order to make to make footstep here in the area, they knew that the israelis didn't do their job, five months now, almost six months now, 155 days, the resistance didn't give up, on the contrary, the resistance is inflected. think so many casualties among the israelies, the economy is filling falling apart and the the army itself, the military establishment, the security establishment is falling apart, they are you know officers, high ranking off officers are resigning from their posts because of what's happening, because they are

not satisfied, they are not seeing a goal, an end to this whole... war that has been going for five months now, so if israel is failing, the us thinking, thinking that they will succeed in this, although the late you know the the defeat that they are having in ukraine, the defeat that they faced in afghanistan, the proxy war of 12 years in the arab world and... and the surrounding region, this all proved that the us could not achieve any of its geopolitical goals in the area, and now the whole game is in the air, whether the americans will hold back or step back or they will continue with their um aggression

against the area, and the palestinians and the gazans are... in the face of this whole thing, the west bank, the west bank is another another battlefield here, and no one cares what the settlers are doing, no one cares what the israeli army is doing, and the us comes with the two state solution, goodbye, two state solution is already dead, 30 years, nothing happened with that illusion of palestinian state, so so let let me just jump in here, let me sab been on this so sab says so the whole game is is in the air at this point in time so so is this the situation is happening in gaza basically the line now between this transition of this unilateral world and multilateral world that right now gaza is uh central into this battle

and and the transition do do you see that as part of it? yes has give the opportunity, but the only global powers who is taken advantage of this is only the regional global power, which is like iran, but in the other hand, the chinese and the russians, they are not moving forward to weaken the american position, that's why the united states of america is become vicious and become so intent. in defeating the resistance in gaza, because as i agree with with almal, the this zionist project, which is an entire domination project for the united states of america and the region is on reverse, the palestine resists and put this project in reverse, i will give it date from 2005, when

they put make them and their settlers run away from gaza at the time we their own and the same thing, the libanese resistance 2006 directed a massive ablow after the year 20 when they pushed them of lebanon, so the whole project is on reverse, but the united states of america, as we seen in the 8th of october when with the whole western leadership came to show up this zianist entity and the sattlers as well who fled from the south near gaza and the north near lebanese border to ensure they will be protected and will return to their homes, because without them there is no project, this is a tool for the united states of america to hegemanize west asia with its oil, with it. transport a throwing humany of west asia, it can control the growth of the china and the existent as a super power of china in the future, the chinese is not the grasping

the chance now an effective manner, nor the the russians, they are too selfish players, they didn't see the global opportunity in front of them uh to give it a proper kind of analysis. and to get involved more in it, so the palestinian resistance here and the resistance camp within west asia being heavy price, but there is no global power to grasp the opportunity as i see it. what about that? do you feel that the united states uh sees the beginning of the end of the israeli regime and it is trying to do whatever it can to shore up that front uh because of its own interests as saib has said. yes, of course, they don't, that's why they are supported the the entity, the colonial zenist entity from the beginning, the it's like a military base

for them, you know, in front of the eastern powers and in front now of the multi polarism powers that is rising, so yes of course they want to support the israelis and we saw them, we saw the europeans, they um wanted... or they are supporting israel to defend itself, defending itself means the destruction, the total destruction of gaza strip, it it does it mean to kill over 31 thous people in addition to those under the rapel, does it does it mean to displace one and a half million people? look, gaza is like a battlefield of the second world war, this is... "it cannot be accepted, it cannot be tolerated. i agree that russia and china should play a bigger role here, should play a

decisive role here, and we ask these questions, and we we we raise our voices that diplomacy is not enough, and international organizations, you and you and security council are not the right tool, because america..." is blocking the way, they know that these organizations, these global organizations like the security council is not working, so so why why do you think the russians, why do you think the russians and chinese have not gotten more involved? i know that the russians are totally involved with the war in ukraine and they are you know contained with what they are doing politically and diplomatically within the international arena. but they know the international and they were criticizing the united nations role for for falling or failing to do its part according to its

chart, why? because the american is controlling, the americans are controlling the the un, and china, china and its diplomacy of you know solving these problems probably um, they don't want... to get that involved, although the chinese are renting the ha port, they have footstempt in our land, on our land in hafa board, and they bought several of what we call um, sovereign entities, big companies that the israelis had built before 1948 on our land, so the... "the chinese know the threat that israel poses to their r and the built initiative, they can't go ahead with this initiative in this region,

in this part of all right, i'm so sorry, i'm so sorry, only have 30 seconds left, so i mean it, it doesn't seem like a cease fire is going to take place before the month of ramadan, what is it going to take to stop this genocide in your perspective? i just want to correct something, the inha, it's india. indian companies those took over uh before that was the chinese yes and the the chinese always as amel said they will try to play a diplomacy but they are losing here if they want to sustain their silk route they have to be involved i called upon them in an article 2012 with the russians to help in syria because losing syria it will be devastating for both of them the russians moved in chinese playing economical games and i'm so sorry, i'm so sorry i have to in here but we are really out of time, i appreciate both of you, so sorry, i'm another show hopefully we'll talk about human rights

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