good morning. it is saturday, march 23rd. we have alecia menendez in new york. if you are just getting up with us conger congress avoided a partial government shutdown overnight but this could be the start of even bigger problems for speaker mike johnson and his republican majority. the former rudy giuliani

associate that blew a russia sized hole into the republican impeachment dreams but we will talk to lev parnas about his testimony on capitol hill. >> and michael cohen is with us as his former boss tries to scrape together $354 million all before monday. we have a lot to talk about. welcome to "the weekend." congress managed to avoid a shutdown at about 2:00 a.m. eastern time passing a bill that funds the government through the end of september. republicans left for a two week recess without delivering crucial aid to ukraine in israel, as well as taiwan. overnight, russian authorities detained 11 people following a terror attack at a concert venue outside moscow. the russian government says at least 115 people are dead after

several gunmen opened fire on the crowd. there were fears moscow would blame ukraine for the attack but the group isis claimed responsibility in a post on telegram. nbc news has not verified the claim and isis did not provide proof of the attack. joining us in new york is the ranking member of the house foreign affairs committee. >> congressman, so good to have you on the program. have you received a briefing on what has transpired in russia? >> not yet. we are awaiting that. isis has taken the responsibility of causing that grave act in russia. but i have not had any confirmation of that nature and i hope to have something. >> to talk about that, how does that complicate the dynamic in the region? >> you see russia's aggression and ukraine. there is no question about that. it also shows that isis is

alive and trying to do certain things in the region. i think we need to find out more. we need to find out more so we can understand the steps that took place, whether or not there were reports out that russia was warned to. >> two beaks go, you had the u.s. embassy putting out a bulletin saying that this was likely to happen. >> yes. and it is a lot to unpack. i want to reserve my comments until i get the briefing necessary so i can get a full understanding of what took place and why it took place and who did it. i will reserve my comments until then. >> congressman, we have been up for an hour at this point talking about the implications of the lack of funding to ukraine. obviously, a government shutdown was averted overnight.

but ukraine aid and i would also offer aid to israel and taiwan, was not included in the package. where do negotiations on that stand right now? >> you are absolutely right. i think it is tragic that we are now on recess and no aid going to ukraine. israel, humanitarian aid, as well as taiwan. it is dangerous. we just saw the other day where russia attacked the energy sectors of ukraine. the greatest and most and the hardest type of bombing taking place thus far in the two years since the invasion. we have to get something done. there is dialogue and conversation going on. what has to happen in my opinion is a bill that passed the senate, talking about one package for ukraine, israel,

taiwan, humanitarian aid. and i might add that this was negotiated. basically something recommended by the republicans. i was at meetings, whether it was in the situation room or the white house or on the hill, where this is what they said they wanted. to not pass a bill where every day, every minute, every hour counts. it is tragic in my estimation. i would hope that the first thing the speaker takes up is this bill that was passed in the senate because let the house do its will. i believe that if you simply put the bill on the floor, over 300 members, and a bipartisan way, will pass it. and to hold it because donald trump and those that are part of the republican, russian caucus, basically what they are, it is tragic.

and boats against the leadership we should have and put forward as the united states congress. >> i would draw your attention to a tragedy closer to home. the ap headlined friday that as gangs rampaged through haiti's capital, more than 33,000 people have fled in 13 days. what is your assessment of haiti? what is the conversation in congress about haiti? because we ain't talking about haiti. and it is a real tragedy right now. and it is not focused seemingly on the house side, the senate side or the white house to publicly address the issue. what are you hearing? what are the feelings and thoughts about the situation with haiti right now? >> i'm glad you brought that up. that has been the focus for the last two weeks.

the tragedy taking place in haiti. and i can tell you that the administration has been focused on it also. the key here is we don't want, and the united states doesn't want to be put in the situation where we are leading the scenario and telling the haitian people what to do and what not to do. it has been the haitian community, the civic community, the religious community, the private sector, that has been leading, trying to put together government, or what we are calling is a transitional team of individuals to put haiti's future in front of it. we are hoping that, and -- they are negotiating. the gangs have taken over. they are bad guys and have been

moving on with no one holding them accountable and putting them in jail. i am hoping that we are able to get this counsel together and have the canyons come in. they have agreed to provide security and then give the haitian people room to have the dialogue and conversation without the gangs to come in and get things done. there is one thing being held up right now and i think it is important, what the united states needs to put in is $40 million being held up by the republicans in congress that needs to go to the canyons to provide the security necessary. and we have to get the republicans to release that 40 million as soon as the transitional council is set up so they can be secured and

protected. that is very important. we are leaning in and talking and that is the specific role the united states has to play, given they need to give the haitians the space to do what they need to do. it is tragic. if they don't do that, we are facing another medication crises of patience coming across the border -- migration of patients coming across the border. >> when people show up at the border, in reality, there are all of those factors talking about central america or haiti. we want to quickly ask you about israel. with secretary antony blinken in tel aviv. take a listen. >> we share israel patients goal of defeating hamas, which is responsible for the worst massacre of the jewish people since the holocaust and we share the goal of ensuring israel patients long-term security. as we said, a major military

ground operation in rafah is not the way to do it. >> growing frustration on the part of the administration with benjamin netanyahu's administration. do you since we are moving toward a resolution? >> i would certainly hope so and i think that the administration has been clear. number one, we know that hamas is a group that means no good for israel and no good for anyone in the middle east. i think hamas has also been harmful to the gulf countries. they would like to get rid of hamas. that has to happen. but it is how you do it and you can't have thousands of innocent lives lost in the process. so talking about and figuring out a way to get rid of hamas without the death of thousands of innocent, young individuals, mothers and fathers and aunts and uncles, is what needs to happen. what example? israel was able to go into a hospital and get several key

hamas individuals without one innocent person or doctor or anyone being killed. we have to look at that region, how that worked. but also, the end result. two state solution. the biden administration has been very strong on it. we cannot just go back to october 6. we have to change what has taken place for 75 years in the region. >> very quickly, another publication is the restrictions on funding. you have a lot of progressives upset about it. >> i'm upset about it. we to strike the steel in order to keep the government open. but we know that unrwa is the only one that has the ability to get the aid there. i had to make decisions because you give-and-take when you do these budgets. so we have been talking to a number of individuals and from other humanitarian organizations on how we can get

these sources to them and they might be able to get resources to unrwa or whoever else can get food and aid into the region. absolutely key and essential. >> congressman, we appreciate you being with us and waking up early to do so. present biden's campaign is working hard to win over nikki haley voters. and the unlikely man who delivered a dosage of reality to house republicans this week. former rudy giuliani associate lev parnas will join us. you are watching "the weekend." shingles is blisterih that can last for weeks. ahhh, there's nothing like a day out with friends. that's nice, but shingles doesn't care! 99% of adults 50 years or older already have the virus that causes shingles inside them, and it can reactivate at any time. a perfect day for a family outing! guess what? shingles doesn't care. but shingrix protects. only shingrix is proven over 90% effective.

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this morning, we are waiting for president buy and to sign the $1.2 trillion deal to fund the government. the legislation includes important provisions like funding for global health initiatives, childcare and cancer research. but the votes on capitol hill also expose division. that is in the republican caucus with marjorie taylor green filing a motion to vacate threatening speaker mike johnson's job. joining us as our nbc news correspondent and daily columnist hayes brown. a lot of excitement early in the morning. >> julie has been on the hill. she authored one of the nbc news pieces, breaking down what is in the bill. what stood out to most in this entire process? >> the fact that it is finally over. it has been a journey to get

here. it has been months. deadlines. just kicking the can down the road, which is typical. they essentially wanted to avoid the big spending package that congress muscles through every year. >> is like a mini bus. >> but they effectively got two versions. i'm not sure what they really accomplished here in terms of what hardliners wanted and that is probably why they are mad at speaker johnson and want to kick him out of office. they funded the government. there is a lot that didn't make it in. essentially both sides didn't get any major wins or losses but moderate wins and losses. they did have funding for the homeland security department which was a contentious issue. speaker johnson touted the new funding for border agents and the technology of the border and have a thousand additional beds. the biden administration has been asking about that for months. and they didn't get any policy changes which is also a win for democrats. >> funding for child care.

>> exactly. funding for child care too. and nothing for unrwa, which i know you were talking about with the congressman. >> i think for a lot of folks, the drama was marjorie taylor green and all that nonsense that sort of came into the conversation. i would like to play for you, a little bit of margie taylor green on the motion to vacate. >> it is more of a warning and a pink slip. i paid dues to my conference. i'm a member in good standing and i do not wish to inflict pain on our conference and throw the house in chaos. i support republicans holding a majority next conference. but we need a speaker of the house that knows how to negotiate, knows how to walk in the room, knows how to hold the line and knows how to defend america first. >> so she doesn't want to

inflict pain, nor does she want to create any conflict inside of her caucus. how crazy is that? that is all she has been about. so the frustration for the speaker is that, i can't get anything done when this right flank is constantly yelping and nipping and threatening. how does this now set up for the remainder of this time, before we get to the fall elections? and what impact is it having and said the caucus itself? >> i think marjorie taylor green seems to have amnesia for the last couple of months. it seems like she has forgotten what the process was like the last time they passed a motion to vacate. granted, that time, when they ousted kevin mccarthy, it was a few republicans and a few democrats that wound up voting to take the former speaker out of office. this time around, it feels like more of an uphill climb to get mike johnson out of the

speaker's chair. he has actually spoken to democrats and has done what he said he was going to do. he has tried to placate the right as much as possible. unlike mccarthy, he has been willing to say, this is the best we can do. this is how we will let the dice roll on that front. and he will be spending a lot of time for the rest couple of months trying to push this sort of agenda that republicans want to be able to run on even though they can't pass into law. so a lot of work between now and november to try to pass messaging bills that show the far right and the deep conservatives and mike johnson still wants to get these things done but it is the democrats blocking him. it is something he might be more able to do that mccarthy was. but this motion to vacate really comes down to whether democrats choose to back johnson or not and what johnson is willing to give them to make sure that they stay united with

him because now that the federal budget passed, no major policy issues will be able to come to the floor between now and november. johnson has to show democrats there is a reason to keep him in that seat. >> and you have representative mike gallagher saying, i'm out of here. we knew he was resigning and now he says he is resigning early. that is how insufferable it is to be a member of congress these days. i want to flip what hayes said on his head which is, yes, it may be that democrats need to save mike johnson's speakership if there is a motion to vacate. are there any republicans -- do you hear any chatter about willingness to vote for speaker jeffries? >> no. democratic leader hakeem jeffries got more votes in the multiple rounds of speaker elections that we had in the fall. and by the way, in january. and that was a funny process on

the floor. all democrats supported him unanimously when democrats were torn about who they wanted in the seat. i don't see that happening. it is interesting. we reported in january that not only do some democrats want to save speaker johnson, because let's face it, they don't want jim jordan in the sea or somebody they can trust even less than johnson. but in january, they floated this in front of president biden at the white house. that is the reporting we have had. and all of this hangs on ukraine aid. we have new reporting today were speaker johnson won't put this in a package on the floor and will consider his own ideas for foreign aid. even mitch mcconnell, and the senate, he doesn't have much power leverage in the house, is pushing on johnson to put this in a package on the floor. with threats coming from marjorie taylor greene, that gives johnson know leverage to do anything that conservatives want on ukraine aid and not even to tie it to the border. he will be pushed essentially. if democrats are going to save him, he has to give them something in return and that

could very well be aid to ukraine. >> we just heard from the ranking member of foreign affairs on how there is also money needed for helping haiti. so a lot of things congress needs to fund. before we go, i want to play senator cory booker last night or this morning, however you would like to parse it. the biden administration has confirmed a record number of judges with diverse backgrounds and a number of firsts. one of the firsts who would have been the first muslim american on this particular federal appeals court, the nation was in peril because of a number of attacks. and this is booker in defense of him and i would also argue celebration. >> no matter what happens to his nomination, this is a great american who should be proud of his work. we should celebrate him whether we vote for him or not. we should cherish a moment like this that makes history.

>> i have to wonder if the nomination -- this particular nominee, would be in danger because it was not an election year and if there were not so many things happening across the pond, particularly in the middle east when it comes to the war between israel and hamas and of politics is a feeling a lot of the vitriol and misinformation about this nominee. >> absolutely. i want to say, i love one cory booker gets on the pulpit. i love when he is on a mission to try to convince his colleagues. he does an amazingly. this is a matter of politics. the fact that there any democrats unwilling to support this nominee is about being afraid. afraid of the sort of backlash that, you supported this candidate for xyz when none of the rumors and vitriol being spread are actually true. it is really just a matter of

racism against a muslim candidate that we are seeing and that is something senator booker is standing up against. and i think all democrats in the senate should be willing to stand up against. >> i should have noted. two democrats. cortez and the west virginia senator who noted they are not supporting the nomination. hayes brown and julie circuit, thank you so much. coming up, rudy giuliani's former associate lev parnas is here to discuss his testimony from earlier this week. you are watching "the weekend." (jen) so we partner with verizon. their solution for us? a private 5g network. (ella) we now get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. our customers get what they want, when they want it. (jen) now we're even smarter and ready for what's next.

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i find zero evidence of the corruption and ukraine and the proceedings are predicated on false information spread by the criminal. >> that was former rudy giuliani associate lev parnas at a house oversight during this week sounding off against house republicans efforts to impeach president biden. good morning. lev parnas joins us now. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> let's pick up on the whole idea of naming names. you have made quite a firestorm in the last week or so. and i want to play your part in the oversight hearings. let's take a listen to what you had to say on capitol hill. >> rudy giuliani, on behalf of president trump test with a mission to travel the globe finding dirt on the biden so network scans but misinformation about them, thus securing the 2020 election for donald jay trump. i found zero evidence of the

biden at corruption and ukraine. the impeachment proceedings that bring us here are predicated on false information spread by the kremlin. >> and if we can play the other side. >> the hearings and names. that is the one i wanted to get to. to be have that? >> while we are finding that, what is the idea now that you have of going out and having this conversation where you are laying out clearly for folks the role of the individuals, the background conversations. why now? line not realtime? why not break away from the scene and say, this is not right. >> i did. >> i have been screaming at the top of my lungs to get the

truth out. then by the doj and the special prosecutor and then the republicans in the senate by not calling witnesses on the first impeachment. i did everything i could at the time. i was being discredited. they tried to call me a liar and a russian spy and all kinds of stuff. i did handle out of the 300 articles of impeachment against donald trump, i think 100 are evidence i had from the impeachment committee. >> the impeachment, to follow- up on that, in 2020, you are a key part of the impeachment proceedings. you set for an interview with the house of representatives. and i think that snowballed to the moment that we brought us to this week. as you can before the house oversight committee and named the names, as michael said. do you think your actions and ukraine contributed to this wavering support we are seeing

in the united states congress right now? you talked about the russian misinformation during your testimony this week and how all of these people knew where the information was coming from. and now, you have folks in the united states intelligence community saying there are members of congress, republican members of congress, who have been willing agents of russia because they are currently united states congress republicans particularly and congress, are not doing what needs to be done in terms of releasing aid needed to help ukraine. >> you have to understand, all of this, to make it simplified, is all about donald trump. reelecting him in 2024 again. all about that is what is going on with ukraine. the reason all of them are supporting russia is because russia is going to do everything possible to interfere in our to get donald trump into office. it is as simple as that.

it is upsetting to see that they are using the impeachment of u.s. president for political purposes. not to get to the bottom of the truth, if there was every crime committed. the objective was to get the truth out. to let the american public understand how deep the corruption goes. it doesn't just start with donald trump. you are going and congress. you have people in the doj picked think about the investigation and how bill barr chose does the doj chose to use information from a russian as it to impeach u.s. president, knowing all along that they had the evidence to debunk it prior to even making those statements. they chose to not question or talk about it but to just bury it. that is where the true investigation should be. we need to understand, how is it possible that a foreign government could infiltrate come not only the president, ex-

president or members of congress, senate, doj? how's that possible? the sad part, the crazy part is that it is one thing if we didn't know about it but it is in the open. they know it. look when rudy giuliani was -- listen, you are speaking to a russian asset. how do you know he is a russian asset? you might not be. are you kidding me? >> we have that sound that we were referencing of you speaking specifically about bill barr during the hearing. let's take a listen and we will talk on the other side. >> because the team investigations were centered around biden and ukraine, i was the designated polling person in every matter pursued. that is how i know with certainty that these biden stories were untrue then and are untrue now. congressman pete sessions and devin nunes, senator ron johnson and many others understood they were pushing a false narrative. the same goes for john solomon, sean hannity and marty media

personnel particularly at fox news who uses narrative to mani- pedi the public ahead of the 2020 elections. sadly, they are still doing this today as we approach the 2024 elections. >> it would require for republicans to stop doing that. >> i'm sorry. i did not hear? >> do you have this sense, you name a lot of names there and to your argument, have been carrying water for donald trump and by extension, for the kremlin. what will it take for that.? >> the very first thing come to get rid of donald trump, we need to reelect joe biden to office. that is the first thing and then we need to have our country wake up and realize that it is not just the presidential elections. we need to get all of these people out of congress and it is going to take time. that is the only way we are going to do this. getting out to vote and getting people who care about the country and not the kremlin

into office. unfortunately, until you do that or have committee hearings, let's get the truth out. let's put criminal referrals to people who deserve criminal referrals and really did something criminal and are doing it to this day. that is the crazy part. they are doing it right in the open for all of us to see. with donald trump right at the lead of it. making statements about nato that the republicans are not even -- just for the sake of not giving ukraine aid and making joe biden look bad. america has to realize. it is all about donald trump and the narcissism he has and has shown. it is not about the country. it is about him. >> i guess for me, some of the frustration is -- and i think for a lot of folks, all of this has been set in motion by yourself and rudy giuliani and others at the time, as you noted at the

beginning of the conversation. when you got caught, then the narratives change. what do we do? what does it take? at some point, do people realize they are hurting the country and putting us in a bad position and it takes getting caught by law enforcement in order for you to realize that? help me understand the conversion story because for me, when you are sitting there and you know you are talking to a russian asset and your working with an administration that is hand in glove with that asset and the russians, how come it doesn't kick in then wait a minute. i need a timeout. what are we doing here? help me understand that. >> that is a great question, michael. you have two types of people in the trump world. the leaders, the people brainwashing and doing it for

their own personal and financial gains like trump and rudy giuliani and then you have the regular mega followers, the cold environment where they are basically brainwashed. when you are in a cold, your mind thinks differently. that is why you don't think commonsense wise. you think what you want to think and what you want to believe and everything else doesn't matter. if you look at every person that has gotten out of that mega colt like me and u.n. and others, something had to happen in their life very gestic to wake up and leave. either get arrested or something personally happened to you, to realize what is going on. and it has to be something really bad to wake you up and shake you out. with me, as bad as it sounds, i did get arrested. i was able to get shocked out of the system and be able to reflect and understand and realize what i was doing. that is why now i'm trying to make amends for the mistakes and problems that i caused by doing it with this team. it is very difficult. and unfortunately, a lot of these people are not going to

realize it until it hits them personally in one way or another. >> a lesson learned. lev parnas. thank you for taking time. speaking of michael cohen, former trump attorney michael cohen will be here as his ex- boss tries to come up with $454 million before monday. you are watching "the weekend." be sure to follow our show on social media. our handle everywhere is at the weekend on msnbc. msnbc. can neuriva support your brain health? mary, janet, hey!!

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you know you are lying to the american people. and then the fbi shows up at your door and you are like, no. let me go tell it all now. that part for me is fascinating. and i thought that lev parnas putting it in the proper context saying come when you are in a cold, the blinders are on tight and you don't see her hear anything else until something shocks your system. >> and i guess getting arrested shocks your system. >> he called himself a blind follower and i think we often talk about -- talking about michael cohen, how donald trump is on the cusp of accountability in the number of cases that have to do specifically with the election of 2020. folks like lev parnas and folks like michael cohen and folks like jenna ellis down in georgia, being faced with potential jail time, a kind of shock them out of the system. and that is the only way that we know as much as we know

right now. i thought that -- he said he was a member of a cold. folks have said that for a while. but to hear that from somebody inside. >> especially set against the backdrop of the vibes of impeachment. next, a group of republicans think veterans should not have access to ivf. the debate the country needs to have on healthcare for the next election. nothing like enjoying a cold one while watching the game. who's winning? no idea. real milk. real delicious. and don't forget to try some delicious, creamy lactaid ice cream. what's that mabel? (mooo) wow, smart cow!

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this week was a true split screen for republican's mixed messaging on in vitro fertilization or ivf. at a senate judiciary committee, republican's downplayed the alabama supreme court decision treating embryos as children. at the same time, four house republicans signed a letter condemning the expansion of ivf for military veterans calling

ivf morally dubious. the president and ceo of the national council of negro women joins us now. >> so good to have you with us. i want you to take a listen to what senator lindsey graham had to say about the alabama legislature correcting the alabama supreme court patients decision. take a listen. >> the alabama decision i think has been corrected by the alabama legislature. there are a lot of questions around embryos and what status they should have. but i don't think you have any disagreement here on the committee that ivf treatments should be made available. i think they should have reasonable regulations in the area just like any other area of medicine. >> where senator lindsey grammys wrong, is legislature did not get to the underlying question of personhood. and there is great concern and

alabama that you will see providers leaving the state because it is incredibly legally complicating for them to provide care. it would seem to me that republicans have painted themselves into a corner. >> i think that is a serious question to grapple with. thank you for having me because this conversation is so personal for me. someone who has dealt with an issue of infertility. one of the things that many with the agenda are getting wrong, it is not just about providers leaving but patients leaving. looking for opportunities for care. this is an election conversation. it is a civic engagement conversation. and now it is in meddling in my personal business conversation. at the end of the day, the ability to create life with whatever method is available is

a profound individual right. and this is where many on the side of the conversation are getting it wrong. >> there are a lot of aspects to this conversation that have been taking place. and a big part of this is sort of the moral underpinning of ivf. and the abortion discussion at large. the obvious piece for me is fascinating because of what is involved and why people are so passionate, if you will, about the importance of this. as a roman catholic, i know in my church, we have very strong prohibition against ivf. and there is a lot of discussion right now among many congregations. you are an ordained minister. you are having these conversations. talk to us a little bit about how people are reconciling in their lives the reproductive freedom and the moral

consequences that their church or faith tradition is putting in front of them as well. >> a lot of it is around theology. personal theology has informed a lot of this. as someone who struggled with this myself and one of the things we have trained on, particularly in our church, is to have that decision about your life is your own. your own personal construct. however, it becomes government overreach when you begin to infiltrate your beliefs on to somebody else. i think that there are a lot of difficult conversations. the word abortion is one of those words that takes it another way. i'm trying to help people remove that conversation into healthcare access and personal autonomy. do i have the ability to make a decision for myself? and is a faith leader, if somebody told me i could not have my own faith, that would be infiltrating in my own personal decisions. it is the same context here. if someone is infiltrating my

ability legislatively, against my ability to have a child or not have a child or my ability to make a decision with my provider, my god or even my partner, that stands as unconstitutional and quite frankly, against the moral compass of our democracy our country was founded on choice and opportunity. >> really quick on that part, yes, the boston tea party. you know the next weight of this coming off of ivf is contraception. this is not happening in a silo. >> it is an agenda. >> and i know the national council of negro women and other women organizations have been getting together and talking about this particular issue and how you all go out and talk to voters. the american people, as they are making consequential decisions. you are not endorsing any races. but you care about people turning out to vote and i'm wondering how that particular

conversation is going. it is ivf, contraception, birth control, the birth control pill. >> being a woman in america. >> one of the things he found, we are council of 35 national organizations. we represent a cadre of women. some are educated some have a lower socioeconomic status. but what brings us together is the opportunity to have our constitutional rights. and you know it might separate us as the country even more? to take away rights that have been founded on the principles of the democracy. and let me say this. as we see games taken away, what we are telling our constituents is, your ability to vote now is more important than ever because those that we voted for have placed judges and positions that have made these decisions and your vote counted then and it counts even more now because the more we vote, the more we have a voice in the process and then we say this.

black women specifically have a voting block that has been consistent for the last 35, 40 years and a consistent amount of issues that matter. the economy, healthcare, public safety and access to the right to vote. and if we are not going to take that seriously, i will tell you this. the administration is currently in office and will see that there are consequences here. i'm hopeful that our country, that we are factual and we see how black women trend. we are hopeful that the american voter takes the selection seriously. there will be consequences if we don't. >> talk to some of the black men out there. >> there are things to discuss. like with the young people are doing. >> this is why we need to have you at the table. thank you for coming in today.

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