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threatening a quote, blood blood blood bath if he doesn't win in 2024. that was just one weekend, the first full weekend since the general election matchup became official, and it all happened in the course of a single campaign rally. here is trump in ohio. >> we are going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line and you're not going to be able to sell those. if i get elected. now, if i don't get elected, it'll be a bloodbath, that will be the least of it. it'll be a bloodbath for the country. that will be the least of it but they will not sell those cars. >> trump's bloodbath, and comes amid a campaign in which he has vowed to be a, quote, dictator to rivals and to seek, quote, retribution which is why his critics are skeptical that

campaigns cleanup effort claiming trump was trying to say, quote, biden's policies would create an economic bloodbath for the economic industry and the autoworkers. >> the campaign was forced to respond because the bloodbath comments were a big story and a lead story on major newscasts. >> trump's campaign now on the defensive, warning while discussing the economy there would be a, quote, bloodbath if he's not reelected in november. >> for an hour and a half, he delivered bizarre remarks parroting language used by hitler pay >> he knew what he was doing, we are not stupid. americans aren't stupid. he was talking about a bloodbath, sometimes a bloodbath means a bloodbath. >> the rally started with a different and troubling scene in which trump saluted convicted january 6th rioters.

>> ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the horribly and unfairly treated january 6th hostages. ♪ oh say can you see ♪ >> you see the spirit from the hostages, that's what they are, hostages. they've been treated terribly and fairly unfairly, you know that, everybody knows that. and we are going to be working on that, the first day we get into office, we are going to save our country. >> trump in bracing the terrace while finding a new toxins race equate to attack immigrants and singing off key. he has ranted during the campaign about quote, vermin you are poisoning the blood of the country, language which echoes nazi rhetoric, he calls

them animals that are not people. >> i would do the same thing. if i had prisons that were teaming with ms 13 and all sorts of people that, they've got to take care of for the next 50 years, young people, they are in jail for years and you're, if you call them people. in some cases, they are not people in my opinion. these are bad, these are animals. >> is vile, antidemocratic and it's out in the open. as trump tries to get a second term through racist appeals and violent threats, joining me to discuss is brittany cooper, professor with rutgers university and, democratic strategist and pollster and msnbc political analyst. britney, thank you for being here tonight.

i have to start with this because i think this is really important. i don't talk about trump being a racist, we know that. it's not shocking but i do think his use of violent rhetoric is important. and i want to ask you, when you hear him say terms like let bath, it's similar to, if you hear jeffrey dahmer say i'm going to eat you alive on the basketball court, it's not a metaphor. when you have trump who has talked about and encouraged violence, it's not metaphorical, right? >> that's part of the problem. so, when those who are his supporters when they hear him, they empty out the rhetoric to tell themselves that he is just speaking in hyperbole but what we know is that this is a man who has already fomented an insurrection and he has been fomenting an insurrection again, he setting the same conditions that he set for january 6th so we will have more violence and he has also been creating a context in which these people feel like they are victims, feel like

their grievances are relevant and should be adjudicated, apparently in the form of violent so they feel and leslie justified but the question that i have is, why do we have a significant swath of the country that is so ready to give the democracy away for a man who is a criminal, has been civilly held liable for rape, he's a terrible businessman, we understand so much of the money he claimed to have made, he made it through fraud. he doesn't believe in democratic processes and yet, they claim they are taking the country back but really, they are -bent on giving away anything that we have fought for as a country. and i think we've got to ask, what is appealing about a dictator to people who very much believe in democratic process? >> frankly, britney is probably a lot more optimistic than me, it's because i think there's a large swath of americans who don't believe in democracy or

the democratic project if anybody other than white straight people get to participate. my question to you is, are these types of rallies, is this kind of rhetoric, is actually breaking through to anything other than the maga base, we are constantly hearing nonsense from non-trained people that black folks and latinos are suddenly rushing to the republican party, does this rhetoric help, does your polling show what he calls people vermin and said there will be a bloodbath after november if he doesn't win, is there somebody who is hearing that and things i will vote for trump or now. >> to your question i think the polling to speak to the fact that there is a large waffles americans that are tuned out to anything that has to do with this campaign, this election, this back and forth and that's the most terrifying thing because as i conduct focus groups, one of the reference i keep hearing over and over again and to me, this is the

nightmare scenario what i'm about to tell you right now. i hear this in every single group among disciplines and they say, yeah, trump is out there, i don't like him, he says bad things but the truth of the matter is, things didn't cost as much when he was president and i was doing better economically, so the idea that there's this normalization, the banality of wtf as i like to say, it doesn't penetrate as much anymore and part of it is because of the normalization and i hate to say it, a lot of folks in the media are doing, treating this like a horse race coverage between two candidates running for president when the truth of the matter is, donald trump is more dangerous today than at any point in his life, much more dangerous now than when he was president because during the first term there were at least some safeguards around him that we saw, folks came out and try to stop him.

now he doesn't feel he has any accountability, he can say whatever he wants, what's he going to say next but he can be a dictator on day one, wait a minute, he said that, too. that's why the stakes are so scary and finally, the polling shows not only is he more dangerous than ever, he is very credible as a candidate that can win in november, jason. >> that's the terrible part. i want to play the soundbite to you, brittany, i want to get your thoughts on the other side. >> why do you use words like vermin and poisoning of the blood, the press, as you know, they react by saying, that's the same kind of language that hitler and miscellany say pay >> i didn't know that but that's what they say. our country is being poisoned. >> britney, look, i can say 200 people, that's what hitler said and they won't care one way or another because to them this is all theoretical and abstract but

to fernand's point, why are we not hearing more, not just from the press but from the democratic party, why do we not hear elected officials, why do we not hear more retired generals, why do we not hear so many more pundits coming out and saying, hey, nobody should talk like this and still be running for president. that's my question to you. >> the thing that was most compelling about that was when he said i didn't know that they said that, it's a logic, white supremacy dehumanizes groups of people and is based on this idea of the purity and supremacy of whiteness but the thing is, jason, folks don't know that if you live in a country that is banning books, banning the proper teaching of history and civics, people don't have any way to contextualize the threat of trump and many americans feel like we are insulated from the ability of fascism to actually show up on our stores and erode whatever democratic project or semblance of it that we have left that we are trying to engage in. the other side is that the one party we have that is defending democracy, we can have president biden using terms like illegal, even as a gaffe,

and the state of the union address because that means that that is his impulse to think of them as illegal and he has to do a thing to get to the other side of it. the other thing is that we've got as a country, to do a better job of contextualizing where we were with trump. things were not better, we were locked down in the house for years because this man mismanaged a pandemic for nine months and told us that we could use household disinfectant to treat something that we lost over 1 million americans four. we weren't doing better economically, people struggled during that time. and so we have to become more empathetic and say, groceries are high. gas is high but people are working, and the same things that drove us to the polls in 2022 reject this project have to continue to drive us. we have to continue to be vigilant. if we don't, he is play looking

for us, he's giving us the playbook of who will come after. it's immigrants, people of color . he was locking babies in cages as a matter of formal policy. he bad muslim folks in this country as his first act as president. he will do that and he will do even more. this is a man who likes words like poison, american carnage, like mud bath. those are not metaphors, that is the intellectual universe in which he lives. one of violence, decay, one of death and that's what he hopes to produce. >> fernand, i've got to ask you this quick. this is important for polling, when we hear trump talk the way he was talking, now he will claim that the bloodbath had to do with the auto industry. he will claim that the violence is emotional or political violence as opposed to people shooting up buildings and attempting to kidnap governors and things like that but i think as a political scientist, i think there's always an

economic element. but i'm curious, it seems to me we are at a point now where people's perceptions of the economy are driven by their existing ideology because you are lying to yourself if you say that you are better off in 2020 that you are now. but people who are predisposed to like trump will say that. have we reached a point where economics alone are not going to be a driver for how people vote this fall? >> yes, we have. people are deluding themselves. they say we want our jobs, low unemployment rate, higher wages, guess what, all of those things have happened in historic numbers under the eye, but will keep using reasons to offramp why they can't come all the way across and support biden and denounce this wannabe dictator on day one. that clip, that was shameful, why are we giving donald trump opportunities to say, are you really a bad man, why do you say the evil things you do, when he has this animalistic

pro wrestling persona that he's is going to play the heel and people will understand the dissension. this race does not need to be about biden versus trump, it needs to be about saving freedom and democracy as opposed to turning it over to totalitarian fashions which is what the maga movement is. >> thank you for first starting us off. i really appreciate you both. coming up, we will talk to michael, about the presence of trump's attack on democracy also, our live interview with senator alfonso butler, and the fight to protect women's rights. all that plus the strange return of paul manafort. we are back in just just 60 seconds.

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wrote, and he said exactly what he would do and i don't think donald trump could write a book but he's giving it to us, verbally. >> that was former republican governor christine todd whitman, reacting to trump's dangerous rhetoric in addition to what we've already covered, the ex-president had an ominous warning, should he lose the election, again. >> if this election isn't won, i'm not sure you will ever have another election in this country. i don't think you would have another election in this country if we don't win this election. >> trump saying it twice there, making sure we understand, but this goes well beyond his rallies, as he lashes out online, too, taking another page from the authoritarian playbook, he's calling for liz cheney to be prosecuted and sent to jail for her role in

the legal investigation of january 6th. so, in just one weekend, trump talk of ending all elections, dehumanizing minorities and jailing political opponents all of which have very dire historical precedents. joining me now to discuss is michael, nbc news presidential historian, thank you for joining us this evening. this is the thing. this is what always gets me about trump is that there is a tendency of the 24 hour news cycle to jump from statement to statement, but cannot connect them to how this is absolutely in line with any other wannabe dictator throughout history as he's getting closer and closer to the election, do you expect him to continue to ratchet this up? so far he hasn't face any consequences and how have we seen this, have there been other examples of people saying well wait a minute, it's

basically homeland or the boys, nobody's going to get me in trouble, is that what we can expect for the next couple of months? >> we can, jason. going all the way back to 1789 when george washington was elected the first president, we have never ever seen a major party nominee as donald trump is, going to be, say anything like this, bloodbath, dictatorship. he was saying no elections about joe biden to normalize this. a lot of our readers have read george orwell's book, 1984 and that's about a dictatorship and they try and drain scary and dangerous words of their meaning and they say things like freedom is slavery and war is peace. and ignorance is strength, and the other thing is, he's trying to say these things not only to telegraph what he might do but so that in the fall if let's

say joe biden's campaign does as it's already begun to do say, you elect donald trump, you will lose your democracy. donald trump can muddy the word of democracy, that threat will not be very great, same things with things like bloodbath or suspending the constitution or pinning the pentagon under his political enemies, if he says this enough, i don't think he's that shrewd but he's got shrewd people around him, you muddy this and you throw these words into the air, by the fall, when it should be one issue, biden and democracy or trump and dictatorship, this is one way of muddying it up a >> michael, one of the failures i've seen, it takes two sides for democracy to end, you have to have the people who want to end democracy and you have to have somebody else who's asleep at the wheel who doesn't take it seriously. i've been critical of what i have felt to be a failure on

the part of the biden administration to make this threat clear, two weeks ago when president biden said, i challenge trump to come to the white house and work on immigration like wait a minute, either he's a dangerous threat to democracy or he's not. he shouldn't be anywhere else near the white house unless he is in chains. we have any precedent for a functional democracy sitting the way our administration has, in the face of an impending coup and not taking it seriously. i don't feel that our administration takes these threats as seriously as those of us will suffer if donald trump gets back into office. >> there are two moments that have parallel and one would be 1860 where lincoln as you and i both know was running for president the first time, and said the house can't stand half slave and half free and said that two years earlier and he was suggesting that if he became president in order to enforce his constitutional oath to keep the union together, there might be a civil war and so there was, it was bloodied and it was terrible and in the late 1930s, you have people like the radio priest from

detroit, fascist organizations, organizations that were allied with hitler in the late 1930s that were trying to overthrow the government of the united states, franklin roosevelt called it, said to americans in 1940 and 1941, this is a danger, we've got to have a country under full freedoms. >> i have to play you this quick sound, again from howard kurtz on fox news and get your thoughts on the other side. >> do you believe putin has some responsibility for the death of alexi of all the? >> i don't know, perhaps. have a good relationship with them, you have to know your opponent or your enemy or your friends. >> trump has always said that he wants to befriend other dictators other world leaders who would stay in power for 30 years, has also not been the case that most presidents tried to ask you even being

photographed with dictators whereas we have a republican nominee now who will fight over people to get an autograph of putin. is there no precedent for this, right? >> we as scholars have to say that we are going to an experience that this country has never seen before. it may end this year in democracy were all sorts of people in this country will have their rights taken away and worse, that's what at issue, if we allow donald trump to succeed in making it seem as if nothing important is at stake than people who you and i know, love their rights, love democracy, love american history, most of it, will not have to say that, they will

just say there's no difference between trump and biden. all i'm saying is, you and i are totally agree that you know, from now until the election in november, we've all got to say, the only issue is democracy versus dictatorship, don't let them take it away. >> thank you so much, thank you so much for joining us and sounding the alarm everybody needs to hear. >> be well. later in the show, new action from biden on abortion rights. the democrats finally on the offense, also, trump eyes convicted felon paul manafort for his campaign. wasn't that the law and order party? order party? meet the traveling trio. the thrill seeker.

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to paraphrase destiny's child, can you pay your bills? can you pay your fraud bills? felony bills? maybe letitia james what a chill but i don't think you can, because trump is clearly not that man. his fraud loss is appearing to be a blow to his much smaller than he wants to admit, his wallet. one week before bond is due, trump is admitting, he don't have the cash, he's claiming despite his diligent effort securing a bond in the full amount is quote, a practical impossibility saying they unsuccessfully approached 30 surety companies through four separate brokers on the bond

companies would not accept hard assets such as real estate as collateral, only cash equivalents which trump's team said the required cash reserves with near $1 billion which if we took his word for him, he famously bragged about his net worth during his deposition in this case. >> i don't need the money, we have a lot of cash. i believe the brand is worth more than all the properties put together. if i wanted to show you a good statement, i would have added maybe $10 billion or something for the brand. a lot of cash, i believe. some substantially excess of $400 billion. >> the problem is they are asking for dollars not rubles. the republican candidate find himself in a significant financial crunch. the new york times said trump is, quote, scrambling to raise

cash calling the financial disparity between the two candidates, the quote, most pressing issue facing the trump campaign. has married of legal fees and losses is already costing him about $600 million. the fraud loss including interest, the bulk of the bill. if trump is unable to come up with the money, attorney general james says she will seek further action and sees his assets. joining me now to discuss is glenn kershner, host of the podcast, justice matters. look, we can all laugh about the fact that donald trump is broke and laugh about the fact that his assets aren't as big as they were. or the fact that he has defrauded multiple people and now he's finally paying the piper but here's my immediate concern. is there any precedent for someone showing this much money in so many different places, still being allowed to walk free? i guess there's a part of me that wonders how he can owes so much money for so many heinous

crimes and he's still not serving any jail time, am i crazy for thinking that or is this a normal process when you go over $600 million? >> this is all a civil fraud matter, all of these massive money judgment so ordinarily that's not going to result in somebody being incarcerated, jason, we can certainly talk about his bloodbath comment and given that he is on pretrial release and for felony prosecutions, it seems like he should be revoked on release and detained pending trial because he is a danger to the community indeed, to our democracy and the law provides that if you pose a danger to even one person in the community when you're in a pretrial release status, you should be revoked and detained but that's beside the point. the civil fraud judgments right now, you know, i credit this new court filing from donald trump. i wouldn't recommend it to anybody unless they enjoy legal action but it's remarkable that even on page 2, he won't give up the con, he continues to live.

he actually says yes, i understand that court valued mar-a-lago at $18 million to $27.6 million, but he said, but, it is in fact, worth 50 to 100 times that amount. now this is a guy, who was just found liable for massive civil fraud in this case in which he makes that assertion. this is also a guy who is organization that there's his name, was convicted of 17 felony counts for being involved in a 15 year long scheme to defraud in the first degree and he continues to offer these same lies which i guess is equal parts astonishing and fully part expecting but when you read through this new court filing, and he says things like, it's a

practical impossibility to get a bond to cover this amount, when he says we've got to 30 companies, and they will not do bond business with us, he says we went to one of the world's largest insurance companies and they would not issue a bond, what the reader needs to insert, after everyone of those clauses is, because donald trump isn't as rich as he has always fraudulently asserted he is. this is a problem of his own making, and the new york attorney general is just waiting in the wings, another 10 days and then, i predict, she's going to begin seizing his assets, to satisfy this money judgment, that she won't on behalf of the people of new york. >> glenn, i'm curious about this, stepping back and looking at this as a political issue. what i found compelling is the idea that this amount of debt on donald trump, is also of

course, going to start sapping away from fundraising for the republican party. now that he's basically made the republican party a extension of his legal team, they may literally, if they start paying his bills directly and indirectly his fraud, his fees, they don't have the money to field campaign staff to run against joe biden this fall. is that something that is being taken into consideration, has trump or any of his legal team thought about the fact that his inability to pay bills may result in him being a less powerful candidate running this fall? >> that's a great point. this is probably in part while he commandeered the rnc so they can pay his legal bills, his fines, his discouragement. and, that is going to hurt the republican party, republican candidates, donald trump doesn't care if you hurt democrats, republicans, independent voters are people with no affiliation, all trump cares about is donald trump. but you know he is probably going to drain the rnc dry, and that will be to the detriment of other republicans running for office. >> thank you so much for

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today president biden signed an executive order designed to boost women's health research. more than 20 new actions and $20 million in funding, for the national institutes of health. it's part of a cohesive message from democrats, women's health matters, including and not limited to, healthcare. as the vice president talked about last week during her historic visit to a minnesota planned parenthood. >> it's only right and fair that people have access to the healthcare they need, and that they have access to healthcare in an environment where they are treated with dignity and respect. everyone get ready for the language, uterus. issues like fibroids, we can handle this. breast cancer screenings, contraceptive care.

>> if you can't connect with that kind of politician, there's something wrong with you. meanwhile republicans have had two years since the supreme court overturned roe versus wade but can't figure out where they actually stand on the issue of abortion. >> i think life should be protected all the way through. >> we need to have more kids. >> ivf is used to have more children. >> that's for another conversation. >> are you comfortable with ivf as a procedure? >> ivf is so critical to a lot of couples that helps them breed great families. >> embryos to me, our babies. >> you can believe anything you want about how life begins and how it should end. >> absolute nonsense. next week, the supreme court with his conservative and highly questionable super majority will hear oral arguments on access to medical abortion. just as the court's most recent alumni stephen breyer is sounding the alarm over the courts lurch to the right warning the justices, quote, way

may well be concerned about the decline and trust in the court. joining me to discuss his democratic senator butler before she was appointed to the senate last year, she served as the president of emily's list, an organization dedicated to electing women candidates. it's in honor to have you on the beat tonight. i have to ask this question i've been figuring out a way that i can ask this that you can't wiggle out of. you've been in the senate, you decided you would not run, the democrats have their likely candidate now, who will be elected this fall, do you have any regrets, do you look back at the work that you've done in the senate and think maybe i should have gotten into this fight or are you satisfied with your decision still? >> not one regret at all, and i'm so happy to be with you, jason, thank you for having me. california voters have made their decision on their candidates that they are going

to be considering in the general election. my job, as asked by governor newsom is to represent california in the interim. i'm excited about doing it. i'm honored to follow in the seat of senator feinstein, there's a lot of work to be done and i'm not going to waste a single minute and i will make every day count. >> senator butler, now that you will be leaving, when you have your post senate life, is there anything, are there major lessons that you've learned, you've been in the belly of the beast. when you are out there you will be advocatingimportant issues, is there something you understand now about lobbying that you didn't really have a full understanding of before you were in the senate? >> yeah, i appreciate the question. one thing that i will take with me is an obvious but has become much more clear to me now that

i'm in the proverbial belly, and that is, california farmers have a lot in common with iowa farmers and a lot of things in common with montana farmers and when there's a mental health crisis in california, that's also true in alabama, also true in wisconsin, so the lesson for me is to take nothing for granted, to approach every issue as if it was a possibility of building common ground, not just in the halls of congress but amongst the people of our country and to be able to have those connected conversations is critically important. >> you've been in the senate during a time where it's been absolutely crucial that essentially, it's a bulwark

against this sort of stripping of rights from the incredibly conservative and highly problematic supreme court. what are things you are most proud of, and where do you think the fight is now for protecting women's rights and women's reproductive rights heading into 2024? >> you know, jason, i am most proud of how this country has shown up, how the women of this country have shown up, ever since the dobbs decision was made final, and in every attempt in every way possible, the women of this country and the men, who also support reproductive freedom have made a clear and declarative statement to lawmakers, that they stand for women being able to make these decisions with their families, they stand for freedom, whether it is at the election in the ballot box, and places like ohio, or, it is in the space of advocacy and activism, those who have taken action online or in their high schools are on their college campuses, i'm so proud of how this country has been very clear that we stand for freedom and democracy, and that is the lesson for me, that we have to govern with and on behalf of the voice of the majority of our country.

>> so, we have a former justice breyer, who has talked about, he's now off the bench and he is sounding the alarm basically saying, there are too many questions, are we really going to allow women to die on the table because they won't allow abortion which would save a life? nobody would do that and there will be dozens of questions like that. what he is basically saying is that the supreme court is now out of whack. we have questions about ethics, they don't seem to be representing what the majority of the country once anymore, they sting to be adjudicating from the bench. as someone who is an advocate for women's reproductive rights, what do you think is an option still on the table, for this administration were future administrations to rein in the supreme court because clearly, they will continue to pass legislation that is at odds with the american people unless someone does something about it. >> first of all thanks to justice breyer, he is

continuing to help the country benefit from years of experience and public service in jurisprudence, so thanks to him for continuing to sound the alarm. you know, i think that what we have to do is think about not just this court or this legislative body and session, but for future legislative bodies and future courts. and what we've got to start to have a real conversation about, the modernization of our institutions, the modernizations of the construct of the supreme court. we've got to today, start to pass legislation to protect women's rights and protect these essential freedoms, in our legislature, in our laws, to make sure that those things are clear and we are not just rely on court decisions to make americans know what their rights actually are, and codifying those rights is critically important. it's why patty murray and other senate leaders have been working to pass and do the work to protect other things like

you know, like the work of my colleague, senator duckworth and her attempt to introduce legislation to protect ivf and the freedom to have access to that kind of healthcare, so, it's about to me, legislating and leaving for the moment that we are in, and doing so with the future in mind. >> i have to ask you about this, we just introduced a new bill, give us a quick break down . >> quick break down really quick, 41% of lgbtq you have seriously considered suicide last year. 14% attempted it at only one in three mental health facilities actually have lgbtq services for adolescents, if we want to solve the problem, we've got to make sure we have the infrastructure and resources available for our young leaders to be able to live their best

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manafort taking after his former boss, publicly claiming his conviction was, quote, purely political. >> so you believe it was completely political? >> 100%. i was convicted in the court of public opinion before the trial even opened. i didn't commit the crimes i was accused of. >> fact check, that's completely false. manafort was convicted by a jury on fraud charges. and later pled guilty to charges including conspiracy to defraud the united states. so trump's determination to bring him back on the trail is nothing short of alarming, but not that surprising. we'll be right back with "one more thing."

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