understand that. no matter how hard you want to make it for these migrants to the u.s., it is not deterred by walls, policy debates. it's not. people will continue to migrate north and so what do you do? >> the desperation is so acute and it is driving people to do things that are debasing their own, that force them to debase their own humanity. i'm so grateful for everything you do to shine a light on this. really important stuff. thanks for makeing the time tonight. >> thanks so much. >> that is our show this evening. now it is time for the last word with ali velshi who is in for lawrence. good evening. >> good evening alex. thanks for continuing to stay on the story of the

difficulties that migrants face. when paola is on tv, she said migrants used to pay for cash, now they pay with their bodies. that will stick with me for a while. >> that is a part of this debate that is never articulated. what is happening to human beings is devastating. >> and you are telling those stories and thank you for that. you have a good night. we'll see you tomorrow. >> you, too. today, literally hours after new york criminal trial judge juan imposed a gag order on donald trump, donald trump spent the day attacking the judge and his daughter on social media. trump's relentless hate-filled attacks which we will not show on this program accuse the judge's daughter of making anti- trump posts on an account that a spokesperson for the office of court administration says was hacked. and no longer belongs to her. donald trump leveled the same attacks against the wife of the

judge overseeing trump's civil fraud trial. again, the court administration said the account was hacked. the gag order bans these attacks. it doesn't specifically restrict donald trump from attacking the judge or his family. but it shows donald trump's utter contempt for the judicial system as he faces his first criminal trial starting in less than three weeks. on april 15th. the judge has nothing to do with the criminal fraud case against donald trump but donald trump knows exactly what he is doing. here is how the judge sees donald trump's threatening inflammatory comments against everyone associated with the judicial system as he wrote in the gag order. not only fear on the part of the individual targeted but the assignment of increased security resources to investigate threats and protect

the individuals and family members there of. given the eve of the trial is upon us it is without question that the immanency of the risk of harm is now paramount. this is how donald trump attacks the judicial system trying to hold him accountable. he runs to the cameras outside the courtroom as he did on monday, ranting about witch hunts and victim hood. using social media to stoke anger against the innocent relatives of people involved in the judicial system. and nbc news analysis of trump's social media platform found his unprecedented attacks are tied to developments in his court cases and they at times have outnumbered his posts about his reelection bid. donald trump intends to send his criminal trial to undermine democracy by igniting threats around the judicial system just like he sparked threats against those administering our elections. the judge like other judges and

prosecutors trying to hold trump accountable have been the targets of death threats just as election workers and state and local officials have incurred the wrath of trump and his followers. the department of justice announced it is investigating dozens of threats made to election workers and charged 20 individuals so far. several had been sentenced to 18 months in prison including two convicted for targeting katie hobbs, arizona's former secretary of state. and now, governor. still. those threats have had a chilling effect leading to the workers to leave the profession. donald trump has never launched these attacks against judge aileen cannon and her family. because judge cannon has been doing everything she can do to help donald trump delay his criminal trial in florida on his illegal retention and obstruction of classified documents. this comes as donald trump is

running out of time again to post bond in his new york civil fraud judgment. he has until april 4th to post his bond with an appeals court saying it would only delay enforcement of the full amount if he put up that lower figure within this window and it is not immediately clear how he will come up with the money, end quote. reports the washington post. the new york times has new reporting today dealing with how donald trump has paid some of his legal bills, donald trump has spent over $100 million on his legal bills from his campaign according to the new york times. the remarkable sum means that donald trump has averaged more than $90,000 a day in legal related costs for more than three years. none of it paid for with his own money. the former president has relied

almost entirely on donations made in an attempt to fight the results of the 2020 election. end quote. donald trump is using money he has raised by lying about the 2020 election, lies that threatened election workers and caused many to quit their jobs. to pay for his legal troubles. joining us now is joins manns from the university of alabama school of law. cohost of the podcast hash tag sisters in law and an nbc news legal analyst. joyce, there is something about this that is personal for you. this business of threatening judges and their families. this matters more to you than just casual discussions about the law. >> it is not just a theoretical risk because my father-in-law was a federal judge on the 11th circuit court of appeals

who was murdered by a dissatisfied litigant who seriously injured my mother-in- law. and what i think as i look at donald trump and his conduct, this isn't someone in the legal system. this isn't an individual who holds government office. this is the former president of the united states. the former commander of chief. who at this point in time knowing when he speaks, some of his followers listen and act and he nonetheless proceeds to impose this sort of risk really just putting a bulls eye on the back of a judge and of that judge's daughter. it is tragic. it is unacceptable. i think sometimes we don't stop and reflect on how wrong it is. how dangerous it is. in this instance, targeting the

child of a public servant is just beyond the bounds. >> there is some specificity that makes it interesting. we are trying to learn more. but the court says that judge marshawn's daughter's accounts were hacked. something similar happened to judge goron's wife in the civil fraud trial. >> that's right. donald trump seems to make these careless irresponsible allegations trying to imply that family members of judges and family members of prosecutors are against him. something you will not see him do here is he will not walk it back. so he puts the allegation out there whipping his supporters into a frenzy of support for him. but he never corrects it when he turns out he was wrong. >> donald trump was going after

judge engoro's clerk. they are hesitant to make. >> in this order, judge marshawn mentions what he is is obligated to do usual the law is to make a balancing calculation. he thinks about the free speech in the first amendment aspects of donald trump's speech. and he balances that against risk to individuals and very importantly, the risk to the smooth administration of justice. he is obligated to protect the integrity of the spreedings in his courtroom so he looks at all of donald trump's statements and in his order the judge says donald trump doesn't deny making any of these statements. he doesn't deny their impact on

people. people are frightened when this sort of conduct is directed at them. what donald trump says is i have a right to speak to my followers. i have a right to speak to voters and be heard. the judge says you know, that's not the case. under the law, we can engage in these modest restrictions but they don't extend to the judge or the elected prosecutor in this case. so those people are left out hanging. >> thanks for being with us this evening. joyce vance. joining us now is suzanne craig. you have been following this money trail with donald trump. so many money things happening with donald trump. there is a reduced bond he does actually have to produce. and i would love to know your thoughts on where you think he is there.

donald trump is many billions of dollars wealthier. his stock has started trading. that is an interesting story of how that came to be. and he is selling bibles for $59.99. start wherever you would like suzanne. >> i think i will leave the bibles for a little bit. start with the bond. he has to pay a reduced bond $175 million. that is down from $450 million in change. that happened earlier in the week. seems like weeks ago. it was just on monday that hit when the appellate court came down and said you could post a smaller bond. it doesn't mean eventually if he is not successful he wouldn't have to pay the whole thing. they didn't give a reason for the reduction. but they said for you you can post that and move forward with the appeal. i don't know where he is with the payment. i thought he would have moved more quickly.

but he still has a few days to post it and it feels like he will come up with the cash somewhere. we don't know. but it feels like what the appellate court did took some oxygen. >> this is an interesting story. the truth social merged with a shell company. went public. got a lot of followers. people who are not typical investors who bought this thing. stock was way, way up. then it was just up a lot. tell me about whether this has any relationship to his financial troubles and whether he can leverage that money at all. >> so we don't know where he is going to get the money from. he said that he is going to put up cash. truth social, you know, it went

public through this company. and began trading on the nasdaq this week. but we don't know. looks like right now, he can't use his value of his shares to meet the bond. his shares are worth billions but they can't lock up until october. there is talk he could get a waver. so we don't know. it looks like the rules right now are he has to wait six months to access those shares. and who knows what they will be worth in six months. i don't know who would lend them money. you don't know what it will be worth down the road. >> in the old days you and i used to know what a stock was

worth. in this case l is no relationship between the price of this stock and what the underlying asset to truth social earns. >> i think it is really important to remember the revenue of this company is minuscule. you know. it is not making money. it feels like the game stock right now. there's a lot of people, supporters of donald trump in there. it is a very high risk stock. it could be anywhere from worth a lot more in six months to almost zero in six months. we just don't know. right now, it doesn't look like he could immediately access it. but they may vote and allow them to do it. we don't know how much cash he has on hand. but there's a sense he might have enough to meet this. but we just really don't know. >> suzanne, thanks for your great reporting on this.

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biden white house to uncancel a meeting between israeli adviser to discuss military operation in rafah. >> so look, i would say as we are working to set a date, the prime minister's office agreed to reschedule this meeting. you saw that the defense, the otherwise reese defense minister was here two days. extended a day to meet with jake sullivan. lloyd austin. bill burns. so that is the conversation that we are having. we are working to convene that. that is what we know from our side. >> that's a major reversal from netanyahu who canceled two days ago in protest after the united states did not block a u.n. security council resolution calling for an immediate cease fire in gaza from passing. netanyahu said me decision was

a message to hamas. end quote. he can read today's american headlines himself. a new poll showing the majority of americans now disapproval of israel's military action in gaza. 55% approval for netanyahu's war has fallen 14% since november. and this new piece in the atlantic by netanyahu biographer says benjamin netanyahu is israel's worst prime minister ever. he writes quote since his election in 2022, he is no longer the sent of power but a vacuum. a black hole that has engulfed all of israel's political energy. most israelis already realize that netanyahu is the worst of the 14 prime ministers their country has had in 76 years of independence but in the future, jews might remember him as the leader who inflicted the most harm on his people since the

squabbling kings brought civil war and roman occupation to judea nearly 21 centuries ago. netanyahu's obsession with his own destiny as israel's protector has caused his country grievous damage. in fairness, aaron, you have been saying since day one of this horrible tragic war that there are parties on both sides of this that are not the right parties to bring a solution. and you were clear hamas is one of them. and netanyahu is the other. he is intractable. >> i think that's right. the truth is he want to be prime minister more than any

other israeli politician relatively competitive for the job. he wants it more. he is desperate to maintain himself in power and he will do just about anything to do so. it is an extraordinary indictment. but the reality is, israel now has now probably the worst leader it could possibly have. a man on trial for bribery, fraud, and breach of trust. three years running in jerusalem district court. he has conflated his own political and legal tremendous vails. that's not the kind of leader you want presiding over the worst terror attack in israel's history. and the bloodiest day for jews since the end of the nazi holocaust. you are right.

irreplaceable. there is just no way to end his tenure. >> they have often softened their hard lines toward the end of their career in the hopes of creating some legacy. that hasn't worked in most cases. netanyahu has moved further to the right. more hawkish. is that something about him or is that the politics right now which you describe. otherwise, he might face justice. >> it is political and existential survival. there is precedent in having an israeli minister serve time. he wasn't indicted as prime minister. but i think for benjamin netanyahu, the risk, the one

joe biden referred half jokingly as my good friend bibi has become a risk ready prime minister whose maintenance and power is critical probably to his freedom. it is only a matter of time. when this war winds down. and the accountability of what is transpired the last two years kicks in. i ventured to say networks year at this time, you and i are talking benjamin netanyahu will probably not be prime minister. >> march 14th you wrote an opinion piece called words over deeds. why biden isn't pressuring israel. and u yo know, it was a good long piece and i read it thinking enter in here, there will be some little ray of hope and something you will tell me. some twist that will occur that will change things. and there wasn't. i read right to the last word. it is honest as you are. you are not seeing how this

changes. how biden looks at his domestic political situation. global opinion. and does something differently. though he is no fan of benjamin netanyahu's. >> it is very well stated. and absolutely true. the president faces a real problem. does he want to make a point or a difference? if he wants to make a difference and actually change the pictures in gaza, get a deescalation. surge humanitarian assistance. get a temporary cease fire that could last for as much or long as six weeks, he has no choice but to continue negotiating or have israel and hamas negotiating, my foreigner my colleague. the problem is that the party that seems to be in a hurry to get some a deal is not hamas and it is not the government of

israel. it is the biden administration. and that's the real problem. we are now in the sixth month of the war. almost in the sixth month of the war. there is still no way out. a strategic cul-de-sac. that's the real problem here. the only pathway out, breaks the battlefield dynamic. frees some hostages and maybe just maybe opens things up for a deescalation and continued ceasing of hostilities. >> the issue is we also don't have direct relations and talks iran. very influential with hamas. the egyptians are talking to hamas. will hamas help out and do the

right thing? >> buried in some 20 or 30 meters below ground below rafah. it is a wonder how they are communicating. and no wonder they are slow and tedious. hamas still believes they could trade tunnels and hostages for time. they don't seem to be any hurry. the deal would involve an amess asymmetrical exchange. the longer this war goes on, the better for benjamin netanyahu. maybe the israelis will end up somehow rescuing the hostages and somehow, they will be able to redeem his political career. it is sad. >> this is why i recommend people read you.

you have not for a moment in the last six months postulated something hopeful. this is unfolding sadly. all right, coming up, democrats are planning to make abortion access and reproductive rights a huge campaign issue in november but the strategy has already worked for one candidate. and in alabama of all places. you might remember, the democrat marilyn land who campaigned on this exact issue flipped a seat in alabama state house. she joins us next. she joins us next.

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democrats won big on abortion rights again. this time, in deep red alabama. >> i think this is a giant step forward for alabama. i think it is a victory tonight. for women. for families. for alabama in general. it feels like it is a start of a change here. >> last night, we broke the news that the democrat marilyn lands flipped a seat in the alabama state house. she won the special election by 25 points. in a district that donald trump won by one percentage point in 2020. the biden harris campaign has called her win a major warning sign for trump saying that alabama voters quote know exactly who to blame for restricting their ability to

decide how and when to build their families and they are ready to fight back. it is a seat marilyn lost two years ago. he pleaded guilty to voter fraud in august. marilyn ran on women's reproductive rights in alabama where the supreme court ruled that frozen embryos are people and there is a near total abortion ban. >> i was pregnant with a baby who had a fatal condition and would not survive. and because of alabama's abortion ban, we had to drive ten hours to get the medical care i needed. >> i once faced a nearly identical situation but was able to get the care i needed close to home. it is shameful today women have fewer freedoms than i did two decades ago. we need to repeal alabama's abortion ban and protect people's freedoms. if you elect me, that is what i

plan to do. >> joining us now is marilyn lands of alabama. congratulations, thank you for being with us. tell us how you did this. how did you turn this district around? >> well, it was a pretty amazing victory. and i did not expect it to be the landslide it was. but, we had so many conversations with people at the doors and the people reached out to me. and, it was such a personal thing that everyone was sharing stories and stories they haddened told. so i have heard of struggles

with misagers. atopic pregnancies. just all the heartbreak these situations bring to families and it has felt very different from my 2022 campaign. totally different energy. women hugged me at the doors. this message has just resonated. >> when roe fell, alabama was the first state i went to, to talk to people because it became one of the most restrictive states. i said don't give up on alabama. don't assume you can tell people in alabama what other states they can go to. but don't let the fight in alabama go out. this is the front line of the fight not just for abortion and e are productive rights but for contraception. who knew we were fighting about ivf until recently? pay attention to alabama.

things can change there. >> and i was stunned by the ivf ruling. and i felt like alabama has become ground zero for attacks on women's freedoms and reproductive health care and yesterday's victory just showed that the people want something different. things are changing. the people have spoken. and i think things are going to change pretty rapidly here. i'm excited. >> it has animated people. it has caused people who in many cases have voted republican or think of themselves as conservatives in the past to say there is, doug jones was on with joy earlier today and he said it feels like a line has been crossed and they won't put up with it. >> many people have said we have just gone too farment and from my personal story, the fact that we stepped two decades backwards, this is not

progress. and we want progress. we want to move forward. this is where we are at. >> on march 6th, it was reported march 6th that representative anthony daniels from huntsville introduced the right to contraception act. i remember when i was down in alabama, people telling me they are coming for contraception, too. it is actually hard for women who are not covered or don't have insurance to get a doctor's appointment if they don't already have one. so even getting contraception is something that has become more difficult in alabama than it was before the fall of roe. >> exactly. and i'm very fearful: when the dobbs decision was handed down and alabama pulled the trigger act. all other states followed. and my biggest fear is that whatever we do next is going to spread so we have to stop it here and i think the victory last night really showed that is what the people want.

we are ready to stand up for women's health, reproductive freedom. it is not something that the legislature should be involved in. it is a personal decision. >> so that sounds like a very strong argument in a conservative state. what does the rest of the argument look like when you know, you saw joe biden and vice president harris talking about this you as an example. about your campaign. how does it go in red states? tell me what that argument is to people to say you have to come out and vote because your rights are being taken away. >> i have found that at least in this district, which does tend to be maybe a little bit different than the rest of alabama, that many people who consider themselves traditional republicans are standing with this issue. when the ivf ruling came down,

there has just been this pushback that we have gone too far. and, we need to move forward. and that is what this victory signifies. >> alabama state representative marilynlands, thank you for joining us this evening. >> thanks for having me, thank you so much. welcoming up, it is not just alabama democrats are looking to make reproductive rights a decisive campaign issue. it will be all eyes in florida for same reason and we will explain why. that's next. will explain why. that's next. hmm, what about th? (♪♪) looks right. [thud] [rushing liquid] nooo... nooooo... nooooooo... quick, the quicker picker upper! only bounty absorbs spills like a sponge. and bounty is 2x more absorbent so you can use less and get the job done with one. this works. [thud] kind of. bounty, the quicker picker upper. and get four rolls in one with the bounty mega roll. our longest lastng roll.

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tomorrow could be a very consequential day for reproductive rights in florida. the court must decide by april 1st whether to include an amendment expanding abortion access on november's ballot. the ballot measure if passed would protect abortion access until viability which is usually considered to be 24 weeks. if passed, it would roll back florida's current 15-week abortion ban and block the six week ban that florida's legislature passed from going into effect. in a november poll, 62% of florida voters say they would support this measure if it appears on the ballot. at the state level, democrats have already proven that focusing on abortion rights

wins elections. in january, florida democrats flipped the seat from republican to democrat largely on the issue of reproductive freedoms. tom keene won as a democrat in a district where a republican won by 11 points in the last election. and our next guest, house democratic leader driscol was instrumental in helping democrats take that seat back. in an election where democrats were out-spent 2-1, leader driscol encouraged the strategy of persuading unaffiliated voters called no party affiliation voters or npas for short. to vote for him because of his position on reproductive rights. congressman maxwell frost told us about that special election victory in january. >> oftentimes in these campaigns, there is a tendency to talk about everything which

is important. tom has positions on every issue. he focuses on the things people were thinking about. that is why he won 65 to 70%. and that is what we will talk this message and this model tom had. take it statewide. >> joining us now is the florida democratic house leader. thank you for being with us. how many mpas , no party afilllation people are we talking about in florida in terms of a percentage? how big a deal is this? >> oh, wow, it is quite a large number. i mean, mpas are the largest growing political segment we have in the state. so it is simply not possible to win an election without them. but the good news is many of them want to vote with us.

they want cants who will protect their freedom. >> beth wrote a blog post about the success the democrats had in flipping that seat. republicanshave generously handed us pocketbook and social issue that's combine into their own kryptonite. abortion, and property insurance. i can scarcely remember a more effective one two punch for npas , no party affiliation, and gop voters. talk to me about the evolution in florida a place where democrats say we have a better solution to everything. >> yeah, well for too many years, florida has become an incubator for extremism. we have book bans.

when it comes to the personal medical decision of abortion, the republican candidates have disqualified themselves on that because they don't want to talk about it but here we have democrats willing to protect everyone's freedom and not just democrat freedom. everybody's freedom across the board. you look at the afford ability crisis. we come in with affordability solutions. that's the powerful one two punch. >> i was just talking to marilyn lands about this in alabama where the things republicans are doing in alabama are where people say they are not interested in this. what is the relationship between people who identify. >> you can look at the ballot

initiative going onto protect access to freedom. this is an initiative that collected petitions. the people of florida have spoken clearly. now we just hope the florida supreme court will listen. we know in my caucus, we believe every floridian deserve to be healthy, prosperous, and safe. that is what we will continue to work on. >> florida is an interesting place to follow. since the time barack obama won florida, the politics and the behavior of the politicians there has changed a lot. tell me about what the shape to reclaim florida looks like for democrats. is abortion central to that attempt? >> i think abortion will be central to every conversation because it is top of mind for people. we saw what happened in alabama with the ivf decision and folks

were like whoa what is happening? they don't want to just stop at abortion. right? now they are looking at contraception and other things so yes, it will be central to every conversation. i hope the florida supreme court listen to the will of the people and look at this ballot language that is simple and elegant and approve it and allow floridians who have their voices heard. we will have to talk about the issues that matter the most to voters. that's what we did to the special election. we talked about abortion. we talked about affordability. especially in the name of property insurance and that's what the community wants to hear. we have to deliver solutions. >> thank you. >> thank you. tonight's last word is next. st word is next. and retirement savings. voya helps you choose the right amounts without over or under investing. so you can feel confident in your financial choices voya, well planned, well invested, well protected. shop etsy until april 15th and get up to 30% off thoughtful pieces made by real people

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april 15th. that will make him the first former american president to ever stand trial on criminal charges. for the democratic party, the headlines are of a noticeably different sort. tomorrow night at radio city music hall, just across the street from 30 rock where i sit right now, joe biden will participate in a campaign fundraiser unlike any other in the modern political era. in conversation with the nation's last two term president barack obama. but, doesn't stop there. joining them for good measure the former president bill clinton. three american presidents on one stage together in front of thousands of people in a discussion moderated by stephen colbert. leon who worked for both the obama and clinton administrations told the associated press there isering to be gained by joe biden standing next to bill clinton and barack obama. that picture is worth a hell of a lot in politics today. the ap report also note it is

display of solidarity is a sharp contrast to donald trump's isolation from other republican leaders. the optics here are clear. democrats are united, and republicans are not. and the biden campaign is leaning into that. the president will be using this fund raising event to keep building on what has become joe biden's massive and for republicans rather worrisome campaign cash lead over donald trump. it is very early in what promises to be a long general election campaign. but if you had to pick for just this one week, would you rather be candidate biden or candidate trump? that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle begins right now. tonight, donald trump's skyrocketing legal bills. how the republican nominee is covering the