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that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight, donald trump so- called fake electors have been charged in arizona along with key trump aids after a year- long investigation by the state attorney general. plus, we are hours away from supreme court arguments on terms total immunity claim. and what to expect in the very busy day ahead. then, and idaho dr. is here talking about the real-life impact of the states abortion ban while the battle plays out in the nation's highest court is the 11 downer -- the 11th hour gets underway on this wednesday night. good evening. once again, i am stephanie ruhle and we are now officially 195 days away from the election and tonight, donald trump is now unindicted co-conspirator

number one in a sprawling criminal case, another one, involving our elections. 11 fake electors who supported trump in the 2020 election have been indicted by an arizona grand jury. this comes after a year-long investigation by the state attorney general. one month after the election, 11 trump supporters signed a certificate claiming to be arizona's electors. but, president biden won the state by more than 10,000 votes, and his electors were certified. among the people facing charges, kelly ward, the former head of the arizona gop, and two state lawmakers, key trump allies also indicted including rudy giuliani and mark meadows. donald trump is of course already facing 88 criminal charges in four separate jurisdictions and in less than 12 hours he will be back in court for another day of testimony in his new york criminal trial. at the same time, some of his other attorneys will appear in front of the supreme court on his behalf.

tomorrow, the court will hear arguments related to trump's claim that he has total presidential immunity meaning that he is shielded from prosecution in a federal election interference case. it is trump's latest tactic to delay the jack smith's case and so far, the supreme court has not made much effort to resolve it quickly. in the north new york case, we are still waiting on a decision from judge mershon about whether trump violated his gag order. we are also expecting to hear more testimony from david pecker, former friend and ally of new york trump.

>> so much has happened. a lot of people are going wait a minute, what was the fake electors scheme again? >> it's true it watches over us, so much happens during the day but this is a brazen attempt to steal the election from the rightful winner. they will all get together saying we will sign certificate saying we are the rightful electors in arizona which of course they're not and they know they are not and they conspired to do it with some pretty high up associates of the former president, including mark meadows, including jenna ellis, including rudy giuliani. we see it as just another chapter, but really, if you stop and think about it, it is a serious effort to steal an election. it holds serious penalties, and involves people who could really give damaging testimony against the former president, who is unindicted conspirator number one in this

one. >> two weeks before these fake electors sign that certificate, donald trump himself called in to an arizona hearing on election integrity. i want you to watch this clip. >> i want to thank you. we are going to win this thing. we are not giving up ever. we lost arizona bite 9000 votes. that's a tiny fraction. that would be a half a day on a couple of hours of checking and we didn't lose the state. we didn't lose the state. we won it by a lot. i want to thank rudy and his team for doing such an incredible job. we are going to fight. we are taking it up all the way. we have additional cases being filed, probably tomorrow, in wisconsin and in georgia, and they are good cases. they are very strong cases by great lawyers with great facts. >> those two people you saw in the video were two of the names harry just mentioned, rudy giuliani and janet ellis. i want you to walk us through

this because when we say our democracy is on the ballot that washes over a lot of people. again, what do you mean? we mean this and how important is this in terms of this case going to court? >> on an individual basis and as harry said, this stands alone. this is an extremely damning case and if you look at it from georgia to nevada to michigan to the january 6th case -- the gamut of this thing, it is sprawling and damning both collectively, certainly, but also in its individual cases i think what is interesting about the arizona case is that it adds another layer of all this. to some degree, like the georgia case, it is a local case. it is a state case. it is outside the reach of the federal government and the power pardons, certainly. also, like georgia, if there is

a trial it's going to be televised so these are two specific to this to states at work here. it kind of localizes the issue in some ways and it is damning but also damning in a unique way people in arizona can pay attention to. again, i think if you look at it in terms of a small and a big issue, this is another instance of it sprawling in many directions. >> you know, i was trying to diagram out all of the different defendants. you can't read my notes. i could be a doctor with handwriting. >> let me tell you, these are some nerdy notes. >> here is the thing. as a prosecutor when i was handling gang cases and rico cases, i wanted to develop as many cooperating witnesses as i could. and what did we do? we tried to pressure people. we tried to drive wedges between people. we have a saying in d.c.

circles, pressure bursts pipes. look at the charges against somebody like a rudy giuliani. rudy is unindicted co- conspirator in georgia. he is an unindicted co- conspirator in d.c. is unindicted co-conspirator in arizona, and unindicted co- conspirator in michigan based on the new reporting. he has his law license suspended in new york and d.c. pending disbarment. he owes the election workers $148 million. how much more pressure can some of these people take before they decide okay, i'm going to give up the ghost. it's time for me to cooperate. jenna ellis, i think is an interesting one because she pleaded guilty down in georgia. now she pops up is unindicted co-conspirator in arizona. usually, defendants like to resolve their cases globally. they like to plead guilty and all of their cases so they can get as much benefit with the

prosecution -- >> maybe she didn't see this one coming. >> maybe but i would've thought she would have because chas broke cooperated down in georgia and he is probably cooperating in arizona. that's why i need the diagram. it is hard to make these pieces fit at the moment. >> what does an unindicted co- conspirator mean because that is what trump is in arizona and in michigan. what does it mean, a and does it mean down the line he could be indicted? >> exactly. remember, donald trump is the indicted defendant in the d.c. election interference case and there are multiple unindicted co-conspirators like mark meadows, andrew lee giuliani -- rudy giuliani and city powell. that means they are going to be indicted at some point.

i think the reason jack smith is waiting in the d.c. case is because he wants to bang out the trump case, resolve it, then he will go after the unindicted co-conspirators but let me add this to complicate matters even more. just because you are an unindicted co-conspirator does not mean you will necessarily be indicted. like i say, lots of moving pieces. >> okay, not necessarily, but he is now facing this on top of 88 criminal charges. if you are on donald trump's big legal team -- he has some in new york tomorrow, he has some in d.c., what are you telling them tonight? >> please don't fire me but look -- >> why would he? he needs the help more than ever. >> but it's a good way to get a delay. one thing that someone does for a lastgasp effort to get a delay is fire their counsel, which they are permitted to do than say i've got my new council and i need that person to get up to speed.

judge merchan will not permit it. he will say you have to keep counsel there. it will be fine but let me get back to this big diagram and try to simplify it. two cohorts of indicted people -- the 11 folks in arizona who are unlike the trump loyalist in washington. they have careers to consider. they really are low hanging fruit to cooperate. some of them actually spoke with trump but certainly the other seven and now you go to that seven, the jenna ellis, rudy giuliani, everything glenn said, and one more thing, they are broke and jenna ellis is broke, so the pressure is also financial pressure to defend this case and what do you do if you are broken you have a lot of pressure? you cooperate for you can and that means that this case increases the already intense pressure on trump. >> pressure bursts pipes. mark, this arizona story is coming out while all of these other trump cases are going on.

it feels like a legal tsunami and we are now just over six months away from the election. what are voters likely to make of all of this? >> well, i think there is a big blur factor to this whole thing. there is a lot of legal stuff washing over everything but if you buy the somewhat simplistic notion, but still an important notion, that if the conversation is about trump and trumps legal troubles and things that trump says day today and they're not focused on say you know, in arizona, things like the border or inflation, that biden has been vulnerable on, this is all very good set of facts for the biden campaign and it's not good for trump to be talked about in this way over a long period of time. it also looks like it's going to be a long haul. it is just an exhausting thing to try to follow, but also as has been mentioned here, it is extremely central to the democratic process and you know,

every day it is going to be clear that this is a major story going forward in this election. >> glenn, could this arizona indictment affect any other cases? >> it sure could. there is a lot of cross pollination of defendants. i was a little surprised down in the georgia rico case. 19 were indicted. four pleaded guilty pretty early on and then all cooperation seems to have stopped, and 15 are pending trial in georgia but now, there are indicted defendants in common. the georgia case and now the arizona case, and because pressure bursts pipes, it may very well be that this will help produce more cooperating witnesses because if some of these people plead guilty in the arizona case, those same defendants who are pending charges in georgia will almost certainly want to resolve the

georgia case, as well, so it could help the fani willis case. >> the georgia case, why is it quiet right now? the last time we were talking about it, we weren't talking about any of the defendants. it was all about fani willis. it's been dead quiet since. >> it has. there was that long distraction and now that is behind us, i would expect to see, for example, judge mcafee finally set a trial date. there was a request long ago from fani willis for an august trial, for at least the first wave of defendants. i don't know if she can try all 16 at once. we usually parcel out the reason -- rico defendants when we have that many but it has been radio silence. we don't even have a trial date set down in georgia. that is probably going to change soon. >> all right, don't go anywhere. everybody is sticking around.

when we return, we are going to dig deeper into trump's big legal day tomorrow. not only is his new york trial picking back up, but our nation's highest court will finally here this historic community claim and later, federal law requires hospitals to provide emergency care. that is how emergency rooms work but does it overwrite idaho's strict abortion ban? the 11th hour just getting underway on a very important wednesday night. a very importat wednesday night.

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so, ditch the other guys and switch today. buy one line of unlimited, get one free for a year with xfinity mobile! plus, save even more and get an eligible 5g phone on us! visit xfinitymobile.com today. tomorrow will be a very big day for donald trump. he will be back in court in new york for his criminal trial while some of his attorneys argue his presidential immunity theory in front of the supreme court. harry, what are the chances the supreme court agrees with trump on presidential immunity? >> zero. at the end of the day, trump will not win based on immunity, but the game here that everyone is focused on is the timeline, because what the supreme court

may well do is state some broader principle of when presidents sometimes, not trump, our immune and that itself could add a month or two to the already leisurely schedule there following and it could pretty much eliminate the prospect of a trial on this most important of cases, i would argue, this year. >> liz cheney has been making the point that the supreme court basically has to get on it because if they don't, this is never going to see the light of day, and all of the evidence that jack smith has put together -- the american people should see. >> how quickly did the supreme court resolve the question of whether donald trump could be on the presidential ballot? like that. now, this leisurely pace they have set while the american people are waiting to see whether come november, when we go to the polls, people are going to be casting their ballots for a complete --

convicted felon or an exonerated man. i share harry's concern that if the supreme court decides they want to talk about outer perimeter immunity, maybe if you can commit a little light treason around the edges, maybe the president should have immunity for that and if they send it back to judge checking for evidentiary hearings on questions like that then we are all kind of screwed. then the trial gets pushed will be on the november election. if they resolve it and resolve it quickly and judge chtukan puts it back on trial, we will be screwed. >> donald trump will put it

back in the grandest possible fashion. that is kind of the point here. these supreme court arguments about a presidential candidate claiming that the president of the united states should have total legal immunity. call me naove but this seems like a vitally important thing for our country to understand. do voters see it that way or is all of it just noise at this point? >> i think both. i think voters probably do see it this way. the idea that the president can't be held accountable is absurd but at the same time you add it to the larger spectrum of noise, you know it becomes much less compelling. i do think that this is kind of a big bang trial. if it goes to trial in oh, august would be a perfect scenario for people who want to see this play out. you are going to see a bunch of facts and very damning testimony potentially and i'm sure liz cheney has some visibility on this given her work on the january 6 commission that is going to be

a very big story. this did not take place in georgia or arizona or michigan. this was the writ large of election interference and it was a raid on the capital and everything that we saw on that horrific day so that will be adjudicated and i think it is the most palpable part of this whole story and of that becomes front and center in the last three months of the election i think it will become very powerful. >> glenn, let's focus on the new york criminal trial. david pecker, longtime ally, friend, associative donald trump is now the first witness for the prosecution. look at donald trump's behavior. he trash talks anyone and everyone who does not side with him. yet, he has been radio silent when it comes to david pecker . he is railing on michael: every day tomorrow and yesterday. what does that tell you about

david pecker? >> it tells me one of two things. who else does donald trump never criticize? judge aileen cannon because he thinks she is still going to give him a solid in the documents case in florida. with respect to david pecker it is either because sometime he thinks david is going to do him a solid in his testimony come tomorrow. i think that's unlikely because pecker is under a non-prosecute agreement. if he starts saying good stuff he could be prosecuted. or, pecker knows where even more of trump's bodies are buried so he's a threat. he doesn't want to antagonize pecker but he also hasn't said

anything bad about hope, so i think maybe he's trying to see who his true enemies are and who still may hold out and do a little something for the donald. >> harry, my colleague, john allen, wrote an interesting piece today for he said trump's legal team is spending an enormous amount of time discussing that donald trump should not be referred to as mr. trump. he needs to be referred to as the president of the united states. they are spending a huge amount of time in court doing this. this will have absolutely no impact on the outcome of this case. what does that tell you about their priorities and their focus? >> it sounds asinine but it is part of a bigger problem for them. he saw his lawyer absolutely bone chilling words from the judge yesterday, you're losing all credibility with me. why is that? because he is continually forced to take positions that make trump look good even if

there is no support for them. >> look good to whom? i don't care if you're calling me a chimpanzee if you're going to get them -- me off here. shouldn't that be the focus? >> it should be the focus and what's the best strategy? to say yes, my client is a sleazebag but he's not a criminal. that would've been the normal strategy. can't do that with trump because trump is sitting there and he is the worst client of all time and he will be apoplectic at his lawyers, so it's true. he wants to be mr. president but it is more than that. he constrains his lawyers in ways that very much undermine his own legal prospects. >> i want to talk about mr. president joe biden. donald trump keeps complaining on and on that he should not have to be in court, that this trial is keeping him off the campaign trail but today, there was no trial and the biden campaign put out a statement

about trumps campaign events today. he had none. does trumps an activity today just show you that he doesn't care whether or not the trial is going on? he had a day today to be in wisconsin or arizona or florida. he did not do any of that. >> yes, i think in fairness, he had one day but it is pretty clear that he does not want this trial to be going on. he does not want to be sitting in there all day but the larger point is this. there is no other traction getting out there for this campaign and i guess he had a day in north carolina last weekend but it was kind of rained out because of the storm so other than his legal troubles, there is just really no part of the trump story we are hearing about right now and he has predicated much of his political fortunes at this point on victimization, on been under siege, and being unfairly prosecuted and what have you and a lot of his supporters identify with this and more of them will do so. i guess that's a big part of

the strategy but it does not look like it is fun and it's not fun to listen to and does not look anything like a campaign is supposed to look like. it does not make a case for any reason why anyone would want to vote for him. >> mark, harry, glenn, great to have you all here. before we go to break, a quick update on our dj t tracker. the stock closed at $35 per share today, up more than 9% from yesterday but also today, trump media ceo, a name you may have forgotten, devin nunes, he asked house republicans to investigate what he says is illegal manipulation of the stock that is being done by people trying to drive the price down. to that, i say, good luck. i'm happy to head on down to florida and give you a tutorial on how stock manipulation works. it's not happening but for you, we are going to keep watching truth media stock and make sure

you know what's going on every day. when we return, another abortion case ends up at the supreme court and it could determine abortion access and emergency rooms across this country. an idaho physician breaks down the high stakes in her state when the 11th hour continues. n . voltaren, the joy of movement.

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the supreme court today as the justices debated the controversial idaho abortion ban. idaho is now contesting a lawsuit brought by the biden administration which says the man restricts abortion care in emergency situations but that argument did not appear to win over some conservative justices. >> baby loss is so common. it happens to so many families. >> reporter: when jennifer atkins learned she was pregnant and due on halloween, she and her husband playfully nicknamed the baby spooky, but when she went to a routine doctors appointment at 12 weeks, her doctor said the baby likely had turner syndrome, a wet rare condition often fatal unlikely to put jennifer's own health in jeopardy. >> they said we are surprised that you are still pregnant given the severity of what we are seeing on ultrasound. most people would've miscarried by now. i was just in total shock. >> when she asked about her options --

>> they said well, because we are in idaho there really aren't any for you because your baby has a heartbeat, we can't terminate the pregnancy. >> reporter: the scope of idaho's near-total abortion ban in front of the u.s. supreme court today. the band went into effect after the court overturned roe versus wade. the state now allows abortions only when the mother's life is at risk, not her health. doctors say that puts them in a dangerous bind. >> it makes no sense that we are just going to wait until you are on death's door. >> reporter: are you worried someone is going to die? >> that's what i worry about the most. >> reporter: in court today, the biden administration argued idaho's law directly conflicts with the federal law that requires hospitals to provide patients in an emergency whatever treatment necessary to stabilize them. the liberal justices appearing concerned. >> her life is not in peril, but she's going to lose her

reproductive organs and yet idaho says sorry, no abortion here and the result is that these patients are now helicoptered out of state. >> reporter: but, idaho's republican attorney general says the federal government should not get to dictate state laws on abortion. >> the u.s. supreme court needs to make it clear that when they decided on dobbs they meant that it is up to the states to decide whether they could have life-affirming legislation or not. >> dr. caitlin gustafson joins us now. she is a family physician in idaho and the copresident of the idaho coalition for safe healthcare. thank you so much for being here. i know you were at the courthouse today. what did you make of these arguments? >> thanks for having me here tonight. i think first of all, it's important to point out how shocking it is that we are at this moment in time for we are hearing in court that we have to defend the care of our

patients, the standard of care for our patients when they're facing pregnancy complications that threaten their health, that potentially are life- threatening, so that was certainly my first impression today, taking that all into account and where this has really taken us over the past two years. >> how has this impacted your patience? what are you hearing from other doctors? i am imagining there is no way you ever thought you would be in this position when you became a doctor. >> yes, none of us trained for this. none of us prepared for this moment. we spent years training to be physicians and to follow a standard of care and provide the safest, best care that we can for our patients. this moment is tremendous and the fact that we are having to again, as i said, defend the care that we know is safest, that we know we have to offer often in a time sensitive manner to our patients, and this truly is breaking down the safe system of healthcare in idaho that we once had, and

lucky that i've been able to practice in idaho for nearly two decades and i never thought i would see this moment and the impact this has had on maternal healthcare and actually really, healthcare in general in idaho. >> the problem is not just in idaho. the associated press is reporting that since roe was overturned, complaints that pregnant women have been turned away from emergency rooms have spiked across the nation. a dangerous is this? in our minds, the emergency room is the one place you go that cares for you no matter what. at least, we would like to believe that. >> absolutely. it is not safe to be pregnant and idaho or states like ours where there are near-total bands that prevent us from intervening in those time sensitive emergencies.

we are really facing a time that is unprecedented in maternal health, and going into this, we are really facing provider shortages. we have been facing declining paternal health overall and higher maternal mortality, particularly in rural states like mine for patients are already traveling longer and longer distances to get to care, and we had this on and the impact to the safety of our patients is really of the utmost concern at this point. >> for people who argue let the states decide, is this what the people of idaho want? >> well, i think we heard today we need this protection. we have to have this protection. all of us doctors grew up and understand that we have always understood that mandate that every patient would come to the e.r. and received the emergency care that they need and that they deserve in that moment, and then to hear that question, whether our pregnant patients should be included in that,

that our state has really excluded the care that they need in the most critical moments in their health and potentially in their life, that is the difficult moment we find ourselves in now. >> thank you so much for being here tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me. when we return, the war on junk fees gets kicked up a notch. president biden is making airline travel less annoying when the 11th hour continues. eg when the 11th hour continues. we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy!

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>> the biden administration has taken on junk fees, those hidden charges company's used to make you pay more. for example, we are making airline show you the full ticket price up front. refund your money if your flight is canceled or delayed. >> i'm here for that. the president has officially made good on that commitment. today, his administration unveiled two new rules for airlines requiring automatic cash refunds and prohibiting surprise fees. it is the latest move in biden's push to protect american consumers. back with us tonight in person to discuss, max rose of new york. henry galen is here, cofounder of the lincoln project. he also has worked on a number of gop campaigns including john mccain, arnold schwarzenegger and george w. bush.

today we have these new airline rules. by the time these benefits kick in, are people going to even realize that it was president biden that made that happen? >> sure. i think it is the responsibility of the biden team to remind them and remind them over again. what has been fascinated with this, the announcement about the implementation, is the republican response which is oh, he's playing politics. is playing politics because he and his administration did something that helps people, helps their pocketbooks, helps the average person in a frustrating moment. this is ridiculous. he's playing politics. what the hell do you think is supposed to be doing? >> what is your impression of republicans? >> just like the ultimate dork but in reality, though, this is why all too often today's

modern political discourse, you actually can't listen to the opposition too much because no matter what you do, they will stand up and criticize it. either the administration as being elitist and ignoring the pocketbook concerns of people, or when they are doing that they are just pandering and playing politics. good policy is good politics, and this is both an we should celebrate that. >> do you think it will impact president biden in november? >> i don't know about that but the good news is you have someone like a pete buttigieg who is secretary of transportation. this rule came out of the transportation department so it would not surprise me if you see secretary beat -- pete out on the road a lot? yes, he has been already. like max said, this is good for

people. >> while trump is sitting in trump tower today having no campaign events or sitting in court in a criminal trial. >> yes, it's better to be doing something for the people then going through this yet again. >> to be on the trail or be on trial. yesterday was a primary day in pennsylvania. a closed primary, no surprise. on the republican side, nikki haley received more than 155,000 votes periods, the biden administration thinks that's a good sign for him. what do you think? >> absolutely correct. what we saw throughout the republican primary, because it was obvious that donald trump was the presumptive nominee for quite some time and nonetheless, over and over again, roughly 40% of the electorate resoundingly said they are anti-trump and in exit polls, said that they will not be voting for donald trump in the general election and now we have this ultimate example of that because even after she dropped out, they are willing to go to the polls and still vote for her not because it is

any resounding support for nikki haley herself, but because it is an opportunity for them to express opposition to donald trump, and that fervor, not just within persuadable's, not just within the democratic base, but within republican primary voters -- these are traditional republican voters who are so anti-trump, that's a very good sign. >> i think that what matters most is not only that she got these votes but where she got most of them, which are those caller counties around philadelphia that are consistently purple in nature. they are always a battleground in this important state. he was basically breaking even with nikki haley who has been doa for six weeks and if we look back all the way to iowa,

and what do the iowa voters say about nikki haley, which is, if nikki haley was not going to be there nominee they were going to vote for joe biden, so i think trump has a massive issue. these orders are very likely to do one of two things. stay home, which trump can't afford, or vote for biden, which trump can't afford and i think as you noted a minute ago, he is sitting in a courtroom. he is not campaigning. he does not have the money to be running ads so i think if pennsylvania starts to stretch, what is trump going to do? and not only this, who is he going to appeal to to get haley's voters back? he said he doesn't want rhinos like me. he doesn't want haley's voters like who is going to vote for donald trump in numbers again back to the presidency? the only thing he has going for him is his name is donald trump. that's it. >> you know is going to vote for him? bill barr. it's very rare i read one of

donald trump social media posts but tonight i feel inclined for he wrote wow, form ag bill barr who let a lot of great people down by not investigating voter fraud in our country, has just endorsed me for president despite the fact that i called him weak, slow-moving, lethargic, gutless and lazy. trump is actually right here, okay? he has said and done all those terrible things to bill barr. bill barr knows the danger that donald trump is to this country yet he endorsed him. can you explain to me why? >> i really can't understand it. you know, is he trying to make a buck? is he so insecure that he needs continued relevance? what bill barr came face-to- face with at the conclusion of the trump presidency was trump's authoritarian fascist nature and his absolute disregard for our democratic norms, values, and system, and nonetheless, still turns around and supports him, but forget about bill barr. what matters is all the other bill barr's out there in the republican party right now who despite -- chris sununu is a

fantastic example, that might like to raise their hand during the primary and expressed a fervent opposition to donald trump, talked about how dangerous he is but now they see themselves slowly walking towards him. but, what matters the most though, not bill barr, not chris sununu. it is those 155,000 nikki haley voters in pennsylvania. it is that hard-core persuadable middle to really want nothing to do with the extremist maga base, and that is what is going to matter in the selection. >> i think bill barr and chris sununu and a lot of these people are hoping they stay out of the gulag if trump comes back. that's not how it works in these kinds of movements. bill barr will have terrible things happen. trump is coming

for all of us. these people do not forget and bar has done the one thing even after he is now engaging in the tim scott -like ritual humiliation, which is he betrayed trump and in these kinds of movements, the trail is the ultimate sin. he will never forgive bar. >> that's so embarrassing. bill barr should never say anything publicly. >> know but you know what? he gave a major speech where he basically said that he didn't think democracy was a great form of government, so really maybe we shouldn't be surprised. >> my goodness, this gentleman delivering your nightmare this evening. thank you both. when we returns, why read about history in a book when you can witness it firsthand? these teenagers who use their day off from school to see the wheels of justice turn, when the 11th hour continues. ues. bounce back fast from heartburn with new tums gummy bites, and love food back. ♪♪ are you throwing money away? money stresses me out. so, i went to experian.

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get ready to smile for tonight's last thing before we go. the new york criminal trial of donald trump is resuming tomorrow with the third day of testimony from former national enquirer publisher david pecker, and you've heard about what to expect from expert

lawyers and journalists on this very network but they are not the only ones focused on this case. yesterday, three new york city teenagers spent a day off from school. guess where? in that manhattan courtroom. chris johnson was able to speak with two of them about what they saw. >> this is a historic trial. i figured i would never have another chance to do something like this so i go to bed around six to try to get here on time. >> i really want to be a lawyer, so this was a really good experience for me. i took a lot of notes about what was going on, and different people who were doing what and it was very interesting for me. >> i love saying the testimony. i felt there were some parts of what he was saying that was credible but he was definitely more inclined to help the former president. >> yes, he sounded pro trump throughout his entire thing. >> reporter: what was your impression of the former president?

>> he definitely seemed much more contained than he normally is. definitely i can see him nodding off at times. >> yeah. at the beginning when everyone was first setting up, he was swearing a lot then he went through periods where he was unnaturally still, which i found very interesting. >> unnaturally still. those two are the only thing in this criminal trial that truly brings a smile to my face. some very good insight from future lawyers hope harrington and allman bearing down to take us off the air this evening and on that very important note, i wish you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. i will see you at the end of tomorrow. the end of tomorrow. tonight on all in. brand-new indictments in arizona. 18 people charged in a fraudulent scheme to steal the