my sources say they should expect future arms transfers in the coming days. the administration has said that right now all of this speculation about cutting off military assistance to israel at this point is an informed speculation. it is true that there are more conversations about this happening inside the administration when it comes to this all-important decision where there is actual leverage. it's also building up to a point of this conflict headed towards a showdown in rafah where netanyahu has already signed off. it's a big decision. we will see where it goes. >> john hudson and peter beinart. thank you both very much. >> we have worked together for a long time. we run into each other a lot. it's not that i pay a lot of

attention to social media but i got a tweet yesterday after you finish your soda say is there some beef between us? just to be clear for everybody, no. >> the opposite of beef. people need to know this. when i am over i am quick because it's your show. we get in and out. >> no beef. good to see you. a great discussion. have a great evening. i will have a good show. thank you for joining us this evening. keep your filthy hands off trump tower. that is his latest fundraising pitch to supporters. quote, insane radical democrat ag letitia james was to seize my properties in new york. this includes the iconic trump tower. for the day is over and calling on 1 million trump patriots to chip in and say, stop the witchhunt against president trump.". the tone of the fundraising emails are always glaringly urgent.

new reporting says that donald trump is really panicking about losing his properties. ie the former president has just five days to pay the state of new york a bond of nearly half $1 billion after he was found liable in the new york attorney general civil fraud case against him. he has spent the last month desperately trying to find a financial institution, basically an insurer, that would essentially front him thes money while he appeals the case. his lawyers claim he's approached more than 30 3 potential lenders. so far none have come through. they say coming up with a bond of that size is a practical impossibility. today the new york attorney th general's office urged an appellate court not to buy those claims, saying that defendant's argument that obtaining a full bond is purportedly impossible is based on the false premise that they must obtain a single bond from a single surety for the entire judgment amount of $464 million. so we wait to see what happens next.

unless the appeals court ways in and pauses the judgment, if trump does not find some way to come up with the money before monday, new york attorney ne general letitia james really can start the process of seizing trump office assets. she's made very clear that she's prepared to do just that. >> if he does not have funds to pay off the judgment, then we will seek judgment enforcement mechanisms in court. we will ask the judge to seize his assets. we are prepared to make sure the judgment is paid to new yorkers. yes, i look at 40 wall street each and every day. y >> i look at 40 wall street each and every day. the attorney general has never once mentioned trump tower, his new york city home. the allies of the former president league door to the new york post that he is now considering just lighting the new york attorney general sees trump tower.

quote, it's an option he appears to have considered partly because he believes the chances are good he could recover the assets on appeal even if he's forced to take his case to the supreme court. o that is according to friends. that is got there are a number of problems with the logic. you could very easily lose on appeal and therefore lose any chance of getting his property back. two, even if he s did win on appeal, this is interesting. there's no guarantee he would get the seized property back. as one expert told the new york post, they are going after the money and that's all he has the right to get back. not the buildings. trump does have other options to prevent the state from immediately seizing his assets. he could, for instance, declare bankruptcy.'s businesses have after all already declared bankruptcy six times before so what is a seventh at this point? according to reporting for cnn he has privately expressed opposition to any path concerning filing for

bankruptcy. as one insider close to trump told the new york post, he has been there and done that. alternatively, he could try to borrow money from some of his o wealthy donors. apparently his ego will not allow for that. he's not and i'm passing the hat man. he doesn't want pity or for anyone to feel sorry for him. recipients of his incessant fundraising missives might quibble with the notion that he is not a passing the hat man, but it is in keeping with his public persona for him to be too ashamed to ask for help from someone wealthier than he is. then there's the possibility he could borrow the money from a foreign power looking to exert influence over trump. a country like russia or saudi arabia. that theory has mostly been suggested by trump critics. watch what happened today when fost -- fox news asked his

lawyer if they are considering doing that? >> is there any effort on the part of your team to secure this money through another country, saudi arabia or russias as joy behar seems to think? >> there's rules and regulations that are public. i can't speak about strategy. that requires certain things that we have to follow those rules. >> the question was, are you considering getting money from saudi arabia or russia. the answer in case you did not get that was, there's rules and regulations. i can't speak about strategy. we have to follow those rules. of course, because trump is a big role sky. that was not exactly the as resounding know you might expect if he had actually ruled that option out. so what happens next? for months we have watched as he has managed to obtain delay after delay after delay and is very's criminal cases. in the new york civil case the clock is running out. the bill is due in five days.

joining me now, adam the former assistant attorney general in new york and at a 'well. adam one, let's talk about this. we tried to lay lkout the possibilities, and assuming something does not happen, donald trump has to produce t something in five days. either a bond or the money. >> either has to produce a bond which will stave off enforcement. a bond in the full amount of the judgment plus interest, expected interest. you are , talking about a 500+ million dollar bond. that would stop enforcement. enforcement stops while the appeal is pending. if he loses the appeal, the full amount is paid within 10 days to the state. option b is enforcement can start.t enforcement, the attorney general's office has said they will give a 30 day grace period. they do not have to. in state court there is no 30 days stay but they have given

until monday. that means on monday they can start seizing financial assets.e >> literally. they can go put a notice on the door of one of his buildings? >> there is a sheriff and marshall in new york city. sort of like the wild west. the attorney general's office can sign what is called an execution. nobody dies except the assets as it were. they deliver it with a $50 fee to the office of the sheriff or the city marshall. they can walk into the bank and execute all the assets. drain the bank accounts. ordinarily you would wonder, where does the defendant bank? here conveniently they did a two month trial that was a complete roadmap to his assets.r they know exactly where he banks. >> adam, are you curious about this? people have speculated this for a while that at a level of about half $1 billion donald trump may have trouble raising this money. that's not to say his value

does not exceed this but it is tied up in assets. we now have a much clearer picture of his cash situation than we have for all these years of trying to get his tax returns. >> absolutely. we have a clear picture of his universe and constellation of businesses from judge barbara jones who is the court monitor it was looking over everything. the recent report said that there are 512 different entities. now that is something, as adam said earlier it is a roadmap. we the public may not -- even people who have been following this very closely, have a clear idea of what this maze and thicket of companies are but the ag does that. the monitor knows that. pretty soon, that might be coming to a head in the enforcement phase. >> adam, let's talk about the fairness of the system. if you are found responsible and have to pay money, there is

an appeals process. if you put somebody else in the situation, not donald trump. it may be onerous for people to come up with money which is why we have the surety system. tell me how that works. what does the surety mean versus him actually having the money? >> the bond is written by an insurance broker on behalf of an insurance company. unlike your car insurance or homeowners insurance, most cars don't crash. you might pay $2000 a year to ensure a $30,000 car. most people lose their appeal. you already lost in the court. this ensure is taking a significant risk. they are ensuring that the full amount of the judgment from the court below will be paid if the attorney general in this case, the plaintiff, wins her appeal. if trump loses the appeal. so the bond pays out.

it's an insurance policy effectively that pays the full amount. >> adam, he e has assets but fo anybody who has any assets at an all, anyone with a car or house, nobody wants to have to liquidate in firesale terms. obviously in this instance, if you lose is an asset. if he has to give up or the sheriff comes to put a claim on the property beyond his bank account, you don't always get the best value. that can't be his preferred option. >> it can't be. one of the interesting things in the interview she mentioned in particular 40 wall street. it harkens back to this moment in the trial. i remember when trump was giving us testimony in his discursive and bantering style and he said that letitia james doesn't even know where 40 wall street is. she laughed out loud because she can see it from her office. other people from the ag's

office were laughing as well. one wonders if that is what she has her sights on. trump did say, his entire pitch to the appellate court in trying to halt this process is that the real estate is not liquid and the bonding companies won't work with him as a result of that. the ag says, that's not true. maybe his properties are not as valuable as he says they are. >> they could probably add up a bunch of properties and come up to the amount of money he needs. i guess the issue is, you both have mentioned this roadmap. we know where his finances are. at least the attorney general does. what is this business of him potentially declaring bankruptcy or companies declaring bankruptcy. what's his personal culpability versus the entities that he has? >> if you look at the judgment, the judgment lays out which

entity has culpability and liability for the judgment. the longer the defendant has moved on to being a judgment debtor owes the money. one knows $125 million and the other $200 million. it's a lot of money. he could declare bankruptcy. an entity could declare bankruptcy but that does not cy wipe the deck clean. bankruptcy pauses and brings in his bankruptcy judge and trustee to sort out where the assets and liabilities are and he would still have to pay. assuming his assets still exceed the liabilities he would still be on the hook and the entities would still be on the hook. >> adam, the idea of raising money from a foreign sports is -- source is speculation. there's no sense that it's true which surprised me about the interview. you would think the answer to that would be a resounding no. i do not know if either of you understand that answer about rules and things like that. it made me think, ab you are

talking to a foreign entity about paying these bills. >> it's a classic nondenial denial. she did not say we are putting e this off the table. she did not say we are going to do this. it is a way to dodge the question. the textbook style that every od journalist and reporter looks te out for. >> adam, one thing i have not understood since the beginning of this, we know donald trump raises money every time he feels under threat some passion. without be legal if he did this campaign and said, save trump tower, give one dollar before midnight and he raises the money? >> look, it's not easy to raise $500 million. even for donald trump. i don't think you can use campaign money to pay an appellate bond on a personal liability. there are campaign-finance laws that prohibit that. >> i have learned a lot. thank you both adams for being here. adam and and klasfeld.

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there were many bizarre things about donald trump's presidency but one that was notably consistent and equally confusing was his odd obsession with appliances. >> sinks, toilets, light bulbs. but sinks, toilets, and showers . you don't get any water. people are flushing toilets 10w15 times as opposed to once. seats, showers. what goes with that? 10 times. not me, of course. >> i feel like if you need to flush the toilet 10 times you

should speak to your doctor. trump was very fixated on the energy efficiency efforts of past administrations. even made it a point to roll back more than 100 environmental rules and office. know that he's campaigning for a second shot he has a new obsession. one with less to do with the bathroom and more to do with the driveway. >> we are a nation whose leaders are demanding all electric cars, despite the fact that they don't go far, cost too much, and whose batteries are produced in china with materials only available in china. on day one i will terminate crooked job's ridiculous electric vehicle mandate. it is so ridiculous. >> kind of amazing that he still says china like that. he has set the electric cars will kill the auto industry and the economy which is not true. the car industry has been clear that electric vehicles are the future. it's the logical economic path

and the crucial transition to make if we plan to confront climate change, up crisis primarily fueled by oil and gas emissions. this is why the latest regulatory move by the current president, president biden, is a huge deal. today the biden administration announced a new role on tailpipe emissions which may not sound monumental but experts are hailing it as the single most important move in the country. joining me now is only given. thank you for being with us. i want to get your take on this because a lot of people that are serious about the climate say we have to change the way we move around. we have to think about moving differently than the car obsessed society. this seems to be a step in the right direction. >> for sure. put it in context. today the world meteorological organization reminded us that

2023 was the hottest year in the last 125,000. they issued what they called a red alert for climate change. so far, 2024 is hotter than 2023. we've got to do something and that means we've got to do something about what in america is one of the biggest sources of omissions. transportation, cars and trucks. this world that biden put forward today is not that strong. it relaxes somewhat the trajectory they were on because the uaw, auto workers union and others have said maybe we are moving a little too fast. he does continue the momentum towards the electrification of our automobile fleet. if you think about the things we have to do to deal with climate change, this is not a very hard one. what we are asking people to do is over the next decade change their current car for one that

is probably already cheaper are headed that way. it is quieter, it has fewer moving parts. it costs a lot less to operate. that is not a particularly large sacrifice to demand. the main sacrifice comes from the fossil fuel industry that wants to keep selling you gas forever. so today they announced they were launching a seven-figure ad campaign in the swing states accusing biden of an electric vehicle mandate, which this for better or for worse is not. trump, you may recall last weekend, promised a bloodbath in america. the thing he was talking about when he talked about the bloodbath was electric vehicles. like it or not, climate change and the things we have to do to begin to deal with it is now front and center in this campaign.

>> i think you make an interesting point. there are people including yourself that think if we want to take this as seriously as we should it requires massive behavioral change. not just behavior but infrastructure so we can use public transit more than our own cars. that said, this emphasis on electric vehicles will be almost indiscernible to people who make the shift. all that happens is you charge your car is supposed to go to the gas station. that makes me wonder why donald trump gets so invested in the fact that this is some kind of evil take over by bad people. it just doesn't make that much of a difference to most people. >> as usual the guy has no idea what he's talking about. he said the other day that electric vehicles only go 15 miles. i've been driving an ev for years and it goes 250. the ones they are building now go 400 or 500. so part of it is that. mostly it is the fact that the

republican party and these issues for years now has been a wholly-owned subsidiary of the fossil fuel industry. the biggest threat to them is that people will stop having to fill up all the time. looks, i hardly even remember how to operate the gas pump anymore. i just plug into the wall at home and the price of running that car is much smaller than it was before. it is good for me, it's bad for exxon and that should give you some clue as to why the fossil fuel industry has launched this seven-figure ad campaign. >> does this give you confidence? i ask you this as a proxy for people who don't think donald trump will be the answer to fighting climate change but are a little bit dissatisfied with the pace at which the biden administration has gone on this despite some major milestones that they have achieved. does this feel like movement in the right direction? meaningfully are not really?

>> no one is ever moving fast enough, but in this case the choice could not be clearer. third act, this organization for people over 60 endorsed biden this weekend. one of the biggest reasons was because it is abundantly clear that if we elect donald trump it will be a full on count the break halt to the momentum that has developed around renewable energy. it is not that biden is doing anything right. he's not because he's in a politically constrained and i remit, but he is reorienting our society in the right direction, beginning to spend the money that we need and, given four more years will probably make some serious progress. the contrast between that and the guy who, remember, pulled us out of the paris climate accords last time. the guy that told us that

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>> the crime issue is really serious. >> it's never been more clear in america that we are in a crime crisis. >> we've been documenting the retail theft crisis for three years. it's rampant. >> what is driving out the retailers his crime. >> it's the crime, stupid. it it's the crime, stupid. >> if you were to flip on fox news there's a decent chance you would find yourself watching help biden's america is rampant with crime. america is in a crime crisis.

it's not just fox. trump is also obsessed with crime but a very specific crime. >> it's a new category. i don't know if you've heard this. i came up with this one. migrant crime. there is crime. there is violent crime. there is migrant crime. it's a new category. the united states is being overrun by the biden migrant crime. it's a new form of vicious violation to our country. it is migrant crime. we call it biden migrant crime. >> there's a problem with that because what trump and fox are pushing lack fact. across the country the crime rate is down and continuing to drop. we have new fbi crime data yesterday that shows no matter how you slice it, america is getting safer. property crime is down. violent crime is down. the murder rate saw the sharpest annual decline ever recorded. that supposedly waive of

migrant crime trump is obsessed with, fox news ran 400 segments on it in the first 10 weeks of this year. the fact are not on trump or fox's sight on that either. statistically speaking immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than us-born citizens. you don't hear that on fox news. none of this is to say that many communities across the country are still grappling with very real incidents of crime or we should turn away from efforts to reduce crime. but the narrative being pushed that crime is on a precipitous rise under biden's democratic administration is simply false. what fox news lacks in facts, it makes up for in vibes. >> democrats will say, crime is down. that's not how people feel. >> we all know communities don't feel safer. >> you do see crime. i know president biden held the whole press conference that crime is down in america.

do you believe your eyes or do you believe the president? >> at the white house a few moments ago was touting a drop in crime statistics. that's not what we are feeling and seeing. >> don't believe your lying eyes. the reality is that crime in america started spiking in 2020 during the pandemic. when donald trump was president. fox news is taking advantage of a gap between perception and reality. polling shows almost every year for the past few decades americans have felt like the country was getting more dangerous even when it wasn't. those feelings now have a partisan split to them. last year 92% of republicans believe crime rose from the year before compared to 58% of democrats. i wonder why. still ahead tonight, and education bill that hundreds of students protested this month just became law in alabama making it the latest state to target diversity, equity, and

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wave of activists and empowered individuals to speak up and spread justice and equity in every way possible. that was sam ford university student tips gathered with hundreds of student protesters earlier this month. the bill he referenced was a new alabama senate bill banning diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts in public schools, university, and colleges. the history that he referenced included this. spring 1963, thousands of students gathered to protest segregation in alabama. they faced fire hoses, police dogs and arrests while calling for the diversification and classrooms and one of the most segregated cities in the country? that was just 61 years ago. today it became that much harder to learn that history and diversify classrooms in alabama. despite student protests, today the governor signed that new anti-de i bill into law.

the bill which takes effect october 1 prohibits the teaching of divisive concepts including that individuals are inherently responsible for actions committed in the past or that meritocracy is racist or sexist. it also bans schools and agencies from sponsoring de i programs and bans trans people from using restrooms aligning with gender identity. the birmingham mayor wrote, if supporting inclusion becomes illegal in the state you might as well stand in front of the school door like governor wallace. governor wallace, the former alabama governor who in 1963 stood in a doorway to block black students from attending classes at the university of alabama. he is the one whose inaugural promise was segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. joining me is alabama state representative, juandalynn givan. thank you for being with us this evening. i would like to get your reaction. this is a pretty

sweeping bill that does not really address anything that most people who understand de i believe is de i. it just seems to be a generally anti- diversification rule. >> absolutely. first of all, thank you for having me. i'm very disheartened by this bill. you represent -- reference 1963. i represent the area in which four little girls were killed at the baptist church that were bond, attending sunday school. this legislation, sb 129, on the house floor let me say to you what i said. i echoed these words. this bill takes me back. this is a rolled black escarole back of brown versus the board of education. this takes me to plessy versus ferguson. this takes me to a time in history that just a few months ago. just a few weeks ago in the

state of alabama we celebrated the 59th anniversary of the bombing of -- the crossing of the bridge. i am so alarmed by this piece of legislation and these divisive concepts. affirmative action was put in place in the country for reason. it gave individuals who have been marginalized in this country an opportunity for their shot whether they lived in a certain social economic or had a social economic status versus that of our counterparts . to me this is racism 101. this is beyond jim crow on steroids. i'm very concerned by what message this sends throughout this country, throughout the world that we are doing in alabama. estate so rich for discriminatory practices. >> when we have been concentrating a lot on because of the restrictions on reproductive practices. it seems like there are a lot

of conservative thinkers and ink tanks that are behind the movement to ban de i. the same people that think there has been censorship that university campuses and not enough free thought but the concept about learning about things like 1961 and 1963 and black history and wondering and being curious about what reparations or fixing it looks like is being shut down by people that complain that their speech has been shut down on other fronts. >> absolutely. we live in a time in the state of alabama where it is no longer good or safe to be black in america. i'm a black woman. i'm proud to be a black woman. i'm proud of my heritage. we have individuals carrying pieces of legislation such as this one that they did with the crt bill. when you ask them the question, do you know what 1619 meant in this country. they can't tell you that is when the first slave trade took place when black slaves were taken to jamestown. when you

are asked the question, do you know what the middle passage was but you are bringing bills that will tell me or tell any other individual that my blackness does not exist or if i have an lgbtq brother or sister that their rights no longer exist. if you would allow me to take that a step further. what we are witnessing now is the realization of what may happen in november. this is trump is him at its best. this will be a continuation of rollbacks. we saw that in the case in which a woman's right to choose was rolled back. we are seeing it here with what is considered or dubbed as divisive concept laws that will spread across the union. lgbtq rights will become further under attack. my question is, what rights will people such as myself and marginalized people in this country have then? i am sitting here now thinking about the dred scott decision. i should not have to be

thinking about that. i'm thinking about congressman john lewis crossing the bridge to head to montgomery to fight for justice for the simple right to vote when every day those rights are being stripped away. i'm also concerned for my democratic brothers and sisters who do not understand the importance of what the november election will be to us and people who look like me in this country. that is what sb 129, the effect it will have is a rollback. as i mentioned, beyond jim crow on steroids. this is taking me back to an era where i can still hear my grandparents talk about what it was like to hear the bomb that went off at the 16th street baptist church but what it also says to me is that my black in america is not beautiful. that i am not given those unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in this country. >> thank you for connecting this

what a lot of people might think is an abstraction to something very real and what people can do about it in november. this is not something to watch and say, it's alabama. they do crazy stuff down there. this is the kind of thing that is catching on in other parts of the country as well. juandalynn givan, thank you for joining us. we appreciate your time. we have one more story coming up as benjamin netanyahu says he is preparing to launch a ground attack in the most populated city in southern gaza . that is next. next. i would love to be able to end childhood cancer. i learned that no patient ever has a bill from st. jude, not for travel, for medical expenses. our little st. jude pin there on the fridge. we're just regular people donating. yeah, and i think it's cool to be able to make a difference in someone's life in a way that is meaningful.

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we've no longer scattered among the nations. and soldiers who defend our home, have boundless courage. for the first time in 100 generations, we, the jewish people can defend ourselves. store that was prime minister ben judge main netanyahu, urging a nuclear deal with iran. he said defiantly that israel could defend itself. however, that was not entirely true then. and it's not entirely true today. israel has never defended itself by itself. israel is the largest recipient of u.s. foreign aid since its creation. according to congressional data, it has received more than $200 billion in economic assistance, and billions more in assistance funding. that includes some of the weapons israel is using in its

war with hamas, a war that has now claimed more than 31,000 lives and counting, according to the palestinian ministry of health. at the start of this conflict, joe biden was quick to issue his unwavering support. but he's been quick to criticize prime minister netanyahu. but a blockade of 1.1 million people, half the people of gaza, to the point of starvation. netanyahu, could he go farther? the supply of weapons supplied by the u.s.? why won't the president use that particular leverage? joining me is michelle golden. thank you for being with us. it's an interesting few weeks we have been watching, where president biden announced air drops of aid, announced a sea

bridge that antony blinken says will be dropped in about two weeks. as if we're dealing with a country. >> i think netanyahu has always showed. he expects enormous amounts of deference from leaders. and shows kind of complete contempt and defiance. and we've seen this over and over again. and i think he depends on domestic politics, constraining presidents, or at least democratic presidents. obviously, israel has very strong supporters, among, in large parts, the community. it's made it in the past, kind of politically poison us to go against israel. but that hasn't always been the case. you know, i think an example that people bring up all the time is ronald reagan,

basically demanding that it called what he called holocaust in lebanon in the '80s. and there's other times in which americans have exercised real leverage over israel. it just falls to biden to actually do it. >> but what you just commented on, what netanyahu knows, biden is facing pressure from some progressives and some in the democratic party for not exercising that leverage that he's got. if he were to, what happens then? >> well, i think there's blow- back either way. so at a certain point, you have to kind of make a decision, based on reality and leadership. not that political calculations are important. especially given the existential threat in the november elections. but i think, look, you have chuck schumer, basically

talking about netanyahu as an obstacle of peace. you have a huge amount of opposition to this israeli government, among jews, the vast majority of whom are democrats. so either way, because this is an issue that divides the democratic party. either way, there's going to be some fallout. but i think the fallout -- there is the fallout from not acting is humanitarian catastrophe. the only thing i would disagree with you, when you said over a million people might be on the brink of starvation. they're on the brink of starvation now. i'm sure you know, by the time they actually declare a famine, it is going too late to save many of these people. and then i also think, just in terms of our national security. the idea kind of showing strength can sometimes be overrated in american politics. but there's something kind of pathetic about having israel that is so dependent, or at

least so willing, such a massive recipient of american aid, being so defiant of the wishes and the demands of the american government. >> you make an interesting point. the chuck schumer stuff. the speech he made last week, may have been lost on some people. it's remarkable. chuck schumer, going out on that much of a limb, to criticize benjamin netanyahu. he's the highest elected person. he was not critical of israel the country. he was simply critical of netanyahu. just in short of asking him to resign. but he did ask for a new leader. >> nigh guess is that chuck shum does not go out and give a speech like that, without giving a heads up to the white house. i think that at this point, netanyahu has been obviously an obstacle. or his government is an obstacle to getting humanitarian aid to gaza.

and also, here's an obstacle to any sort of plan for the day after, which is one reason why they are -- there's a lot of reasons they are quickly losing support in the united states and around the world. but one is because there's no -- there's no end to this on the horizon. there's no day after. >> michelle, thank you as always. it's good to see you, my friend. michelle goldberg is an opinion columnist for the "new york times." that is our show for tonight. it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, ally. and you can help me with this. i don't know much about the stock market. says here, dow jones, 39,512. nasdaq, 16,329. besides those numbers, all-time high. >> imagine that, right? this was the stock market that was tanking because donald trump is