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enduring, endlessly controversial, and ugly political debate over abortion. now from the olden days when i grew up in the 1980s, this is how abortion was experienced by women in much of the united states. >> a woman accused of setting fires at three abortion clinics is under arrest tonight in new jersey. >> real feminists don't kill babies. >> there were similar demonstrations in other parts of the country. in albany, in syracuse, new york, 150 arrests. in philadelphia, the demonstrators went limp and police carted them off on stretchers. 40 demonstrators in dayton, ohio, were charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct, and resisting arrest. a nationwide reign of terror against abortion providers kicked off, women forced to enter abortion clinics behind barricades and a police presence under a huddle of escorts.

guerilla warfare tactics were particularly used against these clinics. those that worked in them were also the targets of extreme violence, including arson, bombings, murders, and acid attacks. this was life in the 1980s in america. seeing anti-abortion terrorists bombing and torching clinics throughout the country. here, you're seeing the destruction of a clinic in pensacola, florida, using pipe bombs. it was one of three clinics bombed by four people early christmas morning in 1984. this pensacola multi-arson attack wasn't unique for the area. in fact, pensacola, florida, became a hotbed of anti-abortion hysteria in that decade. the hysteria only worsened and got more organized when conservative groups like operation rescue made going to an abortion clinic as a patient or working at one particularly dangerous. here you see operation rescue protesters in minneapolis where

153 people were arrested and carted out of a building where they blocked a hallway leading to an abortion clinic inside. according to slate, operation rescue would organize abortion clinic hits as clinic defenders called them, in which hundreds of members would mob a single abortion clinic. over the course of the 1980s, the u.s. lost nearly 20% of abortion providers. the slate article reports the observe azs of longtime women's choice clinic director lindsey comey who said the attacks were spearheaded by, quote, very angry men. they added, this was a fight about male superiority, and the worst of the right wing came out to join that struggle, not only were they women haters, but they were queer haters. it was a christian militia. the 1990s and 2,000s were about much better. others would follow including one doctor who was killed as he

stood in the foyer of his church. >> dr. david gunn was shot as he got out of his car. a dozen anti-abortion protesters were outside. one of them was armed. when the doctor arrived -- >> a guy took after the doctor and shot him point blank in the back. then he surrendered to the cops. >> dr. john britain and a man accompanying him were shot to death outside a pensacola abortion clinic. >> dr. george tiller was killed in his church. >> it was a violent and cruel era. women and abortion clinic workers basically lived through three decades of terrorism around abortion. but something else had also happened in the 1980s. in france, where a new drug, mifepristone, commonly called ru-486, was developed to be taken for medication abortion care. the arrival of a drug that would allow women to skip the

miserable and even terrifying process of facing down anti-abortion zealots at clinics was a game changer. the drug was approved for use in france in 1988. but american women had to wait much longer. >> there is a pill made in france that induces abortion, but it is not sold in the united states and may never be. >> the reason -- anti-abortion groups which promise an economic war against any firm which even tries to bring in ru-486. >> you're going to see literally millions of people across the united states rise in outrage over this. that company will be boycotted. >> but ru-486 continued to be used in parts of europe and china. by the year 2000, american women finally got access to the drug. today, more than 60% of abortions in the u.s. are done using mifepristone medication. medication abortion literally saved women from harassment and from terrorism. and from needing police escorts

to literally lift them over anti-abortion protesters blocking the entrances of clinics like this woman in 1988. but the religious far right has not given up their fight to close off this and every other avenue to women's bodily autonomy. first step was overturned roe v. wade. check. alito took care of that. the vociferous opponent of reproductive freedom whose slow burning hostility burned bright after finally overturning roe. so much so that he literally gloated and joked about unleashing women's suffering during his look what i did world tour. next, a far right judge in texas took up the baton, that would be judge james ho of the fifth circuit court of appeals who served on the three-judge panel that ruled to restrict access to mifepristone. here's something interesting about the -- interesting and clarence thomas-y about him. per the guardian, his wife allison is a powerhouse federal

appellate lawyer who has argued in front of the supreme court and has deep connections to the conservative legal movement that has led to the attack on the right to abortion in the u.s. the judge also once clerked for, drum roll, clarence thomas. i know, i know, we live in the worst simulation ever. which brings us back to the conservative majority supreme court, which held oral arguments today on whether to overturn the fda's approval of mifepristone more than 20 years ago. today's arguments came down to three questions. question number one, how in the world do these people have standing? >> rolling back fda's changes would unnecessarily restrict access to mifepristone with no safety justification. some women could be forced to undergo more invasive surgical abortions. others might not be able to access the drug at all, and all of this would happen at the request of plaintiffs who have no certain injury of their own. >> number two, how is this small group of doctors able to make a decision not just for their own patients but for every woman in

america? >> they're saying because we object to having to be forced to participate in this procedure, we're seeking an order preventing anyone from having access to these drugs at all. and i guess i'm just trying to understand how they could possibly be entitled to that, given the injury that they have alleged. >> there's a profound mismatch here between the claimed injury and the remedy they were seeking. >> and number three, should some doctors' individual religious objection to abortion be allowed to override decades of the fda's scientific judgment over the safety of this medication? >> respondents don't identify any evidence that the agency overlooked. they just disagree with the agency's analysis of the data before it. but that doesn't provide a license to authorize judicial second guessing of the agency's experts judgments. >> joining me is my dear friend and colleague rachel maddow, the host of the rachel maddow show.

rachel, always good to see you. that was my take, you know, i'm an '80s baby. so -- not an '80s baby, but i was young, so i just remember the abortion debate as like terrorism and now this being freedom for a lot of women. that was my take. what is yours on what we saw today? >> yeah, joy, i think that was a really important and sobering setup. some of those images you showed are images i have never seen before. the image of the woman being lifted over the line of abortion protesters by police, i mean, i have never seen that before. that was incredible. i mean, there's the technical arguments here, and there's, you know, the fda drug approval process. not just for this drug but for every drug, which this ruling at the district court level in texas and the fifth circuit would put at risk. if they got their way, it wouldn't just potentially challenge the approval of mifepristone. it would challenge the approval of thousands of drugs. so there's sort of the technical side of this. but then, what you point out,

the real lived experience of american women who need abortion care, who need to get abortions. and having the option of getting a medication abortion, it's not appropriate for everybody and in every circumstance, but it is for a lot of abortions. actually now for a majority of abortions. and what they're trying to do is take it away. not just in the states where they have already banned abortion. they're trying to take it away nationwide. they want a nationwide ban. california, illinois, massachusetts, everywhere. and the science and the reasoning in these lower court arguments that they're considering is so out there and so beyond the pale. it is a little bit frightening. a little bit sort of shaking me up a bit that the supreme court is even hearing this at all. >> yeah, and the thing is, you saw kind of a peek into sort of what they're thinking is. samuel alito, i presume, is going to vote to end women's abscess to mifepristone because he seems himself as a defender

of the faith, per the little tour he made after getting rid of roe v. wade. you sort of got a peek into their argument. number one, the comstock rule has been brought in. you're sending a dangerous drug through the mail seems to be one way to do it. the other being that these doctors had this deep religious conviction against abortion, which when i was in the '80s, they used to call ru-486 human pesticide. that's how they used to refer to it, the religious right. they could just not prescribe it. but i think it's a religious liberty argument, i think alito is going for. >> yeah, and that conscience objection that you're talking about, that was a main point of discussion today at the oral arguments. the fact remains that if there's a health care provider who says they have a conscience based objection to providing abortion care, they don't have to. that's already in federal law that exists. you don't have to be the doctor

who does it. there could be some other doctor in the hospital who provides that care. that exists. that's not in question. that's not being challenged anywhere in the country. and essentially, the plaintiffs here are asking the supreme court justices to say that's not enough. we just don't want anybody to be able to get this care anywhere in any of the 50 states in the country. and the standing issue i think is the most likely grounds on which it will be decided because that's the easiest way out for the supreme court, to be able to say hey, there's nobody being harmed here, nobody is making you provide abortion care that you don't want to provide. so it's not going to happen, but the comstock act thing that you're referencing, i think is a tell. because the comstock act, as you're correct to note, hasn't been enforced in over a century. a law from 1873. it would be an insane way for them to try to ban abortion nationwide. but clearly, samuel alito and clarence thomas have their eyes on it. kept bringing it up over and over again today as if this is a

commonly used current statute. and it shows you that they are looking for a way to ban abortion nationwide. you have donald trump campaigning for the republican presidential nomination saying he wants a national ban. you have the republicans in congress, a vast majority of whom have signed on to resolution that would imply a national ban. you have the conservatives in the court saying they want a national ban. this is what republicans in power will do. and what portions of the supreme court are trying to get away with, even right now. >> yeah, and then there's in addition to all of that, and i think for a lot of women, the left wept to sleep for 50 years after roe v. wade passed. they say we got this right and didn't see it coming. i think i was one of the people who was like being like, guys, they really mean it when they want to ban it. they're going to overturn roe. be that as it may, the people doing it is an issue too. there's a weird clarence thomas-aness to. it's not just josh holley's wife

who also tried to push get rid of roe, but you also have james hoh. the alliance defending freedom, six payments from 2018 to 2022 to his wife, the judge's wife, allison. she's a powerhouse federal appellate lawyer who has argued in front of the court and has deep connections to the legal conservative movement. it's like these are the serena joys, these women who are kind of leading the fight to get rid of the right to choose for the rest of the women in america. >> i mean, ms. hawley is an experienced litigator. she's been at big important law firms. she's, you know, she's good at what she does. i think she made the best case that could be made today before the supreme court. i will say that she doesn't have an easy hand to play even before these justices. joy, part of the drama here is that the supreme court took this, even though the initial case, the federal district court case in texas that brought this, it cited, in talks about

mifepristone, two studies about the supposed unsafeness of mifepristone. two studies that have been retracted since they were published. it cited one doctor who is not a doctor whose highest degree is a masters in theological study. it cited another source for their unsafeness of mifepristone which has been prescribed thousands and thousands of times over decades in this country and is a perfectly safe drug. another source for the mifepristone claims they upheld at the fifth circuit that they cited at the fifth circuit was from a website that says that barack obama hypnotized the american people using verbal tricks and the big o in his campaign logo was a crystal ball mesmerizing us. and that is the source of the citations that the fifth circuit used for saying that mifepristone shouldn't be taken because their serious scientific

information disproved it. for something that clownish to get up through the fifth u.s. circuit court of appeals and then get up to the supreme court is crazy town. it just shows you how hard they are working, how much -- how they're working triple time to find any way to get a nationwide abortion ban. that's what they want. and they're going to try to get it by hook or by crook. >> when people tell you want they want to do, maybe believe them. they have been saying this for 50 years. before i let you go and release this hostage situation that i always implement whenever you're on the show with me, so something happened, another thing happened that is not about the abortion situation. our chairman of the nbc universal news group, who we know well, he sent a meme that we all got as employees here, rescinding the hiring of ronna romney-mcdaniel. i felt strongly about it, i know you felt strongly, everyone felt very strongly and said so on our

respective shows yesterday. and i just have to say, when somebody does the right thing, i feel like it should be acknowledged as publicly as we acknowledge our outrage. i know how i feel about it. i'm grateful to cesar for making the right decision. i want to get your take as well. >> thank you for asking me about it. i still feel like a little -- it always feels wrong to talk about things, you know, in the company as if it's news. >> agreed. >> it's not the way either you or i are wired. but i will just say that journalists are a fractious bunch, and in our big company with all sorts of different journalistic entities you have all sorts of different people working in this business doing all sorts of different work. to see essentially the unanimous feeling among all of the journalists in this building and all of the senior staff and producers and everybody in this building about this was one thing. then to see the executives and the leadership hear that and respond to it and be willing to

change course based on it, based on their respect for us and hearing what we argued, i have deep respect for that. i mean what i said on the air last night in my show, that i think acknowledging that you might have gotten something wrong is a real sign of strength, a real show of strength. i think it's a show of strngt and a show of respect for the people who work at this company and who make us who we are. that leadership was willing to change on this, and i'm grateful to them. it's not about hiring a republican. not even about hiring someone who has trump ties. this was a really specific case because of ms. mcdaniels' involvement in the election interference stuff. i'm grateful that our leadership was willing to do the, i think, the bold, strong, resilient thing. >> we're going to be using her name because she's a witness in the michigan electors case. it's less awkward to have to say, and by the way, this person works for nbc news. we're glad we don't have to do that. rachel maddow, it's always a pleasure, my friend.

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the recovery effort continues in baltimore tonight. after the francis scott key bridge collapsed overnight when a shipping vessel headed for sri lanka lost power and hit a pillar. earlier today, maryland governor wes moore credited the ship's crew for a mayday call that allowed local authorities to limit traffic. >> to hear the words that the key bridge has collapsed, it's shocking. and heartbreaking. literally by being able to stop cars from coming over the bridge, these people are heroes. they saved lives last night. >> governor moore said the situation remains a search and rescue effort. at least six construction workers who had been working on the bridge remain unaccounted for. transportation secretary pete buttigieg reiterated president

biden's pledge that the federal government will do whatever it can to get the bridge reopened. >> the path to normalcy will not be easy. it will not be quick. it will not be inexpensive. but we will rebuild together. >> a preliminary investigation indicated the cause of the collapse was an accident with no signs of nefarious intent. on the right, many of the unusual no time for politics types spread conspiracy theories with right-wing talking points, like fox host maria bartiromo and cpac chairman matt schlapp. >> the ship involved in the collapse of the bridge is 948 feet long, called the dali. a singaporean flagged containier. you have been talking a lot about the potential for wrongdoing or potential for foul play given the wide open border. >> i'm one of these people that believes never fully come out of all the lockdowns and the covid issues. i'm no expert on what's going on

on the seas but all i would say is that if you talk to employers in america, they'll tell you that filling slots with employees who aren't drug addled is a very huge problem. >> meanwhile, republican running for governor of utah blamed the bridge collapse on -- you will not guess -- diversity. and governors who prioritize diversity over the wellbeing and security of citizens. i'm not making that up. joining me now is congressman fumie who represents baltimore. i'm tempted to ask maria bartiromo, the wide open border with virginia, the commentary is so ridiculous. i'm going to hold off on commenting on that for a moment. talk to me about the situation in terms of those still missing and those who might have been injured in this horrible accident. >> thank you very much. the situation is still search and rescue, although i think the

divers are coming up out of the water now, it's getting dark here, and they have been going down many times a day. sonar has located in an area, one or two vehicles, we still don't know who the occupy nlts of those vehicles are or if there are occupants. and the families as you might imagine of these individuals, all six families, very, very much stressed tonight. not knowing any more than what we know, as we talk about this through news outlets. this appears by all means to have been an accident. the fbi, special agent in charge has been with us all day here. he's pretty much confirmed that several times even though some people want to count everything as a conspiracy. president biden reached out earlier. he had great conversation with him, both myself and also the two senators representing the area. the president has pledged as he said to move heaven and hell to get this taken care of. this is going to cost the port

$2 million a day. it's probably going to take months to clear the debris because in order for the channel to open up, all that steel structure has to be removed from under the surface of the ocean. and god only knows it will take several years to reconstruct this bridge. but things are better in the sense that at least we know that this was not terrorist related. as least we know now there are no other individuals other than the ones that have been designated as still missing. and we do know also that there is a great deal of comfort being given to the families at this time. >> congressman, i am just hearing now from my producers that there is an update now to the situation. the search and rescue portion of the effort is now suspended. the six people who are missing are now presumed dead. i want to get your commentary on that, sir. >> well, it's a grave tragedy. these persons were out on the

bridge at 1:30 in the morning filling potholes and doing work late at night. and as the governor mentioned earlier, if we did not get a mayday signal from the boat to the coast guard so that the state police could close down both ends of the bridge, many more people would have died. it is a real tragedy. it's something that none of us can anticipate or even imagine, quite frankly. and if that search and rescue has been suspended or called off completely, it just gives all of us a solemn moment for pause for a tragedy, far too many tramgieds in america as we know it. >> indeed, in addition to just the horror of what those six people and those also who were injured must have gone through, kind of the obvious question, while republicans want to talk about ridiculous things like trying to bring dei and race into it, the regulation, though, when i saw this, this morning and saw the live stream that was up, i wonder about a federal regulation aspect of it.

republicans tend to hate regulation, but this seems like a place where regulation is needed. is this something you discussed with secretary buttigieg or want to discuss with the administration. regulation is what keeps large ships from being in the vicinity of vulnerable infrastructure such that things like this could happen. >> you're absolutely right, joy. this whole notion is being revisited. most people would say technically that there were plenty of regulations in place. the ships are brought down the bay with a, quote, pilot who has to go through seven years of training before they can guide ships out by directing the captain or the navigator of the ship. and there were at some point tugboats moving the ship initially out of the harbor. but even secretary buttigieg will tell you that you can never have enough regulations when human life and property is at risk. and in this instance, where the

vital lifeline, economic lifeline of an entire state is at risk. >> indeed. and i think that's a message republicans may not want to hear, but it is the right message. deepest condolences to the families of the six now who are presumed dead who were working on that vessel. i thank you, congressman, for joining us tonight. >> thank you, joy. just shame on those people who want to make something out of this that isn't there. they have this bogeyman philosophy, and if it's black or brown, it's something that they have got a target on. i just think it's just totally uncalled for at a time like this. >> well said. thank you, sir. coming up, there's been a lot of doom and gloom on the left about the 2024 election. but new polls have good news for biden. that's next. for biden. that's next. ing preservision was easy. preservision has the exact clinically proven areds 2 formula recommended by the nei. i'm taking control like millions of others.

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after month of hearing nonstop about how donald trump is supposedly crushing president biden in every poll, well, except the six polls that biden was leading in last week, well, it's beginning to look like the tide is changing. new polling today from bloomberg and morning consult shows the president gaining ground against trump in six out of seven key swing states. biden now leads trump by one point in wisconsin. the two are tied in pennsylvania and michigan and the gap is narrowing in arizona, nevada, and north carolina. it's important to note that most of these findings are within the

margin of error, and of course, polls taken this far out should be taken with a giant grain of salt. however, it does give us a snapshot of where the race currently stands after the two candidates officially became presumptive nominees and after biden's strong state of the union address. it also sends some warning signs about the potential impact of a third party candidate. the polls show that in all swing states combined, trump leads biden 47/43 in a head to head matchup. but add in independent candidate robert f. kennedy jr. into the mix, and that lead widens, with trump gaining 43%, biden, 38, and kennedy receiving 9%. it comes as today, ken adannounced his running mate will be wealthy silicon valley attorney who has never run for elected office. joining me is basil smikle, director of the public policy program at hunter college, and susan del percio, republican

strategist and msnbc political analyst. we love doing that. ladies first. the whole people like bed wetting democrats is what they do, i always thought it was early to be doing that, but your take on the new polls? >> it was early because they were close in 2016, close in 2020. they're going to be close in 2024. if they're within the margin of error, it doesn't matter who is up two or down three. it's close. now, there was one thing i was taking away from the polls. that was enthusiasm for biden. and there is something to that. and we have been seeing it with younger people, people of color. just generally his base. there's also another thing that biden has to face, is that trump voters are with trump. >> no matter what. >> they are voting for him because they want him. there's a significant amount of biden voters who are voting for biden because they hate trump. >> right. >> and those are the voters who you can't rely on to come out to vote, unless you give them a reason. and that's why you hope to raise

$155 million and have it in the bank this early. >> they're on the way to doing it. the cash advantage, having worked in campaigns a little bit, you need money. i mean, apparently, trump had to cancel an event they wanted to do in arizona because they don't have enough money. whereas, biden is raising money hand over fist. they have a huge fund-raiser this thursday with president obama, president clinton, all the celebrities they can put across the street. it's huge. >> and i'm not going. >> how are you not going? >> i have to teach a class. students first. but that's right. the cash advantage is incredibly important because we know that donald trump is raising cash to pay for his legal fees. joe biden uses it to actually go and talk to those voters. that's incredibly important. a lot of those skeptical voters, the state of the union helped tremendously, i think because it showed he was willing to take it there. for a long time, we said, i had issues with this, but a lot of people said when they go low, we

go high. i'm from the bronx, i don't get that. >> when they go low, we go to the earth's core. >> when you're confronted with a bully, you punch them in the nose. >> for the children, as nancy pelosi said. >> and look, i think my mentor used to tell me this all the time. voters may forgive a liar, but they will not forgive a hypocrite. what the biden administration is doing by having the cabinet members out there talking aboute is call attention to the hypocrisy of not just the republican party, donald trump specifically, you see that in the court cases. focus on the values, and that shift i think is what is represented in the polls. >> and do the job. we just saw in this horrible bridge collapse, republicans, where they go is it's the open border. the open border, what, with virginia or delaware? what are they talking about, and dei. trying to blame the blacks for a ship hitting a bridge. whereas biden can send pete

buttigieg down there and say look, we're going to fix this. >> what's interesting about that is he kind of is using the rose garden strategy with his cabinet members instead of himself, which is really smart, so he can look like the government is running. and then he can use that early money, like he did with the $30 million advertising buy. to make a commercial kind of having a little fun out of himself, to make the health care, the affordable care act commercial, which i thought was powerful. they're targeting it so we don't usually see that coming out of a white house so early in a campaign. but we are, and it's important because it firms up those numbers that we really need to see for joe biden. >> yeah, and also, part of the enthusiasm gap was obviously gaza. the shift on gaza i think is important, and also, finally naming the villain which is netanyahu, it seems like finally, it makes sense. >> i gotta tell you, going back to my students. a lot of them saying they weren't going to vote in this election. i cannot in the classroom be a

democratic evangelist, i just can't. i can't do that, but i can talk about the electoral ramifications of not voting, of why that's important. and say look, if you don't want to vote for the individual, vote like this is a parliamentary election. vote for the agenda. one agenda is expanding your rights and allowing you to go out and actually vote. another agenda is finding every way it can to restrict your vote. >> and also banning abortion and making sure every woman is essentially chattel. >> i think, and this is going back to the earlier point, when they look at the choice that they have, maybe not a preference, but a choice that they have, they'll favor one agenda over another. >> we shall see. basil smikle and susan del percio. we love having them on. thank you. up next, the shocking details of the federal raid, you know we were talking about this, of multiple homes owned by sean "diddy" combs after a series of lawsuits accused him of serious sexual misconduct. we'll be right back.

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ventura, alleged physical and sexual abuse, which combs has denied. the source also confirmed three women and a man have been interviewed by federal officials in manhattan. in relation to allegations of sex trafficking, sexual assault, and the solicitation and distribution of illegal narcotics and firearms. late today, combs' lawyer issued the following statement. quote, yesterday, there was a gross overuse of military level force as search warrants were executed at mr. combs' residences. there was no excuse for the excessive show of force and hostility exhibited by the authorities or the way his children and employee were treated. mr. combs was never detained but spoke to and cooperated with authorities. neither mr. combs nor any of his family members have been arrested nor has their ability to travel been restricted in way. this unprecedented ambush leads to a premature rush of judgment of mr. combs and nothing more than a witch hunt based on

meritless accusations made in civil lawsuits. there's been no finding of criminal or civil liability. mr. combs is insbt and will fight to clear his name. joining me is toure, host of masters of the game. a new season premieres pride. what is going on? we also did see diddy's sons arrested, detained, not arrested but detained. what is going on? >> it seems that there are several people who are saying things about combs to the government. and they are trying to figure out what's going on. i found it interesting that they had enough to get a search warrant for multiple places but not enough to arrest him. we're in the investigation phase. and clearly, they don't care if leave people in his wake hurt. we go back to ccny, a party

that he over promoted that people ended up getting killed. you think about the many artists who either left or went to the church or died. there was a lot of disheartened artists. on and on and now this large growing number of people who are alleging crazy stuff about him. these are things that people in the industry have been hearing about. >> it's disturbing. >> i was personally disturbed. i know this man well enough to call him and say i need a favor. 10 or 12 years ago that i called him and said i have a family member who i want you to hire them and i have never talked about this publicly. and he said yes? they were flying around, one of the interns landing from miami

in the house or whatever and then the internships stop abruptly, like three or four months into it. i spoke to my family member and said what happened? and they wouldn't say. and years later, they finally came out, a male and said that puff had said come home, stay the night with me or the internship is over. and they said absolutely not. in the internship and did. but from there i was like, this is how it goes. this is how i heard that things went even further with potentially, allegedly many other people. you know, we feel like we've seen this coming. >> there was a situation with russell simmons who does not live in the united states any further. you've had the situations already with r. kelly. this feels like it is going down

that kind of attract because you have multiple accusers with nothing proven, he has not been adjudicated,-- a >> and videos. >> and he paid cassie a lot of money. >> and the people coming with videos, evidence, not just hearsay. this is a very, very frightening situation. there was a period in the record business where a lot of wildness was going on of this sort and here's another shoe dropping. >> what he is saying sounds very trump-ey talking about a witchhunt. i forwarded to you for someone saying watch for him to try to weapon eyes a trump sort of narrative or watch the trump people try to weapon eyes what is happening in favor of trump to say there's this persecuted black man like me, and try to weapon eyes it. >> i hate to say that anyone is like trump but there is something in the long-term rise of puff in that he seemed to

create his own reality to demand that everyone around him follow what he wanted and people did. he had a ton of money behind him at a very young age. he has called me up and screamed at me on more than one occasion and lots of people would say-- the ego was gigantic and the ability to create the reality that he wanted seemed to be there. >> and also to create a reality that is dangerous. a lot of hip-hop fans, the failure to protect notorious b.i.g. and the egging on of a rivalry between friends, people who knew and respected each other and didn't have to be beefing, and also oversampling and making hip-hop into a sample machine, don't get me started. i'm only doing that because you're my friend and you will defend me. don't get me started. is he in the united states? do we know? >> i don't know.

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remember this moment from 2020? it was one of the most shameful of the trump presidency and that is saying a lot. a group of nonviolent demonstrators including clergy who were gathered outside of the white house to protest the brutal police killing of george floyd were tear gassed just so donald trump could walk across the street and hold a bible he had never touched before in front of a church he had never been to before, for a photo opportunity. today he is once again using the bible as a prop but this time as part of his never- ending grist. in honor of holy week with

easter days away, trump is peddling god bless the usa bibles. you heard that right. the man who is about to face criminal trial for allegedly paying off a pornography start to keep quiet about their affair while his third wife was at home with his newborn fifth child, is selling bibles. billing itself as the only bible endorsed by president trump, these bibles include the us constitutions, the bill of rights, the declaration of independence, the pledge of allegiance as well as the handwritten chorus of god bless the usa, all for the low price of $59.99. no word on if it comes with a free pair of gold sneakers that you can worship. golden calf, golden shoes, whatever. that is tonight's readout. all in with chris hayes starts now. >> very important, and very important to me.