one last piece of very exciting news to leave you with tonight. i'm going to do a livewith tonight. i will do a live event with joy read. you can come if you want to. my brilliant friend and colleague has an excellent new book out. it is called medgar and myrlie. joy read and i will do a live

event about the book in the apollo theater in new york city. i am so looking forward to this. if you want tickets, you can find out how to get them at msnbc.com. the link right there on your screen. i should tell you tomorrow, i will be on her show with her at 7:00 p.m. eastern here tomorrow night on msnbc to discuss many things, including thomas supreme court arguments on the big abortion case. that does it for us for now. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> it was bound to happen. i shouldn't seem surprised at all. remember several weeks ago when you were really sick, and you managed to come in the studio and anger one of our primary night coverages. i am not as sick as that tonight. but i am much more of a crybaby. for me, it is worse.

if this was any other day, this would have been a sick day. but after watching meet the press yesterday, i said, there are is -- are couple of things i need to say about that. >> i just have a cold. yeah, i tested for covid. it is so procure your -- procure ruler. then you just keep testing. when will it say i have it? or it is just the cold? and i'm just not man enough for a cold anymore, rachel. i'm just not. i'm telling you. this is difficult. >> i hope there are hybrid injuries -- hot beverages that are near you. next i have asked the guests to

give very long answers tonight. >> feel better, my friend. good luck. >> well, there was a time when sunday morning tv belonged to my friend, tim russell. >> if it is sunday, it is meet the press. >> the line between the press and political operatives has been crossed many times in both directions. lewis howell was in albany report a chain smoker who believed that the freshman state senator was destined for bigger things. he became not just senator roosevelt's re-election campaign manager, but the manager of franklin roosevelt's political career. there would have been no governor roosevelt. no president roosevelt without lewis how. tim got his start in politics the same way i did. working for senator daniel patrick -- >> in with us now, a man who

staff i ruled on a decade and a half ago. senator, welcome. >> now i am biased, but i think tim was the best moderator of meet the press, or any sunday show ever. no one ever questioned his fairness, objectivity, even when he was interviewing his former boss. and i have a feeling tim would have been cheering for his former protigi and friend, chuck todd yesterday. after the meet the press interview of the former republican party chair, mcdaniel, who was hired as a paid contributor to nbc news last week. >> i think our bosses are you and apology. i don't know what to believe. she is now a paid contributor by nbc news. i have no idea whether enter --

any answer she gave to you is because she didn't want to mess up her contract. she wants us to believe that she was speaking for the rnc. she has credibility issues that she still has to deal with. she is speaking for herself, or behalf of who is paying her. there are reasons why many are uncomfortable with this. many have been met with gas lighting, met with character assassination. >> she called me a propagandists , but i've been called worse. she was not hired by msnbc. i found out about it on friday when it was publicly announced. i stopped inviting trumbull liars like her on this program in 2016. i have never seen a satisfying successful interview of a trump liar. and i have never thought that i alone could crack the code of how to interview a trump liar.

they are fast and furious liars. i doubt that i could keep up. i would never interview mcdaniel as an expert on republican campaigns the way i frequently interview my longtime friend, stuart stevens, who ran her uncle, mitt romney's presidential campaign. viewing as a political analyst, but i do have a few questions for her whenever she might want to come on this program. and i'll make it easy for her. i will tell her the questions ahead of time. my first question would be, why did you change your name for donald trump? before trump ran for president, her name was romney mcdonald. how does that feel? to change her name to curry favor with the madman because he doesn't like your uncle? how did you explain that to your kids?

what lesson did your kids learn from that? and i mentioned her kids because she always mentions her kids. and that she is a mother, whenever she is speaking publicly. and then i would ask her about everything she did to try to help donald trump overthrow the election that she yesterday decided to say for the very first time three years later that joe biden won fair and square. there is an easy way to avoid the controversy. don't hire anyone close to the -- that is what happened to the nixon guy. only the nixon speechwriters who literally worked at a different building far away from the crimes were

welcome to cross the line. into the news media. when sapphire became a serious --, the year before the nixon crimes were fully exposed. a decade later, david went to the u.s. news & world report. -- where he was joined by his fellow nixon speechwriter, pat buchanan. and years later, joined by me. those guys knew nixon was a criminal, and they never, never defended nixon to me privately for even a minute. john dean, who was deeply involved in nixon's crimes and served time in prison emerged 35 years later as a tv commentator without being paid by any network. cnn gave john dean a paid position during the trump residency 45 years after the

nixon crimes for which he was convicted. none of the people who were involved in hiring ronna romney mcdonald, some of them were not born yet. they do not know the rule, the rule that the news media followed when hiring the very few people who wear hired from nixon world. no one close to the crimes. ronna romney mcdaniel was on the phone with donald trump while he was trying to illegally overturn the presidential election in michigan. that is close to the crimes. that is way too close to crimes. of all the crimes donald trump is charged with, the first

crime he allegedly had is the first one going to trial, april 15th. that is the date that the world will see a former president of the united states stand trial in the criminal case for the first time in history. donald trump faces 34 counts of falsifying business records for allegedly trying to hide hush money payments to star stormy daniels. it was a day that the judge chose quickly at the end of the hearing today after donald trump's criminal offense lawyers try to further delay the trial, falsely accusing prosecutors of withholding over 100,000 pages of potential evidence related to the witness, michael cohen, who made the actual payments for donald trump to stormy daniels. he ruled that, the attorney's office was not at fault for any delay in protection of the documents and schedule jury

selection to begin on april 15th. the washington post reports that trump seated at the defense table grimaced and shook his head as the judge ruled against them. uncharacteristically furious is how nbc news described the judge today as he -- the criminal defense lawyers for accusing the manhattan district attorney's office of misconduct, saying, quote, it is really disconcerting because the allegations that the defense make in all of your papers are of the people's misconduct is incredibly seriously, unbelievably serious. you are literally accusing the manhattan d.a.s office and people assigned to this case of engaging in prosecutorial misconduct and trying to make me complicit in it and you don't have a single site to support that position. that the people, by not obtaining the documentation from the u.s. attorney's office had somehow committed some sort of fraud upon the court.

where the trial begins, the jury will hear a version of what alvin bragg said when the indictment was announced almost a year ago. >> the defendant repeatedly made false statements on new york business records. he also caused others to make false statements. the defendant claimed he was paying michael: for legal services performed in 2017. this simply was not true. it was a false statement the defendant may month aftermath -- after month in 2017. april, may, june, and so on through the rest of the year. for 9 straight months, the defendant held documents in his hand containing this. why do we continue to make this statement?

covering up crimes related to the 2016 election. at its core, this case today with one of allegations like so many of our white-collar cases. allegations that someone lied again and again to protect their interest and evade the loss for which we are all held accountable. >> leading off our discussion is the former chief of the criminal division in the is eastern district. co-author of the new new york times -- indictments the historic charging documents with commentary. and also with us, the former acting -- and a professor at georgetown law. thank you this weekend. as expected, have the book at home. i had to put open to the ronna mcdaniel section of your book

to make sure i understood exactly where she was in the thick of all this. last week, when i asked you what am i looking for on monday? you just said two words, trial date. district attorney alan right got what he wanted. >> absolutely. there are number of things to take home from this. the judge is clearly no- nonsense. and is not going to put up with any more delay. the second has to do with defense counsel. obviously, defense counsel, that is a noble profession. anyone is entitled to great defense counsel representing him. remember, john adams, former president of the united states, he used to be a defense lawyer and represented british soldiers

at a time where was very unpopular. it is very important to remember that. there is a line you do not cross. it was repeatedly excoriated by the court. i would just read one passage that gives the audience one flavor. this is the judge to mr. blank. you are literally accusing the attorney's office and the people assigned to this case of engaging in misconduct. and trying to make me, that's the court, complacent and it. and you don't have a single site to support that decision. that is representative of how that went today. defense counsel really was underwhelming, and didn't do the job. you want defense

counsel to be as strong and as good as possible, just like the prosecution. you want them to be as good in the strongest possible. this is really not a good showing for donald trump and his counsel today. and how they handled the matter. >> and it turns out that chronologically in these crimes donald trump has been accused of, this is the very first one he committed. he committed this beginning in 2016 in the final weeks of the presidential campaign. he continued in the oval office, signing some of the hush money payments in the oval office. so we are beginning at the beginning. >> that is exactly right. it is so interesting that this, it is coming the same time as a separate intermediate court of appeals, reducing the amount of the bond that is due.

he has multiple things going on in new york itself, multiple different proceedings. all of these cases, it is like his life is one game of legal fraud, are something. i do think this was the first time that a former president has been indicted criminally. and now it is the first case that is going to go to trial. that is usually significant. other countries have faced south korea, france, brazil. we've got a person here in donald trump who is incapable of staying within the lines of the law for you and me. that is what this trial is about and the other trials. this is a really big deal. he was using michael: to payoff a porn star so that his story

wouldn't come out in the news. that is a serious issue. if it hadn't come out, it may be really would have swayed the election. >> and this one has a certain advantage of simplicity here. paying off the porn star while your presidential campaign is in crisis already. and because of a few things you've said about sexually assaulting women in the final weeks of her presidential campaign. it is also a story that the news media has told before. the idea of paying off a star, and i have to forge off the records of how i'm doing that. it seems to be a pretty simple evidence-based to deliver. >> you do not have to explain to the jury, which i and many others on my team had to explain.

this is one, as nicolle wallace likes to say. hey, you might want to try and blame other people. but there is only one person who is benefiting from the scheme. and that is donald trump. the idea that people are going to do this and engage in this without donald trump knowing he was the principal beneficiary. it is a pretty far-fetched idea. of course, we had to wait and see. i've been knocking todd blanche. the other attorney that donald trump has, susan necklace. she is a wonderful well- respected defense lawyer. she is somebody who i always want to wait and see. she will have something she is presenting to the jury. you know what the result is going to be. agreeing on paper, this is a clean, clean case.

>> even in a longer than expected version of this trial, it looks like we will have a verdict well before election day. >> it will take weeks. he would only try to delay in any way our shade that he can. and to delay the trial, that will not succeed. those kind of interlock appeals. they almost never work. there is almost nothing for him to grab on to. starting on april 15th, a couple weeks of jury selection. we will be talking about it until the end of may, june for a verdict. and then sentencing after that. these are felonies with up to

four years for each count. >> thank you both for starting off our discussions tonight. >> you're welcome. coming up, a new york appeals court today gave donald trump 10 days to come up with $175 million bond instead of the $464 million bond that had been due today to protect his assets while he is appealing the $464 million civil fraud trial against him. they did not reverse any of the findings in the case. they simply lowered the bond amount to a number donald trump might, or might not be able to have. that's next. the moment. now there's skyrizi, so you can show up with clearer skin... ...and show it off. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ with skyrizi, you could take each step

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donald trump has 10 days to secure the $175 million bond. new york attorney general letitia james filed this, saying donald trump is still facing accountable it for a staggering fraud. the court has already found that he engaged in years of fraud to falsely inflate his net worth and unjustly enriched himself, his family and his organization. the $464 million judgment, plus interest, against donald trump and other defendants still stands. if he loses his appeal, which is expected to be heard this fall, he would owe the full judgment amount, unless the appeals court reduces it. the appeals court rejected his request to block enforcement of the order for and monitor for donald trump's company, as well as allow for an independent director of compliance. joining our discussion now, the former assistant attorney general for new york state, and andrew wiseman is back with us.

it is very common, especially the bigger the judgment, the more likely it is, that the judgment will be reduced. this is an indication that possibly the appeals court might have in mind in the end, possibly a lower judgment? or not? >> yeah, we don't know the answer to that. this is where there are things that trump won on, things that trump lost on. certainly the schedule that was set for hearing the appeal. it is much faster than normal. the fact that there will be these two sort of overseers and monitors that are in place even during the appeal. that is obviously a good thing. but my disappointment in this ruling has nothing to do with the merits of it. it has to do with the fact that there was no explanation by the court as to why it was doing

what it was doing. i just think in this age, where we are seeing donald trump and so many other people attacked the judiciary, it is so in mid -- incumbent on them to give their reasoning. it is so easy for them to be cynical, and think of this as a sign of two systems of justice that he is getting unequal treatment. and it doesn't help when the judges are expelling out exactly why they are doing what they are doing. i just think especially giving his tack on it, that is not a good role model for the judges. and there are many, many who have done it better. this is by giving a more complete representation of why they are doing what they are doing. >> adam, given your experience,

what was your reaction? in the decision by the appeals court today? >> i had a couple of reactions. one, it certainly suggests there are some concern on the appellate court about the magnitude of the judgment. the $450 million might seem high. the law is clear that a bond must be posted in the amount of the judgment. and for the court to exercise its apparent -- and decrease the bond to just be concerned that it might be too hot. >> and adam, going forward, is there anything else you can read into? this decision, which andrew says does not include anything about their thinking. >> what andrew said, there's no explanation, there is no thinking express. all we are doing is reading -- here.

they limit the amount of time that he has to perfect the appeal. that is a fancy way of saying, file the appeal already. he already noticed the appeal. in the new york state court, you would have nine months to actually do the appeal. here, they sped it up. they said, if you want this smaller bond amount, if you want to have this, we want you to do the appeals when i later. sooner than later. it will be heard in early december. >> and angier, as we go forward with all of the trump litigation, this case will receive now from public view. and then of course, as we get to the supreme court dealing with that issue and that immunity, this case will kind of move to the side while those things take center stage.

>> that is correct with one copy. there will be these two monitors . they continue the monitor. i would not totally closed the door to whether they find more financial shenanigans. i generally agree with you. but, you know, that is generally someone's worst nightmare. having two independent people overseeing this. given that you will still have to have a bond of 175 million, and you will have these payments coming out, i will still keep an eye out for whether you will hear more about this case from those two people. >> adam, it is not yet certain that donald trump could make the 175 million. >> that's right. he just put out $100 million on the carol defamation case just a couple weeks ago.

it is not clear that he actually has $175 million to have this bond. he says he does. he says it is unclear. and at worse, the respected disclosure of his actual assets. >> adam pollick and andrew wissemann , thank you so much for joining our discussions. coming up, donald trump began his day comparing himself to jesus christ, and then spent the day in a criminal courtroom what he world -- where he will pay off a trial for hush money to a porn star, something jesus never did. that's next. that's next. idues. and it's gentle on her skin. tide free & gentle is epa safer choice certified. it's got to be tide. ( ♪ ♪ )

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week, donald trump found out that his first criminal trial will begin on april 15th and that he has 10 days to post a bond of $175 million to protect his assets during his appeal of the $464 million judgment against him for business fraud. today, the biden harris campaign described donald trump's situation this way. " donald trump is weak and desperate, both as a man and a presidential candidate. he spent the weekend golfing, the morning comparing himself to jesus, and the afternoon lying about having money he definitely doesn't have. his campaign can't raise money. he is uninterested in campaigning outside of his country club. and every time he opens his mouth, he pushes moderate and suburban voters away with his dangerous agenda. america deserves better than a feeble, confused, and tired donald trump."

and speaking of feeble and confused, -- >> i will bring crime back to law and order. we will get those words back. you can have an election in the middle of a political season. >> the senior editor for bloomberg opinion, the author of -- and host of the bloomberg podcast crash course. tim o'brien knows that, yes, indeed, you actually can have an election in the middle of a political season. he said that a few times. and then, the nicely phrased -- let's see. we will bring crime back to law and order. tim, what is happening to his mind? you have stated him a long time. you've spent time with them back when you were writing about him before he sued you

because you told the truth about the rich -- how richie wasn't. >> this will be a very long election season. it will be eight months. we are in the very early stages of it. donald trump is already demonstrating that he can't handle the pressure. of course he had a busy day today. he had to appear in court to deal with the fact that he is both massive criminal and civil litigation at his doorstep. you know, beyond the pressure of the day, i think he is already demonstrating that he will have a very hard time dealing with the pressure of the weeks, and the months, as this campaign rose on. i think for voters watching him , day after day on camera, and basically planting his own foot in his mouth day after day on camera, they will have to ask themselves whether or not this is someone who can sit in the oval office and should have his finger on the nuclear button, and should be overseen the most dynamic economy on the planet, and trying to hail -- gila

country -- heal a country. this is a democrat facing a republican. an election in which joe biden, a senior public servant who is rational, well-meaning, and surrounded by a group of very talented and capable advisers. he is facing off against donald trump, who is an unhinged narcissist, who has no interest in anything other than himself, and is willing to torch the constitution to get there. and one of his comments today is evidence of that that we are going to bring crime back to law and order. i'm certain he didn't mean to say that, but at the same time, it is exactly what he's done. he has spent the last several years trying to dig out at the foundation of the rule of law, and civic society, and civil

society. i think anyone watching him today, i think also just has to get ready not to become -- to this. it will be really easy to tune him out. we will get more of it week after week. if we don't see it for what it is and hold him accountable for it, then we are getting up on the wrong side of the stick on this. >> tim, quickly before you go, will donald trump be able to come up with $175 million in the next 10 days? >> i think he probably will, lawrence. but it will tie him up. it will affect his business. he already have to put a lot of money in the e. jean carroll case. it still is a substantial amount of money. it will be interesting to see where he sources the money. we should see if he gets it from abroad. or if he gets his farm various firms. that was a body blow in his family's ability to do business in new

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abstaining. >> in favor of the resolution in document s-2024. please raise their hand. those against? abstention? the result is as follows, 14 votes in favor, zero votes against, one abstention. >> [ applause ] >> it has been adopted.

>> this is the first time the united states has not vetoed a security council cease-fire resolution. >> today, as you all know, we abstained on a un security council resolution calling for a cease-fire in gaza until the end of ramadan and release of all hostages. our vote does not, i repeat, does not represent a shift in our policy. we've been very clear, we've been very consistent in our support for a cease-fire as part of a hostage deal. that is how the hostage deal was structured, and the resolution acknowledges the ongoing talks. we want to get to a place where we can support this resolution. but because the final text does not have key language that we think is essential, such as condemning hamas, we could and supported. >> as the united states allowed the resolution to pass, israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu said he will

not be sitting in delegation this week to discuss -- of rafah. he met with secretary of state anthony blinken and the national security adviser, jake sullivan. joining us now, richard stangl, former -- of the obama ministration. he is an msnbc analyst. and peter, professor of journalism and political science at the university of new york. he is also a msnbc political analyst. let's listen to what the u.n. ambassador said about this today. >> colleagues, we appreciated the willingness of members of this council to take some of our edits and approve on this. still, certain key edits were ignored, including our request to add a combination of -- condemnation of hamas. and we do not agree with everything in the resolution. for that reason, we were unfortunately not able to vote yes. however, as i've said before,

we fully support some of the critical objectives in this resolution. and we believe it was important for the council to speak out. >> how big of a departure was this for the united states today? >> i think it is a big departure, lawrence. it is a shot across. it is a way of saying, look, our patient isn't endless. and by the way, his reaction was petulant by not sending folks here. i think it is a prelude to even the consideration of the u.s. making the break with israel. we don't want to make a break with israel. we still want to keep our leverage. this is about as far as we can go. >> peter, we have all for our lifetimes watched the american u.n. ambassador stand for and beside israel in the united nations in moments like these. what was your reaction to what

we saw today? >> i think the biden administration is tiptoeing towards the kinds of actions that it would generally need to take in order to try to stop the carnage, the destruction of gaza. what it will take will be for the united states to say to israel that we would no longer provide military aid for this war, and would no longer provide diplomatic immunity for israel and in international forms. the by the ministration is not willing to take those steps, i think benjamin netanyahu will continue to defy the united states. we are seeing for the first time, this really is a historic shift. those further steps, the serious use of u.s. leverage is on the table. >> let's listen to what donald trump says about this. >> you have to finish up your war. you have to finish it up. you have to get it done.

i'm sure you would do that. and we have to get to peace. you can have this going on. and i will say, israel has to be very careful. you are losing a lot of the world, you are losing a lot of support. you have to finish up, get the job done. you have to get on to peace, on to a normal life for israel, and for everybody else. >> richard stengel, finish up, get the job done. how would you expect the israeli government to interpret that? >> well, i think they would interpret it as support for the invasion of rafah, which the administration is very dubious about. i will switch keys for second, lawrence. as you know, i am the co-chair of the board of care, the humanitarian organization. we have been in gaza and the west bank for decades and decades, supplying feed. we've never seen anything like the approach to famine that is happening in gaza now.

and in northern gaza. 83% of the people are suffering from severe malnutrition. the whole point of a cease- fire, even one just to be temporary during the month of ramadan, is to get food into gaza. that is a desperate need. the administration knows that. that is why they abstained on this ruling today. >> peter beinart, the trump position of, you've got to finish up and get the job done. what does that mean to you? >> to me, this is based on a lie, the idea that israel can go in and finish up a job. it sounds familiar to americans, doesn't it? we finished the job when we overthrew the taliban, this is a lie. yes. hamas will no longer be in power. but, israel is going to be there fighting an insurgency for a long, long time. whether it calls itself hamas or something else. as we know, every one of those people in israel -- the 30,000 or more, they will have

relatives who are seeking revenge. the idea that they would just go into rafah and end this, it is the fallacy we had when we went into iraq and afghanistan. only a solution that provides palestinians a path to freedom, and ultimately, create safety for israeli and palestinian. -- has no interest in that whatsoever. >> peter beinart and richard stengel, thank you both very much for joining our discussion tonight. thank you. we will be right back. back. a once—daily pill. when symptoms tried to take control, i got rapid relief... and reduced fatigue with rinvoq. check. when flares kept trying to slow me down... i got lasting steroid—free remission... with rinvoq. check. and when my doctor saw damage,... rinvoq helped visibly reduce damage of the intestinal lining. check. for both uc and crohn's: rapid symptom relief... lasting steroid—free remission... and visibly reduced damage.

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