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tv   Katy Tur Reports  MSNBC  March 28, 2024 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT

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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. it is a really crazy day here in new york. the skies are restricted. the streets are blocked off. there are larger than normal crowds. that's because there's not one, not two, not even three but four
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presidents in town. biden, obama, and clinton are all here for a fundraiser, they're just around the corner. a $250 a seat, gets a lot higher than that, get together at radio city music hall. some seats going for $100,000 if you want a photo op. trying to pile up enough cash and excitement to keep the other guy from getting back in the white house. that other guy is donald trump. he's here to attend the wake of a new york city officer, shot on the job in queens earlier this week. while donald trump didn't know the officer. it is expected he'll use the event to hammer joe biden on crime. while violent crime across the country is down, here in new york city, there are acute fears about safety, both on the subway, and now on the streets themselves. here's a part of a report by my colleague stephanie gosk on a rash of seemingly random attacks. >> reporter: the stories are harrowing. >> i was literally just walking
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and a man came up and punched me in the face. oh, my god, it hurt so bad. >> reporter: college student mikaela said she was leaving class in manhattan. >> i just got punched in the face walking home. >> he hit me right on my cheekbone. this doesn't hurt as bad as concussion does. >> reporter: she says she didn't see it coming. you have visible signs, the black eye, but mikaela, emotionally, how are you feeling? >> no, it's been really really hard. i think it hits me in waves. a lot of crying because it was really really scary. >> reporter: the nypd is looking into four similar cases like the one shared on social media. in one of them, police say a 40-year-old man has been arrested and charged with assault. >> i was punched in the head in new york city in times square. >> reporter: but the police have not linked the cases of the videos. in recent days, dozens of accounts of assaults have popped
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up online. the troubling stories surfacing at the same time there has been a rash of violent crimes on the city's busy subways. >> so that's what's happening in new york city. joining us from new york city, nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli, and massapequa, new york, on long island, rehema ellis. three presidents at radio city music hall today. talk to me about what they're doing. >> reporter: this is a significant moment for the biden campaign. start with the eye popping $25 million that the event is bringing in, the biggest according to the biden campaign, fundraising event in our politics ever. a lot of that coming not just in big increments. people can give up to $500,000, but i'm told a third of that, a little over $8 million coming in $25 increments for the virtual feature that they're going to have an interview of the three presidents, with julie chavez rodriguez. those are donors that the biden campaign can go back to over and over again, especially if they
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were first time donors for the rest of the campaign. for the biden campaign, this is about two other things. they want to bring the party together. this is obviously a candidate in president biden that a lot of democrats are concerned about, whether he's going to be able to get the job done. beat donald trump this november. we know what's at stake, and this is the kind of reinforcement that the party for whatever the reservations are is fully behind joe biden in a way that we don't necessarily see on the republican side. obama, former vice president joe biden, obviously the partnership they have so close. mike pence has not endorsed the person he served as vice president under donald trump. so that's another point of this. the other thing, katy, you know this so well. i covered the president when he was in north carolina. he spent the last two weeks, three weeks since the state of the union address out, every battleground state. the coverage of his events not necessarily breaking through in the way this event is generating a lot of attention for the biden campaign. they think this is the beginning
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of what they want to see as continued momentum to show that the president can get out his message with some chief spokespersons, including bill clinton, who 2012 was called the secretary of explaining stuff, and hope those two former presidents can help president biden get the message out. >> it's a big marquee outside of radio city music hall. i want to ask you about, we call it in the tv news world, the splint screen, donald trump where his presence will be highlighting crime. do we expect president obama or clinton to address anything of the split screen today. >> reporter: what's interesting, katy, about this event. tv cameras aren't inside. a fundraiser is typically that way, even one on this scale. we will see some photos. we will see some coverage obviously of what is said on the stage, but this is not the kind
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of moment where the president can address the horrible tragedy of the officer killed in the line of duty that we saw in new york. the white house saying president biden did call, the mayor of new york, to express his condolences to the new york police department, express his willingness to do whatever he can. this is why you have campaigns trying to rebut what the former president is using this moment for political purposes, especially calling attention to instances, such as january 6th. maybe donald trump wants to present himself on the side of law enforcement. we didn't see that on january 6th. that's how the biden team is putting this out. >> mike memoli, thank you very much. how did donald trump get invited to this wake? how did this all happen? >> reporter: according to the trump campaign spokesperson, he was invited by the family of the fallen officer to attend, and he did come here to pay his respects to that 31-year-old officer who leaves behind a wife and a very young son, just nine
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months old. the funeral home is behind me. you can see the line of people. they have been standing in the rain. it's pouring out here. the former president was inside for about 30 minutes. then he came outside. and it was a much more subdued donald trump than we have seen in other instances as he spoke about having spent time with the family, with the wife and mother of this fallen officer and getting to know them in this brief time. listen to what he said also about crime. >> stephanie was just incredible. their child, brand new beautiful baby, sitting there, innocent as can be. and doesn't know how his life has been changed. but the diller family, you will never be the same. you can never be the same, and we have to stop it. we have to stop it. we have to get back to law and order. we have to do a lot of things differently because this is not working. this is happening too often.
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>> reporter: we should mention to you that two people, two suspects in connection with the death of this officer have been arrested. one of them has been arraigned. both of them have been charged: and arraignment for the man who is suspected of firing the shot that killed officer diller is expected to be arraigned sometime later today. >> rehema ellis, mike memoli, thank you very much. joining us now is dave wasserman, what are you thinking? >> the former president is going to make crime and immigration the center of his campaign. we are seeing an uptick in the polling of president biden since the state of the union. it's not enough to where you would consider this race to be an even proposition between the two. even if you look at a tied polling average between biden and trump, probably equates to a narrow advantage for president
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trump. with the money that the president is raising with former presidents clinton and obama, can he leverage that financial advantage, which is similar to the financial advantage hillary clinton had in 2016 over trump to change the conversation in the next seven months, and i think the key questions on that front, can he make donald trump own the issue of abortion and his supreme court nominations. can he take the republican house head on as obstructionists when it comes to passing a comprehensive immigration bill, and can me paint a more positive portrait of the economy than voters currently believe. that's going to determine his fate. >> so what about crime? i mean, obviously former president trump is trying to use that to his advantage today. violent crime is down, and new york city is obviously a very blue place and will remain a blue place. it's going to take a lot for the city to turn red. the feeling that new yorkers have is one that's not so safe. the feeling when you have news
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coverage can start to seep into the rest of the country. >> that's right. and what former president trump does well is utilize these specific incident, whether it is jonathan diller or laken reilly to paint a broader picture of what's happening in the country. it's up to democrats and president biden to combat that by point to go statistics and pointing to a decline in violent crime and a rise in wages. what democrats desperately need is a forceful communicator on this front, and although president biden was combative and aggressive, and gave a campaign speech in the state of the union, these are isolated set pieces, and we're not really hearing the president drive this narrative as forcefully as presidents obama or clinton might have done in the 90s or in the last decade. >> what does it mean for
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president biden to have obama and clinton by his side? is this something that the campaign needs not just in these one-off fundraisers but to see in bigger, broader events as the months unfold? >> president biden at age 81 needs surrogates to help him make his case to voters, and keep in mind that, you know, president obama drove out millions of low propensity voters who were new to political participation in 2008 and 2012. these used to be base democratic voters. many of these young and nonwhite voters are persuadable voters, according to the polls. president biden needs to get his share of support among nonwhites and young voters, closer to where it was in 2020, particularly with these third-party candidacies that are polling as high as 20% combined between west and stein and rfk jr. in some of the surveys among
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young voters. also keep in mind that a lot of president clinton's voters from the 90s are the types of rural or at least small town secular blue collar voters who have defected to trump in the years since. even though he's 77, could bill clinton reemerge to try and help close the deal for a second term for joe biden particularly with some of those working class white voters that biden needs to hold on to. we'll see. >> dave wasserman, thank you very much. joining us now republican strategist and commune communication strategist for the rnc, doug hie. let me talk about abortion. what we saw in alabama was a special election for a state house seat where a woman ran against a republican on the issue of ivf. a democrat ran against a republican, and she won by something of a landslide, the same seat she lost to, the same person a couple of years ago. does that special election, can
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you project it out or, again, is this just a one-off? >> this should be cause for concern for republicans. one thing we do in every special election, the republicans do, the democrats do, if there's a special election, a good result, you over play, the short answer is we don't know at this point. republicans should be concerned and should learn from this, but it doesn't tell us anything yet about what's going to happen in november. >> what are you watching? >> what i'm watching for is some of what we're going to see today. how does the issue of crime and issues surrounding that play out. i was looking at polling today, that was very issue specific, and what i saw in it was on so many issues, and those issues that voters are saying are number one, two, and three for them that donald trump is massively ahead of joe biden. and what are those, the economy, crime, that's today's issue, obviously, and the border, which touches on that as well as david
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referenced. i think democrats are going to have a good day today raising money, but beyond that, yeah, barack obama can be helpful, but on the margins, and given everything that our conversation about donald trump is, just, you know, this week and over the past few weeks and the future weeks, i doubt we'll see bill clinton as somebody out there rebutting donald trump and his message a whole lot on the campaign trail. >> this is a big money gap. if he's going to raise $25 million, we have already seen in the financial disclosures, the biden team, donald trump's money is going to his legal fees, a lot of the campaign fundraising done by the super pacs is going straight to paying off his legal bills. does the money matter? >> it matters. what we don't know is how much it matters. as david said earlier, hillary clinton had a big advantage. i have worked in races where we had less money in one, and more money in lost. you want to be in the advantageous situation.
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certainly, i think the republicans know that they have trouble right now. the rnc getting that money into key critical states, other than north carolina where the new chairman and cochair are from. if you're from michigan, pete hokstra saying i don't have what i need. that's a problem for republicans moving forward. we talked about donald trump and what questions are being asked in the interview process at the rnc. this is where donald trump is skillful, he's a metaphor, the story about the funding and lack of funding getting to states is a much more important story when it comes to what's going to happen in campaign 2024. >> what about what might happen down ballot. there's an assumption democrats are in for a tough time in the senate. the house maybe not so much. candidate quality was an issue for mitch mcconnell, are you
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seeing that candidate quality might be an issue for republicans once again. >> i'm from north carolina, so yes is the short answer. i look at mark robinson who could win but has a real problem up ballot for donald trump. >> tell me why. >> because of the extreme comments he has made over the years. recently we learned he made some really awful comments about beyonce, probably strategically timed for democrats to release that with her album coming out, and michelle morrow, the education candidate who said extreme things. donald trump says extreme things, but they're more of a garden variety, compared to mark robinson and michelle morrow. there's concern that those could hurt donald trump up ballot, not just down ballot. democrats have a real senate problem, and that's the real crap shoot that the senate is. every two years, it's depending on what senators are up for reelection. it's not like the house where
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they all are every two years. >> doug hie, really good to have you. thank you very much. >> thank you. and coming up, getting on a plane time soon? what dozens of boeing employees and aviation experts are now saying about the safety of the boeing fleet. ambassador sully sullenberger is joining me now. and what efforts are making the cleaning up of the francis scott key bridge more complicated. and it's going to be a long time for sam bankman-fried, what the judge said today when he sentenced the crypto mogul. we're back in 90 seconds. we're back in 90 seconds
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like nasal congestion. live claritin clear® if you open the paper this morning, read this headline right here, and then checked to make sure your next flight was on an air bus, you probably aren't the only one. quote, shortcuts everywhere. how boeing favored speed over quality. "the new york times" interviewed dozens of current and former boeing employees who say the work force has quote dropped, the inspection process has quote weakened and production speed is being prioritized over quality control. joining us now former u.s. ambassador to the international civil aviation organization, also the captain of flight 1549 known as miracle on the hudson, sully sullenberger. ambassador, thank you very much for being with us. what do you say to people who have to get on a boeing jet in the future? >> i got on one this morning.
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but i am concerned. you know, boeing for many decades, has been a preeminent american company of engineering excellence. they have lost their way. and they need to regain it. and it's not going to happen quickly. it's going to take time. i lay much of the blame at the feet of the board and their latest ceos. they need to have people there who are engineers and who understand the need for engineering excellence. you know, as ultra safe as we have made commercial aviation, we can't forget what an unforgiving endeavor aviation is, and how unforgiving it is of any discrepancy, any nonconformances, so much has to go right all the time. it's the human factor that always saves the day. but we need to give them planes that we can trust in every situation, and meet every requirement in that airplane, and there are thousands and
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thousands of parts that need to be made a certain way and documented that we can prove that, and with this case, that didn't happen. >> i think that when you get into the skies, the presumption you have is that the people who have built the plane, that are putting it up there, checking it, are making every effort to make sure everything is as safe as possible, given just how much can go wrong. when you read through the "new york times" today, did you sit there and wonder, what in the world is happening. was it surprising to you to see these allegations of cutting corners, quality control lapses, the work staff not being expert enough in the manufacturing of these parts? did that surprise you? >> no, it didn't. and it happens in every industry, not just in this one. you know, i've been a public speaker now for 15 years, and what i tell every audience, and i have the whole time is what a
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compelling business case there is for quality and safety. whatever domain you're in, it's always ultimately better and cheaper to get it right up front than to get it wrong and have to repair the damage after the fact. and when lives are lost, there's no way to repair that damage. >> so concerns have been raised at boeing over the years, according to people who work at boeing. the reporting has been pretty well documented on this. there was also a whistle blower who apparently, allegedly took his life yesterday. there's an investigation ongoing. his parents were interviewed by cbs news. i want to play a little bit about what they said about their son. >> it's all he wanted, just the safety of the public. >> he thought that was at stake. >> he knew that was at stake, and that's what he was concentrating on. >> i'm sorry, that's his brother. so he said, the family said he would raise these issues in internal meetings and that he
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would come out of the meetings feeling ostracized that he wasn't being listened to. how important is it for a company like this, any company, really, but a company responsible for the lives of so many people to hear from the individuals within their company who are raising concerns? >> it's critically important, and what has to happen is we have to have leadership on the board and in the c suite who understand safety. and i don't think safety is taught in our schools. it should be. what they have to do as leaders is they're responsible for creating the culture at that organization. and culture is everything. and we have to have an effective safety culture where people have their priorities straight. it is not financial consideration that should be number one. it's keeping us and our customers safe.
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that should be job number one, and job number two and three and four and ten, and right now that's not happening in all of our big companies, and that's got to change. we have to put people on the board who have engineering backgrounds. we have to put people in c suites who understand what's important. >> it was an engineering company before it became a company that was trying to make more money. they were always trying to make money, but the guiding light was engineering up until the early 2000s, according to the reporting that's been done on it. >> they did stock buybacks, instead of investing in people and in processes and in safety. >> let me ask you this, just one last time, why do you feel safe getting on a boeing jet right now? >> because so much does go right. i mean, you know, 28,000 times a day, 10.2 million times a year, and it's because rise to the occasion and make sure that even if there is something going wrong, that we all get to our destination safely because they're well trained, and they
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have a dedication, a duty of care that technology alone cannot feel. >> ambassador sully sullenberger, thank you very much for joining us. i think it's good to people to hear that you do still feel safe but you are somebody that's going to go out there and anxiety knowledge that boeing has lost their way and they do need to make changes. thank you again for your time. >> my pleasure. still ahead, what officials say they have found on board the dali container ship that is complicating the effort to get it out of the water. plus, when will the trial be? what judge scott mcafee is considering today ahead of a date for the georgia election fraud case. theeo grgia electio fraud case it's what's going on inside of me. it's my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis. it wasn't always this calm uc went everywhere i did. wondering when it would pop up next was stressful doing a number on my insides. but then i found out about velsipity a new once-daily pill, not a steroid or biologic, for adults with moderate to severe uc.
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we need every single baltimoreian, and every single marylander, to join us in the work to rebuild the bridge and rebuild the city. >> maryland governor wes moore trying to rally the city of baltimore today. late last night dive teams recovered the bodies of alejandro fuentes of baltimore, and castillo cabrera, found 25 feet below the water's surface on wednesday. four others are still missing. officials say the conditions in the water right now are too dangerous to keep on searching. as for the container ship dali, the investigators have now boarded that vessel and found extensive damage. you can see it right there.
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further complicating the already herculean task of getting the broken bridge off the boat and out of the water. joining us now from baltimore, nbc news correspondent ryan nobles. so ryan, i know governor wes moore was at the opening for the orioles game that's, you know, the first day of the season for baseball and the orioles are obviously honoring those who were lost in the bridge. but talk to me about the latest on the salvage and recovery efforts. >> reporter: it's a monumental task, katy, there's no doubt about that. and it's going to take a long time before there's a sense of normalcy in baltimore. they have to go through what is really a pain staking process to remove the debris and the remnants of the bridge out of the water in part because there's an investigation underway, and the ntsb needs to take care of each part of that bridge so that when they get the stuff out of the water, they can actually recreate some of the bridge and try and determine
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what went wrong and why the bridge collapsed as quickly as it does. there's the removal process of the container ship itself. we learned today that there is hazardous materials on board the ship. so that will mean it's a delicate process to get the ship out of the water so it doesn't create more environmental problems. but one of the things that you heard today from the governor was a sincere effort to really begin the process of getting that harbor back open. there are thousands and thousands of marylanders whose employment is directly connected to the harbor, and they want to get it back open so that there is as little loss of jobs for the people of this community as possible. you know, katy, it's been a rough couple of days for the people of the community, but you do get a sense that they have optimism for what's ahead, even though it's going to be a long and lengthy recovery process. >> let me play a little bit more from governor moore about the efforts both local and state and federal government are all making to try to get this thing
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done. >> government is working hand in hand with industry to investigate the area, to clear the wreck, and to move the ship. leaders from across local and state and federal levels are gathering funds to rebuild this bridge. this work is not going to take hours. this work is not going to take days. this work is not going to take weeks. we have a very long road ahead of us. >> it could potentially take years. ryan, your day job is covering congress. what's the word from congress on allocating these funds? >> reporter: so already the governor today has asked the federal government for $60 million. and he's very clear that that's just the initial request. it's basically just to get the process going. it's not a long-term funding solution to this problem. it's going to be in the billions of dollars, katy. i don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone. and right now, congress is not in session.
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donald trump is trying to get georgia's election interference case dropped again, this time arguing his actions were protected by free speech. joining me now from fulton county, georgia, nbc news correspondent, blayne alexander. also with me, nbc news legal correspondent, lisa rubin. there is a hearing today, blayne, walk us through what happened. >> reporter: it was about an hour and a half long hearing today, katy, and you nailed it. basically the attorney for donald trump steve sadow was making the argument that the allegations in this indictment fell under the category of political speech and were protected by the first amendment. the state pushed back on that and basically said that everything that was being alleged is part of an underlying act that makes up the alleged criminal conspiracy for which the former president is being charged as well. here's a little bit of what we
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heard in the courtroom. first hear from steve sadow, the attorney for trump, followed by the argument from the state. >> clearly being president of the united states at the time dealing with elections and campaigning, calling into question whether what had occurred at least in the election of 2020 for president, that's the height of political speech. >> he's free to make statements and to file lawsuits and to make other legitimate protests. what he is not allowed to do is employ his speech and his expression and his statements as part of a criminal conspiracy to violate georgia's rico statute, to impersonate public officers, to file false documents and make false statements to the government. >> reporter: so, katy, we'll know in the days or so to come how the judge is going to rule on that. let me point to the significance overall of today's hearing.
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what we saw today is not something we haven't seen before, and something we will certainly see again before this case goes to trial, which is defense attorneys doing what they do in trying to get the case dismissed. it also shows that the case is now back on track here in georgia. this is the first hearing for more than two and a half months that have focused on the actual facts of the case, focused on moving the case forward, what we have been covering largely, and what has sucked up the oxygen in the case, the motion to remove fani willis from the case. the fact that we had this hearing today shows it's back on track. the other thing that's important to point out is the decision to keep fani willis on the case is working its way through appeals but what we have now are parallel tracks. it's not going to stop the process of the case moving forward. >> should we expect there to be a trial date set in this case? >> we should expect there to be a trial date set in the case. that wasn't on the agenda for today, and as blayne and others
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know well, this is a judge who usually sets an agenda for each hearing. he tells us which motions are going to be argued or what else administrative house keeping, so to speak he has on his mind. that wasn't at all addressed today, katy. >> let me ask you about judge aileen cannon and what's happening in south florida. donald trump's lawyers arguing their schedule is packed in terms of that trial date, which has not been officially scheduled. >> they issued a notice or filed a notice saying they believe this trial is going to begin on april 15th here in new york. that's the hush money case brought by manhattan district attorney alvin bragg, but they say in this filing that a precise end date of the trial can't be known. that's part of their effort to thwart any effort by judge cannon who hasn't shown one so far, to reset the date originally scheduled for may 20th. let me ask you this, this is the election denier, scott eastman, what happened with, i'm
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sorry, jeffrey clark, not scott eastman. what happened to him? >> they are subject to different disbarment proceedings in different states. john eastman in california, jeffrey clark in the district of columbia. john eastman yesterday was the subject of a 128-page decision through which a judge said he should no longer be a member of the california state bar. she also recommended that he be fined. he has mechanisms to appeal. but for now, he will be on the inactive role of california state. he can not practice law. jeff clark, by contrast, is going through something akin to what john eastman went through. in john eastman's case, a 34-day trial. jeff clark is in the middle of his and we've seen testimony from a number of people, including several department of justice officials who were in the room with jeff clark when he tried to persuade donald trump
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that he should continue to go down the path of suggesting to states that they appoint their own electors and essentially circumvent the will of the voters. >> thank you very much for keeping track because it is hard to keep track of all the election deniers and all the people in trouble in donald trump's orbit who were allegedly trying to overturn the election back in those heady days in 2020. lisa rubin, thank you very much. and a judge has found that a georgia republican who claimed the 2020 election was stolen himself voted illegally not once, but nine times. nine times. "the washington post" reports brian pritchard, the first vice chairman of the georgia state republican party was sentenced in pennsylvania in 1996 to three years probation for forging a check. his probation was revoked three times, and he was resentenced to a new seven-year probationary term in 2004. after he moved to georgia where
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sam bankman-fried is going to prison for 25 years, which means he could be almost 60 by the time he's a free man ago. he was sentenced for his role in defrauding crypto investors on his exchange, ftx. joining us now is chief financial analyst at dynasty financial partners. ron insana. is the sentence commiserate with what he did? >> compared to bernie madoff who got 150 years, and elizabeth holmes got eleven years, yes. listen, he engaged in fraud, as you stated, misappropriated funds. committed -- laundered money. all these things you see on the screen, he actually did. he was convicted of all that. 25 years i think is a fair sentence. the money's been recovered, thankfully. but that doesn't mean he didn't commit the crime.
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buy me some peanuts and cracker jacks because it is opening day for baseball here, there, and almost everywhere. all but four teams are playing on this the real start to spring. that's a live look at the orioles now. joining us from arlington, texas, is nbc news correspondents morgan chesky. what have you got in that cup? i hope it's something fun. >> reporter: i'm just trying to stay hydrated in these brutal conditions. little known fact, if you cover enough hurricanes you do get to cover an opening day here. a beautiful day here in dallas.
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they're keeping the roof on, though, because they want that world championship banner to fall ever so perfectly here in a few hours when the season opener kicks off against the chicago cubs. those four games that you mentioned not happening today, that's the braves, brewers, phillies, and the mets, postponed due to rain. those fans have to wait until march 29th. really a lot of excitement to have baseball back. a short off season for the defending champ rangers here. had a chance to speak to their manager, bruce bochy, who tells me he wants his guys to soak up every second before getting right back into baseball because they want a repeat here. i mean, everyone does. at least here in arlington. >> you didn't answer whether -- what was in that cup. i will allow you to check company policy. you're allowed to have one glass of wine at lunch. i presume that applies to whatever might be in that cup. >> reporter: just one. >> i like the -- the dropping of the banner. congratulations. we all see you. how do you feel about the rest of the season, morgan?
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you going to go with everybody and pick the dodgers? >> reporter: oh, right, because i have a sneaking suspicion you are a dodger fan. obviously they have the $700 million man with shohei ohtani. now kind of embraided in this gambling -- embroiled in this gambling scam of his interpreter paying off the gambling debt. that is under federal investigation. i was lucky enough to sit down with mookie betts a month ago, i will say that. and i know that really they're doing their best to focus on baseball, scandal or not, and my favorite thing i got from mookie is that in order to relax during the baseball season he will go bowling, believe it or not. even though all the pressure are on the dodgers, if they don't win a world series people are going to be disappointed because of the effort they've put to
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compile that team. mookie betts is trying to stay as zen as possible amid all the eyeballs on that very expensive team there. >> money can buy you a lot. it doesn't necessarily buy you a championship as the mets well know. by the way, mets not playing today. i do love the mets. i love the mets. i was although the orioles. love the dodgers. texas -- i'll let you have texas. morgan chesky. >> reporter: i just love baseball. >> i love baseball, too. thank you so much. hope you teach your kid to love baseball also. congratulations on being a dad. very late, belated congratulations. that's going to do it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. a clarion call to, quote, walk back from the edge of the abyss. that's from

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