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jonathan capehart, who just wrapped up an exclusive interview with president joe biden. touching on several issues, including the term that he regrets using during the state of the union address. >> i shouldn't have used it. it is undocumented. when i spoke about the difference between trump and me, one of the things i talked about was the way he talks about vermin, these people polluting. i talked about what i'm not going to do. what i won't do. i will not treat any of these people with disrespect. >> the president also addressed the situation in gaza. and had appointed a message for israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. >> he has a right to defend israel. the right to continue to pursue hamas. he must, you must, he must pay more attention to the innocent lives being lost as a consequence. i want to see a cease-fire.

>> we have all of the highlights on the special edition of the saturday show. ♪ ♪ we've got a big show with you tonight. the reason i'm in the chair, jonathan capehart is currently traveling with president biden and his campaign getting unprecedented behind-the-scenes access. right now, he's attending a rally in atlanta, georgia. biden is speaking to battleground voters. jonathan sat down for an exclusive one-on-one with the president in his first interview since the state of the union speech and super tuesday, marking the unofficial start of the general election. they touched on a number of issues, including the threat to democracy and the push for a cease-fire in gaza. jonathan began by asking by --

a very touchy subject. >> it is great to see you again. >> great to see you. >> that was one hell of a speech you gave. i noticed the look of surprise on your face when you saw marjorie taylor green. it was priceless. you were shocked, seeing her. during your response to her heckling of you, you used the word illegal when talking about the man -- >> undocumented person. i shouldn't have used illegal. look, when i spoke about the difference between trump and me, one of the things i talked about was the way he talked about vermin, these people polluting. at talked about what i'm not gonna do. what i won't do. i won't treat any of these people with disrespect. look, they built the country.

the reason our economy is going. we have to control the border. >> so you regret using that word? >> yes. >> what was it like for you to see republicans not share your tough words for president putin, or for anything that republicans used to stand for. >> i think some do stand forward, but they are pretty much intimidated by trump right now. look, i am talking to you. i'm talking to these folks. marjorie taylor green. yesterday, he spends time at his mansion and the resort, talking about his greatest respects for the president of north korea. i mean, he praises speaking. it is a different world.

>> he is a member of nato. >> he is, but he says he doesn't believe in democracy. look, the guys i host, the people i am with, they have great respect for one of another. when you have a president who in the midst of their carnage going on as a consequence of russian attack on ukraine, talks about if these guys haven't paid their dues, you just do what you need in nato. he talked about getting out of nato. it is critical to our national defense. we made a commitment after world war ii. look what he's doing. he's dangerous. >> you were caught on the hot mic after your state of the union address talking to secretary of state anthony blinken and senator michael bennet saying, quote, i told him, bb. don't repeat this, but you and i are going to have a come to

jesus meeting. what did you mean by that? >> that is an expression used in the southern part of my state, meaning a serious meeting. i've known bb for years. he knew what i meant. >> so what is the come to jesus park? what tough love are you going to get to the prime minister? >> what is happening, he has a right to defend israel, a right to continue to defend hamas. he must, he must, you must pay more attention to the lives being taken. he is hurting israel more than helping israel by -- it is contrary to what it stands for. i think it is a big mistake. i want to see a cease-fire. i'm starting with a major, major exchange of prisoners for a six- week period. we are going into ramadan. there should be nothing happening, and we should build up that cease-fire. look, i've spoken with the

majority of leaders to jordan, they are all prepared to rebuild the region. that is the focus. what comes at the gaza? what's next? it is a tough decision, but there is a lot that can be done. >> on the cease-fire -- it is saturday. the holy month of ramadan starts on monday. is it possible that a cease- fire deal could be reached in time for ramadan to start? >> the director and -- right this minute are still talking about it. i think it is always possible. i would never give up on that. >> what is your redline with prime minister benjamin netanyahu? do you have a redline? for instance, the invasion of rafah, which you urged him not to do. would that be a redline? >> i will never leave israel. the defense of israel is still critical.

there is no redline where i will cut off weapons. there are redlines that if he crosses, and you cannot have 30 more thousand palestinians date. there are other ways to deal with the trauma caused by hamas. the first time i went over it, i sat with him. i sat with the war cabinet. i said, look, don't make the mistake america made. we went after bin laden until we got him. we shouldn't have gone into ukraine -- i mean, we shouldn't have gone into the whole thing in iraq and afghanistan. it wasn't necessary. we just caused more problems. >> who actually wants a deal? do you think hamas actually wants a cease-fire? >> i think hamas would like a total cease-fire across the board.

because then they have a better chance to survive, and may be revealed. i think the vast majority of people think, look, after what happened in world war ii, the bombing that took place, what happened was, we ended up in a situation where we changed the rules of the game. they should be abided by. >> some have suggested you should go back to israel and address the israeli parliament. is that something you would do? >> yes. >> would that have to be at the invitation of the prime minister? or at the invitation of the president? >> i would rather not discuss it more. >> does that mean that has been discussed? the possibility of going back to israel? >> that doesn't mean anything.

>> okay. let's talk about the temporary period that you announced during your state of the union address to get supplies into gaza, it is going to take 60 days to get that constructed. what more are you doing in the absence of cooperation from netanyahu and a bill from congress to get supplies into gaza? more humanitarian aid into gaza? >> everything we can. in the north from israel. we are also doing air jobs. i know several people were killed. there is a way to avoid that in the future. we are working with our friends to figure out how much we can get in. look, it is a desperate situation. food, medicine, everything. it is badly needed and it is needed now. >> you are heading to michigan. on the campaign trail probably in the next few days, more than 100,000 people voted uncommitted in the primary to

protest your handling of the situation in gaza. some said they would never vote for you. one said at the new york times, and i'm quoting, as bad as his rhetoric was in him putting a travel ban on countries, he wasn't overseeing and actively arming a genocide. those are tough words. what is your response to that widely shared sentiment. >> that is not widely shared. you guys make judgments you are not capable of making. that is not what all those people said. they are very upset. i don't blame them for being upset. they have families there. they want something done about it. they are saying, joe, do something. do something. the idea that they all think is genocide, that is a different situation. look, i can fully understand. can't you? they come from a family that is still isolated there. and may be victimized. it is understandable. that is

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he has a right to defend israel, a right to defend hamas. he must, he must, he must pay attention to the innocent lives. in my view, he is hurting israel more than helping israel by making the rest of the world -- it is contrary to what israel stands for. i think it is a big mistake. i want to see a cease-fire. >> that was present abided with strong worlds -- words for israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu in his interview with jonathan capehart today. in his first sitdown, he shares what he is planning a, quote, come to jesus conversation with netanyahu. he called for a cease-fire in gaza. he says he hasn't lost

hope for a cease-fire before ramadan. he continues to send aid to -- no matter what. jonah me now, msnbc political analyst , serving as the -- to house speaker paul ryan and the secretary to house speaker. also with me, cofounder of black votes matter, and seiyu mitchell, -- thanks to all of you for joining us on this very special show. brandon, i would like to start with you. we just heard from president biden itself. he will step up his criticism in real time of prime minister benjamin netanyahu. at the same moment, he promises not to discontinue aid to israel by providing weapons to make sure they are able to defend themselves. what is the strategy that you see here? >> i think the strategy is trying to balance a lot of very complicated interest. there is not a new story in that region, of course.

you never want to be in a situation as president when your faith is in the hands of someone else. that is clearly with the situation here is. he has incredible influence, no doubt. ultimately, it is just that, trying to influence somebody else. if you can't get them to change course, and he will continue to find himself in significant political trouble within his own party. the president slipped again in the interview. jonathan was asking about a total cease- fire. the president said hamas would like a total cease-fire. i think he caught himself there, recognizing the thing that his party is calling for would in fact be a gift to hamas right now. he can't go there. he knows he can go there. he knows that israel instill -- is still an incredible ally.

>> yeah, and latasha, biden denied that many americans are denying what -- is doing. what have you actually heard from the voters? >> we have been on the ground talking to voters, particularly young voters. they are very upset what is happening. it reminds me of what is happening, the movement in south africa. young people lead that. they were very disturbed. the college students and college-age students getting around. we are seeing the same thing now. they are very disturbed about what is happening in gaza. they want to see a cease-fire. they've been very open about that. the question isn't about what hamas wants, it is about to what his constituents want. that many of the constituents, many of the young voters and new voters are saying that they want to see a cease-fire. that they want something to happen in gaza, that they want

to see an end to some of the tragic things we are witnessing, the human lives being impacted by this terrible war. >> you know, there is a massive struggle in d.c. right now when it comes to funding. we just heard president biden exclusively to jonathan capehart that there is, quote, no red line when it comes to israel. your thoughts on how well that will go over in d.c.? >> i think quite frankly if there was a, quote, unquote, clean israel bill that was put on the floor in the senate, which the house has one, the senate didn't, not because it couldn't pass. there are plenty of senators that want to give israel money. they agreed with president biden. senators from both sides of the aisle. what has held up that money is the ukraine question, which is much more controversial. there are a lot more republicans

who under no circumstances will they support more money for ukraine. and members of congress who want to give money to you i know that. they don't want to decouple the israel money, because that will make it even harder to get ukraine more money. so the question is, will they continue to hold that line in the sand, wanting to couple that, you know, border security and all of that became part of the conversation. at the end of the day, if israel starts saying, hey, we really need that money, we need you to get it to us, there will be decisions made in congress. right now, it is still tied with that ukraine money. >> brandon, we also heard president biden owning the fact that he made a mistake by using the word illegal. he says he regrets using that term. already, the trump campaign responding, saying, quote,

biden is tone deaf for walking back his use of the word illegal. your thoughts on whether or not it made sense for him to own up to what he said. >> it might make sense given where he is politically within his own party. i think it was a huge mistake to walk that back right now, honestly. it just shows incredible weakness. let's understand the context here. this is a person who killed an innocent 22-year-old woman who was out for a jog. he just that the person was undocumented. they weren't. they actually were arrested several times. when he was in the country and have been arrested for other things. this could have been a moment where he stood up to his own party and said, look, i regret saying illegal, i should've said something worse. i understand the politics on the left about language and immigration. i totally get it. i understand why he did this. i thought it was a great moment. he reminded them why people in

the middle elected them in the first place. he is not owned by the activist left. i think it is really disappointed that he couldn't use stronger words for someone they just killed an innocent woman. >> lotasha, -- also condemning former president donald trump. this is how he introduced him at mar-a-lago. listen. >> there is no one that is better, smarter, or better leader than the -- he is fantastic. he does a great job. he is a noncontroversial figure. he says, this is the way it is going to be, that is the end of it. right? he's the boss. >> lotasha, i don't think it is hyperbolic to say that the survival is on the line in november of 2024. how important is watching what we just listen to? how important is the contrast between this and a dictatorship

is someone like trump is back in the nova office? >> i think it is incredibly important. i want to go back to the previous comment. i think that biden has to draw a line in the sand to separate himself. part of what trump has done is dehumanize this. the common around a legal is not necessarily just about a political comment, but he's a human being. ultimately, if he is to be a different candidate, then i think you actually create and say, making that distinction. as we are talking about trump actually supporting a candidate that has been openly anti- democratic, that in itself is a problem. we are in a tight election. there will have to be two candidates and both of them draw the line. >> lotasha, i've got to say, if that is sugar bear, we sent him a lot of love right now. brandon, lotasha, tia, stick around. we will have questions for you in just a little bit.

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to the supreme court. right there in front of you. am i right in thinking that you viewed the court as a political body? and that the majority is politicians instead? >> now. look, i think they made a wrong decision. i think they read it wrong. i think they made a mistake. i was being blunt. remember, what they said was, it is up to the states to decide. that is really what was said. it is no longer a guaranteed principal. they used the phrase. that woman can vote, and they can change if they want to. i can find that somewhat insulting, the idea that they don't think they can. women are speaking out. they spoke out in 2022, 2024. this is what is going to happen. i was just making it clear, women speak up. this is going to change. if you give me a congress that

is democratic, we will change it back to roe v. wade. >> you are having fun on the campaign trail, aren't you? >> the only time i get out of the courser of the white house. where i get to look people in the eye, shake their hands, listen to their arguments, see the pain in their face. look, where i come from, it is all about what happens at the kitchen table. those are the things that matter. it matters if you are getting ripped off by a bank and a $35 fee for late charge when they are only allowed to charge what it cost them to fix it. that is why i moved it to eight dollars. it makes a difference. billions of dollars to banks and major lenders. but guess what? it is $100 or $200 a month or a year for a small family. my dad used to say, it is what you have at the end of the month take gives you the breathing room. we had to give them some breathing room.

there is much more i'm going to do. >> mr. president, speaking of the campaign trail, you got to get out to it. in queue for this interview. >> thank you for having me. >> my all-star panel is back. brandon buck. lotasha, the co- founder of black votes matter. tia, i want to start with you. your thoughts of seeing president biden at the state of the union address actually challenging scotus while those justices were sitting there. >> yeah. i was there at the street and i thought it was an interesting moment. i think it was a respectful way to disagree to the point that the president made, speaking with jonathan. he didn't attack him, as personally. he said, you know, i think you made a wrong decision. he also made a point to voters. if you don't like the supreme court decision overturning roe v. wade, then send me an

amenable congress, and let's create a law to create those federal protections for abortion. again, he is setting that contrast with trump. he is setting the stakes for the election, and giving women and other voters who want abortion protections of reason to vote for him and democrats in november. >> this is been a losing proposition for republicans to double down on the idea of standing between a woman and reproductive rights access. how damaging is this issue going to be for trump and frankly all republicans if anything happens to them in november of 2024? >> yeah, i think it is an interesting little tidbit here. i watched the state of the union last year. he spends 34 seconds talking about the issue of abortion. this year, seven or eight times that. he understands this is an issue they have a huge advantage on.

try to figure out how to talk about this. i don't think anybody has figured out a way to talk about it in a way that doesn't alienate a lot of voters. they suffered a huge price in every election that has happened. i imagine democrats will continue to push this hard. i was the, the president emphasizing this in a way he did . that shows that they think they have the advantage. >> lotasha, it remains a battleground state when it comes to issues affecting all women. what are you hearing from suburban women in carport -- particular? >> the strategy for this year, i think it is women. i think what we are going to see, who will make a remarkable difference in this election cycle will be women. i've been hearing terms of reproductive rights. it is really around the control over our body.

who has control over our bodies? or the say-so over our bodies? i've been hearing across the board that is the one issue i think you will see. independent women, progressive women, some who identifies being republican who simply, this is just the supreme court. it has actually gone a little too far. >> thank you all. only come back, we will have the panel staying with us. we will have a look at what donald trump is saying tonight as he is campaigning in marjorie taylor greens district. we would dig into all of that when we come back. back. ich ke, i should have gone to the doctor. instead, i tried to let it pass. if you experience irregular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, or light-headedness, you should talk to your doctor. afib increases the risk of stroke about 5 times. when it comes to your health, this is no time to wait.

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of the state of the union address. didn't it bring us together? did they bring the country together? i'm going to bring it together. no. no. he is a threat to democracy. >> my pal is back with me. brandon buck, lotashaé brown, tia -- would do you make of what he just said? >> it is consistent with his character. he is constantly in the space of making fun of people, constantly in a space of being negative. is is pretty much what we've seen with donald trump for the last two -- few years. what i thought was a highlight of what president biden did in this beach. he actually lifted up a commitment to passing the freedom to vote act, and both of those things. we need those.

because of the actions right here and people like president trump. and what he did. >> brendan, i want to talk to you about the fact that we now have an election denier who is going to be the chair of the republican national committee. and then you have laura trump, which is donald trump's daughter-in-law, who is going to be the co-chair. she has no experience doing that. what does it say to you about the fact that the rnc now has two handpicked heads, handpicked by trump to be able to pretty much maybe create a personal bank of the rnc for him. >> i will say two things, one, it is not unusual at all for the incoming nominee or a former president i guess in this case to control the rnc. has effectively become the campaign -- what is not normal as having the committee pay the persons enormous legal beads -- bills.

that is where the huge issue is. it is not as though the person who just left that she was supporting him pretty significantly. this is just a reminder that in the new -- in the second time around, or the third time around, there is no real resistance to them anywhere in the republican party ecosystem. everybody will be on team trump, going with whatever he happens to do or say, no matter how unethical or unseemly it might be. >> in light of that, tia, ahead of his beach -- speech in georgia, they placed them in marjorie taylor greene's district. directly blaming him for tanking that bill last month. do you think that is a successful strategy to have any affect on voters in that particular district? >> so, that district is a pretty

ruby red district. i think the billboards are less about convincing voters, strictly voters who may be on their way to or from a trump rally. i think it serves -- again, we are talking about it. other people across to him talking about it. i think they are, number one, making sure the voters remember that trump and marjorie taylor greene are very aligned. we know how polarizing she is. possibly even more so than he is in certain pockets of the country. i think also, it is a little bit of a troll, as president trump makes his way to rome. i think that clip we saw with trump, that is with the biden campaign wants trump to be doing. they want to see him, you know, attacking his enemies, making fun of people, saying things in sound bites that voters in swing districts and swing states would find problematic, troubling, or not presidential.

in this way, they are trying to bait him to respond, hoping that response will help make the contrast that the biden campaign is hoping to make. >> we got our hands on the prepared rally remarks in georgia. it is what he is talking about right now. one thing he had in these remarks was the following quote, we will restore law and order to our country. my footnote, kind of ironic coming from somebody who has been indicted four times. he says, i will identify all police enforcers and -- to protect them from being destroyed by the radical left for taking strong actions on crime. tosha, your thought about that? and with law enforcement officials throughout the united states. i foresee if that were to happen an incredibly violent and instruct world for all

americans. not just for a particular subset of americans. >> absolutely. he is telling us right in our faces that he is a fascist. he wants to turn this nation into a police state. he is telling us he will disregard the law and literally uses power, think of himself as a dictator to actually weapon as the police force instead of seeing it as a safety and security for people. in fact, he will weapon eyes them against communities and people. he is a dangerous man. i think it should be loud and clear that donald trump is a clear and present danger to this nation and to the democracy. >> brendan, i want to play for you president biden's latest campaign ad where he directly addresses concerns, have about his age. take a listen. >> look, i'm not a young guy. that's no secret. but here's the deal, i understand how to get things

done for the american people. i let the country through the covid crisis. today, we have the strongest economy in the world. i passed the lors -- laws that lower prescription prices. for 4 years, donald trump tried to pass an infrastructure ball, and he failed. i got it done. now we are rebuilding america. >> brendan, it wasn't the only time that he's leaned into the age issue. he talked about at the state of the union, saying, i've been around, but it also lets me know how to get things done. is this the right approach for president biden and his team going into the 2024 elections? >> yeah. i think it is. poll after poll after poll shows not just republicans, but even democrats have concerns. you can say this is some kind of invention of the right. you can tell yourself that. but real people are concerned about this. i think he did himself a lot of

waivers in the state of the union. he addressed it late in his speech. i think by that point, it almost sounds unnecessary. people saw he was interjected -- energetic. he was able to go toe to toe. i think what he did will buy him some real time on this. maybe that the media narrative around this will die down a little bit. >> i want to thank my incredible pennant -- panel for rolling with us, responding and reacting in real time to that incredible interview. thank you all for being here. i appreciate you. coming up next, donald trump is once again juggling the campaign trail and the courtroom. he is trying to get his classified documents case dismissed, but has already gotten a smack down from special counsel jack smith. joyce vance joins we live to break down a key hearing that we got coming up next week. wee allergic reactions can occur,

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defense, writing that, quote, the presidential records act does not exempt trump from the criminal law, let alone allow him to obstruct a federal investigation with impunity. both sides will appear before judge cannon on thursday for what he expects to be a daylong hearing. join me now in -- joyce vance. she is a professor at the university of alabama law and a cohost of the hashtag sisters- in-law podcast. let's talk about what is coming up next week on thursday. judge cannon, i want to stress that, a -- hearing on thursday to address a couple of motions. one of which is a motion to dismiss. your thoughts of what you think judge cannon would do with those arguments. >> well, look, it is always difficult to predict before we hear the arguments that the parties make. katie, you make the point that

this is in a hearing where the judge wants to hear about the facts. this is a hearing about what the law means. these are big, meaty issues. particularly when it comes to presidential records, jack smith has done a great job of laying out the bottom line here. the presidential records act does nothing to reduce the scope of prosecutions under criminal law that makes it a crime to retain classified documents, particularly to obstruct an investigation. and you know, something else that is very different about this case is where the decisions made by judge cannon will end up. i was reflecting today that you and i have had this discussion many times about how trump takes positions that are just ridiculous. you don't want to have had been to law school to understand they can have immunity for every possible criminal act

they may commit. this has been one court that has not hesitated to provide comments. i think that is something we will hang over this hearing later this week. >> joyce, i want to follow up on that for second. we know they have agreed to take up the presidential immunity appeal from the january 6th immunity case. what does it tell you that cannon is still moving forward having these types of problems, even though there is that pending disposition on this issue the presidential immunity. trump raised that same defense in the mar-a-lago classified case, as well. >> you know, that is right. you might expect to see a judge like judge cannon say, i will hold off on this issue. i won't -- you know, katie, virtually, everything is virtual when you are in miami, right click the food tastes

better, his -- doesn't get any better because it is found in miami and that of new york. it is the same garbage that the court of appeals is faced with. >> joyce, i also want to talk about what we are on the watch for. dealing with the motion to disqualify d.a. bonnie willis, there has been a slew of filings recently. just bolstering the defense in what they are seeking to do, saying there are all these people in additional witnesses that could come forward if the judge were to reopen the witnesses. i would reopen for you to may be read that crystal ball. do you think you will grant that motion? >> well, i think he has entertained as much if not more than enough testimony and argument that he needs to decide this case.

there are two very differing views on this. one, georgia law requires an absolute financial conflict of interest for disqualification. that is the law usually applied . the defendants have made an argument that this is an issue where will this can be disqualified even over an appearance of impropriety. the judge seemed to pick up on that argument and be very interested in it in court. it is possible he sees something that is a little different. i think this one is difficult to call, katie. the law looks clear, but the judge seemed very interested in this theory in the courtroom. >> i just have a few seconds left with you. i just wanted to quickly follow up with you on that. do you think they are willing to make new law? to some extent, it looks like that is what he could do if you were to grant a

disqualification here. >> and you know, this is compounded by the fact that he is an elected judge under georgia law. he will face election this year. there has been some speculation that might affect the outcome. he looks at the facts, looks at the law. i think we will see him go through the decision that he thinks his merit, even if it means he has to plow a little fresh ground to get there. >> joyce vance, i appreciate your analysis and insight. thank you for being here. and thanks to all of you for being here today. jonathan capehart will return tomorrow for a sunday show when he will have more of his exclusive interview with president biden and what he says he's got the back of black voters. plus, discussing the state of the presidential race and what he sees ahead. that is tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc.

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