robert kennedy jrs's independent bid for president, mocking his short list for running mate. it's topped by former minnesota governor and professional wrestler jesse ventura and nfl quarterback aaron rodgers, a conspiracy theorist. >> kennedy confirmed rodgers and ventura are at the top of his list, which really makes you wonder who's at the bottom. >> that's a risky move to pick rodgers. if we learn one thing, the minute he starts running, he's going to snap his achilles. >> aaron rodgers and jesse ventura are not running mates. they're who bookers on the masked singer call. >> this would be the greatest president and vice president pair of all times is what i'm assuming the measles is saying. >> kennedy says he'll announce his running mate later this month. tomorrow on the katie phang show, former trump attorney michael cohen will join me on the latest in that election interference hush money trial that's now been delayed. that's tomorrow on the katie

phang show at 12:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> you're confused. you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. >> correct. but from the beginning, the right has tried to make trump's georgia election interference trial all about d.a. fani willis. and today, the judge found no actual conflict of interest, but did manage to gratuitously impugn her integrity. >> also tonight, we need to have a serious reality check about the right-wing propaganda that trump is somehow gaining historic levels of support among black voters. he wishes. but we begin tonight with

the most american of realities. if you're a rich white guy and especially if you're a celebrity and a former president, not only are you above the law, you are so above the law that if you get indicted for trying to overturn an election and thus overthrow the government, that case isn't even about you. today, fulton county superior court judge scott mcafee ruled that fulton county d.a. fani willis will not be disqualified from prosecuting the racketeering case against donald trump. trump tried it. it didn't work. his case will be prosecuted in georgia. maga inc. failed to prove a conflict of interest, perhaps because there was no conflict of interest. but in making that ruling, judge mcafee, a federalist society aluminous managed to still help donald trump. ruling that because of a so-called appearance of impropriety, either fani willis

or the special prosecutor must step down from the case. and so special assistant district attorney nathan wade resigned from the case just hours after the decision, writing, quote, i'm offering my resignation in the interest of democracy, in dedication to the american public, and to move this case forward as quickly as possible. make no mistake, this was a victory for fani willis, since the rico case against trump and his fellow defendants will go on. but the judge's decision also came with a strong rebuke of willis', quote, lapse in judgment. this is where we need to pause. fani willis' lapse in judgment? defense attorneys argue willis should have been removed from the case because of her relationship with wade, with whom she hired in november of 2021. but let's remember what this case is actually about. willis has charged trump and 18 codefendants with racketeering for their alleged actions in

trying to overturn the 2020 election. four have taken guilty pleas. but today, what we got to do in america was ask questions about willis and wade. when their romantic relationship began, where they traveled and how much they paid for dinner, and about the woman prosecutors alleged had bad judgment. we're talking about everybody except the guy who tried to overthrow the government. the guy who in a taped call vaguely threatened georgia's republican secretary of state and pressured him to steal an election. >> all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> it's a bizarre world. bizarre, yet predictable. trump is either the luckiest guy in the world or this country was built for rich men like him to

thrive. two things can be true. only in america can a case against a white man trying to overthrough an election morph into a debate about a black woman's consensual relationship and the vacations she took. judge mcafee said willis' relationship raised the appearance of impropriety. an odor of mendacity remains. he also explained willis' speech before an historically black church as improper because she accused of her critic. what does that have to do about the rico case against trump and his co-defendants? nothing. except that mcafee is up for re-election. he faces primary challengers. for a conservative judge, one who reduced the counts against trump last week and part of his mead craw tour appeared last week on a talk radio show hosted by a conservative trump fan while we were all awaiting his decision, no odor of mendacity

there, i suppose. i mean, if you can't give trump an outright win by throwing out the case since the law gives you no reason to do that, what better way to still be helpful than to give trump and his right-wing media friends some talking points. he couldn't find anything unlawful about fani willis and her consensual relationship, so instead, he festooned his decision with gratuitous critiques of her behavior, tone policing her attitude, and level of black lady sassiness, certainly helpful for his political future and certainly helpful for trump and the right-wing slime machine who can continue to try to make this case about fani willis. if i'm being honest, it's giving special counsel robert hur, the self declared republican prosecutor who threw in g gratuitous gruteaks of president biden's age and memory, while explaining his decision not to prosecute him for keeping classified documents.

like mr. hur, judge mcafee put a right wing spin on his decision that didn't need to be there. and it rose like a delicious foam for the maga cult to devour. today, america is breathilously debating fani willis and not the adjudicated sexual abuser who defrauded banks and insurers, stole classified information and hid it in his bathroom and has half a billion in legal debt that his brokest voters will pay for him and who still, despite all that, faces zero accountability in america. clearly which was built for men like him. the man who long ago said this about sexually abusing women, but which also seems to apply to every other criminal thing he has done. >> it's like a magnet. i don't even wait. when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. grab them by the [ bleep ]. you can do anything. >> when you're a star, you can

do anything. if there is one thing that trump ever said that is true, it's that. joining me now is paul butler, msnbc legal analyst and a former federal prosecutor and katie phang, trial attorney and host of the katie phang show. friends, i just have to play for you, because earlier today on morning joe, adnan spoke my feelings because i have been all in my feelings about this all morning. my poor team. i have been all deep in my feelings about what's happening in georgia. let me let you listen to "morning joe." >> this is a case about racketeering and not racketeering to like make some money behind a laundromat. this is a case about racketeering to end american democracy. and yes, there are people in that d.a.'s office who as flawed human beings got into a loving relationship and took some trips.

these are people who are normal human beings who made mistakes who are to remind us all, up against someone who tried to end american democracy, which is the substance of the case. >> katie, i want to let you go first. because i feel like the woman of color in this case, even the media commentary on it, is still putting her on trial instead of the defendants. let's put the mugshots up. these are the people on trial, katie. your thoughts. >> and that's what fani willis tried to refocus and recenter the conversation on when she was forced to take the stand to defend herself, and i want to say that although she waved any objection to a subpoena to testify, did she really ever have options left? because when you're under attack and your personal character is being assailed in a case to adnan's point, has nothing to do with her personal life, she had to take the stand.

when she did, she said i'm not on trial. i'm not on trial, those people that tried to steal the 2020 election, they're on trial. and she didn't say it, but we all heard it, and don't you forget it. she was saying that to judge mcafee and to america. my biggest concern about this evidentiary hearing from day one was the blanket allowance of the weaponization of the judicial system to conduct a smear campaign. and that's exactly what the bread and butter is for michael ro00, the gop operative who is a defendant in this case. he's being prosecuted for state rico and other charges. that is how he rolls. and so that is exactly why we ended up having a multi-day, multi-hour evidentiary hearing about the personal lives of nathan wade and fani willis. the undercurrent of reality that a lot of people don't feel comfortable talking about is the following. i don't disagree if you're a prosecutor, you should be held to a standard, and a very exacting one and i believe paul would agree with me on this. you should be held to an

exacting standard. you hold the liberty of people in your hands. you should be the very best you are as a lawyer, especially if you're a prosecutor. the undercurrent of conversation people are not having is the idea that if you listen to the commentary, it always devolved into the fact, did she take the cash and did she run to the atm with it? and what did she do with that cash, and cash boxes in your home? who has that cash in your home? it was the devolution of something that should have been up here. it should have been here. and so the thing that happened with the mcafee ruling from today was, he could have ended the analysis at there was no actual conflict of interest because the law would have protected that for him, and he could have stayed in the safe space and said the burden wasabout met by the dfls, which he did say, and because of that, i'm not going to disqualify either of these prosecutors. but he didn't. and by going that one step further, going into the land of

the georgia state bar, for example, going into that space and saying that there was all of this wrongdoing, he not only gave kerosene on the gop and the trump world and maga, but he also then created as he noted that quote, odor of -- i don't even remember -- >> mendacity. >> mendacity in which people tried to look it up would say it stinks. isn't that what he said? he's trying to say something stinks here. i think that in doing so, he never really allowed fani willis to cure that defect. he said you can cure this defect if one of your steps down. but when you label it that way, you don't allow really for the curing of any defect, do you? so then you allow this prosecution to continue tainted based upon the use of that language. >> not only that. he went so far, paul, in his order, while he is, again, saying that she did nothing wrong, they found no wrongdoing. but what he then does is suggest

other places that trump's friends and friends and trump himself might want to go. he talks about the state legislature, about the bar. he's serving up fani willis for more adjudication, that maybe you should go after her law license, maybe take her to court. maybe she didn't tell the truth on the stand, suggesting alternatives because he can't do anything about it. to me, it is giving a hur. he's saying i'm still on your team, let me help you. because i can't actually -- i can't twist the law to help you, boss they didn't break the law, but let me give you some suggestions. i found that offensive. your thoughts. >> i agree. i want to cosign what you said in the setup, joy. two things can be true at once. so it's true that black women prosecutors like d.a. willis are challenged more than anybody else. not because they're incompetent but because they're black women.

and some people like donald trump have a problem with that. remember, d.a. willis and nathan wade have done a lot right. they persuaded two grand juries the charges were wanted. they got four defendants to plead guilty. but the other true thing in this case is that d.a. willis messed up. when she entered her romantic relationship with somebody whose paycheck she signed. so the judge was able to criticize her tremendous lack in judgment, that's what he said, he said her testimony was unprofessional and she made bad choices. and i agree, it was gratuitous. he went out of his way to say that she may face consequences from the state ethics commission, the georgia bar, and the voters of fulton county. even though at the same time, he acknowledged that the defense had not proven that ms. willis'

conduct prejudiced anybody's right to a fair trial. >> by the way, he also is facing the voters, and he went on a right-wing radio show of a trump fan, one might question the propriety of that. i'm going to say that as well. i also want to ask you, katie, about these other two pieces of information that we got today. that is these two things. the two letters. this was the offer to resign and the acceptance of resigning. this is from wade -- from the wade campbell firm and also from fani willis' office. nathan wade writes, and i think this is important to note, that in taking the job, he says you the team on this case and the entire office have my prayers for your safety and the success in the pursuit of justice. because she also talks about the fact that he took the case in the first place, i compliment you, she writes, for the professionalism and dignity you have shown as you have endured threats against you and your

family as well as the unjustified attacks in the media, in court, and your reputation as a lawyer. she also reminds people in her letter that she attempted to give the job, and so does he in his order, this judge, to someone else, the former governor of the state who wouldn't take the job because he was too afraid of maga. too afraid of facing them and the death threats. he knew what would come. nathan wade took the job when no one else had the courage to take it. that isn't talked about enough either. she didn't pick him because he was her boyfriend. she picked him because a former governor didn't have the cajones to do it. >> nathan wade wasn't her first choice. that was clear. that's uncontroverted evidence. and msnbc has reporting the reason we didn't get the ruling until today, even though judge mcafee had prepared the ruling is because he, the judge and his family, have been receiving death threats, so they wanted to have adequate security set up so

judge mcafee would be safe. this case is completely tainted with the idea that if somebody tries to stand up to do the right thing, they're going to get a death threat. we heard that from fani willis, we heard it from fani willis' father. i love paul butler, and because i love him i'm going to disagree with him in the following way and with respect. there was zero evidence that fani willis did anything wrong. no evidence. judge mcafee said there was no material financial benefit that was realized by fani willis. he said that there was no conflict of interest because she would have never started in the prosecution to benefit herself. he made it clear there was nothing wrong that she did. that in and of itself could have ceased the analysis, and that could have been the end of it. it didn't have to go any further. what is the hypocrisy that really bothers me is this purity test that has to be applied to everyone else but the

republicans. it's this purity test that you have to pass if you are not a member of the gop. and to that point, it's letitia james and fani willis that are always the ones that get more scrutiny because of who they are, but if you're a republican it's okay because you can grab them by the you know what and get away with it. >> kavanaugh on the supreme court, paul butler, cried, screamed, had a breakdown in front of the world, and no one questioned whether his comportment in that hearing meant he was unfit to be on the supreme court. clarence thomas and sam alito have taken what really looked like bribes from billionaires to take them on fancy vacations. they sit on cases in which they shouldn't. his wife is an insurrectionist. he didn't feel he had to recuse. no one says these men made mistakes. i lovingly disagree with you as well. what mistake did she make? people meet on the job all the time. they date people on the job all the time. this is not an unusual thing.

is it the best decision? i don't know. it doesn't seem like it worked out very well. but that has nothing to do with the rico case, sir. i'm going to give you the last word. >> my friends joy and katie, i'm going to very respectfully disagree. when d.a. willis was running, she ran against a sitting prosecutor who was embroiled in a sexual harassment lawsuit. he ultimately was successful, but d.a. willis said she would never be in a relationship with anybody who worked for her, when she broke that rule, she opened herself up. this was in a sense a self-inflicted wound. and in that way, it was a success for the defense. i don't think they ever really expected the case would be dismissed. that's always a long shot after a grand jury indictment, but what the defense accomplished is

dragging d.a. willis and her lead prosecutor through the mud, treating the prosecutors like they were criminal defendants. and more importantly, the defense got the lead prosecutor kicked off the case. and the judge implied he would be open to a gag order that would apply to the d.a.'s office but not the defense. so trump would be able to say whatever he wanted and d.a. willis would not be able to respond. so in a sense, i wish she hadn't gone down this road in that sense, it is a self-inflicted wound. >> okay, i wish we could do this for the rest of the hour. we have to go. we're way over. we can fight it out on social media later. i appreciate you both. >> coming up next on "the reidout," truly what is up with this narrative that's trying to sell us on the idea that black voters are flocking en masse to trump. they love trump. we'll get to the bottom of that with a couple actual experts next. starting a business is never easy, but starting it eight months pregnant... that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up.

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we're now in the midst of an every four year reachual, we're told black voters are on a cycle to switch to republicans. this year's version is fueled by a number of hot takes from your resident blexit proponents. super experts on the blacks. and they're getting backup from a recent "new york times" sienna poll that included 119 voters. single cookout. which shows 23% of black voters

are preparing tovote for donald trump in november. that would be an historic swing for black voters who have consistently backed democratic presidential candidates starting in the 1930s. in farct, no republican candidate has received that kind ofblock voter support since eisenhower. we have seen no evidence that trump has become the new eisenhower. based on what? what did he do to become the new eisenhower. please explain. that said, there have been a plethora of articles telling us trump is different. the blacks just love him. in an attempt tune pack all of this, we invited two women who have spent a lot of time actually talking to black voters trying to figure out what is top of mind and if trump is actually convincing black folk to upend decades of history to vote republican. joining me is adrienne shopshire, and melanie campbell,

who conducted a separate survey among black women voters. thank you both for being here. melanie, i will start with you. because your poll showed a higher level of support among black women who tend to vote like 96% for democratic presidents, but your poll showed a relatively high level of support among black women for donald trump at 15%. what's going on? >> well, i think there is a level of anxiety, but also, joy, what it showed was very different in all of the years i have been doing this work. black women are in what they call persuadable category, which means folks have to work even harder to get us to turn out. there's a lot of anxiety, and most of it is driven by the economic anxiety, inflation, cost of living, cost of buying eggs and milk. things like that. it's day-to-day living and having those concerns.

and the fact that you still have a high number of black women who say they would vote if the election was today, would vote for biden and vote for democrats, but it's not as high as it's always been. and it's generational. >> you mean younger voters are the ones who are less adherent. >> anyone under 50, those over 50, he has a 71% say they would vote for biden. so you see that in all of the categories. whether you're talking about the economic indicators and other kinds of concerns, it fals generational lines. >> black pac did a poll in battleground states. your poll showed what i think has been what we have seen over the years. trump being re-elected is the

biggest concern among african americans in those swing states in your poll. the rise of white supremacy and white nationalism was the second biggest concern. third was the lack of economic opportunity. and then the supreme court ruling taking back rights was number five behind rising crime and violence. what are you seeing as you're talking with black voters? these are men and women. >> yes, so we have been over the last six months doing polling in battleground states, and focus groups as well. and i think we have learned a little bit about the support level that black voters have for donald trump. i would say that the two that are most important, one is that we have not seen the support level for trump change since 2020. what we're seeing in terms of support is the exact same we saw on election day, both in terms of exit polls and the validated pew numbers. the exact same support between 7% and 9%. that's one. the support levels haven't changed. the second thing, as you just said, is we have been asking voters what is the greatest

threat to the black community. the number one answer in each of the polls is the re-election of donald trump, followed closely by white supremacy. so black voters see the single greatest threat to the black community is donald trump returning to the white house and taking adherence to white supremacy along with him. this does not sound like an electorate on the verge of the largest political racial realignment in history. as you said, we have seen that kind of racial realignment in the '30s and the '60s, but it's usually because black voters are running from the party that embraces racism and white supremacy, not running to it. >> that is i guess where i get confused. because i haven't seen anything anecdotally that shows any shift toward trump. so are what your voters, the voters that your organization spoke with, is what they're expressing a generalized anxiety, a desire for biden to change some policy, is it gaza, is there some sort of -- is this

a message? perhaps black voters are criticizing jooid like they criticize every presidential candidate, black democrats were dissatisfied with bill clinton's policies heading into the '96 election. barack obama approval among black voters reached the lowest numbers before the 2012 election. is that just a dissatisfaction showing up in polls? >> i think that there's still a high level of saying that they feel like biden, the biden/harris administration has done more, but they haven't done it all. there's more work they have to do. there are still concerns. people's day-to-day lives are impacted. what adrienne said, even in our poll that was conducted in partnership with essence, reflects that the issue of racism is still high. this is the ninth year doing the poll, and during this administration, the issues around economics are high, but

so is the issue around concern around racism. and discrimination. and that's reflected in what's going on in our day-to-day lives, especially as black women who are feeling that we're under attack, and that's not a conjecture, that's real time. i think that's where the anxiety is. there's some hope in there, but there's a lot of anxiety and stress. that's part of it, and will the biden/harris administration if they get a second term be able to address that. >> that's the thing, that the stress and anxiety around racism is about trump. it's about trump. he's running around with nazis. i don't see that makes you support trump. >> that's right. and it's trump, but it's also everything that the republican party stands for. so when we think about every issue that the black voters care about, whether it's voting rights or abortion or social security or health care or police reform, what we know is that the republican party and donald trump sit on the opposite side of every single one of

those issues and not in ways that are good faith disagreement. it's in ways that are dangerous, that block black people's progress at every point. so in some ways with this notion that we're on the verge of this racial reelinement, it really seems like someone's deepest fantasy dressed up as political analysis. that requires all of us to suspend everything that we know about american history and just live in the alternative reality that's being created. >> or maybe it's just the gold sneakers. according to trump, the blacks love the sneakers. that's what he seems to want to believe it. thank you both very much. coming up, the irish prime minister's annual st. patrick's day visit to washington. but it's not all positive vibes with the crisis in gaza very present at the event. there's a storied history of the irish feeling solidarity with the palestinian people. and we'll tell you about all of that next.

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element today as a self proclaimed son of ireland. the president who frequently talks about his irish roots and quotes irish poeters hosted leo varadkar for the festivities. it's not surprised he's more than happy to take part in the annual event celebrating american irish friendship.

but what might surprise you is the shadow on the festivities cast by the war in gaza. ireland's prime minister has been a vocal critic of israel's military offensive. in fact, ireland has long been one of the most pro-palestinian nations in the world. despite being nowhere near the middle east. and the reason why is pretty straightforward. it's rooted in a shared history of british colonialism and the experience of a seemingly intractable and traumatic conflict which for ireland ended with the 1998 good friday peace agreement. it also involves the same british colonial cast of characters. "the washington post" pointed out, some note that arthur bal4, whose 1917 letter promised british support for the establishment in palestine for the jewish people had earlier in his career served as a chief secretary for ireland and opposed irish home rule. today, president biden voiced agreement with the irish prime minister for a cease-fire in

gaza as soon as possible. he also praised senator chuck schumer for his unprecedented speech criticizing israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> he made a good speech. and i think he expressed a serious concern shared not only by him but by many americans. >> in the meantime, some much needed emergency food aid arrived today. the first private aid ship open arms carrying 200 tons of food arrived off the coast of gaza. international mediators continue to work to broker a cease-fire in gaza. hamas put forward a proposal that includes the release of israeli hostages in exchange for the release of 100 palestinians who were serving life sentences. israel's government called the demands unrealistic but said it would evaluate the proposal. we'll be right back.

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now that the presidential election is officially a rematch between president biden and donald trump, the messaging coming from the right on the kneshz, are you better off than you were four years ago, is getting more and more laughable. here's fox host sean hannity last night. >> democrats will call republicans racist, sexist, zine aphonetic, transphobic. in other words, democrats are using fear and division to mask what has been a terrible four years under biden. i repeat, they cannot run on are

you better off than you were four years ago. this is all they have left. >> he did get a lot of things right about the republican party. but like most right wingers he's overlooking the part where four years ago donald trump was president and covid had been declared a national emergency. meanwhile, new rnc chair made a similar attempt today. >> at the end of the day, this comes down to a very simple contrast between president trump and president biden. were you better off four years ago than you are today. the answer for this entire country is no. we're better off today or we will be better off. >> oops. we're better off today -- yesterday, no, wait a minute. he was right, we are better off now than we were four years ago. earlier this morning, morning joe economic analyst steve rattner fact checked three of trump's favorite attack lines against president biden. crime, energy, and the debt and

deficit. >> you can see that violent crime actually since 2020 has dropped by 15%. 339 violent crimes per 100,000 people. it's below any place it was in the trump administration. we have had record energy production under the biden administration. this combines nuclear, fossil fuels, and renewables. and you can see here that we have never had energy production this high. because of his tax cut, the deficit was going up, up, up. then of course, covid hit. and under biden, he's brought it down. because of that huge deficit when he talks also about how he was going to pay off the debt during his first term, he in fact added more debt than any other president in history. >> joining me now, fernand amandi, democratic pollster, and michael steele, former rnc chair, cohost of the weekend on msnbc and host of the michael steele podcast. okay, michael steele. inventor of the term drill,

baby, drill. think i don't remember that ini know you, my friend. crime is down, energy production at record levels. we're energy independent. more drilling than ever in human history. deficit down, and none of the republicans, they keep flubbing the are you better off now than you were four years ago. four years ago, we were stuck in our houses. how are republicans going to run when they can't answer that question? >> they'll find other things to talk about, for sure. there's a lot that they'll throw on the wall. we know that. but the reality of it is, exactly what you just said. it is going to be a very difficult narrative in the face of the facts, the statistics, the numbers. and while, yes, we know a lot of folks out there may not feel all of that right now. here's the projection. the course -- over the course of the spring and summer, all of that will start to settle in. those numbers, those folks will catch up to the numbers, if you will. that feeling will catch up

because they're seal it. yes, there are going to be so sectors of the economy where the prices may be higher, but they won't be nowhere near what they were at the height of inflation. they will be nowhere near where they were during our covid stretch of dealing with supply chain issues and so forth. so the narrative for republicans, they really want to ask that question because i think the american people were going to say, yeah, kind of yes, i am, and just as a nod out, you know, donald trump didn't drill baby drill. joe biden did. thank you very much, mr. president. for applying my little bit of slogan to your efforts. and donald trump, just take drill baby drill out of your mouth. >> because he did it. biden did what you suggested. you know who also wasn't better off four years ago or actually more like three years ago? mike pence, because trump tried to kill him, get him hung.

now he said you know what, i'm off this train. here's mike pence. >> it should come as no surprise i will not be endorsing donald trump this year. during my presidential campaign, i made it clear that there were profound differences between me and president trump on a range of issues. and not just our difference on my constitutional duties that i exercised on january 6th. i mean, as i have watched his candidacy unfold, i have seen him walking away from our commitment to confronting the national debt, i have seen him starting to shy away from a commitment to the sanctity of human life. >> from the right, fernand, he's the good news for mike pence

is they find there is a backbone there. i lot of folks did not think mike pence would go this far, stopping short of endorsing donald trump. now the question becomes do other republicans like what pop -- trumpeted today? in my judgment i feel the best surrogates for the biden campaign going in between now and november under michael steele's of the world. the current and former republicans that say under no circumstances can we allow this dangerous dictator who plans to be a tater -- dictator regain power.

i think this is a major development. >> he said he would never vote for biden but he doesn't have to say that. i always think a third party helps. >> that is true but i caution to be careful with the third party option. there are numbers out there that show robert f kennedy junior and as you play the scenarios pulling about 12 to 15%. that's a big number and it does matter where that number comes from. there is truth in what you say but you have to understand what is the makeup of his base, if you will. asking aaron rodgers to be his vice president tells us it is not very serious. do more of that, please. and it is no slight to aaron

rodgers even aaron rodgers was like really? the reality of it is you have that piece. there is a large segment cadre of voters in my bucket, if you will, the republicans former republicans who are in no way participating with this party. biden did a well calculated thing when he came out of the gate after state of the union and said i need you, i am a president for you. >> very quickly, rnc meanwhile saying no more minority average and you have the governor of florida saying we have ships in the water to essentially make sure haitians drown it the they will not be coming in so they are still showing this taste

for folks of color. >> no and it's all about the cruelty they are still playing bullhorn politics to the white supremacist space which is at the heart of the magda movement. it's now the trumpet rnc. >> ferdinand and michael are playing our favorite game who won the week.

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we made it to the end of another week which means it's time to play our favorite game, who won the week? back with me fernand, or monday and heal. >> donald trump won the week. he has twisted the american court system into proverbial knots. the fact that he has been able to delay his trials to be on the election day, he has worked the system and it has worked for him. >> wild. i wish i could argue with you. bring me up, who won the week? >> congressman ken buck who delivered a dish of revenge not

just cold but unexpectedly denying mike johnson a critical seat in that shrinking house majority for republicans and also dealing a double dose of revenge to lauren probert forcing her out of one work -- one race. >> that is so true. now i am so upset i will say my who won the week is the great and glorious miss morley evers williams, her birthday is sunday and she is turning 91. she is fabulous, she is fly and she is still a fierce fighter for justice.