change themselves. they've had a lot of experience of outside intervention in their country that hasn't worked well for them, so they're hoping there will be change and with this new government, possibly coming in soon, that that will be the fresh start they so desperately need. >> they need that desperately, outside intervention has literally never worked for that country. great to see you, my friend, thank you so much, ellison barber in the dominican republic. thank you for watching, catch me back your neck saturday and sunday morning from 10:00 to noon eastern, stay right where you are, inside with jen psaki begins right now. faces a cash crunch, republican donors are on the hook for his legal bills, whether they know it or not. >> speaker emerita nancy pelosi has never held back her feelings, and something tells

me she'll have a lot to say. one more day to come up with half $1 billion, trump could see his property seized by the attorney general letitia james. we will preview awhat could happen, next. after a deadly isis terror attack, vladimir putin attempts to pin the blame on ukraine. the ambassadors here to discuss what it could mean for the war. kara swisher has covered elon musk and others for two decades in a pulling punches in her new book. one thing that has become abundantly clear is that the republican nominee who is also a self proclaimed billionaire, that's an important part, donald trump has a cash problem and a big one. the new federal campaign filings show the biden campaign has $77 million cash on hand while trump has 33 million. that's less than half. you don't have to be a

mathematician. trump has a mountain of legal expenses he will need to pay due to criminal indictments on multiple civil lawsuits. he is using his campaign apparatus, this is the crazy part, and supporters donations to pay for his presidential run as well as his legal bills. just this morning i "meet the press", former rnc chair ronna mcdaniel said it's fine if trump asks donors to pay his legal bills. as long as the donors know it's what they're doing. i'm not sure about that, but also, do the donors know that's what they're doing? just last year, his packed spent roughly $50 million in legal expenses. a chunk of that came from small dollar donors. people who donated not to the pact but to the trump campaign, that means people who might've thought, hey, i'll give five dollars or $10 to pay for rallies or staffers or advertising, the normal campaign stop they were

actually paying for his legal expenses. just as an example, 10% of donations made online to the trump campaign are automatically directed to the state of america packed. $0.10 of every dollar he has received from supporters is going to a packed that is used to pay for his personal lawyers. if that doesn't sound bad enough, and that's bad enough, we are also learning his newly formed joint fundraising agreement with the republican national committee, now that he's a nominee, prioritize paying his legal bills above typical investments like down ballot races and state party programs. that money will first go to the trump campaign, then once a donor hits their contribution limit, the rest of the money will go to trump's legal fund and get a load of this, only once a donor has maxed those two entities including his legal fund will the money go to the republican national committee and state parties. it's all pretty telling about

trump's priorities. he is literally making sure donations go to his legal bills before it goes to the republican party. a pays for things and most election years like outreach efforts, as resources for down ballot races, will his campaign donors are financing his legal defense, he is facing a major financial crunch thanks to the civil judgments against him. tomorrow is the deadline. monday. for trump to secure a bond for the more than $450 million he votes in the next civil fraud case. otherwise, new york attorney general letitia james will start seizing his property. she's made that crystal clear. just a recap. it's quite a cash crunch. massive legal bills, big ones, monumental civil fines not to mention his campaign's fundraising disadvantage. another important contextual thing to know is however trump comes up with all this money, the last place he wants it to come from his his own pockets because if there's one thing

that donald trump loves, it's other people's money. don't just take my word for it. listen to him. >> it is called the opm theory of money. it's called other people's money. >> it's called opm. i do that all the time. other people's money. nothing like doing things with other people's money. >> i love other people's money. >> so, opm. this is not new. this is the same grip he has run again and again and again using other people's money for his own benefit. while often leaving his donors high and dry. just ask the stockholders of his atlantic city casinos are the students of trump university or anyone who donated to his now defunct charitable foundation. profiting off false promises and giving nothing in return. it is with donald trump is doing right now. joining me is how speaker emerita nancy pelosi.

it's great to see you. thank you for taking the time. there's so much i want to talk to you about. let's start where i ended. you've been ahead of the curve that trump is a con man for a long time. the fact they want to pay his own legal bills despite claiming he is a billionaire feels like it's an in-your-face example. i know your concern is not the republican donors, but are they being duped? >> well, i think it's very clear that trump is a grifter. that is the way it is. integrity which is something we all want to always deepen in politics and government has flown the coop with him. these people who are so happy to give him money to pay his legal fees should be told that is where they are spending money. you know what? it is sunday morning. let's talk about what means something in people's lives.

if you want to make a contrast between trump and biden, president biden has 1.5 million donors under $200. so much of his campaign is fueled at the grassroots of those who believe in him because he have made their lives better. one of the things we are doing this weekend, we started thursday actually, which was gavel day. the day we gobbled down the affordable care act, and yesterday with president obama and president biden in the forefront, i joined them to celebrate the signing of the bill. what is happening now, more important than grifter trump and his exploiting the hopes of people with other people's money, rather than that, what the republicans are doing now is putting forth a budget. a parchment -- but it should be a statement of national values. it should be reflected in how we allocate resources.

in their budget conference committee or what they call it, they have taken away the $35 insulin that was reduced from 500, $600 and taking away the secretary to negotiate for lower prescription drug prices. the list goes on and on and why? to give tax breaks to their biggest, richest and biggest corporations in america. we have important work to do, but this weekend, we are celebrating the affordable care act were tens of millions of people got access to health care. having a pre-existing condition was no longer an obstacle to getting care. being a woman was no longer a pre-existing condition. young people can stay on their parents plan until 2026 -- until 26. they can continue their education or start a business. if they want an internship that may not have health care, but

they can advance them to their career goals. there is so much positive contrast between these two. our health care plan and their budget, the honesty and integrity of a system that's called democracy. the rip off of the grifter, donald trump. my frustration with this is spends so much time on him but we have to get to the kitchen table issues of people whether it's a woman's right to choose. raising the minimum wage. whether talking about access to quality health guare -- care or clean air and clean water, environmental justice. let's talk about what it means to people in their lives to have grifter or have a patriot as president of the united states. >> i completely agree. as you might agree, it's important for people to know about the grifter and what he's up to. let's talk about the 14th

anniversary of the affordable care act. it would not be in existence without your role, i can confirm that. i was in the obama administration at the time, and one of the things people may take for granted is it remains at risk. trump has been clear. he would love to do away with it and the biden campaign is a new ad reminding people of this risk. let's play it and i want to talk to you on the other side. >> obamacare is a disaster. what i would like to do is totally kill it. >> is that sad and it's fact, if trump succeeds, 45 million people could lose health care. the other thing is six in 10 have a favorable view of the affordable care act. isn't overturning it, bad policy, but is not bad politics? >> let me just say for a person

who rarely has any affinity for the truth, this is one of the times where donald trump is telling the truth. he wants to terminate the affordable care act. in his crude mouth he said obamacare sucks. it does not. it cures. he is making it clear. just to remind when we won the election in 2018 and took back the house and saved our country from him, people said to me, aren't you lucky that health care became such an important part of the campaign? i said we were not lucky. we made our own luck. 10,000 events at which people told their stories. told their stories. thousands more people told their stories, and that's how we won back the house in 2010. as you indicated, the affordable care act, people understand what it means in their lives and it's very

important. that is what's on the ballot. that say freedom issue. the freedom to have good health and to have financial help and not be subject to bankruptcy because you cannot pay your bills. believe him when he says that. that's one of the only truths i have heard him say. >> absolutely. >> your health care is on the table. believe him when he says he's proud of taking a woman's right to choose, roe v. wade, and how proud he is of that. your personal decision-making. >> he is telling what he will do. before i let you go, going among house republicans right now, speaking of the house, he would need them to get rid of the affordable care act. marjorie taylor greene filed -- in response to the government keeping the government open. there been two more house republicans who announce their

leaving early and it feels chaotic and crazy. is it possible because after mike gallagher leaves there will be a margin of one. could you see a scenario where democrats take the majority of them before election day because it's so dysfunctional? >> i told that to hakeem jeffries when he became our leader and we are proud of him and the whole leadership team. anyone could be speaker. that could happen. the fact is, the disrespect for the institution with these motions to vacate, the disrespect for the republicans with the departure of these republicans takes them to a precarious place. i remind that i at the end only had a margin of two because of one thing and another. when we had the majority and we still got our work done. we passed a historic agenda

under the leadership of president biden and working with the house and senate in a, shall we say, respectful collaborative way. just because you have a small margin doesn't mean you can't get the job done, but you have to have unity to do it. diversity is our strength. unity is our power and that's how we got our work done. the affordable care act, under the leadership, inspirational leadership of president obama, we were able to get this done. for hundreds of years presidents have tried to do that. the courage of the house democrats and the strength of harry reid in the senate, and then under joe biden to improve it, to have many more people ensure -- insured at lower cost, he has been great. we have to finish the job and that's why this election is so important.

if what's his name wants to use his donors money to pay his legal fees, that's his problem. our problem is he wants to have a budget that gives tax breaks to the wealthiest people at the expense of the well-being of america's working families. >> unquestionably. what a perfect place to end. speaker mike johnson it is not speaker emerita nancy pelosi. thank you so much for always joining us and taking the time this morning. coming up next,'s russia warns the victim of the terror attack. putin is -- ukraine. the former ambassador to russia will discuss the implications of the attack after this quick break. break.

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american officials have confirmed the terrorist group isis-k is responsible for the attack that killed 133 at a popular concert hall outside moscow.

it's important to note that in advance of that attack, the united states did privately warn russian officials that one was coming, and yet, the warnings were dismissed by putin and other pro-kremlin voices as an attempt to scare russians. less than 24 hours after the attack, putin gave a national address claiming without evidence that the perpetrators had tried to escape into ukraine with help from the ukrainian side. notably, he did not mention isis once. penn state news broadcasters in russia have followed suit, largely ignoring or casting doubt on the role of isis. instead suggesting ukraine and supporters in the west are responsible. we've seen a version of this before, unfortunately. joining is a former u.s. ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul, knows a lot about the thinking. i'm grateful for your taking the time. i do not want to over create this but i want to talk about it. he didn't mention isis-k. what did you make of his initial

response. what was a horrific attack were over 100 lives were lost. >> it was a horrific attack and i want to express my condolences to all family and friends who lost loved ones. terrorism is never justified and this was a horrific attack. the biggest one in 20 years in russia. the thing that was first streaking about putin's reaction was how long it took. he did not, right away. he took time to figure out the way they wanted to spin it. when he did, make his statement, he did not mention isis-k or talk about that particular organization which they have had troubles with a long time. it would've been easy to explain to the russian people by that kind of terrorist group would've attacked them. instead, this window was open for them to leave to ukraine. think about how strange that is.

for a window to be open and ukraine for them to pass. that means a window would've been open to the russia military forces for them to pass and subsequently, there is the echo chamber to blame ukraine. i find this absolutely disgusting. to use an event like this to politicize it is truly disgusting. >> it is absolutely disgusting, and it's important to talk about. it's probably not the end. do you expect him and other pro- kremlin voices, russian media is doing it, to escalate this ukraine blame game. is that what you anticipate ahead? >> yes. you know what else is happening? tragically, and social media, americans are echoing this propaganda, this disinformation. they feed it in and that kicks around, and without any data whatsoever, and i will not name them now, social media

influencers are repeating this lie and that's exactly what putin wants to have happen. it comes against the background -- i'm glad you mention the american warning. i think a lot of people might be surprised that even during these adversarial times between the united states and russia, the intelligence channel keeps open. we have a common interest in fighting terrorism. second, the state department where i used to work, issued a public warning. that say high bar. you don't just do that on-the- fly at some meeting at the embassy. that means there was credible information. we were trying to help russia, and instead, putin blamed us and that may be part of the reason why he's bending over backwards to blame ukraine and by implication, you are blaming the west and the united states. >> that's an important point.

i spent time at the state department and its a high bar and important for people to know that. i'm going to ask a hard question, the domestic impact. this was a terrorist attack on russian soil. putin as a person keeping the country safe, maybe is why he's doing what he's doing on ukraine, but it will impact him at all within his domestic politics? >> probably not. there is a rally around the flag affect going on in russia. state media is saying they. there's an undercurrent. another store semi social media channels which is to say, he is supposed to defend us and you're not. you are calling lgbtq activists and calling them terrorists. it's a counter narrative, a minority narrative, but it will linger and it's already lingering on social media channels and independent media

channels and it's a problem for the vladimir putin. >> thank you ambassador michael mcfaul. what a tragic event and our thoughts go out to those who have lost loved ones. next, donald trump is staring down a deadline to put up a bond of half $1 billion. if it doesn't happen, attorney general letitia james could start seizing his assets and has made it clear she plans on a. i have a lot of questions as i'm sure you do, coming up after this break. break. you! your business bank account with quickbooks money now earns 5% apy. (♪♪) that's how you business differently. intuit quickbooks. to a child, this is what conflict looks like. children in ukraine are caught in the crossfire of war, forced to flee their homes. a steady stream of refugees has been coming across all day.

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penalty by tomorrow, letitia james could start seizing his assets and she made it clear she plans to do that. he has been posting on truth social at all hours day and night. assuring everyone he has almost $500 million in cash. i have questions on how this will play out tomorrow and over the coming weeks and i'm sure you do to. it's a perfect day to talk to our in-house law firm, the forming u.s. solicitor general and andrew weissmann the former counsel at the fbi and senior member of robert mueller's team and the co-author of a new book that you may have heard or maybe purchased called the trump indictments, the historic charging documents with commentary. lots to get to. james has filed the judgment and was chester county that makes people excited where trump has two properties. does this mean the seizures are imminent and what else do you expect to see tomorrow if trump does not deliver on the money

he owes? >> there's a reason why think some are calling donald trump done poor leone. he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. his lawyers say he cannot get the money in time and he's getting on social -- truth social and saying he can. these things don't make much sense together. it's a microcosm of the weight, what got him in trouble in the first place and lying about his assets and his doing the same thing over the last week. this is not a immediate process where tish james will walk into 40 wall street on tuesday and change the locks or something. the seizure process takes a while. trump owns all this with a web of llcs but what i expect to happen as millions filed another properties. she has filed with westchester properties. a process to begin and i

suspect she will file bank levies to take his bank money. that can occur more quickly. what will trump do? he will try to go to the new york appeals court to stop this. i don't expect that to succeed but he will try. he could file a federal lawsuit that will go nowhere fast. >> a lot to watch tomorrow. andrew, as i was saying and neil alluded to, i'm so sorry, neil alluded to, trump has been posting on truth social all hours of the day about how he has almost $500 million. he has the money in cash which undercuts ostler's claim that he cannot comply with the judgment. there's lots of ways to get a bond, to pay this, but is there any way he would not have to fork over that money if he actually had it? >> he does have a pending

motion in court where the court could lower the bond amount. if you have your lawyers and court saying you need to do that because i cannot pay, but you are saying you can pay publicly, just imagine if you're the judge what you were going to do. you are not going to say maybe i should lower this because he can't pay when he's publicly saying the opposite of what his workers would say. and the other person, there would be sanctions. one other thing that tish james can do is she can attach incoming money to donald trump. a lot of what he has his rental income, royalty income. those income streams, and if you think about that as a human body -- >> chic and sees that? >> she can take it immediately so those income streams, instead of going to donald trump, those go to the new york fisc which is what she represents. that's like taking the arteries

and clogging them off so there is no money flow into the trump organization. instead, all of that money that he says is other people's money coming from his licensing deals, all of that gets restrained and can go to pay off the judgment. that's money that may be necessary for donald trump in order to continue sort of leveraging all of his other assets. he has these outstanding loans, and that could happen quickly. >> he has a cash problem and that's interesting. one thing we almost forget even though there's so much to watches the first criminal trial was supposed to start tomorrow. it was postponed because they gave a new pile of evidence to trump's teams weeks before the trial was supposed to start. i don't know if you can answer why they waited so long, we

could learn a new trial date. how long do you expect this to be pushed out? mid-april? >> i don't think they need long. there was a huge number of documents, maybe 100,000, that work turned over and most were irrelevant according to the prosecution's filings. 100 pages is all it was. i do not expect a long delay. trump's lawyers are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and i suspect we will see a trial beginning in about a month by the manhattan district attorney, and it's a criminal trial against donald trump for the payments to stormy daniels. >> we will go to florida. andrew, there's a question about he mishandled classified documents. the judge presiding over this case flummoxed judges when she gave both sides two weeks to craft jury instructions around competing interpretations of the

presidential records act. explain why that is so peculiar and tell -- what does it tell us about where she stands right now? >> the backdrop is she has been reversed twice by the 11th circuit for getting the lore wrong and consistently, the law wrong in favor of donald trump. leaving the side she's asking for jury instructions, but she has not set the new trial date. neil can attest that that's very unusual to be asked about formulating jury instructions when you don't even have a trial date. leaving the timing aside, her two options that she proposed were both legally wrong. they are both requested by donald trump at the hearing, and she said, okay, government, you have to give the two alternatives. both are legally wrong. he's charged with a criminal

statute in which she -- the government to brief the presidential records act statute which is a civil statute that has nothing to do with the criminal charges here. the main issue is for jack smith is where does he think he has the best shot to get to the 11th circuit? this cannot go on any longer. >> thank you, as always. we went quite around the world and i appreciate you joining us. elon musk thinks he's being serious about who he might endorse for president. he's not really fooling anyone. i will talk to the one and only kara swisher and she shares insight about him in the tech world. that's coming up after this break. break. able with fewer medicines. that's why he switched to dovato. dovato is a complete hiv treatment for some adults. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato.

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disingenuous statement about the 2024 election. >> you are not going to endorse a candidate? >> ma in the final stretch endorse a candidate, but i do not know yet. i want to make a considered decision before the election. if i do decide to endorse a candidate, i will explain why. >> come on. really? are we supposed to believe he doesn't know who he will support for president especially when a post things like this. there's either a red -- or america's doom. this administration is creating a national security threat from unpadded illegal immigrants. if democrats win, they will grant citizenship to all illegals and america will become a deep socialist state. we know what that echoes. scrolling through his feed, it's clear that he is obsessed with immigration like donald trump. like trump, he keeps pushing

this racist anti-semitic conspiracy theory that democrats are using immigration to engineer favorable electoral outcomes. not exactly. when he claims he does not know who he will support in the final stretch, it rings a bit hollow. no one has done more to support his conspiratorial on a platform then musk himself. kara swisher joining me now. she has podcasts and the author of a best-selling book called burn book. a tech love story. i have it here and i love it. i can hear your voice as i'm reading this book. it's very good. let me start with elon musk. you have covered him very much. over the years, one of the chapter starts with an email he won sent you with the subject line your n with the word i will not say. it's clear to me

he is a trump supporter. >> 100%. hello, he lied. that's what he does all the time. he does signaling and he thinks he's being subtle. he calls me karen which is in the best and so. i don't think he's trying hard. he does it late at night and up to who knows what. he is as subtle as a brick. >> why doesn't he say he supports trump? >> he likes to create drama like trump does. why are we asking? he is a businessperson so he made himself into a nonsensical figure that a lot of people care about, and he has a lot of money. trump would like to get his hands on his money and he likes to play games. >> truths social going public and trump gaining billions from

it. there have been ups and downs in the stock prices and there are restrictions. he cannot sell his shares for six months. >> maybe. >> people worry about it. is a complicated? >> these are meme stocks. games. went up and -- there will be short and people who love trump and they will buy you. there is no underpinnings here. it's a non--company. it loses money. it's not a business. >> it's a meme stock. the issue is when he can sell it which is six months, but the board can allow him to do so and the board has his son on it and devin nunes. then they could face lawsuits and if they sell, the stock and go down. it's the lawsuit waiting to happen. >> someone who covered taken people out there freaking out,

trump will pay his legal bills with this and have all this money. >> he could but then be subject to lawsuits. the sec has to be waiting for this to go down. >> you talk to a lot of people, but you know about a.i. and people who are freaked out about a.i. freaked out about the impact it could have in november. are you freaked out about that? >> it is stronger tools. i'm freaked out about what happened before. you have to think about what it can do. what if a.i. generated messages started to say one of the candidates was dead on election day and then it gets out. it takes a minute for real media to catch up. it's a minute we cannot afford or could shade videos. if republicans want to push that biden is old, they can make him look older or something. all kinds of tricks.

there are the robocalls which were a crude version of that. they could do all kinds of targeting that they were not able to do before and in scale and that's what scary. >> you didn't make me less freaked out. i want to read a passage from the book. i can hear your voice. you said there's no question the kind of wealth does inevitably warp tech titans as they navigate their frictionless world that allows him to go from private plane to armored car to a home office on an island in these overbroad poodles couldn't be luckier on this planet at this moment in time. they are swept up in a doom cycle of their own design painting themselves too often as victim. you are not somebody who holds back and i admire that. you talk about your own journey . what have you learned about how you approach journalism from how you have covered the tech industry? >> i've become a commentator. i spent a lot of time being a

reporter and you can't do good commentating without a basis in reporting and knowing what you are talking about. it's a disease of this era that everyone has an opinion. including these billionaires, the ukrainian fission of venture capitalists should not figure into public policy, in my opinion. i am trying to figure out what their agendas are almost constantly and articulate them. if you do a reported analysis, this is what they're doing in the impact, i think it's more powerful. the deleterious effect of too much wealth and power without accountability is something i spend a lot of time writing about and worrying about. if you're a reporter you have to hold power to account. that's critically important. >> and you do. i've been interviewed by you. this book is so good. thank you for joining me today. go buy it. next assistant with the

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having worked for two presidential campaigns through three election cycles and helped out with more than that, i can tell you there's nothing more exhausting than life in the campaign trail. that's the fictionalized backdrop of a streaming series, girls on the bus, which follows the lives of four female journalists as they hit the road to cover a presidential race. created and produced by amy chozick and the look at friendships and sometimes awkward dynamics that arise among the traveling press corps. >> surprise, surprise, no vegan options. good thing i role with the back

of. use my discount code for 10% off and -- my newsletter for more tips. >> what is she doing? >> she's paying her way through sub stack. behold, the brave new world of campaign reporting. >> making a discount code while promoting the socialist candidate? does she know anything about journalism? >> she has more followers than "the washington post". >> i sat down with the creator, my friend amy chozick, to talk about the inspiration behind it. >> amy chozick, it's good to see you. we have known each other a long time. we were sort of girls on the bus. >> we were. we both got engaged during the obama campaign. >> correct and we were waiting dress shopping at the same time. we were girls on the bus in which you were a hard-hitting journalist covering the campaign. i was a spokesperson.

what i found to be misunderstood is your living this circular life together because here on the bus. you're wearing old clothes. what i loved about the pilot is you start to talk about or show people how there is a bond among reporters. journalists, reporters trying to get the stories and make their careers, but they have a connection. that might be surprising for people. >> that's what drew us to the story. it's a chapter from my book, girls on the bus, and this female friendship, making friends with people you wouldn't have met and putting these types of women, you are forced together. eating the same sandwiches and staying at the same hilton garden. the character, the veteran, will never be friends with the influencer but for some together and it made for interesting storytelling and friendship. you have to give up your lives.

your living out of a bus and suitcase and neglecting your family. they are dumpster fires because the committing to the job and it creates journalists who are committed and go on to incredible things. >> another thing you experienced and it's portrayed in the show is there is this pressure, important one, for reporters to be completely unbiased. completely unbiased and that's important so there's credibility and trust. you show what's not always possible. how do you in this day and age if you're advising younger journalists, how do you strike that? in the age of trump, people running for office attacking the industry. >> this was one of the resonant themes we explore. i think we are living in a world where consumers are smart. do they believe that people don't bring personal bias into a story? i don't have the answer but our fictional characters are grappling with that.

is authenticity more important and objectivity? be honest going in a story and you can be hard on a candidate but the idea that we have no emotions is a myth. >> the title of the show was a play on the book. a chapter. a book about the 1972 campaign boys on the bus. a lot of things have changed for women in journalism and lots of industries. some things may have not which is important for people to understand. how has it changed it or not? >> i love that book but the only women in it are making up meatloaf to welcome their great men back on the campaign trail. something that's not said in the show is by the time women and minorities are in these, they are on the decline. drinking with the candidates and they had so much access and news organizations were economically healthy. you flashforward today and it's predominantly women covering the campaigns.

they have to file constantly a feat the web. the candidate hardly speaks to you and there's a lot of differences. the girls on the bus, they aspire to be like the boys. the lead character aspires to be one of these great men and she realizes girls cannot be like them but they have to be better. >> thank you to amy chozick for spending time with be talking about her new show, the girls on the bus is streaming on max. we will be back with a preview of who will be joining me tonight. tonight. ava: i was just feeling sick. and it was the worst day. mom was crying.

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that does it for me. we have exciting gas joining us tomorrow night including former senator al franken. tune in tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern. don't miss the sunday show with jonathan cape are. he will interview former national security adviser susan rice tonight at 6:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. stay where you are because there's more news coming up on msnbc. a very good day to all of you. welcome to alex witt reports. the clock ticking for donald trump and the nearly $450 million bond the -- judgment