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generations of today will be inspired by. >> reporter: a restoration of history, bringing it back to the center of american art. al roker, nbc news, new york. >> our thanks to al for that. "nightly news" and the "today" program for sharing, thank you. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media at mitchell reports and rewatch the best parts of our show on youtube. go to msnbc.com/andrea. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. today could mark the end of julian assange's years long fight to stay out of u.s. custody. the high stakes hearing in london, where the doj is trying to bring assange to justice for
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publicizing classified u.s. secrets. assange's wife says jail time is not the worst of it. she fears if he's extradited, he'll be killed. plus, with a new poll showing her 28 points down in south carolina, nikki haley is facing what might be the worst loss by a presidential candidate in their home state in modern history. yet, just in the last hour, she reiterated she's not going anywhere, vowing to push her campaign to super tuesday and beyond. is it a strategy or just denying political reality? and still no relief from the rain or wind or floodwaters that are making life miserable out in california. almost 90% of the state remains under a flood watch today, with big cities like l.a. and san diego taking the brunt of it. so when will things finally dry out? a lot to get to, but we begin with a major and potentially final extradition battle for julian assange in his fight not to have to go to the
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u.s. and face spying charges. 14 years after he began that fight, it feels particularly timely. do his alleged crimes amount to espionage or is he a journalist protected by the first amendment? is he, as his supporters claim, imprisoned for exposing wrongdoing? the case is bringing out protesters around the world, some of them right here in new york city, but also in cities like berlin and in rome, where they released doves in assange's honor. in croatia, where they hung signs off the balcony of the journalist building too, and in london, where crowds lined the streets with signs reading free julian assange, and his wife giving a warning. >> he should never be extradited to the united states. he would never be safe. the united states plotted to murder my husband, julian is a political prisoner and his life is at risk. what happened to navalny can happen to julian. >> this is just the latest chapter in a story of high drama
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that dates back more than a decade. prosecutors say assange is behind the publication of tens of thousands of military and diplomatic documents. the product of arguably the largest leak of classified information in u.s. history. but the story also includes accusations of sexual assault and rape, seven years of assange's exile at the ecuadorian embassy in london, five more in a high security prison after skipping bail. and it created an unlikely split, the obama administration decided against prosecuting assange, but trump and biden see it differently. nbc's josh lederman is outside the royal courts of justice in london. rick stengel was under secretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs.
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he's an msnbc political analyst. joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney and university of alabama law professor and msnbc legal analyst. josh, let me start with you. what exactly happened there today? >> reporter: well, chris, this is the end of the line and the last hope for julian assange in an extradition battle that spanned more than a decade now, including those seven years as you mentioned in ecuadorian embassy here. and in court today, assange's lawyers have been arguing that the judge should allow a full appeal to the british government's order that he be extradited back to the u.s. to face trial. based on really two buckets of arguments. first, they say he shouldn't be prosecuted in the first place, that essentially he's being prosecuted for political speech, that he is a journalist and a whistle-blower, not any type of a criminal. and that in fact the u.s. is trying to use this process to go after a political opponent. but they also have been making the argument as his wife stella
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assange did publicly today as well that this was also a human rights violation, because they say, first of all, that he could be a suicide risk if he's in prison in the u.s. they say his health is so frail, that in fact he could not even show up in court in person today. and they fear that the u.s. could imprison him for well over 100 years, put him in a maximum security prison, things that the u.s. has tried to assure the british government they would not in fact do if he is successfully extradited to the u.s. now, tomorrow will be the chance for the u.s. government to make its argument in court. according to the written submissions to the court, the u.s. plans to say, look, julian assange is accused of extremely serious crimes of conspireing to obtain huge troves of highly classified documents that were then dumped online in ways that they say exposed the identities of american citizens and put them at risk. they say he needs to go to the u.s. to face justice for crimes
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that they say have had a huge deleterious impact within the united states, chris. >> okay, richard, it has been a long time since julian assange first came on the scene, for a lot of people i'm sure the details are foggy. you actually spoke to him back in 2010. he's not the one, we should say, who actually obtained the documents we're talking about, that was chelsea manning, the former u.s. soldier who was actually convicted in 2013 and had her sentence commuted in '17. so, with that backdrop, remind people where assange fits into this story and why we should care about this case. >> well, chris, thank you for that. i've been on both sides of it as a journalist and you flashed that picture of "time," i interviewed assange for that issue and had been a government official who is tasked with protecting secure and classified information. the reason the case is so important and so complicated is that it is on this continuum
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between national security and free speech rights. advocates for assange say he's like daniel elsburg in the pentagon papers, that he is releasing information about the u.s., which the american public has a right to know. the government in the case of the obama administration, the trump administration, and the biden administration say that these are violations of the 1917 espionage act. that he's releasing classified information, which is against the law, and also as you mentioned, jeopardizing human intelligence, actual human resources, which is the most protected information of all. >> so, you well laid out the two sides here. there is a decision that has to be made by the judges today. what are they looking at? >> well, they'll look at the first instance in these questions of extradition. once the united states makes the
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request, the decision about whether to grant extradition and also the timeline are largely in the hands of the country where the defendant is located. so they'll decide these issues as a matter and first instance of their own law and they'll also take into consideration perhaps some of the european human rights issues that are at stake. but under the treaty between our two countries, if assange is extradited to the united states, he'll have the opportunity to make all of these arguments. he'll be able to assert first amendment rights, he'll be able to argue that he's being wrongfully targeted for protected conduct. the reality is that these are very serious violations of the espionage act. he's not looking at the 150 years in custody his lawyers have suggested that by the way. under sentencing guidelines in this country, it is a far more modest sentence, perhaps four to six years, there is even some
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possibility he could get credit for some of the time he's already spent in cñcustody. so, a very different picture from the ones his lawyers have presented. >> i want to play a little more, if i can, rick, of what his wife said earlier today. and ask you to put on your "time" magazine hat for a minute. here's that. >> he's being accused of journalism, this case is an admission by the united states that they now criminalize investigative journalism. it is an attack on all journalists, all over the world, it is an attack on the truth, and it is an attack on the public's right to know. >> so take us back to the obama administration, when they made that decision not to prosecute and then fast-forward to trump and biden and they made a different decision. >> yes, her rhetoric is powerful. i wouldn't say that it is accurate. that is the discussion we're trying to have. is this journalism or is it the
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release of classified information that jeopardizes the wealth and welfare of americans? and the problem with assange is that he also got up to a lot of no good that is mentioned in a superseding indictment, which is that he tried to penetrate classified computer systems of the pentagon, and the state department, that he actually forced and kind of tried to persuade people like chelsea manning to get that information. that's a little different than investigative journalism. >> and yet you have major newspapers, you have amnesty international, richard, saying that this should not be happening, that this is indeed a first amendment argument. and i wonder if you have any of the concerns that his wife has
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expressed, but also attorneys and other supporters of his that he just wouldn't be safe in the united states, that there has to be another alternative. >> i can't really speak to that, but i think certainly the analogy to navalny is absurd. i mean, if assange was in the united states, he would have all of the rights that prisoners have in the united states. there would be press covering him night and day, there wouldn't be anything like what happened to navalny. and i would say, if you really do care about these issues of free speech versus national security, it should be decided in a court of law, it should eventually even go up to the supreme court. and as joyce mentioned, the penalties are not anything like the gigantic ones that his lawyers are talking about. this is a very serious issue, which deserves to be in the courts, and deserves to be in the highest courts. >> there have been some other things suggested here, joyce, i wonder if you can tell us is this just a question of to
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extradite or to not extradite, because, for example, could they keep him in the uk? australians officials said he's our citizen, let him come back here, that's, i assume, not what's on the table today, joyce. >> that's right. there are always a lot of different political solutions in these situations. but the request that the united states has made is to bring assange here to stand trial on charges in u.s. courts. >> josh lederman, joyce vance, thank you, both. richard stengel, you're going to stay with me. we have a developing story out of russia where an american citizen has been arrested for helping raise money on behalf of the ukrainian war effort. the independent russian news outlet has identified her as casinia carolina, but msnbc has not confirmed that. russian officials say the 33-year-old is a dual citizen who lives in los angeles. earlier today, the russian federal security service
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released video it says shows the woman after she was detained. you can see her eyes are covered. she is being held on suspicion of treason, punishable by up to 20 years in prison in russia. moments ago there was an audio only briefing and white house national security communications adviser john kirby told reporters that u.s. officials are digging into this, and he reiterated to all u.s. citizens a warning against traveling to russia. so, rick, let me ask you about this, is this just one more example of vladimir putin trying to flex his muscle, push the united states and the world to show either how much he can get away with or try to use someone who is a dual american citizen in some sort of deal? >> well, you said it, chris. i'm going to say what john kirby couldn't say, this is a cynical desperate effort on the part of russia and vladimir putin to
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effectively take an american hostage, dual citizen hostage in order to use as a bargaining chip. that's what we saw with brittney griner, that's what we, i think, is happening with evan gershkovich. the russians use this thing in a very cynical way, the idea it is treason is absurd. she's raising money for an independent sovereign nation which russia invaded. so i would say it is not a good faith effort at all. but the united states will make a good faith effort to get her released. >> richard stengel, good to see you. thank you. and we also just learned within the past hour or so that the u.s. is poised to impose a major new sanctions package that officials say is designed to hold russia accountable for the death of alexei navalny. according to john kirby, the details will be unveiled on friday. president biden has blamed vladimir putin for navalny's death in prison last week, saying there is no doubt the russian president was behind it. still ahead, the sprint to
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south carolina just four days before the republican primary. can nikki haley pull off what would be an enormous political upset in her home state or will donald trump's dominance continue? we're back in 60 seconds. with nurtec odt i can treat and prevent my migraine attacks all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion and stomach pain. talk to your doctor about nurtec today. jordan's sore nose let out a fiery sneeze, so dad grabbed puffs plus lotion to soothe her with ease. puffs plus lotion is gentle on sensitive skin and locks in moisture to provide soothing relief. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. america's #1 lotion tissue. breathing claritin clear is like... (♪♪) is he? confidently walking 8 long haired dogs and living as if he doesn't have allergies? yeah. fast relief of your worst allergy symptoms, like nasal congestion.
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we have new indications today of just how strong and deep donald trump's republican support is. there is a new poll in nikki haley's home state of south carolina, it shows him leading her by nearly two to one. 63 to 35%. it is an indication of a primary season that actually never really materialized. haley, as local headlines describe it, a republican whose longest of long shot chances depends not on fellow republicans, but cross over democratic and independent voters. it is a primary where trump will likely continue to spend more time in courtrooms than on the
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campaign trail. and joe biden's forays are dominated by fund-raising trips. he's heading to california today after his campaign announced it raised $42 million in january. but raising money is one thing. raising enthusiasm among the base is another. haley clearly sees a primary still very much in play, be last hour in greenville she gave what is being billed as a big speech on the state of the race. >> south carolina will vote on saturday. but on sunday i'll still be running for president. i'm not going anywhere. [ applause ] dropping out would be the easy route. i've never taken the easy route. >> nbc's ali vitali is reporting from that location, greenville, south carolina. also with us, jennifer palmieri, former white house communications director under president obama, former clinton campaign communications director, and msnbc political analyst, and former republican
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congressman david jolly of california, also an msnbc political analyst. okay, ali, what was the case that nikki haley just made to stay in this race beyond the fact i'm tough and i never take the easy route? >> reporter: chris, this is actually a speech that we have heard her give in parts along the campaign trail. i've heard answers from her in interviews i've done with her over the past few weeks, during interview appearances on other networks. this is haley's biggest platform yet. one of her campaign's own making, for her to say she's not going anywhere. the fact there are still people guessing in the wings and sort of foot tapping her out the door of the primary this is yet another chance for haley to say she's not going anywhere yet because voters haven't had their say. if you had one takeaway from this, it is that you shouldn't be looking for nikki haley to drop out the day after she likely loses her home state of south carolina. you referenced that poll, it is just the latest in a string that we have seen that show haley really falling to her top
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competitor donald trump, but i also think as much as there were things in the speech that we have heard from her before, there were also things that maybe she said them before, but they're cast in new light. this part of the speech where she likened this primary and a potential coronation of trump to something soviet-esque. listen to that and i'll tell you why it struck me on the back end. >> people have a right to have their voices heard. and they deserve a real choice, not a soviet style election where there is only one candidate, and he gets 99% of the vote. [ applause ] we don't anoint kings in this country. we have elections. and donald trump, of all people, should know we don't rig elections. at the end of the day, the only candidate who is helping joe biden is donald trump. because trump is the only
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republican biden can beat. >> reporter: several shots at trump there, chris, but i think the one that strung me is you can't talk about russia right now without talking about the death of alexei navalny, the lack of condemnation from president trump of putin in that scenario and she is saying that for trump to want this primary to be over now makes him putin-esque in that desire and that's not the way that america does elections. in was one other part that also stuck out to me here as i covered her over the course of the last year, i've never seen haley get physically emotional. in this speech, when she was talking about her husband michael who is deployed on a tour now, she never chokes up even though she talks about him often, but today was an exception, she got visibly emotional when she was talking about her husband, his service to this country, the way that she wishes that she and her children could talk to him
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tonight, and that they could be together, but that this is what families of folks who are deployed with our military deal with on a regular basis when they are sent on a deployment. it is, again, something that she talks about often, but today cast in new light as she got visibly emotional and, of course, michael haley is someone that trump has been targeting over the course of the last few weeks, none of that is lost on the haley campaign as they make these remarks here today. >> it is interesting listening to her talk, because you're so used to hearing an untraditional candidate in former president trump. one of the questions biden was asked and it happened so recently we haven't even turned the tape around yet, he was asked if he would rather face haley or trump and he said i don't care. do you think that's true? either of him or of most democrats? >> i think it is hard to wrap your head around it because we know it is going to be trump. and i think that haley, you
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know, she's a very smart candidate, she's playing the long game here and you can see how she -- she lays out metrics for herself about how we know -- right now, she wants her team, she wants donors, she wants people in those super tuesday states to know two weeks out i will still be in this race come march 5th. and, you know, and then to wrap trump up in a sort of -- you can harken back to what the republican party used to be, right, used to be, used to be this bulwark against communism. and then, of course, talking of her husband and his sacrifice, it is very, i imagine, very personal for her, that would
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make me quite angry for the kind of comments that the president said, president trump made about her, about her husband, and about people who serve in general and being dismissive of that. you can see her trying to reach out to the more established part of the republican party, what it used to be, and to say, remember this is who we are and i'm going to be in this race for a long time and you can still join me, even though we know trump is going to end up as the nominee. >> so, david, if you want to look at the plus side of this, she has many people would say run a smart campaign. she is very strategic. she does have her moments when she is on the stump really connecting with people, but, david, if her best bet this weekend is to get people who aren't republicans to vote for her, that's her play and places where anybody can vote in a primary. i mean, how does she expect to become the republican nominee? >> yeah, she is the last competitor standing against
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donald trump. it speaks to her steeliness and her foresight and, you know, look, i think part of this as jen alluded to, we can contextualize as the expectations game. she is a candidate playing the expectations game and those are very low expectations to simply say i'm not dropping out and that should be the expectation of the media and voters. so she is staying in. and the question is, why? what is it in it? she is not going to win. i don't think she believes she is going to win. why is she sticking it out? some say she's at terminal grade, after challenging donald trump this far, she can't go anywhere, but there is a soft movement afoot that you see in the 30% of republicans that continue to support her, and this is newly developing chris a little bit, the weed them out wing, donald trump win or lose is gone after this term and maybe the fight for the party happens four years from now, is that on haley's mind? i don't know. and the absolute wild card,
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which i don't think she would do, but if there is one candidate in the country today that no labels would love to have, it is nikki haley. she has shown she can hold a certain constituency. >> yeah. and that would really throw the race into something, wouldn't it? look, jen if you want to go back four years, on the democratic side its would a lot about do you like joe biden better than donald trump, right? but maybe now it is do democrats and independents still feel that anti-trump fervor, enough to get involved, enough to even vote, because "the new york times" reports that in some cases they're struggling to sustain this, searing anger toward donald trump. democrats can hope those voters in the middle, particularly, are more tuned in this fall, but can they count on that? when they talked to "the new york times" reporter, they used words like exhausting, dumpster fire, crisis fatigue.
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>> i also use the words exhausted, trump is a dumpster fire and i have crisis fatigue, dealing with this for the last eight years. but i'm going to turn out and vote for biden and i just -- i know that all of these -- i know all these people say this to katie, we see time and again, the campaign raised $42 million by the campaign, they have $130 million of cash on hand, that's the most cash on hand the democrat has ever had at this point in the race. you saw in the new york race, the long island special election, democrats continued to turn out to vote. and it is -- i just don't think that people being frustrated and fired and tired of trump hanging around and tired of the fight means they're giving up. people are continuing to turn out to vote and giving money. >> do you get any sense of growing concern within the republican party where i'm sure you still have friends that we are now getting into trouble's
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trials, he just lost a big one, a civil case, next month his first criminal trial is going to start. are you hearing any worry about fatigue on the republican side, especially the word chaos? >> i think the positions have been there and are hard in this cycle. what i mean by that is there is a line of thought among republicans that trump could be the weakest candidate because we see in general elections he does move persuadables toward biden. there are strong opinion among republicans, even nonmaga republicans that donald trump injects the most energy and turns out new voters, which i think is why even facing criminal trials or culpability, i do think to jen's point, the fighting coalition is holding. we have seen it in each psycho. they're exhausted but know their vote is for the future of the country. if there is any attrition in that coalition, it has been buoyed post-dobbs.
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i think this is a neck and neck race. i think joe biden can beat the former president. >> ali vitali, jennifer palmieri and david jolly, thank you, all. we have gotten the tape back from the white house. the president heading to marine one on his way to california, stopped to talk to reporters. here's that conversation. >> are you ready? >> yes, sir. >> i'm looking at you. i'm looking at you. hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. what i came to tell you was i told you we would be announcing sanctions on russia. we'll have a major package announced on friday. i'll be happy to sit with you all while doing that, okay? [ inaudible ] >> i don't care. >> i don't know if you can hear the final question. he's trying to listen to it but
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was asked if he has a plan for rafah, he walked away, it did appear maybe he heard that question and you see him headed to marine one and what will be certainly a very lucrative day for the president heading to a fund-raiser in california. right now, we're closely monitoring a small plane crash right next to the freeway in farmingdale, new york. the faa telling our local affiliate that the plane went down because of engine failure, two people were on board. you see cars passing by on the southern state parkway as emergency vehicles gather with significant law enforcement present. no word on how the folks inside may have fared. do we have any of that, control room? no. not yet. we'll keep you posted on that. still to come, the weather mess in california, dangerous, costly and not over yet. plus, new details about the shooter accused of killing two minnesota cops and a firefighter paramedic. was he even allowed to own a
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even a giant boulder that landed right in the middle of the pacific coast highway in malibu. nbc's priya sadar is in l.a., and michelle grossman is here in new york with me. priya, things got so bad in santa barbara as i understand it, there are still some evacuation warnings in place. what is going on right now? >> that's right. well, here in los angeles, there is a brief pause for mother nature, but we're certainly not in the clear just yet. 35 million californians still remain under a flash flood watch until wednesday morning. in santa barbara, that city got pounded by rain, ten inches in a matter of hours which actually caused the santa barbara airport to completely close down. we also saw as you mentioned some main thorough fares and roads across central and coastal california be shut down due to both flooding and mudslides. and, of course, this comes on the heels of two atmospheric
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rivers that pounded the state just two weeks ago, already first 51 days of this year, california has seen 75% of its annual average rainfall. the state is just getting battered with this winter weather. let's take a listen to what one person in santa barbara had to say who got stuck in the airport when the airport closure happened. >> i got here at 4:00 a.m. and within ten minutes they said the airport is closed for the day. and it is flooding. southwest did everything they could to rebook elsewhere. so i'm headed to vegas and my hometown is boise. >> and just to give you a sense of how powerful this storm is, there were palm trees, 100-year-old palm trees that fell in the state park, which has now caused that state park
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to close due to flooding and those powerful winds that are occurring. you can see the pictures right there. we also have been hearing from officials about people who are going into standing water in their vehicles and who are getting stranded. so there already have been quite a few water rescues that have taken place in the last 24 hours, chris. >> what a mess. okay, michelle. what more is in store today? >> well, we're going to see this threat all day long. not only is it a hassle, it is life threatening. looking at the potential for more mudslides, flash flooding and the potential for flooding all throughout the state of california from chico to monterey, santa barr, san diego. most of the state is under a flood wash that includes 35 million people. this will stay in tact as we go throughout the day. tomorrow we'll see that let up. today, heavy rain continues, especially why you see the darker colors, the reds, oranges, yellows, that's where we see the downpours over saturated ground we saw in that video. renewed risk for the flash
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floodings and the mudslides. then tomorrow, scattered showers still lingering in the west. we won't be dry, but we'll see a little bit of letup there, most of the heavy mountain snow in the great basin, the rockies, we're seeing higher elevation snow and feet of snow in some spots. up to two feet in some spots. in is what radar looks like right now. we're not in the clear in northern california. most of the heavy rain is falling throughout southern california. where you see the yellows, reds and oranges, that's where we see the heavy rain falling, an inch per hour in some spots. that's why we're concerned about flooding, concerned about flash flooding and the overall general accumulation will be 1 to 3 inches. that's a lot of rain in a short amount of time in this area, especially over really saturated ground. we expect the heavier rain. along the coast here is where we could see the heaviest amounts of rain. could see more than 3 inches of rain. heavy rainfall rates of an inch per hour, especially when you see this in los angeles, you'll see that, that's what we're expecting as we go throughout
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the next couple of hours, temecula to san diego as we go throughout this tuesday. higher elevations it snowing. we're looking at a lot of snow. we have winter weather advisories that is in the white. winter storm warnings, in the pink. shasta mountain, that's where we're expecting the highest the amounts, we could see one to two feet of snow. in portions of the sierra nevada mountains, this will extend to the rockies tomorrow. that's where the heavy snow will fall on wednesday. back to you. >> 6 to 12 inches. >> yes. two feet in some spots. >> michelle, priya, thank you both. still ahead, she gave millions of followers with her youtube videos about family, but today, vlogger ruby was in court. ruby was in court. all my stresses just melt away. i hear that. this bad boy can fix anything. yep, tough day at work, nice cruise will sort you right out. when i'm riding, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity.
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consequences of warm and rainy winter weather and it's impact on economies. the central new york, the average annual snowfall is 127 inches but so far, they've only seen 34 inches of snow and two major winter festivals have had to be canceled as a result. in vermont, one of the fastest warming states, the maple syrup supply is in jeopardy and warmer waters are threatening the salmon industry in oregon. those higher temperatures changing the landscape key to the midwest as well. >> reporter: this sound out here is bad news.
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>> it should be more firm. >> reporter: on minnesota's frozen millax late, we measure about 13 inches of ice. in a normal february, it should be more than two feet. >> normally to have snow on top of it and it would be all solid, clear ice. >> reporter: but thanks to an unseasonably warm winter, a lake that should be covered is a ghost town. what has this season been like? >> nonexistent. >> reporter: when we visited this month, the resort should have been buzzing. hundreds of ice fishers. but this year, about the only thing killing the chill is our business. >> my bartender, my cooks, the hours. my waitresses. they are truly the victims of this. >> reporter: you just don't have as much work for them. >> no, i have practically zero work for them. >> reporter: thin ice can mean more rescues. >> i got you. >> reporter: even for wildlife.
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minnesota's known as the land of 10,000 lakes and every one of them is supposed to freeze over like this in the winter, but the state says that climate change is taking its toll. over the last 50 years or so, the lake ice season here has shrunk by up to two weeks. this season especially bizarre and frustrating for michael, who's been ice fishing since age 4. >> the fish have been biting like crazy. >> reporter: he tries to come out every day. >> i sit in my house just waiting to come. >> reporter: he's one of the people not scared away by warm weather. what does that mean to you? >> i'm very thankful for every single person that walks through my door. >> reporter: as our ever changing world puts winter at risk of literally melting away. >> that made me very nervous seeing jesse in there. from under the sea to up in the
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