>> before we go, i want to thank everyone who has come out to support me and my mentor and merely tour, washington d.c. showed up on monday politics and prose with me in the amazing michael beschloss. i'm headed to one of my absolute favorite cities this weekend, new orleans. i will be at baldwin and company this saturday at four pm central. grab your tickets by going to msnbc.com and i will see you there. that is tonight reidout. all in with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight in all in. >> i did everything right in the indicted me. >> a day after delaying justice for trump, the historic proof that a quick decision at the supreme court is possible. >> the justices seem determined to rule on this case quickly, well aware of the committee

deadlines for choosing presidential electors. >> nancy pelosi on the wildly unpopular markup push to eliminates reproductive rights. >> having a child through ivf is a wonderful thing. it is not a crime. it should not be punished. >> plus, president biden in the republican front-runner toward the problem trump wants to solve. >> the blame it on me. i said that's uncle police blame it on me. please. >> and gunfire. a stampede and over 100 killed. the latest on the nightmare unfolding in gaza. when all in starts, right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. while trump is facing many trials or at least cases that could potentially go to trial. we will see if he faces trials. we have news on one of them tonight. in the mar-a-lago classified documents case special counsel jack smith's, as of just a few hours ago, proposing to the federal court in florida that trial should start on july 8th.

trump's attorneys are suggesting the trial should start in 2025, after the election, if at all, according to court filings. the judge, appointed by trump in the lame duck session in 2020 may make a decision on that tomorrow. we will watch carefully for that. but whatever she decides, that trial date will that have to go through a legal conduit possibly growing up to the supreme court best on another immunity assertion that trump is now making in that case, even though the crime he committed was not when he was president. how quickly will all that move? here's the thing. what the supreme court has going for it, as an institution, by constitutional design, is that it is insulated for from electoral politics. intentionally. we give the justices lifetime tenure in large part to ensure their interpretation of the law are not subject to the winds and the passions of pundits and politicians and parties and even majorities of voters.

but that independents is a two sided coin. the flipside comes a dangerous deeper within the courts design that it's independents tips over into a kind of reckless lack of accountability. and one way in which the supreme court of united states is just completely unaccountable is on the basic question of what it does and when it does it. with a few exceptions, like disputes between two different states over water rates and stuff like that, the court only takes the cases they want to take. they reject the ones they don't want. the court can adhere to normal procedure when they want to and then they completely break normal procedure whenever they want to. when they want to act fast they can act very fast. when they want to slow walk something, they can go very slow. yesterday's one page announcement that after two and a half weeks of doing lord knows online they were scheduling arguments on donald trump's claim a presidential immunity from prosecution for seven weeks from now seems to

indicate the conservative marginal court does not want to move particularly quickly and i would hazard that part of that reason is that to move quickly would be would mean donald trump would face an imminent trial for the insurrection he fomented and that would, i think, appreciably hurt his chances of being the next president. but if the supreme court justices want to move quickly, they could. a little recent context. i think it's important. if you get lost in the procedural weeds. back in december, donald trump filed a claim saying he was immune from prosecution for trying to overturn the election because he was being charged for acts he committed while he was president. and the district judge, in that case tanya chutkan, heard arguments and issued a very well reasoned ruling saying nobody it, doesn't work that. way quote, whatever immunity's a sitting president may enjoy, the united states has learned chief executive at a time, and that position does not confer a lifelong get out of jail free pass. and then the special counsel

prosecuting case, jack smith, did something a little novel and even audacious. rather than waiting for donald trump to appeal that ruling to the d.c. circuit, which is the next step up the ladder, smith said hey, we all know this is going to end up in the supreme court. let's just cooling court now. let's do it. let's have it out. and he applied for the rare procedural mechanism that's called cert before a judgment. what it means is you can leapfrog a step. you leapfrogging the appellate court and you rush straight to the doors of the supreme court to save time in this case. and also because you know it's going to end up there. and when he tried to do that the supreme court responded, no, no, no, we're going to let the appeals run their course first. so now of course another two months have gone by. the appellate court has ruled unanimously against trump. they've issued their very strong unanimous opinion and petitioned back to the supreme court. what does the supreme court do? they say you know what, actually, check that.

we do want to hear the case. seven weeks from now. so the court succeeded in burning more than three months off the calendar. and i want to be clear here. it's not just that they could have gone faster. it is that another recent cases they have shown themselves extremely ready to jump in and snatched issues from the world when it suits. them when president joe biden issued an executive order that would've canceled literally hundreds of billions of dollars in student debt for millions of our fellow americans, a bunch of republican states sued to stop the plan. they lost their lawsuit at the district level and they appealed. and then you know what happened? the supreme court stepped in. and they granted search before a judgment. same thing jacks mitt wanted, to leapfrog the appellate court and take charge on an expedited basis. was there something pressing about this case? other than the notion that millions of american students would have their debt canceled? not really. it wasn't like a death row

appeal. but sure enough, look at that, the court just could not wait. they couldn't move fast enough. they came together with a conservative majority on incredibly novel legal reasoning and they snatched back that debt cancellation to make sure that students would have to pay every cent of their student loan. they could not move fast enough to make sure that no one got their debt canceled. they were in a real hurry on that one. same process played out in august, 2021. president biden wanted to extend the trump administration's pandemic moratorium on evictions. so in the midst of once in a century pandemic, you don't boot people with their stuff out onto the street. landlords and realtors challenged it. and well it was before an appellate court, they petitioned supreme court for me the relief. they said we don't want to wait. we want to jump the line. we want to go straight to the supreme court. just over three weeks after biden ordered the eviction ban, the six conservative justices of the supreme court sprang

into action, quickly deciding the moratorium could not stand, but yes you can throw people out of their homes. three weeks. they had to do whatever it took. burn the midnight oil. feed the clerks extra helpings of red bull to make sure people could start being evicted again. those are just too odd examples on this court in recent memory. but it's also clearly the case for american history the court can and does move quickly on a high profile cases with a national political significance. we're tired about this case a lot yesterday. you know it, you love it. u.s. v. nixon, the infamous case in which richard nixon refused to hand tape recordings from the oval office to a federal judge in the watergate scandal. everyone in the country understood this was make-or- break for nixon. it was the biggest case of the time. those tapes could prove his involvement in crimes. and on july 8th, 1974, the

supreme court heard arguments in the case when they weren't even in a regular session. >> and decisions expected in a week or two, even before this money's argument one justice was writing and circulating his ideas. another had his quote prepare a draft opinion. >> with faith, the republican on the line, the court issued their decision just 16 days later. >> the president nixon has not yet responded to the sledgehammer decision that the supreme court today, which ruled that he must immediately turnover tapes in 64 presidential conversations. >> what about bush v. gore? remember that? the recount in florida? barely a month after the votes were cast, and one day after florida's highest court ordered a statewide recount, the supreme court stepped in. they granted the bush campaign an emergency stay to stop florida from counting the votes. do not count anymore votes. the reason that bush wanted that was that the bush campaign was worried that if the recount

continued, allegra would pull ahead. and then, one day after granting search in one of the most expedited cases of all- time, but conservative court took oral arguments and began deliberating quickly. >> it doesn't get any more tense than this. the justices working for a second night on the historic decision. all this waiting for a decision on a case that was after all argued on you yesterday. the justices seem determined to rule on this case quickly, well aware of the committee deadlines for choosing presidential electors. >> just four days after granting -- bias ingle vote, the high could permanently stop the recount and gifted george w g bush presidential victory. so when it comes to making sure that presidential candidate for president gets into office the supreme court can really move at the speed of light, can't they? the point here is that even though this conservative court seemingly tip their hand this month by sitting on the trump case for two weeks and then scheduling it for arguments way down the line able 22nd, they

can still, if they want, to move very quickly. it is still on their power. and no one should let them off the hook on this massively imported and weighty question before the nation. with a man who tried to overthrow the constitutional republic faces trial for those alleged crimes, or will he not? nine americans can still decide that donald trump deserves to stand trial to present evidence under our constitution, before a jury of his peers, to find out whether he's guilty or innocent of what he is charged for hundreds of millions of americans go into a voting booth and see trump's name on their ballot. supreme court has the power to do that. they certainly haven't shown they have the will. congressman jamie raskin, democrat of maryland, member of the house judiciary committee and served as lead impeachment manager in the second impeachment of donald trump over january 6th. he joins me now. congressman raskin, i love nothing more than arguing

against myself and i've been reading other people who say oh, you're getting wound up for nothing. they are moving quickly for the court. as a constitutional law professor, before you became a member of the united states congress, and someone with a vested interest in the preservation of the constitutional republic against its enemies, what do you think of what we saw from the court yesterday? >> the point you just made, chris, is correct, which is, when conservative republicans want some fast action, as own bush versus gore or the challenge to the student loan debt forgiveness policies of the biden administration, the conservative supreme court justices move with josh hawley type speed to make it happen. more [laughter] when they want to slow walk something, if they do in this case, then they move at this speed of donald trump sitting in the oval office dining room

watching an insurrection unfold. so there is no doubt that there is political will being exercised within the supreme court. but it is certain point we can't cry over spilled milk. we have to focus the attention of the country on the fact that this is going to be decided. the d.c. circuit court decision, we should have been left alone so it would simply stand, that was the right thing to do. but that decision is utterly authoritative and compelling in dismissing donald trump's absurd argument that the president of the united states or a foreign president united states can escape all criminal prosecution for all criminal acts including political assassinations conducted in office, unless he has first been impeached and convicted in the house and senate, which of course has never fully happened in u.s. history. so basically he's asserting guard like power, certainly

monarchical powers for the president. they should've left it alone. and any event they've taken it up, and we need to insist that the court render this decision as quickly as possible. otherwise it sets up the very clear suggestion that it means to interfere in the case taking place in washington on the charges that interfering with the federal proceeding in conspiring to do so. i have to tell you that there's a difference of opinion about whether conducting that trial in the summer or in the early fall would hurt donald trump or help donald trump. i'm sort of elastic on that. some people i was just with, rodney davis, a republican, was making the point that donald trump loves nothing more than to play the victim and play the martyr. and so you could argue the politics in either direction. there's certainly the substance of portion of republicans were saying they would not vote for president for donald trump if he were convicted on crimes. of course there are other

prosecutions going forward. this is a rich and well-the beloved field now of crimes committed by donald trump. and so we'll see what happens in the political hush money case in new york as well. >> you are point is well taken. i think you're right. the point i keep coming back to is that we voters have a right to know whether the man is innocent or guilty. that doesn't go in both directions. if the man is innocent of the crimes found rotary of his peers, we deserve to know that as well. that's important information for voters if they're gonna return the man to the white house. >> well, yeah, you see that point categorically. i'm not sure that we have a right to know before an election whether someone is guilty or night. it's certainly not a right in the constitution. on the other hand, the constitution does invoke the right to a speedy trial, and that is a right that applies not just to the defendant but

also to the prosecution and the public interest lies behind it. i would say generally that's. right speedy trial is a constitutional value and norm that the supreme court should be respecting and not interfering with. >> in terms of speedy processes in the opposite of them, there's a house impeachment trial or hearing that has been happening, largely centered in the oversight committee on which you serve as the ranking member. there is much about hunter biden. correct me if i'm not getting this right. they want hundred biden to calm. hunter biden showed up, they don't like that he showed up. they told him to go away. then they said will only want to do it behind closed doors deposition in today under biden did that behind yours deposition. right? so now we're all square? we are good? did he admit to the crime of the century in that deposition? >> now. he pretty much debunked and demolished every theory that has been floated. he kind of knocked down every

piece of flotsam and jet some from this impeachment expedition shipwreck that the republicans have left us with. it has just been a comedy of errors from the beginning. for a while their star witness was -- who turned out to be a chinese spy who was on the run from the u.s. government. they're original star witness -- >> i'm laughing because i forgot that my. haven't heard that name in years. >> yeah, well we've got a dozen more where that came from. but of course the original witness is now in jail in california as a flight risk after being indicted by the u.s. attorney special counsel david weiss, who was named by donald trump, and he was indicted for a lying to the fbi and constructing a false record. and so it's just one felon

after another where the people have been lining up to tell these lies and conspiracy theories, and the whole thing has a very strong with of russian profit propaganda and disinformation now because of the recent revelations in the california prosecution. in any event, hunter biden really acquitted himself very well and was able to knock down every attempt to catch him up in something. and he made the basic point, look guys, you go after me all you want, but my problems are my problems. my father was not involved in my business, financially, in any way at all. and he made no benefits to my country. i never asked him. to >> someone came out saying he looked pretty good. congressman jamie raskin thank, you for your time tonight. >> cleanup, is house republicans say they support ivf, in one breath and tried to take it back with the next, nancy pelosi is here tonight. there is so much to talk about,

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>> in the summer of 2022, the supreme court overturned roe v. wade and it quickly became clear that all reproductive rights were now under threat in america. dobbs decision eliminates the right to an abortion at any point in pregnancy, opening the door for all kinds of right- wing ideas to be instituted by state governments impossibly national governments about when life begins. and much of the far-right

believes, and i take them with their where they believe this, that a fertilized egg is a human person and as such should have the full constitutional rights of a human person. and if you take that idea seriously it puts everything from abortion to forms of birth control to and vitro fertilization on the chopping block. now democrats in the senate, after dobbs, immediately sprung into action, recognizing this inexorable logic. they introduced a bill specifically to proactively protect ivf, reproductive technology that tells people, that including tammy duckworth, i have babies. republicans rose to block. they would not allow unanimous consent to move to a vote on it. fast forward to this year. in a frankly deranged ruling that featured an outright theocratic concurrence from the chief justice, the alabama supreme court found that frozen embryos created the process of ivf our children.

to move immediately imperiled care of the state. multiple ivf clinics, fertility clinics in alabama, basically immediately stopped treating patients. couples that are trying to get pregnant just suspended because they feared legal repercussions from this ruling. and republicans in the and realize this was bad for them. today the republican house and senate alabama both passed bills to protect ivf. the legislation would shield patients, doctors, another professionals engaged in ivf services from getting engaged in civil suits. those were then reconciled inside by the governor. clearly republicans, who control the alabama state government, immediately recognized how bad this could be. like a 90 ten issue. 80 5:15. but it's also bad for people trying to grow their families who desperately want to have children. and for the republican party's political future. and in congress, panicked republicans reacted to the ruling by running around proclaiming the support for ivf to anyone who would listen.

>> i don't support any effort to take away ivf from any woman in this country. >> ivf is something that is so critical to a lot of couples. it helps them have great families. our country needs. that >> people need to have access. people, we need more kids, we need people to have the opportunity to have kids. >> i'm for ivf. and pro ivf. it's protected in missouri, in my state, and i think should be everywhere. >> i strongly support ivf. also he is a young mother i strongly support ivf. i support president trump's call for the alabama legit later to -- pass the discussion pass ivf. >> the republican party is pro family party. so there's nothing more pro- family than welcoming new babies into the world. >> okay, by the way, congressman donald d.c. that ivf allows families to breed great families? weird. so we might think that republicans might like to take action to make sure that what happened in alabama doesn't

happen to other families to andrew conceive across the country. it seems like a political slam dunk. yesterday senator publicans threw away another chance to do just that one democrat tammy duckworth of illinois again brought the bill to protect ivf back to the senate floor, once again asking for unanimous consent and once again republican senator cindy hyde- smith of mississippi blocked it. things are worst on the house side house. side a majority of the republican caucus and signed on to a bill that would nationalize the alabama ruling. i'm not making this up. it includes speaker mike johnson, who claim to support ivf and recent statement. here's the bill. you can find it online. hr4 31. the bill is called the life and conception act. it would, and i'm quoting the bill language, implement equal protection under the 14th article of amendment to the constitution for the right to life of each born and pre born human person. how do you define? that it goes on to define a

human person's including it should every member of the species hamas each sapiens at all stages of life, here's the key part, including the moment of fertilization. frozen embryos have been fertilized so 14th amendment rights. right? a similar bill in the senate, we should note, is very similar language but it also explicitly carves out ivf. guess what? the house version makes no such exception. you think that's an oversight? i think it's intentional. i think house republicans know exactly what they're doing. it's both craven and extremely unpopular. i will talk to the former speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, about the future of reproductive rights in america, next. america, next.

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>> nancy pelosi had not yet begun her career in politics when the supreme court enshrined the constitutional right to abortion with roe v. wade. she was the first female speaker of the court -- passed legislation to restore abortion rights nationwide. those efforts went nowhere in the republican-led senate. now speaker emerita, nancy pelosi, continues to fight against the republican project to eliminate reproductive rights in america. she joins me. now great to have you, congresswoman. >> thank, you chris. lovely to be with you as we talk about matters that relate to america's families. >> yeah. i want to ask about this bill. it was so wild to me to watch them all rushed out with the

statements, which i understood. obviously there's a political crisis. 90% of americans found the alabama ruling off all. and then to just google, the fact that they get a majority of cosponsors on this bill that just plainly does what alabama does, when the alabama ruling does, do you think they know that they are on that bill? like, are they pretending to not know? like, what's going on? >> let's see what the title is. life at conception act. so they have to know what that means. i've said for years that people on the other side of the aisle need a lesson in the birds and the bees because sometimes they don't seem to understand. but the fact is that 125, and majority of the house gop, are co-sponsors of this legislature. that doesn't mean there aren't more who won't be supporting it. but it comes such an interesting time. instead we have in the house a place for them all to go if

they disagree with the alabama decision. congresswoman susan wild of pennsylvania has early on introduced a bill with senator duckworth in the senate, a corresponding bill called the access to family building act. and this would enable families to have the statutory right to have access to the technology and the rest in vitro perla zeeshan. it also empower the justice department to act upon those who would deprive women of those rights give women private action the right to private action if women try to define deprived him of. that it does more, but that's the essence of the bill. they could easily sign on to this bill to contain their enthusiasm for in vitro fertilization. instead they have life at contraception, which is a contradiction. >> what is striking here, as well, when you look at alabama they move quickly because they understood the politics of it, that it was completely upside

down. it strikes me as honestly just as a clear political play that mike johnson lighthouse teaming up with a schumer led senate to pass legislation to federally protected ivf will probably be a benefit to republicans. but my sense is that there's enough of the caucus that actually doesn't think it's okay that they're not gonna move to a vote on that. >> let's hope that that is not the case. as you've heard me say again and again, president lincoln said public sentiment is everything. there's nothing more eloquent to a member of congress then the voice of his or her own constituents. lincoln didn't say that. i did. we want people to weigh in with their members of congress. i've heard from people of faith, devout catholics, even nuns say this is a gift of god to enable families to have babies. and they have spent their life saying that that is what they want, and now when they have that opportunity they have

length it conception act. not contraception, eight of them in the house, eight republicans in the house voted for women to have a right to contraception. that means 195 of them voted to say women shouldn't have a right to contraception. >> there's a lot going on in congress this week. mike johnson is very clearly, i think, everyone would agree, over his head. i don't think that's a controversial assessment. meanwhile mitch mcconnell has announced to be stepping down as senate majority leader. i thought of you when i saw that announcement, because your careers have been peril what parallel and at times intertwined. i thought i wonder what nancy pelosi thinks of mitch mcconnell's announcement. >> i've worked with mitch for years. we had a similar position in the 90s as we had a corresponding role as the top down no crash and top republican on the house and senate committee on appropriations. i disagreed with him in a lot. he has racked us with the court in terms of women's right to

choose and so much more that this record is going down the path of. but we went we worked on other issues together. it's interesting to me, though, if i may say, i, for 20 years was in the leadership, either leader of the house, or speaker of the house. pass landmark legislation. affordable health care, the list goes on and on. rescue package, infrastructure bill, a pact act for our veterans. i hurry to save our planet, c.h.i.p.s. bill just to bring some things that are new. when i stepped aside, they said she stepped aside but she is still here. when he stepped aside end of an era. it's a guy thing, i now. but i have to just say, for women, we want our proper attention as well. in the event i wish him well out his decision. i worry about his health. i i am sad for his family last

recently, his sister. very strategic player in the congress. >> and one of the things that seems striking finally here, quickly, i think, i think he has been a wildly destructive force for american democracy, in my opinion. but whatever come after will be worse. is that your hunch as well? >> let's hope not. let me just say one place where we are in agreement with mitch is on this assistance for ukraine. we are fighting for the democracy in fighting for our democracy. we need to send the resources to the ukraine. and he has been a relentless champion on that score. and i want people to know that russia has been very evil whether it's kidnapping children raping women killing families and all the rest, but their army is bigger now than it was when it into ukraine and they're using money from people

escaping sanctions and the rest and getting help from iran and from china and other places to build their technology. so we will win in ukraine. we must. we have to send the money. we must. but they will be there in defeat and there will be a big military striving for 1 million and a half army by again using money to buy it. so we have a challenge. mitch mcconnell has been great on ukraine, and i thank him and salute him for that. >> we'll see if that bill comes up and how mike johnson negotiates that. we'll have you back to talk about that. speaker emerita nancy pelosi, thank you very much. donald trump's war to make -- and the truth about what's happening in with crime in joe biden's america. next. biden's america. next.

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babies dying from lack of nutrition, hydration. just yesterday the administrator which is one of the released a video saying levels of assistance pale in comparison to entry points. a part of the reason the israeli government is not letting eight and has to do

with political pressure from prime minister benjamin netanyahu's far-right government. today for instance, following that deadly incident, far right national security minister says that it shows causes madness, and repeat, because -- there should be no aid going in. for weeks, now israeli protesters have camped out one of the crossings to block aid trucks and getting into gaza. every day as this war goes on, things in gaza get worse. we are on the precipice now of watching -- hunches of thousands of people starve to death unless people -- she was just in -- rafah late last month -- what they are telling about the conditions. >> they are as dire as you just portrayed there. you know, when i was here if you months ago, how can you get

any worse? and clearly it got worse and worse. we are now seeing less aid go in and i saw when i was at the rafah border if you weeks ago. >> there is less going in now. >> there's less going in. when i was there about 130 trucks were going in, woefully inadequate because 500 trucks were going in before the conflict, now we are back to, dozens of 30 or 40 trucks a day going in. so needs are spiralling up, there is even less aid coming in. we were talking about the north there. there's about 253,000 people still trapped in the north. for gaza, we talk about most about rafah, in the north hundreds of thousands of people there. they have had almost any aid go in. >> that convoy i think was the first in a month. 300,000 people in the north, 1.8 million in the south, really crowded. 100,000 people have to admit sleeping on the streets waiting for convoys of trucks. they haven't come in a month. you saw what happened when if you came today. the israeli government

basically says, they have said a bunch of different things, it is the aid groups, they are not taking that hamas is taking on the aid, they are not doing anything to stop the flow of aid. is that true? >> not from what we are seeing, we haven't had any aid supplies being stolen from us, we haven't been able to get as many trucks in as we would like, we haven't been able to when the trucks get into actually get up to the north, we are not always able to get supplies distributed in gaza, in the last mile, because of security concerns, and continuous bombing and shelling. >> one of the things i think we have seen today, and the 300,000 people in northern gaza i think are at a real cute -- >> absolutely. >> they might all start today, that is not crazy or hyperbolic thing to say. >> now, our staff and colleagues in rafah, they're telling us they still have family and friends in the north, people have resorted to eating tree leaves, to eating animal food. there is nothing there. >> i read a quote from a man

today who was in that melee, and said he had been eating animal feed for a month. now part of what i think you see in northern gaza, my understanding is, there is a total vacuum, hamas as been routed more or less whether or not as far as we know, which means there is no government, there's no civil order, the israeli government has said very clearly, we do not want to provide civilian government here. so my understanding, tell me if i'm wrong, if it is a poster carpocalypse declared-scape in which there is no civil order whatsoever, there's no governing institution. >> i think that is right. that is what we are watching. and, there is such huge need. there is huge desperation. they haven't had any aid whatsoever, so they're already super weak, the resilience is, gone they are incredibly worried about their children. they are fighting for survival which is what i think any parent would do. >> there is discussion today about the u.s. doing airdrops.

there has been some air jobs that have gone to the water, air jobs are usually used in incredibly dire situations when you can't get in aid otherwise. what does save the children and the other ngos, what do you want to see, what has to happen now? >> what has to happen as the fighting needs to stop, that is first and foremost. that is preventing aid to come in and be delivered safely. >> there is no, i just want to be press on this, there is no means of providing the necessary amid the ongoing war. >> not of the scale that is necessary, not to the scale. we do in jobs, our colleagues there trying, everything and it will go out and try to put the lives on the line to get stuff out to people when we have it, and when we can do it as safely as possible, but what we need to see happen is a cease-fire, a truce, a lengthy truths, and not just to release hostages, that needs to happen as well of, course we need to get more supplies in. we need to get commercial supplies to be restarted.

there are no commercial goods anymore in the market. we need to make sure that the right items can get in. currently things like shelter, tent poles, fuel sometimes, generators or all stopped from going in. they are prohibited. >> those are prohibited items? >> they're >> prohibited, because it can also be used for nefarious reasons. everything that is useful can also use are not good reasons. so that is problematic. we need deconfliction to work. when we say we our office, our warehouse, our distributions have been in a certain place, we need those places to not be targeted. >> have they've been targeted? >> not targeted, but certainly collateral damage. we had -- in rafah that was hit a few weeks ago. collateral damage. people had to move and evacuate et cetera. that is happening over time. the deconfliction is not working. so our jobs are nice, it is creative, but it is a distraction, it is