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house. i think that at this point, you know, netanyahu has been, he is an obstacle or his government is an obstacle to getting humanitarian aid into gaza and also he is an obstacle to any sort of plan for the day after, which is one reason why they are, there's a lot of reasons why they are quickly losing support in the united states and around the world but one is because there is no, there's no end to this on the horizon. there's no day after. >> michelle, thank you as always. it is good to see you. michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for the new york times. that is our show for tonight. it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. my second time encountering you today and it is always a pleasure, my friend. >> you can help me with this. i really, i don't know much about the stock market. it says here dow jones, 39,000 512 , s and p 5000 to 24. nasdaq 16,000 369.
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beside each one of those numbers, it says all time high. >> this is the stock market that is tanking because apparently donald trump is getting elected, it makes no sense, we are seeing strong economic numbers. you and i have talked about this. i will tell people because of had this conversation with people that lawrence likes talking about economics and knows a lot about it. the stock market is not the greatest indicator of the economy but it is alongside low unemployment, inflation under control, i gdp growth, increasing wages and the stock market. it is all firing on most of the cylinders. >> listen, i don't blame president when stock markets go down or give them much credit when it goes up but everyone else does and the news media seems to be able to store it when it is joe biden's stock market. >> have a great show, i'm looking forward to it. >> today, a racist con man who owes the state of new york $464 million told new york state's first african-american attorney general, his words, "keep your
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filthy hands off trump tower." of course because racist donald trump is also a coward donald trump, he would not dare say that directly to the attorney general. instead, he set it to his followers on line in another desperate request for their money. in his unhinged post, here it is, we printed it out, donald trump says "insane radical democrat attorney general letitia james wants to seize my parties in new york. this includes the iconic trump tower!" there it is, right there. okay. a couple things about trump power. there's nothing iconic about it. it is a plane and boring looking office building with mixed-use including some apartments in midtown manhattan
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that looks like every other plain, boring office building. get those pictures down, that is not trump tower. those are iconic buildings. don't put those up when we are talking about trump power. trump tower looks like every other boring box that surrounds it in midtown manhattan. iconic holdings in new york, of course include the empire state building, the chrysler building, there they are, whose profiles are known around the world. and, there are dozens of architecturally important, beautiful buildings not quite as famous worldwide as the empire state building and the chrysler building, including the flatiron building and many others. trump tower, so-called, will never be on a list of iconic or important buildings in new york. trump tower is not a tower by new york city standards. there are over 100 buildings in
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manhattan taller than donald trump's building that he calls a tower. you can't pick out trump tower from an airplane landing at a new york airport or from anywhere else in new york. the only way you know you are looking at trump tower is if you are standing right in front of it and seeing that name on the building. that building will be torn down someday, like most of the buildings around it and replaced by a better building. and, no one will miss it. on monday, donald trump will run out of time to come up with the money that would allow him to protect his assets from seizure while he is appealing the $464 million civil judgment against him for business fraud in new york state. telling the attorney general to keep her hands off trump tower
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sounds like donald trump doesn't think he's going to be able to come up with the money that would prevent the attorney general for putting a lien on that building. if that is the case, we are about to find out how much of that building donald trump actually owns, if any. because, as of tuesday of next week, attorney general letitia james might be going full speed ahead in the process eventually, possibly forcing the sale of trump properties in order to pay the judgment donald trump owes the state of new york. andrew wiseman will join us in a moment to discuss that process. that means the next few days and of the coming weekend will be the most financially desperate days of donald trump's life so far, with sure the many more such desperate financial days to come. today, a group called the national security action, which was cofounded by president obama's deputy national
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security advisor ben rhodes issued a white paper describing the security risk that donald trump's financial situation now poses . national security professionals have long maintained that large personal debts isn't a significant counterintelligence risk for those with access to classified information, notably donald trump's debts rise far above what security and counter intelligence officials find concerning foremost government servants, let alone a commander in chief. his debts are hardly the only source of concern. his well-established track record of recklessly sharing classified information and use of the presidential office for personal gain demonstrates his willingness to prioritize his own personal profits above the safety of americans. experts have also highlighted telltale signs of ability to foreign influence, including erratic behavior, severe financial strain, and anger toward the united states government, all
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qualities exhibited by donald trump. simply put, donald trump's unique and peerless financial situation presents real vulnerabilities for u.s. national security. earlier this evening, we recorded an interview with former national security adviser susan rice about the possible national security risk donald trump represents. joining us now is susan rice, who served as ambassador to the united nations and national security advisor to resident obama and vice president biden's first director of domestic policy. ambassador rice, thank you very much for joining us tonight. there have been reports for years now, including during the trump residency about donald trump's indebtedness and how that is a vulnerability or could be a vulnerability for national security. with that the legal judgments against him now, have $1
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billion, that risk has reached a whole new level. what is your assessment of that current and possibly future risk? >> good evening, lawrence, great to be with you again. when you look at donald trump's indebtedness and the real prospect that he may not be able to raise through normal banking channels some $500 million or more than he does, you have to wonder where he's going to get that money from, if he is able to get it. in the event that he has two take that money from an individual or an entity, whether domestic or international, that individual or entity is potentially going to have real influence over him . so, that is of concern when, in particular, when you add it to the reality that we know that, you know, he has a long history of foreign financial entitlements and he has
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accepted money from the chinese communist party to his properties. he is in partnership and invested with the saudi sovereign wealth fund. there are so many ways in which of the whole stench of money from dubious places infuses his business enterprise. so, this would more questions should that be the case going forward. >> let's listen to john bolton, who served as donald trump's national security advisor, what he says about this. >> he is consumed by these troubles, his family is consumed by them and i think foreigners will try to take advantage of it one way or another. they may be doing it already. >> ambassador rice, he has been there, he's seen it up close. >> he absolutely has. i think the bigger point here, lawrence, donald trump's former vice president, two of his
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defense secretaries, two of his national security advisor's, his secretary of state, u.n. ambassador, all of whom have worked up close and personal with him have judged him to be unfit and don't think he should serve again as president of the united states and they know better than you or i could begin to know just how dangerous donald trump is for our national security. the big picture is even beyond the foreign financial entanglement. this is a man who has said repeatedly that he would stand by our nato allies. he encouraged vladimir putin to have his way with our european partners and break up, he claims, and as john bolton validates, the most important alliance in american history, which would leave us and our allies extremely vulnerable. he continues to praise dictators from putin and it is exceedingly dangerous to have
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somebody potentially tried to return to the oval office who has done such damage to our national interests already and is promising to do far more. >> this issue intersects with another known trump issue and that is the mishandling of classified information, including disseminating it in the oval office. he actually revealed classified information to the russian foreign minister and then out of office, we know he revealed classified information about nuclear submarine fleet to an australian billionaire. there's no information about any exchange of money from the australian billionaire to donald trump but as both of these issues are present at the same time, in the same person, there seems to be a possible intersection of both of those risks.
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>> not to mention he has been indicted, of course, for gross mishandling of classified documents and trying to obstruct and cover that up. the real problem and a pattern here is we have somebody who clearly doesn't put the interests of the united states ahead of his own personal interests. that is the fundamental problem. when that is the case, the united states is deeply vulnerable to manipulation and exploitation by our adversaries, with whom he seems to be most comfortable. so, this is really something that people need to be mindful of. he is telling us exactly what he intends to do and what he intends to do is absolutely antithetical to the national security interest of the united states and fundamentally dangerous. >> ambassador susan rice, thank you for sharing your experience and expertise with us.
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we appreciate it. >>, lawrence, good to be with you. joining our discussion no is andrew weissman, former fbi general counsel , he is the co- author of the new york times best-selling book, "the trump indictments." for the purposes of this discussion, let's assume donald trump can't come up with any money. we get to monday and we get to tuesday after the deadline, attorney general is now 32 move against properties, what happens? >> so, i think that you are going to see the attorney general first put a lien on every piece of property, every bank account that she knows about. she can also seek damages -- >> she knows about all of it because of the lawsuit. >> she has a lot of discovery on what to do. she also gets to take discovery in aid of enforcement of the judgment. she can also seek to have the
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receiver appointed. remember barbara jones, a former federal judge is already monitoring the company but she can ask to appoint a receiver to start this process of seizing assets not just freezing them but seizing them. she will take the steps he needs to to make sure the citizens of new york are protected. >> let's go back to receiver for the audience, to find that role. >> so, that is very much like a monitor, that is someone the court appoints to say i want you to oversee exactly what is happening. what property is out there, what should be frozen and come back to me with what you think should happen. >> the process stops relying on donald trump for answers and just has a receiver in charge and you say to the receiver how much of that building does he
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own, we want this. >> absolutely. he's a player but he is not the person you are relying on. it can be complicated. let's say there's a piece of property where a bank has the first mortgage but the attorney general wants to have the equity that is on top of that so there you would have to sort of orchestrate a sale and you want to make sure it is a sale as close to market value as you can get. you can have properties that are co-owned and you have to deal with how are you going to deal with the other owners and how are you going to enforce a sale there. there are all sorts of complications. the first task is to reduce enough so that there is the full amount so that donald trump can't dissipate those assets., take a moment to talk about what ambassador rice said ? having been in the intelligence community, this is one where this is just not shouldn't be a partisan issue. what donald trump has done just leave aside whether he gets the money from a foreign person or
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an adversary, what he has done in connection to the way he treated both the intelligence community and denigrated them and in the way he has treated classified documents isn't a future harm, that is a current harm to the national security. what ambassador rice knows is that in order to keep this country secure, you have to have complete alliances and trust with your colleagues overseas, with the so-called five days. there are other countries that trust you will keep their secrets and they can work with you to prevent terrorism because it is not in their interest or our interest. all of that is put in jeopardy what they are thinking that this man, donald trump, could be back in the oval office because all of those things can become public and that is not in the interest of our allies and even adversaries who are willing to work with us on this
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problem. it is an incredibly serious problem for this country now. >> the security risk of a man desperate for more than half $1 billion who we already know as basically delivered national security information to an australian billionaire. >> i'm not sure he's capable of thinking of the national security interest of the country and anything. the personal interest. obviously he has an enormous personal interest to worry about, have 1 billion reasons to be worried about his own personal interests. i don't know that he has the capacity. just the fact that he would take and not return the documents that he had at mar-a- lago is unimaginable to anybody who has ever been in the intelligence community. that that is a way you would
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behave, that there is something so important to keeping all of us say. >> donald trump's life will enter a new phase next week. andrew weissman, thank you for joining the discussion tonight. coming up, when the president goes to your state to make a big announcement about increasing manufacturing jobs in your state, if you are a senator, you want to be there. arizona senator mark kelly had a job to do in the united states senate today in washington so he couldn't be with joe biden in arizona for the big jobs announcement. senator kelly will join us next. next. ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining. and the majority of people experienced long-lasting remission at one year. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections
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>> it is all part of my investing in america agenda, which attracted $675 billion to $675 billion in private sector investments and ignited a manufacturing in america. a clean energy boom, a jobs boom, all here in america, finally. >> remember when donald trump was president, he did not of that. that with president biden today explaining the new manufacturing investments in arizona after his mary win in arizona last night where he, once again, won a larger percentage of the vote in his primary than donald trump won in that primary in the state where president biden be donald trump by 457,000 votes, joe biden won 90% of the vote. donald trump won 78% of the vote in the republican presidential primary, losing 30% of the vote to nikki haley, who dropped out of the race during the early voting in
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arizona. some votes went to ron desantis. today in maricopa county, that flipped from donald trump to joe biden in 2020, president biden announced nearly $20 billion in grants and loans to the semiconductor company, intel, to expand its chip production in plants across four states, the administration's largest investment under the chips and signs act. >> this historic funding will be used to build new semiconductor facilities and modernize, modernize and expand existing ones in arizona, ohio, new mexico and oregon. combined, it will create nearly 20,000, 20,000 construction jobs, many of which we will be union jobs. this announcement will also support 10,000 manufacturing jobs. 3000 right here in phoenix was salaries averaging $100,000 a year that don't all require
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college degrees. that will put us on track to manufacture the world's leading chicks. it is a fundamental break from the trickle-down economics supercharged by my predecessor. on his watch, companies that jobs overseas for cheaper labor and imported products. we are creating jobs in america and exporting american products. my predecessor and his allies in congress want to go back. the vast majority of the team on the other side didn't vote for the chips and signs act. >> president biden thanked our next guest, democratic senator mark kelly of arizona, who is a sponsor and lead negotiator on the chips and assignments act for helping make today's investment in arizona possible. >> while he couldn't be here today because of quotes in washington, i want to thank
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senator mark kelly, who's doing an incredible job, a real champion for the announcement to be made here today. he that the partnership with companies investing billions and billions of dollars across the country, bringing semiconductor manufacturing back to america. the jobs of the future back to america, including here in arizona with a significant help of mark kelly. >> joining us is democratic senator mark kelly of arizona. senator, thank you for being here and before we get to arizona, what was the business in the united states senate today you had to vote on ? >> well, lawrence, first of all, thanks for having me on. it was a big day in arizona. one of the biggest that i've seen since i've been in office, clearly the biggest. the chips and assignments act and the grant money, as the resident ticket they did, great paying jobs you can raise a family on. fixing a national security issue we've had for decades now with semiconductor chips, the best ones, anyway, all being made overseas. i have a job to do.
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my job is generally here in washington, d.c.. we had important votes, getting some judges confirmed. these would be close votes and i could not be too far away from capitol hill. i would've liked to have been there with the president but my job is representing the people of arizona here in washington. >> what you were doing today, voting on those judges nominated by joe biden, with the president was doing in arizona, none of that could happen, none of that would be happening with a republican in the white house. this is what is going on is arizona was a democratic initiative. >> certainly not with donald trump in the white house. we saw during his administration he cared about tax cuts for the wealthy and taking away reproductive rights from women. that was the agenda. president biden is taking this country forward, not backwards. this is an exciting day in
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arizona and really for our nation. 3000 at intel alone, 3000 manufacturing jobs, you had tsmc on top of that. when you expand that on the country and the fact that these are jobs you can raise a family on that do not require a four- year degree, this is a really, really big deal . it's really exciting. >> let's listen to what president biden said in arizona, speaking to latino voters. >> you are the reason why i beat donald trump. in 2016, he called latinos criminals and drug dealers when he came down that escalator. now he says immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country. what is he talking
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about? i need you, i need you badly. i need the help,, and i desperately need your help because, look, there is only about six or seven states that will determine the outcome of this election. they are tossup states. this is one of them. >> the pressure is on in arizona. how do you see the biden campaign winning arizona this time? >> he won in 2020. that was when my first election was and the president won arizona by 10,000 votes. he could do that again. he's got a record to run on. not only bringing manufacturing back to the united states but reducing the price of prescription drugs for seniors. the bipartisan infrastructure bill. president trump's didn't do anything that was bipartisan. he was focused on cutting taxes for the wealthy and taking away rights from women. so, this president is going to move the country forward. i think arizonans get that. when you consider trumps language about migrants and about immigrants poisoning the blood of america, well, my response to that is that is just un-american. that is not who we are as a people. joe biden knows who we are, knows where this country needs
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our next guest is the son of refugee parents who fled the east african country of eritrea in the 1980s and settled in the crisfield, california where congressman joe neguse was born. the family moved to colorado where joe neguse went to law school at the university of colorado. joe neguse became the youngest impeachment manager in history, prosecuting donald trump in trumps second impeachment trial in the united states senate. >> what more could we possibly need to know about resident trumps state of mind? senators, the evidence is clear
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and we showed you statements, videos, affidavits that prove president trump incited an insurrection in an insurrection that he alone had the power to stop. and, the fact that he didn't stop it, the fact that he incited a lawless attack and abdicated his duty to defend us from it, the fact that he actually further inflamed the mob, further inflamed that mob, attacking his vice president while assassins were pursuing him in this capitol more than requires conviction and disqualification. we humbly, humbly ask you to convict president trump for the crime for which he is overwhelmingly guilty. >> today at age 39, joe neguse
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became the youngest member of the democratic leadership of the house of representatives when democrats elected him without opposition to serve as assistant democratic leader replacing south carolina congressman james clyburn, who announced last month that he was stepping down to make way for younger leadership. on assistant democratic leader joe neguse's for stay in that position, the republican majority in the house was once again disgracing themselves by making a mockery of impeachment in a hearing where democrats repeatedly humiliated the republicans failed attempt to find something, anything for an impeachment case against president biden. >> with any luck, today marks the end of perhaps the most spectacular failure in the history of congressional investigations, the effort to find a high crime or misdemeanor committed by joe biden and then to impeach him
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for it. the prior hilarious episodes of this long-running that cup series, america got to see the following. nearly 20 fact witnesses who could not identify a single act of wrongdoing by president biden, much less a high crime and misdemeanor, and who overwhelmingly testified that biden was not involved in any of his family's business adventures. two, three expert witnesses called by the majority itself who said nothing that they had seen in the tens of thousands of pages of documents produced by the majority even remotely approach the level of a high crime and misdemeanor. bank records, which show exactly what all the witnesses told us, that joe biden was not involved in his family members businesses. repeated voyeuristic space of pornographic images by the majority completely irrelevant to any conceivable legislative
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or investigative purpose. a star witness who turned out to be a chinese agent and an illegal arms trafficker on the run from american justice. >> joining us for his first interview since being elected assistant democratic leader of the house is colorado congressman joe neguse. thank you very much for joining us on this important night for you , your first night in this role. where is the house of representatives going no after that hearing that we saw today? >> well, good to be with you, lawrence, good evening, thanks for having me on. i couldn't have said it any better than ranking member jamie raskin, my fellow impeachment manager, the lead impeachment manager under the second impeachment of former president donald trump. it is a sad state of affairs in
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the 118th congress with a house republican caucus that is mired in chaos and dysfunction and has been so for the better part of the last 14, 15 months and perhaps the most salient example of this is this failed impeachment effort, a frivolous impeachment effort that has no basis with respect to evidence, no cogent articulation of how any of what they have alleged to meet the constitutional standard for impeachment, which, as you know, lawrence, is a very exacting one. the american people understand well what a high crime and misdemeanor is because they witnessed it firsthand with respect to former president trumps conduct on january 6th, which, of course led to the impeachment trial, the clips of which you showed. i wish the republicans would get serious about governing and work with us in a bipartisan way to address the consequential challenges we face as a country. unfortunately, they seem disinclined to do so. >> i want to listen to one more than from the hearing that representative stephen lynch had to say. let's listen to it. >> you've provided more evidence to impeach donald trump for a third time then you
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have in so much as laying a glove on president biden. we keep on hearing about the biden family. when you hear someone say the biden family, that translates into we have no evidence on the president so we are going to use the biden family to try to implicate president biden. but, by the constant bubbling and continual shifting arguments here, you have done nothing more than exonerate president biden. >> of course, congressman joe neguse, all that is distracting from what should be the real business of the house of representatives right now, urgent issues facing the house including aid for ukraine, is there any possibility of a discharge petition being used by the democrats to try to get to a vote on ukraine aid ? >> i would say first, lawrence, you have articulated that the sexual frustration of so many members of congress and i think ultimately the frustration of the american people as they watch these impeachment
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proceedings, which have devolved into a circus and at the end of the day, it obfuscates away from the real challenges that the american people face and the need for us to address them. house democrats under leader hakeem jeffries have offered a compelling vision to lower costs, grow the middle class, build safer communities, to address our national security concerns with respect to aiding ukraine. house republicans refuse to work with us in good faith on the same and instead waste time on these political witchhunts. with respect to the discharge petition you mentioned, as you know, the discharge petition has been filed by making member mcgovern of the rules committee and there are a large number of members who have signed that petition. at the end of the day, the question becomes one for speaker johnson. is he willing to ultimately put on the floor a bipartisan bill that passed the united states senate with 70 votes, which, as you know from your time in the senate is no easy feat.
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this is a bipartisan proposal that has broad support among the american public. speaker johnson refuses to put that on the floor. we shouldn't assume that he or this body is impervious to public opinion. we ought to make clear our desire, our request that he put it up for an up or down vote on the floor. >> there's a lot more governing to do. the senate, chuck schumer is moving through appropriations bills, the bills that fund the government. the house doesn't seem to be moving on that at all. >> i will say this. leader jeffries from the outset of the 118th congress made clear we would extend a hand in partnership. what we need is a governing partner on the other side. i think he, the leader, the ranking member who you had on your program many times before have done a masterful job negotiating a set of appropriations bills to ultimately fund the government. lest we forget, we've had three government shutdown showdowns this year, all averted because of the leadership of congressional democrats led by leader jeffries and working in partnership with leader chuck
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schumer and president biden. hope springs eternal. we will keep trying to convince our colleagues to see the light and work with us in good faith. there's a lot of work to do. >> assistant leader, assistant aquatic leader joe neguse. thank you for joining us tonight for the first interview with your new title. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up , there won't be the bloodbath donald trump is protecting when he doesn't win the electoral college. it's not going to happen. now donald trump is trying to take back his bloodbath prediction and claim that he was actually talking about a bloodless bloodbath. that is next. next. are you taking the right multi-vitamin? with new chapter, you get excellent quality, organic ingredients, and fermentation. fermentation? yes. feel the difference with 20 plus nutrients your body can absorb. so you can do you. learn more at newchapter.com.
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>> if i don't get elected, it will be a bloodbath. those were donald trump's words on saturday and he has been trying to run away from those words ever since. s ever since. it was about cars. but cars don't bleed. people do. our next guest, bryan class, wrote the blood bath comment was at a rally that began with trump saluting as he listened to a version of the national anthem sung by people in prison for violently trying to overturn an election on january 6th. if you think he is just talking about the auto industry, you are delusional. trump routinely uses dog whistle language that maybe you
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can give the benefit of the doubt to if you ignore literally everything about his past rhetoric and conduct. he has a palong, long track record of using violent rhetoric and he already inspired a violent mob. joining us now is bryan class. an association professor of global politics. contributing writer for the atlantic. author of fluke, chance chaos and why everything we do matters. all right, bryan, we are going to listen together to the offending trump statement about the blood bath. >> let me tell enyou something g china. if you are listening, president xi and you and i are friends but he understands the way i deal. those big monster car manufacturing plants that you are building in mexico right now and you think you're going to get that and not hire americans and sell the cars to us. no, we're going to put a 100%
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tariff on every single car that comes across the line. if i get elected, if i don't get elected, it will be a blood bath. that will be the least of it. it will be a blood bath for the country. that will be odthe least of it. but they are not going to sell those cars. >> so, it's going to be a blood bath for the country. he did not say it's going to be a blood bath for the auto industry or mexico. >> trying to understand donald trump's word is always a puzzle. even if you were to give him the benefit of the doubt and ignore everything he said, you have to think about the way he handles rhetoric all of the time. in the opening to athis rally, he is referencing the january 6th jailed people as hostages. he was referencing the idea he n was going to basically do something about getting them out of prison on the first day
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he is in office. and a couple of months ago, he floated the idea f o america's top general. he has rhetoric he has used about police being harsher on people being arrested. he talked about shooting looters and so on. when the looting starts, the shooting starts. every bit of opportunity that tu trump can take to incite or stir the pot he takes. so if we were going to take this one quote and imagine that it exists in some sort of vacuum, it is just beggar's belief. it is the last eight or nine years didn't happen in order for us to fall for that. >> and he wants to scare people. he wants people on the democratic side of politics to be afraid of that. he wants them to think he means literally a blood bath. but in fact, he is no longer capable of summoning the crowd he got january 6th because mostg
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of them are in jail now and the mothers of the rest of them won't let them leave the house. but the fear is what he wants. that's part of the way he actually appeals to those people who cheer for that. >> it is worth remembering that january 6th or an event like it doesn't require millions of people. it requires thousands. and so, in a country of 330 million people there is this term sarcastic terrorism. if you have a very high profile figure inciting violence, a small number of people act. and there have already been people arrested who have gone through the judicial system who reference trump as they commit crimes. the idea we hold him to the lowest possible standard is then way we treat him. oh, he might have meant the cars so it is okay. no, it's not. when there is a moment you need to leave the country and you
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need to try to tamp down the impulses to violence among your extremist supporters, we always just sort of hold the low barrier of the standard that says maybe he possibly meant something else. and i just think at some point, you have to say look at the full picture, there have been eight or nine years of incitements of violence that trump has perpetrated and he already did incite a mob that attacked the capitol. if we can imagine one vacuum for this specific phrase is beyond belief to me. >> the more i look at the text of it, the it does not say the auto industry. what would a blood bath mean? the united auto workers? anyway, thank you very much for joining us. tonight's last word is next. joining us. tonight's last word is next. that means your priorities are ours too.
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there was another big winner in ohio's primary last night. david hogg first introduced us to christine cockley last week. leaders we deserve, endorsed. last night, she beat six other
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candidates to become the democratic nominee for ohio's sixth state house district which includes columbus, she posted we won. thank you so much to the voters of ohio, house district 6 who put their trust in me. i'm proud to be your democratic nominee and i promise to always fight for you. lead with empathy, and advocate for our most vulnerable neighbors. on ward to the general. christine cockley, democratic nominee for the ohio house of representatives gets tonight's last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight, donald trump's options narrow as his bond deadline looms. and that civil fraud case. what's next for the former president if he can't pay the over 400 million-dollar penalty? then, a controversial immigration law in texas is back on hold. we'll break down what officials there and in mexico