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to a $800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet package. don't wait, call and switch today! >> thanks to at-home for joining us this hour. so, super tuesday, of course, this. tomorrow's state of the union is on thursday. on friday, the leading republican presidential candidate has invited to his home the authoritarian dictator of hungry. for a visit. it really is going to be a big
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week. did you see the movie black panther? tim well, i heard about the movie. and in, fact when i saw the trailer for that move me, i said, this is not my kind of movie. i'm not into superheroes stuff at all. i am not into, like, alternate worlds, and magic elements and, you know, things that give you superhuman powers and flying and stuff. i just -- it's just, not my thing. and, i watched it anyway. and, i absolutely loved it. i watched it one weekend, and then i went back the next weekend, and i watched it again. black panther is fantastic. even if you don't like movies like that. it's the first ever superhero movie to receive an oscar nomination for best picture, totally deserved. it i say that as a not superhero person. just a fantastic and landmark film. here is the serving republican lieutenant governor of north carolina, on that movie. on black panther.
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he said, it is, quote, created by agnostic jew. and put to film by satanic marxists. he calls it, quote, this trash that was only created to pull the shackles out of your shivered's a pockets. . ladies and gentlemen, the republican lieutenant governor of north carolina. tomorrow on super tuesday he's actually gonna be running in the north carolina primary, to become -- for governor, of this great state of north carolina. here he is, calling survivors of school gun massacres quote, media process the thoughts. as in prostitutes. but. prosti-tot, he also says world little brats. he says, they need to shut. up the calls, public school teachers, we could people. and, not for nothing, he says,
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this about the holocaust. he said, quote, hitler disarming millions of jews. and then marching them off took concentration camps is a bunch of hogwash. he is the republican party's leading candidate. to be their party's nominee for governor of the state of north carolina. he will be on the ballot, tomorrow in that state. he's already lieutenant governor of north carolina. on friday, in florida republicans in that state legislature passed, yet, another new law to restrict any teaching about racism in the united states. this happened just this past friday, just a couple of days ago on friday. in florida. and in the debate, over this new florida bill one republican, florida state representative said that while this bill, overall, will restrict teaching about racism and things like slavery in florida, the, said there is one specific thing that he wanted to make sure is included in public education in florida from here on out.
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he said, while he supports this bill, he does want to make sure everybody is aware that slaves were paid. that slaves were, quote, paid for their work. and so, he wants to make sure that is taught in schools. and then he voted for the bill. this of course comes in florida after the state republican governor tried to claim during his presidential campaign that there were actually a lot of underappreciated benefits of slavery, for the people who were enslaved. now, in the state legislature, republicans are saying that slaves, among other things, it seems like they need a pretty good living. because, they were paid. the chair of the florida democratic party put out a statement, in response, clearly just mystified. saying, quote, florida republicans are hell-bent on teaching our children that slavery wasn't bad. and it is hard to argue. i know, it's insane. but it keeps happening.
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pop over to oklahoma. in oklahoma, republicans control the state government there too. and, like just about everywhere, that is true. oklahoma republicans have now banned abortion. and, in almost every circumstance. without apparently, not enough for. the oklahoma republicans are number bingham new bill that will create a state registry of every woman who does still find a way to get an abortion. i wonder what oklahoma republicans will want to do if a state database of women who have undergone abortions? i'm sure they want it for only the most respectful and responsible reasons. other lawmakers are warning that the way the oklahoma bill is written looks like it's also, in addition to creating a registry of women who have had abortions, it also seems intended to ban contraception. including forms of contraception like the iud. that's what oklahoma republicans are up to.
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in alabama, you may remember, the nine republican justice on the court issued a unanimous ruling that, effectively, allowed fertility treatment in that state. after alabama supreme court republicans did that. democrats, in congress, in washington introduced federal legislation to protect fertility treatment, and protect ivf. that legislation was blocked. by republican u.s. senator cindy hyde smith. >> you know, after the alabama supreme court ruling, all the republicans came out and said how much they valued fertility treatment. how much they valued ivf. they wanted to make sure that they protect it. but, then they blocked protection for it when it came up in congress. while republican judges, and alabama are outlawing it in that state. seriously, do not bother paying attention to what they say. watch only what they do. they can say all they want about how much they want to protect fertility treatments and ivf. when they have the chance to
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ban it, their actions speak a lot louder than their words. there are 219 republicans in congress right now, in the, house there are 219 of that 219 number of republicans. 125 of them are sponsors of legislation, that would ban ivf. and, arguably, many popular forms of contraception as well. 125 house republicans, more than half the republicans in the house cosponsored, that including the republican speaker of the house. 125 of them. 195 of, them voted against contraception, full stop. the right to contraception act was introduced after the republican appointees on the u.s. supreme court overturned roe versus wade. the right to contraception, only eight republicans in congress voted for that. 195 voted against. and let's just stick with health care, for a second.
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florida again. florida, they are now contending with a super worrying outbreak of measles. measles. like it's the 18 hundreds. one of the most transmissible passage in san earth. and, when we don't typically have to worry about anymore in this country. because, for 64 carriers, we had a totally effective vaccine against measles. except, in florida, republicans picked a very special state surgeon general, who is not telling florida parents, who am i to suggest that, perhaps, kids should be vaccinated against measles? >> yesterday, the florida department of health released a letter from surgeon general, dr. joseph lateral, exercising how contagious measles is but did not urge parents to vaccinate their children. >> you, did which is an interesting letter from the surgeon general. >> beyond who am i to say your kids should be vaccinated, the handpicked -- had republican picked, florida surgeon general wouldn't even say that kids with measles should stay home
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from school. while their infections, and symptomatic with one of the most transmissible, potentially fatal passages known to mankind. measles in florida. not to be outdone, now the republican party's leading presidential campaign icing on the stump, that he will withhold funding, with whole all funding. not a penny from any, school anywhere in america if kids have to be vaccinated to come to school. kids have to be vaccinated all over the country, everywhere against measles and mumps and polio. i mean, it's been true for decades. it's been true for generations. but, just in, case you've been missing, i don't, know iron along the republican party is rearing to go this election year with the new measles and polio for all the kids plants. and, what swing state busy moment that isn't going to want to get the whole family to lick that doorknob ample gop -- can we get a smallpox over here? how about some tetanus for the little ones? whooping cough, like it's going
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out of style. i do want to give them republican party a little bit of a shutout though. a little bit of a salute, a stiff armed salute, for half, this gentleman not the one in the clan robe with a sheet over his head. but the guy next to him. and you could see him also in this photo. he is not the guy with the full clan neo-nazi uniform on, with the tie on the right. no, he's the guy next to him. you could see, if you put the images next to each other, he's got the same little thing on in both images, the glasses around his neck -- so, that guy, the one who, with the burning cross behind him is making the roman salute with the clans man. and the other soto with the neo- nazi in front of the neo-nazi flag. he is running for the republican nomination for governor. of the great state of missouri. and, i said i want a shot at the missouri republican party here.
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and i do. because they are not frantically trying to remove him from the ballot. so, the neo-nazi clan guy can't be there republican amani for governor. once they announced that he was trying to get him off the ballot, he responded this weekend saying, quote, the gop knew exactly who i am. republicans in missouri, including the missouri secretary of state are trying to get him off the ballot now fastball also trying to explain away what appeared to be themselves like taking pictures with that guy. well, he said you knew exactly who i was. do you want one from georgia? in georgia, republicans, they are on the cups of approving a new license plate. the new official license plate for the state of georgia. and this one comes with a little bit of history. in 1944, right? this is the apex of the allies final push to win world war ii, when fdr was running for his first term in office, the republicans ran thomas dewey
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against him in the 1944 election. there was also a third party in the mix of 1944. they ran a preacher for president in 1944 who called himself a christian nationalist, he ran on a platform that said that all american jews should be forcibly sterilized and then deported from the united states. the party was called the america first part. we are on the same time, there was an organization called america first incorporated. america first ink. the leader of that group received a patent for a club that he said was specifically designed to murder jews in america. he patented it in men's and lady sizes. he called it the cake killer. he ran an organization called america first ink. both those organizations, the america first party, an america first ink in the 1940s we're trying to capitalize on the notoriety, and the name recognition of the america first committee. which, had a one point, been very popular in the united states. but it started to wobble a
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little bit after its chief spokesman, in 1941, charles lindbergh gave a big speech and i was saying the only reason we were going to end up fighting in world war ii is because the jews were going to make us do it. the america first committee. and the america first party, and the america first ink, georgia republicans are about to approve a new taxpayer supported official state georgia license plate that says america first on. it. the republican party is kind of amazing right now. no matter where you look, no matter what state you look, there is another my friend david corn, and mother jones pointed it out to. me i didn't see this one before. this was last week at cpac and it was a man named stephen moore speaking was a trump advisor. >> one of the most evil left- wing organizations in america is the aarp. and i want to make sure that we are going to make a pact here
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today. i want to make sure that nobody joins the air. >> what is the most evil organization in america? the retired people? the aarp. the american association of retired persons, right? that's the true evil that must be destroyed. what did he call it one of the most evil organizations in america? left wing. i want to make sure nobody joins the arp we must make a path. the americans oceans of retired person is still true evil that must be destroyed. contraception, if you're trying not to have a baby, that's over. ivf if you're trying to have a baby that's over two. it should be the republican nominee for governor. he sterilize the, jews and import that movement should be memorialized on official state georgia license plate. we won, really really, really small governments that's nevertheless big enough to make
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a oklahoma state registry of every woman who's ever had an abortion. i will tell you, later what we're gonna do with. the slaves had a great, actually. slavery wasn't so bad. let florida republicans tell you about. it it's retirees. it's the arp, that's the real evil in america. testiness, and measles, they're kind of cute when it's for babies. and did i mention that on friday the leader of the republican party, the next republican presidential nominee is going to host at his home the authoritarian dictator of hungry. because dictators are kind of a thing for those guys right now like polio is. we are back. i, mean the republican party is going through some things right now. right up to the top and in every state in the country. and, today we received another reminder that there is nothing magic that will fix that. there's no magic wand. there is no, you know, full stop legal remedy that is going to stop the republican party from being this way.
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but that is going to stop them from ascending to take the white house again with donald trump at their house. the united states, supreme court, will, today as expected at the part of the 14th amendment that you can't own federal office that the government of united states and the court ruled today that donald trump's role in the january 6th insurrection isn't enough on his own, to trigger that constitutional protection for helps nothing this. and, so even the state can keep candidates off the ballot, for lots of other constitutional reasons like, being too young, or not being a citizen, or whatever with this one with the trying to overthrow the government, and being banned for life, on federal office because of it like the constitution and it's plain language on this one he is fine. language on this one he is fine.
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trump. and, he doesn't just get the presidency, thanks to the court of trying to get it. he still does have to run for it. >> we are a nation that recently heard that saudi arabia and russia will -- >> that was this weekend. >> it is unbelievable. [inaudible] >> he slipped into admitting, or positing once again that he is running against president
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obama rather than president biden. he does this all the time. and you can hear, from him making that mistake, making that same error again, you can hear from the crowd as they're listening to him that they have no idea what to make of this. they are just a silent while he just keeps going with it. >> putin, you know, as a little respect for obama that he started to throw around the nuclear word the other day. nuclear, you heard that. he started to talk nuclear weapons. >> the crowd heis like, do we cheer for him announcing nuclear? should we just agree that he's running against obama since he keeps saying obama all the time? should we clap? when the republican front runner remembers that it is a man named joe biden who is running against and not barack obama, the whole basis for that campaign against biden, as you know, is that biden's out of it. that oubiden is old and stuff. trump is 77, biden is 81. a new ap poll out today since six and ten voters have worries
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about the mental capacity of each of them. about 57% of voters say they have that worry about trump, about 63% say that have that worry about biden. the margin of error in this poll is just over 4%, and so, yeah, it is kind of d a tie. i think the headline here on the ap story today is about right. about six and ten voters in -- have worries about both of these old dudes maybe being too old and out of it. but that is who the two parties are running, it's our pick one. pick one. that is your choice, pick one. i mean, e,you have lots of grounds on which to choose. they have also both been president, which is a rare thing you get to choose from among presidential candidates, but that lets us compare them. in the past three plus years that joe biden has been president we have got unemployment below 4%, best job market since -- depending on you how you scount, them 1860s violent crime at nearly a 50- year low. the united states has had the best economic recovery since
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covid of any large country in the world. the stock market has hit record after record, more americans have health insurance than ever before. he is standing up against, putin who's one of the least popular figures in the o'world with r american voters. he's fighting for reproductive rights, which is something even red state voters say they want, while rsrepublicans are strippi those rights aggressively everywhere. he is cutting student loan debt will republicans are trying to stop him from doing that. he has brokered and signed the biggest bipartisan infrastructure deal ever in the history of the country. unions have never been more popular in my entire lifetime, and i'm old and he's the first president ever to join the picket line with striking auto workers who then run their strike and then endorsed him. his democratic party has s outperformed the polls and outperformed history, in the midterms and all the off-year elections since he's been president. well, on the other side, his opponent has been indicted 91 times. and don't forget that his opponent was just president, right before this.
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which we remember. and even if we don't, in the three plus years that he has been gone from the white house, we ghave learned some real doozies about what exactly was going on there. >> the new photos released showing boxes of documents stashed in a ballroom, even a e ho. room at his mar-a-lago the indictment is saying, among the classified documents found in the boxes, information about u.s. nuclear programs. >> i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don't care they have weapons, they're not here to hurt me. take the effing bags away, let my people march the capital from here. let the people in, take the bags away. >> a two billion dollar investment that former president trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, secured last summer from a fund led by the crown prince of saudi arabia as raised questions about the ethics of post white house business dealings. >> we're back with cassidy hutchinson. cassidy, what was mark meadows
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burning every day? >> you know, i wish i knew, nicole. there were several times i would walk into mark's office and i would see him putting papers into the fireplace. >> eventually accommodated the long break between he and myself in june of 2020 when he wanted to put active duty troops on the streets of washington, d.c., and suggested that we shoot americans in the streets. >> he suggested that we deploy active duty troops in washington and shoot americans in the streets. says his defense secretary. and the white house chief of staff was regularly burning documents in the white house fireplaces and the son-in-law mysteriously gets a two billion dollar house warming president -- from a foreign government when he -- about americas nuclear programs at home in a bathroom and then refusing to give them back, and he's explicitly asking for armed people to be let into the crowd
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that he was going to directed to go to congress to overthrow the government to keep him in power. those are just, that is just a sprinkling of the things we have learned about his time in office since he had left office. today there's actually another one. new reporting from rolling stone, look at this headline. trump's white house was a wash in speed. i don't mean speed as an efficiency, i mean speed as in everyone was on drugs. who wants those guys back in the white house? because the two major parties are going to dominate somebody, and you've got to pick one. which would you prefer? you have to pick one. i'm actually going to speak with the lead reporter from that rolling stone story in just a moment. but i will just leave you with this. there is no magic spell. there's no solution that is going to come, say, from the supreme court. the supreme tcourt did the fav of reminding us all of that today when they ruled that
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trump will stay on the ballot all over the country. they gave us that reminder today after last week they made sure we knew it in the first place when they, someone eo inexplicably took action to delay all the trump criminal trials, except the one they couldn't stop, until after the election. there is no magic wand coming to stop this thing. there is no magic beans that you can throw here that you can make some been stop to take us away from all of this. there's only one way out of this, pick one. the democratic party has picked its nominee. yes, it's an old guy who is doing practical, normal, and popular things as president and has a lot to show for, it particularly in terms of how well things are going economically since he's been at the helm. the republican party is pretty obviously picking their guy, e well, also an old guy who, for example, cannot say the word venezuela and has no idea who is the current president of the united states, currently riding
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high on his parties abortion bans and measles a curious vera logical dingiest free associating, east trying to warm the american people up to the idea of just a little bit of dictatorship from him. he's getting us ready to start building cam still hold millions because his advisers say that deportation starts at noon on day one. the courts are not going to help. the law will be a sidebar to the main decision. you will make this decision, the only way this decision will be made is by you picking one. by you volunteering and donating and campaigning and deciding it matters enough q to not only vote, but to help. to help your candidate try to win. the crepublican party really, really is amazing right now. but the only thing that will stop them is democrats winning instead.
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period. full stop. thank you united states supreme court for the clarification on the campaign, if we didn't know it already, the campaign starts now. >> we are a nation that just recently heard that saudi arabia and russia will -- russ
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so, here is the headlines. can't mistake it, trump's white house was awash in speed -- and xanax. now, earlier this year you might remember, in january, the pentagon found, in an inspector general report, that during the trump administration the white house doctor's office routinely provided opioids and other
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controlled substances at the white house staff who were not eligible to get them, who shouldn't have been getting that stuff, as part of that report the pentagon included a document that showed, basically, in order form for medications that were ordered by the white house medical unit. it was a doubling out, stuff like a fentanyl and ketamine, also morphine and ambien and a lot of an upper cold pro vigil. p r o v i g i l. the something the give two fighter pilots so they don't fall sleep when they're making war. but now, in today's reporting, rolling stone at this. according to interviews with four former senior administration officials and others with knowledge of the matter, the stimulant, pro vigil, was routinely given to staffers who need it in energy boosts after a late night, or just a pick-me-up to handle another day at a uniquely stressful job. as one of the former officials tells rolling stone, the white house at that time was, quote,
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a wash in speed. and it wasn't just speed. quote, the anti anxiety medication xanax was also a popular, easy to get drug during the trump years, three sources tell us. one unnamed source telling rolling stone, quote, it was kind of like the wild west. things were pretty loose. whenever someone needs, we are going to fill this. just one other detail in this report tonight from rolling stone that i feel like we should point out, besides the prescription medication stuff that is outlined here, the white house medical unit also provides counseling services, they have mental health staffers, they are a team of therapists. what happens in the counseling session is typically protected, as you might guessed, by patient confidentiality, but apparently not in the trump white house. rolling stone reporting today that therapists working in the trump white house or, quote, pressed for information about what they were told by white house staffers immediately after therapy sessions. the implication being that
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whatever they told their therapist, it could be used against them at work by their bosses in the trump white house. joining us now is no shock, many to contradict of rolling stone, the outgoing editor and chief and rolling stone, one of two bylined in the story along with -- it's nice to see, you. did i get any of that wrong, or the wrong way around? >> no, i think that's pretty much it. you know, look, on a therapist, which is a shocking, shocking revelation. first of all, i couldn't believe i found a trump white house therapist, and secondly i couldn't believe this person would talk to, me and thirdly i couldn't believe what this person told me. now, look, their boss told me on the record that it was just for military screening. we are just trying to make sure that they were okay with their top secret clearances. but here's the thing, this therapist saw civilians, to. so, there would not be a
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military issue. and this therapist said, yeah, the questions started out general and pretty basic, but this person felt like it went down a slippery slope into betraying confidential patient information. when you pair the looseness with which they handled the drugs with the looseness with which they handled patient information, you get a pretty bad picture. >> one of the things that you -- in the reporting today is describe the fact that, in other white houses, people have described, particularly when it comes to long a foreign trips, being doped by the white house medical office. getting either operas or doubters, depending on what people needed to be able to get through long, growing overseas trips through multiple time zones. that is something that is not unique here. this is described as being, not just quantitatively, but qualitatively different. people getting, effectively, for high grade pharmaceutical
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versions of speed all the time, not only directly from the white house medical office, but circulating it amongst themselves as staffers. >> that's exactly right, and it wasn't all, right? if you do a stimulant enough, it is really hard to get to sleep. it's really hard to calm down. so then you need this annex, then you need a sedative, then you need the anti anxiety medication to kind of cool down. several staffers or than mixing xanax and alcohol, which is, it packs quite the wall up. >> you describe having a been inspired to do some of this reporting by saying those hand written letters from the inspector general report. it is striking to see ketamine and fentanyl and morphine and some of these other, talk about pacolet kind of drugs. what are they doing with ketamine and fentanyl? >> we could find no evidence and evidence that ketamine and
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fentanyl were just prescribed in the way that proved joel and xanax were handed out. what we could find, though -- >> with the caveat that the record keeping around what was actually handed out was pretty lousy? >> it was crazy. it was hand written. like, in fact, the luxury you showed, there it was from 2014. they didn't have any current ones, they crossed out 2014 and put 2019. there's lots of illegible stuff, even for doctors. it is super sloppy record keeping. so we didn't find anything that said trump staffers got could mean. what do they seemed to do is stockpile the stuff in case of a very odd emergency, as if trump was maybe in botswana, or someplace nowhere near a hospital, and suddenly got shot and he suddenly wanted to do an emergency procedure on him. you're giving me a skeptical look because it seems like a remote, remote possibility. >> in terms of the white house medical office, there has been continuity. we had a very controversial white house medical office chief with ronny jackson who
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behaved strangely when it came to releasing information to the public about trump's health. he is now a controversial republican congressman. is there a sense in which this is, it seems specific to his time period at the helm? it is something that has been a problem with the white house medical office that the proceeds him and has been a problem after he left? do we know anything about this being worse or better over time? >> yes, we do. so, pretty much every source that we talked to traced the problems back to ronny jackson and to his tenure. but, the thing is, even when ronny jackson left, his people were still around for a while. and even when ronny jackson left, this kind of anytime, anywhere, wildwood attitude towards handing out prescription medications, that lasted for quite some time into the trump administration. >> no shock -- editor and chief of rolling stone magazine.
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constitution, preclude you from holding federal office or running for federal office again. it does, however, preclude us from being surprised if you try to do the same thing again. and that is what is looming over some very ugly new reporting from the new york times under this headline. trump's allies ramped up campaign targeting voter rolls. quote, a network of right-wing activists and allies of donald j trump is quietly challenging thousands of voter registrations and critical presidential battleground states, an all but unnoticed effort that could have an impact in a closer contentious election. calling themselves election investigators, the activists have pressed local officials in michigan, nevada, and georgia to drop voters from the roles on mass. they have, at times, targeted democratic areas. and, on one level, this sounds like a story we've heard a lot of times before, right? every election under the guise of fighting nonexistent voter
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fraud, conservatives push for purges of the voter rolls in democratic areas. here is what is new about these right-wing voter challenging efforts this year and what we should consider ourselves a forewarned about. this year, the purpose of them getting all these people thrown of the voter rolls is not just for republicans to disenfranchise voters on the front, and make it harder for people to vote. that is its own reward. they like that, they want that, but they are also trying to lay the groundwork for republican challenges on the back and, to give them fodder for challenging election results they do not like. quoting from the times, quote, right-wing media outlets have promoted the voter roll challenges, casting public officials as corrupt and creating a fodder that could be used in another round of legal challenges showed mr. trump lose again. the chief executive of the nonpartisan states united democracy center tells the times, quote, it really is aimed at being able to cast doubt on the results after the
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fact. so, step one, if you file all these bogus challenges to voter registrations in democratic areas in swing states. step two, those challenges make it harder for people, in mostly democratic areas, a devoted, which hopefully helps trump win. but, if he doesn't win, then proceed to step three. oh my goodness, look at all these voters whose eligibility has been questioned. it must be voter fraud, it must be a stolen election. democrats being ready for this election season means, not only getting real about the fact that this election is about picking joe biden or picking donald trump and there isn't any other way to get through it. democrats getting real about this election season also means getting, real right now, about what trump and his allies are setting up to contest the election if and when they lo it. stay with us. it. stay with us. tirement savings. voya provides tools that help you make the right investment and benefit choices. so you can reach today's financial goals. and look forward to a more confident future.
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this is from a member of the board of elections in georgia. quote, despite no evidence to support their claims, we, unfortunately are preparing for the onslaught of significantly more voter challenges by certain groups attempting to remove voters from the voters roll ahead of the november general election. despite no evidence to support their claims. pro trump stop the steal activists are ramping up efforts to kick people off the voter rolls in a whole bunch of swing states, not just to make it harder for people to vote, but also, according to reporting from this new york times, to create fodder for
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conservatives challenging the election results if trump loses the election again. that is new reporting from the new york times, including reporter nick coursing 80 and alexander bruise on. nick, he joins us now here in studio. nick, thank you very much for being here i appreciated. >> thanks for having me. >> i feel like it's been a lot of years that i've been covering, what i would call voter suppression efforts. efforts to clean the voter rolls, meaning perch people off the voter rolls. it always seems to happen right before elections, and often targets mostly democratic voters, and often is done by conservative-leaning groups. this feels, not just tactically -- or technologically different, it feels technically different. that there's a new element to it this year. is that fair to say? >> i think one of the things that is a very good right now is how coordinate this is on a very large macro level, and then at the state level. so, we've seen these loose networks of people who are stop the steal, either election deniers, or people who are just very conservative on issues of
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voting all coming together and uniting under some leaders. mitchell, the lawyer who tried to help trump overturn the results of the 2020 election is been a leader, mike lindell of mypillow who believes that machines are corrupt, it is another leader. and what they've done is a kind of established this loose connection where they meet on zoom, they need on calls and states like michigan and georgia and arizona, and they're talking and trading tactics and they're building software. they're actually building new software now. in georgia there are two new pieces of software they're about to roll out this election specifically. >> designed to target voters who they want to get kicked off the rolls? >> yeah, one will be looking at the national change of address form and trying to identify voters who have changed. and another is this database that is, basically, like a couple of million voter files and they try to match that other databases, it kind of like what eric used to do. so they got rid of eric, and those are being developed by a concert of leading organization just to facilitate, help
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facilitate, voter challenges. so it is a much more sophisticated effort and they're also getting much more savvy in some of these tactics. like, in michigan, for example, they discovered a law on state books from 1954 that said that, if an electorate challenges another electorate, a singular, then there is a process that begins and they attest to it with a signed affidavits that that voter must be removed from the rolled if they don't respond within 30 days. that is a very different than the federal statute in the ndp are, a which is two federal election cycles. so they found a loophole -- >> to move more aggressively? >> exactly. so they started sending these notes directly to municipal clerks saying you have to follow this law. we found these voters, sometimes it was dozens, sometimes it was just for, saying we checked, we are testing to this, and, due to this law on state books, you have to follow the law. and some clerks were like, okay. in general, about 100 removed, in waterford there was about
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1000 removed. the secretary of state said then, we actually noticed this, my colleague was the one who found this in the first place, and so just the fact they were able to find this -- >> the court didn't know about it until you called and asked for comment? >> secretary of state. >> but let me stop you there for a second. did the clerks and local officials being targeted by these efforts, obviously it's voters being targeted, but it's being targeted through local officials. to the local officials have the wherewithal to deal with this? did they know what they're up against? are they being kind of pushed into this? they're being told they're breaking the law and they must do what these activists want them to do. >> i think some are very much afraid of breaking the law. they are under a microscope like they've never been before. there are poll watchers everywhere who are either trying to catch a mistake, catch anything that they can to seize on or challenge or change the election. i think so many election officials are overtaxed, they're underpaid, election offices across the country don't have enough money to
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simply carry out elections and there has been numerous laws recently granting them from getting other sources of, money and congress isn't passing the bill -- or part of the budget in congress to get elections more money. so, they've got a lot on their plate. if they see in the mail that is like, you need to follow the law. some just think, i need to follow the law, it's in front of me. others are more familiar with us. if you look at georgia in the 2021 senate runoff elections, there were 360,000 voter challenges. that is a massive amount of challenges. they hadn't seen that forever. so they're a little more familiar with the statutes and the ready to assess these, how valid they are. they do have a process they have to follow, georgia passed a law in 2021 that kind of expanded what you can do to challenge a voter, but they are little bit more prepared. >> is there getting blowtorch attention from one side that is going to have an effect in terms of how they react, and they're going to need support among other things to know the right thing to do and be able to stand up against pressure.
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nick courtney from the new york times, along with alexander, did this a crucial reporting. thank you so much for helping us understand. we'll be right back, stay with us. stand. we'll be right back, stay with us. ♪ ♪ i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. i'm under 7. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death in adults also with known heart disease. i'm lowering my risk. adults lost up to 14 pounds. i lost some weight. ozempic® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't share needles or pens, or reuse needles. don't take ozempic® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop ozempic® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. gallbladder problems may occur. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking ozempic® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase low blood sugar risk. side effects like nausea, vomiting,
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tomorrow's super tuesday. 16 states and one territory will be holding primary contests for the republican democratic presidential nominations. msnbc will have live coverage of all that, morristown at six pm eastern. i'll be joined by all my colleagues here for special coverage as the polls close. it is right here on msnbc, i'll be here starting at six pm eastern. i will see you then. all right, that does it for us tonight. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening,. lawrence >> will be joining you at seven pm tomorrow night. our lead off tonight's harvard law school professor laurence tribe. we're going to get his -- followed by andrew weissmann and the new guilty plea from trump world today. allen weissenberg pleading guilty for perjury. later in the hour, there is this very important