real shock and tragedy that is something that the community feels in a larger scale as well that can absolutely drive how they feel about then how the federal government responds, how quickly it might and how long this might actually take to rebuild, but i think it is a moment where the president would say it is not the time for politics yet, but we all know politics does, of course, come into play. andrea? >> thanks to you, monica. thanks, of course, to ryan nobles valiantly up all night, all morning. tim, thanks to you. i wanted to do a shoutout to wbal, our affiliate in baltimore with all the helicopter coverage, the instant coverage and wrc, our great owned and operated nbc station right here in washington out there all night and those aerials are incredible. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media at mitchell reports. you can watch highlights of the

show on youtube and "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. we are following two massive stories. both with the potential to impact millions of americans. in maryland, the governor says the focus now is on saving lives. could the six people or more missing since the stunning collision and collapse of the francis scott key bridge still be alive? and then the wider logistical and economic impact. 30,000 people used that bridge every day. now that it is gone, what is next for the city and one of the country's biggest ports. plus, it is the biggest abortion-related case since roe. the supreme court hearing arguments today over whether access to the abortion pill should be restricted even in states where abortion is legal. what experts are telling us about which way the justices may be leaning and my conversation

with the head of the nonprofit physicians for reproductive health on what this decision could mean for women, doctors and the country as a whole. but we start with that ongoing search for survivors. and for answers following the catastrophic bridge collapse in maryland just before 1:30 this morning. right now, search and rescue teams are still looking for six members of a construction crew who fell into the patapsco river after a massive cargo ship slammed into the key bridge and brought the whole thing down. no matter how many times you see it, this is a harrowing and shocking sight. in all, eight people went into the river, but two were rescued. governor wes moore credits the ship's crew with ensuring there weren't more people on the bridge. >> we're thankful that between the mayday and the collapse that we had officials who were able to begin to stop the flow of traffic. many of the vehicles were stopped before they got on to the bridge, which saved lives in

a very, very heroic way. >> governor moore says it appears to be a tragic accident. no sign of terrorism, but the impact is significant. from the potential loss of life, to the economy, to traffic and, of course, the cost of rebuilding. i want to bring in ryan nobles in baltimore. also with me, russell honore, bob shoally, veteran diving and salvage officer who walked on the recoveries involving twa flight 800 and uss cole. what can you tell us about the search and rescue operation right now? >> reporter: well, we are nearing 12 hours since this bridge collapse behind me and a frantic search continues now for what we believe are the six remaining victims who have yet to be recovered.

officials and rescue teams were on the scene moments after that bridge dramatically collapsed within three seconds after being hammered by that 1,000 foot vessel that slammed into the base of the key bridge. and the work has not been easy. when they arrived here, it was under the cover of night. the temperatures were in the 30 degree range. the water temperature around 45 degrees making everything that much more difficult. and also, complicating that they didn't know how many people they were looking for in those initial stages. but the search and rescue teams say that they are continuing, they will not stop until they find everyone involved in this particular tragedy. and then the next stage of this will be the recovery and the rebuilding. this as you already pointed out a major artery through baltimore, impacting thousands and thousands of people every day, 35,000 cars travel over the key bridge on a daily basis. president biden vowing the federal government will be here

to help open the port and get the bridge rebuilt. >> i spoke with governor moore this morning as well as the mayor of baltimore, the county executive, both united states senators and the congressmen and my secretary of transportation is on the scene. i told them we're going to send all the federal resources they need as we respond to this emergency and i mean all the federal resources. we're going to rebuild that port together. >> reporter: and one of the other things that president biden said is that the federal government will pick up the entire tab for the rebuilding of the key bridge, which may not be an easy task. there is some money available in the recently passed infrastructure law, but he hinted that he may need the help of congress to make that a reality. governor moore also saying earlier today that he vowed to have the key bridge opened as soon as possible. but, of course there is the more immediate concern right now, chris, about recovering the victims of this awful tragedy.

that continues and we are expecting law enforcement to give us an update in the near future. they said they will continue until they find everyone involved. chris? >> ryan, thank you for that. so, general, let's start there. how difficult will it be to find survivors or victims? you have all the debris in the water. you have the tide. what is facing these rescuers? >> well, i'm going to defer to the captain who is the subject matter expert. my experience with this is dealing several recovery efforts. we deployed naval and coast guard assets during my year and a half at the pentagon, the operations center. i will say this, from that experience, between the ship and the bridge and god bless those who have not been found yet, but the intensity of the recovery

operation right now, the search and rescue, the coast guard was nearby, they were able to respond quickly, and the assets are there. the president told the coast guard you're in charge and united states, core engineers, you clear the river, get the bridge out of the river. this is a strategic asset and we would look at what threats in the united states. this was a key strategic asset that we pay close attention to in the pentagon to make sure it was protected along with local and the coast guard. it could have been worse, and right now it is going to take time. it took five years to build the bridge. this is a multiyear operation to rebuild that bridge. thank you. >> there is no doubt, general, that the logistics of this are huge, but, captain, to you, and let me ask you what are the specific difficulties facing those searchers right now?

>> well, it is a hard job, chris. and my heart goes out to the victims, their families, and i also know what a job it is for those first responder divers, though they're, i'm sure, going to put everything they have into trying to find those remaining victims in the water. as the general said, the depth of water is a blessing, 50 feet or less is relatively shallow. and that's going to be one factor that is not making it harder. but a lot of factors that are making it hazardous condition for the divers. and that is that it is very cold water as was reported before, in the 40s, which makes it cold water diving, which means the divers have to have thermal protection for the entire duration of the dives, either more than just wet suits, probably dry suits or -- and

then also the current in the river is going to be a very big challenge. and they're going to have to watch the current the entire time. sometimes it will be no current, but a lot of times it will be a very rapid current, which is going to make it harder. and that's going to make it harder to find the victims whether the victims are still there in the vicinity of the bridge, or have gone -- have been pushed away from the bridge makes this search for the victims harder and the recovery and, of course, the structure of the bridge is going to cause problems finding the victims. whether it is the crew or if there is still vehicles that they're searching for, they have technology, of course, with the sonar looking for vehicles that might still be involved in this tragedy. >> that starts me toward my next question, which is how much of this is the human factor and by that i mean those divers who are

going down obviously with all of the considerations and challenges that you just mentioned, but how much technology is available to help them in that search? >> there is a lot of technology and we have seen it in many of these underwater searches between site scan sonar they can use, deployed from their boats to handheld sonars, which the divers can use independently with just holding in their hands and utilizing independent of the boats. and then autonomous sonars they can deploy in the water that do not have to be tethered from the boats. so a lot of technology that they have used in all of these underwater searches that should be available to the first responders. and i understand they already deployed side scan sonar up there to help look for vehicles and i'm sure that they're utilizing as many assets as they

can get their hands on, which are readily available in the baltimore area. >> nbc's george solis is covering this story from baltimore. what do we know from officials, from press conferences, what do we know about how this happened? >> reporter: yeah, chris, that's part of this larger investigation. we know that the boat -- the cargo ship lost power at some point. one thing we do know from authorities is that they were able to issue a mayday. the crew issuing a mayday before the collision, which as officials noted prevented larger tragedy perhaps since vehicles were kept off of the bridge, but keep in mind, that search is still ongoing for those six workers that they believe fell into the water, those workers that were working on potholes on the bridge at that hour. one thing i want to show you from our vantage point, you can see the aftermath of this collision. take a look. you can see the cargo ships, off in the distance, right next to the francis scott key bridge, still partially submerged in the water. and scenes out here have been

playing out like something out of a hollywood movie as you see search vessels in the water, choppers flying really low here and aerial assets as we're told so crucial in these types of searches. the other part of this is the community aspect of this. this bridge has been here since the 1970s. young and old have stories about going over that bridge. it means so much to the people here because of the history and the context. the person that it is named after, francis scott key, the author of the star-spangled banner. you can imagine just the emotional sentiment for those families who are waiting for word on the people who use this bridge. a woman described the rattling of her home when this collision occurred. and her reaction to seeing the bridge in this condition. take a listen. >> very. very emotional. it is sad to see that it is gone. a lot of hard work in there. a lot of baltimore people built it. people from maryland, and it is

completely gone. there is nothing that you can see from it. >> you can turn around and you can't really fathom and look at it. >> reporter: speaking to that sense of pride here over that bridge, and, of course, many wondering how long it will take for it to reopen. as we know, this is part of the baltimore beltway, a major artery for people to get two and from work. the cargo component of it very, very huge here. as you heard from officials repeatedly, right now, the focus remains on finding those six souls they believe are in the water, chris. >> it is a natural thing to ask that question, how did this happen. and there is going to be a lot of information that is going to have to be gathered as there is -- as there are in every mass casualty situation, catastrophic situation as we're seeing with this bridge. what are you going to be

watching for in the days and weeks ahead? >> i'm encouraged by the fact that the crew did give some early warning. but i also remember what -- the first report is normally wrong. we deserve a full investigation of the crew, of the vessel itself, the maintenance record, there has to be accountability of why and how this happened. and should that in the future should ships like this have a tug boat escort that this didn't have. so we'll have to look at all that. that's why we got the experts and with the liability and the insurance companies and the federal government investigation, all that needs to be done. this is not a face value we're going to stop when the cameras stop. they need to investigate, fully investigate that vessel.

>> george solis, lieutenant general russell honore, thank you so much. we'll speak with a councilwoman who was at the press conference about the cleanup, rescue efforts, the impact on the community, she will join me in the next hour. and the other major story we're following today, with massive implications for millions of women as nationwide abortion access again comes before the supreme court, what we heard from inside that courtroom when we're back in 60 seconds. t courtroom when we're back in 60 seconds. when you purchase a pair of bombas socks, tees, or underwear, you also donate one to someone facing homelessness. one purchased equals one donated. 100 million donations and counting. visit bombas.com and get 20% off your first order. you know what's brilliant? boring. think about it. boring is the unsung catalyst for bold.

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drug company, and the plaintiffs, a group of antiabortion doctors and organizations, all made their arguments today. >> fda approved mifepristone based on the agency's scientific judgment that the drug is safe and effective. it maintained that judgment across five presidential administrations, and millions of americans have used mifepristone to safely end their pregnancies. respondents may not agree with that choice, but that doesn't give them article 3 standing to up end the regulatory scheme. >> it is so inflexible, it would up end not just mifeprex, but every drug approval and rems modification fda has made for decades. >> fda approved abortion by mail based on data it admitted was quote not adequate. that violates the apa. the lower court's decision restored long-standing and crucial protections under which millions of women used abortion

drugs. the outsourcing of abortion drug harm to respondent doctors forces them to choose between helping a woman with a life threatening condition and violating their conscience. >> outside the court, there were simultaneous rallies and speeches on both sides of this highly volatile issue. yamiche alcindor is reporting from the supreme court. yamiche, what were the key arguments today? >> reporter: as you pointed out, this is one of the most consequential if not the most consequential abortion case to come before the supreme court since roe v. wade was overturned and you had an one side the fda as well who was represented by the u.s. solicitor general and a lawyer for danco, the maker of mifepristone. they were arguing the fda should have the regulatory rights to continue to regulate and to have the approvals processes and approval authority over this

mifepristone medication and they were arguing that the fda used science-based evidence to continue to not only approve this pill and continue to allow it to be accessible, but also to make it more accessible in recent years. they were arguing on the other side they were arguing that there were hypotheticals and all the different things pitching back against the fda authority to do what they did in recent years was really not based in actual fact. on the other side, you had antiabortion groups who -- and their lawyers arguing that the fda did -- that the fda in expanding the access to this pill, but they made women unsafe and that they did so in a way that would hurt the ability of women to get critical care. they also argued in many ways that doctors including emergency room doctors in particular, that they would possibly be forced to be part of elective abortions including doing things like taking part in dncs, but they did not agree with. now it was really interesting to watch the justices here. this is a 6-3 majority court,

but they all seemed a bit skeptical of the idea that the fda would not be the agency that should be able to make the decision to decide whether or not this abortion pill should continue to be accessible in the way that it was. in particular, i was watching amy coney barrett and listening to her arguments, she was asking science-based questions about ultrasounds, about the effectiveness of this drug, about the procedures of how you take this drug, that was really important i think because you really heard the justices in some ways delving into, well, this is the purview of the fda. i want to point out, of course, that it is a little quieter here now, but for hours and hours you had hundreds of people here, outside the supreme court, many of them antiabortion activists, but also many of them pro abortion activists and sounding off and in some ways underscoring the -- what is at stake in this oral argument and underscoring the nation is yet again turning and focusing on this issue of abortion. the fda says whatever happens here at the supreme court, what the supreme court decides, it is going to have lasting impacts

not just for this abortion pill, but they argue it would be for the fda's approval abilities for a number of other medications and any and all medications possibly. so there is really a real sense here this is going to be a significant case, whatever the supreme court decides. >> so, claire, you're someone who as a politician was very active in this sphere. and also ask you to put your legal hat on for a second, what did you hear today? did you get any clear indications of where you think the justices could be leaning as they weigh in on this? >> well, i think they took -- first of all, i could kind of hear the faint beeping, chris, of the truck backing up, beep, beep, beep, i think there is a little bit of an atmosphere in this supreme court that they know they have caused a political firestorm in this country by removing constitutional freedoms that women had enjoyed for 50 years. but aside from that, if you look at the legal arguments, what i

heard was a decision based on standing. all of us who read the original district court decision, which is a whole other chapter in this ugly book, realized that these doctors, in order to have standing in front of the court, you have to show an actual damage. and you saw justices like gorsuch asking, well, these doctors are not required to treat anyone. these doctors aren't required to prescribe this pill. and i think that you probably will end up with a 7-2 decision based on standing and that's the issue that really was blinking like a red light from the beginning of this case. most legal experts said where is the standing of this group of doctors who just say we don't like abortion and therefore you need to blow up the ability of the fda to approve drugs? i do think that you'll still have some dissents because alito and thomas will find some way to dissent on standing, but i'll be

surprised if this issue -- this case isn't decided on that issue alone. >> i want to follow up on that with mary ziegler, the university of california davis law professor because this issue of standing who has the right to bring this case is so important. justice alito seemed to suggest that even if these plaintiffs don't get what they want, it is possible others, say states, could then go forward and see if they have standing. whatever the decision is, we tend to think of the supreme court as being a final decision, but could it not be the final decision in this case? >> absolutely. i think we have seen in the questions that were asked today, one, that the court if it reaches the conclusion, i think i agree with senator mccaskill, the court is likely to reach, that's going to mean these plaintiffs can't bring this case. it isn't necessarily going to mean that other people can't raise exactly the same arguments going forward, and as you mentioned, some conservative states are in the lower courts

now trying to do just that. it also doesn't mean that some of the questions raised by the plaintiffs can't be raised in other venues. so you saw both justices alito and thomas talking about the comstock act that they were saying bars the mailing of abortion pills and all abortion-related items. you'll see a nod to that argument from justice alito or justice thomas in this opinion and likely to see that argument come back around either before or after the presidential election of 2024. so, whatever happens here is not going to be the kind of final word on the access to this drug mifepristone or some of the other arguments the classifies are making. >> i want to go to one of those other arguments. justice jackson pushed the lawyer for the plaintiffs on why doctors couldn't just object to doing those procedures. i want to play that back and forth. >> assuming we have a world in which they can actually lodge

the objections that you said they have, my question is isn't that enough to remedy their issue, do we have to also entertain your argument that no one else in the world can have this drug or no one else in america should have this drug in order to protect your clients? >> so, again, your honor, it is not possible, given the emergency nature of these situations. >> this case seems like a prime example of turning what could be a small lawsuit into a nationwide legislative assembly on an fda rule or any other federal government action. >> let me go back to that word broad what are the broad implication that impacts professor if access is curtailed, both for the women and the fda? >> i think for women in this case, there are two broad sets of implications that we could see if the court were to go away. we're not anticipating now. one if the court limits access

to this drug or even eliminates access to this drug, that would affect patients in blue as well as red states. and it is where we're emphasizing most abortions in the united states today takes place using this drug. this would affect most abortion seekers and in states that have haven't been as affected yet by the dobbs ruling. if they say this 19th century law turns out to be a back door ban on abortion that none of us would have voted for that would have effects on people in blue states because justice thomas was telegraphing that he thinks this victorian era law makes it a crime to mail or receive abortion pills. for anyone to do that. it would make it a crime for women to do that, make it a crime for people in cases where there is a threat to life to do that. so, that would obviously have implications across the united states as well. i don't expect we're going to get a conclusion on the merits about either of those things in this case, but i do think we're going to see some of of the conservative justices dropping hints they're interested in drawing those legal conclusions

down the road. >> so, claire, that brings me back to the beep, beep, beep, you talked about. we sat side by side, after dobbs, the first election, we were in kansas city together. we saw the impact of curbs on reproductive rights, what they could mean and the voting booth. as these kinds of cases continue to be in the news, as they continue to potentially impact access, what are the implications for november. >> first, let me say the most important implication that i want to underline here is the health and safety of women in america. the second consideration is the political consideration. and it is huge. it is huge. let's look at this case and the politics of this case. josh hawley's wife filed this case in a district in texas where there was one judge that could hear it. and guess who that judge was. a donor to her husband's campaign. a donor to her husband's campaign in 2018.

someone who is nominated to the bench by trump after josh hawley was elected to the senate and they knew he would rule for them. and he ignored, of course, the standing and, by the way, josh hawley represents a state where this drug is illegal. all abortions are banned in missouri. from the moment of conception. including morning after pill and including anything that would impair or in any way impede the implantation of a fertilized egg. no exceptions for rape or incest. so, we have to remember that even though this case is going to fail, i believe, there are still millions of women impacted in a dozen states that this case has absolutely no impact whatsoever on. >> former senator claire mccaskill, yamiche alcindor and mary ziegler, thank you. up next, the massive impact this decision could have on doctors as well as their

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today's supreme court debate over mifepristone, one of two key drugs used for medication abortions, continues the emotionally and politically charged argument that began in 1971. that is when the justices first heard arguments in roe v. wade.

and since then activists on both sides have been making their cases in voting booths and, again, today, outside the court. >> i want to see women and children protected from the violence of abortion pills. >> we are here to boldly defend and tell the court that this medication is safe, that abortion is healthcare. that this case is a sham. >> i would love to see more babies being born alive because children in the womb matter they deserve life. >> the court's decision could stop prescriptions by telemedicine and pills by mail for hundreds of thousands of women each year. but it also has major implications too for doctors who are navigating an increasingly volatile reproductive rights landscape. i want to bring in obgyn and the president and ceo of physicians for reproductive health dr. jamillah parrot. you have called this fragmented access to abortion care, justice by geography. how could stricter access to

mifepristone change how you and your colleagues treat patients? >> it is going to have a devastating effect. we know that more than half of all abortions done in the united states are done using these medications and a growing number are done using telemedicine or virtual medical care services. we have recent data from the society of family plans that shows that almost 15% at this point are done using online or telemedicine services. we also know that abortion is now and has been significantly restricted in many, many states. so limiting the ability of people to be able to access this care through telemedicine limiting our ability to be able to care for people in their own communities is going to continue to worsen reproductive health outcomes, in particular for those most likely to experience poor health outcomes, black women, indigenous folks, people of color, young people will feel

the brunt of these restrictions. >> we talk about the fact earlier that even if you're in a place where abortion is legal, it could impact you and there is this new stud you, i'm sure you saw it, from the journal of the american medical association this week that found that in the first six months after roe was overturned, the demand for self-managed abortion pills spiked. they quadrupled compared to the month before that decision. so, if access shifts, the question becomes what other options do patients have? >> met me say a couple of things about that one, self-managed abortion care, self-managed care in general is not new. people with restrictive access, people who have the desire to care for themselves in ways that are outside of the traditional medical system have been doing so for centuries. self-managed medication abortion is safe, effective. the recent study that you refer to shows that to be true. 27,000 people in the first six months have managed their

abortions safely and effectively and those are just the people we have been able to count. so, that's the first thing that's most important to know. the risk here is not a medical risk. we know that these medications are safe and effective. the risk here is a legal one. we have prosecutors with antiborg intentions that are jailing or arresting, prosecuting people for caring for themselves and their community. these medications are safe, effective, whether i hand you the medication or you manage it in your home, in your community, with folks that you love, you trust and provide the support and love that you need at the moment. one state already has a backup plan. washington governor jay inslee will join me to explain. first, much more on today's bridge collapse in baltimore and the massive imapplicatiive impl

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more now on that breaking news of baltimore's bridge collapse. the impact of blocked access to the port of baltimore for the foreseeable future, the economic impact could be staggering. the port is the 11th largest in the nation, number one for the import and export of automobiles and light trucks. this morning, ford's cfo said the company will reroute parts of the supply chain to minimize

the disruption. senior business correspondent christine romans joins us now. a lot of big companies have major staging areas there. ikea, home depot among them. talk about the impact, but also you gave me a little clue in the break that maybe they have some lessons learned from a few years ago. >> they had a dress rehearsal for something like this, a destruction like this, a few years ago, with covid. a lot of these big companies right away, this morning, when i was starting to make calls, they had rerouted shipments. already finding ways to make sure they could get around, get out of and around this port of baltimore. i think where you might see the most impact would be in the supply chain for autos. we know that ford, toyota, gm, they have already been rerouting some vehicles and some parts of their supply chains because that is a huge hub for the import and export of vehicles. and some economists have been saying down the road maybe you could see some makes and models, there could be some delivery

delays for some makes and models if you're in the market for a new car. but most of all, they are moving very, very quickly to get their goods around. the roll on, roll off kind of containers, specific kind of container for vehicles. so you got two containers full of farm and construction equipment that are blocked there. you got 30 containers outside of the port -- ships trying to come in and 40 inside trying to go out. so all of that has to be unraveled. so it is a staggering disruption. but a disruption not without precedent from some of the companies to learn about how to get around supply concerns. you do not want to magnify this tragedy. dollars and cents at the end of the day is minimal compared with the humanity there that is happening right now. >> it is a horrible thing to say, but when you talk about covid and the lessons learned, is the feeling that whatever implications there are, and we're not trying to minimize

them in any way, the implications are absolutely there, but that they will be shorter and less impactful? >> i think it is fair to say they are scrambling to make sure that that happens. that you will have only short delays here and they will find other ports. there are other ports that will be able to handle this traffic. the question is getting it where it needs to go and changing the supply chains so they can absorb the supplies ems where on the east coast. >> the logistics boggle the mind, thank you. just days before his scheduled release, a russian court ordered "wall street journal" reporter evan gershkovich to stay in jail on espionage charges. the 31-year-old was arrested while on assignment. he and his employer both deny allegations against him. up next, president biden heading to north carolina as we speak just as we're getting in new polls on battleground states. what they say. we're live in raleigh.

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biden and kamala harris will be campaigning together for the second time. the push in north carolina comes as a new poll shows the president trailing in that state but making significant gains against donald trump in other

key states. it's the first time in months the poll has the president within striking distance of trump in a number of states that will decide the election. mike memoli is covering the president's trip joining me here. simone townsend, host of the weekend, a show that i love. okay, mike. that new poll shows the president down 6 percentage points in north carolina but overall, the trend is moving in his direction. so i wonder what you're hearing from team biden right now. >> reporter: there are a number of battleground states that president biden carried four years ago where he's playing frankly defense in 2024. think of michigan where the war in gaza has really cost some votes for the president among key demographics. north carolina on the other hand, a state that president biden only narrowly lost four years ago, one percentage point,

is the state the biden team feeling very bullish about. it has to do with whey the why the president is coming here today. to talk about healthcare. north carolina last december was able to expand medicare to low income residents. it was a top priority of the democratic governor here, roy cooper. it really is something the president will underscore is an important milestone as we mark the 14 years since the affordable care act was signed at a time when donald trump has been threatening to repeal the law. when you're thinking about healthcare, you're talking about reproductive healthcare. it's no accident this is coming the day we see the ban on mifepristone. north carolina, we should mention of the battleground states, is the only one which

since the dobbs decision has enacted an even stricter ban on abortion access since prior to roe versus wade. so it's all an important landscape when you add in addition to the economic accomplishments, the changing demographics. i should also mention, chris, the biden team has put its cards on the table. this is the eighth battleground state the president has traveled to since the state of the union address two weeks ago. in that same time, donald trump has only held one campaign style event. >> thank you so much, mike. i will let you get back to the president. in the meantime, simone, does the campaign have a right to be optimistic about north carolina given what we've seen in this poll? or are they being a little overly optimistic? >> well, i would like to draw people's attention back to sherry beasley. the democrat's nominee for a senate seat in the midterm elections and much was made

about the national democratic party not pumping enough. to be clear, the dscc, which is the entity that helps elect to the senate, because they didn't think she could win. former state supreme court justice who's been elected statewide before. and had democrats put money into that race, i think she would be the sitting senator right now. josh shine is running for governor in north carolina. in 2016 when hillary clinton lost, governor cooper won. so he has been able to weather many a storms and i think the biden harris campaign sees an opportunity in north carolina. the vice president herself has made upwards of 12 trips to north carolina over the past 12 weeks. >> she's building a brand that's different, i think, in many people's minds, a negative perception. seems like the more people get to know her, the more response

she's getting. >> i think so. i also think the administration has great things to bring. like this trip, they're talking healthcare. coming off of the heels of the anniversary of the affordable care act. a number of of the, joe biden, the btd, he's going to be there talking about that. one of the trips she came and expanded the pool of money for underserved businesses. this would benefit black businesses. she made that announcement on black wall street in durham. the campaign is making a targeted play for north carolina and they have to. the election was close last time and it's going to be close this time. 11,780 votes in georgia. if georgia or arizona drop off the map, let's just say, the biden -- biden doesn't win georgia, he's going to need north carolina. so there is some room to play here. >> all right. simone sanders, love that show. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. still ahead, how did it

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good to be back with you for this second hour and we are following two major stories this hour. the urgent search operation at the site of that baltimore bridge collapse. six people still unaccounted for. officials think they were all members of a construction crew sent plunging into the river. we'll get a live report. plus, may day. what we know about the warning sent from a cargo ship just moments before it slammed into the bridge and the power troubles just