a campaign person told me that the song he was singing was behind the sea by bob dylan. i can't rate his karaoke skills. that's tonight. he still in the building soaking up some of the adoration from supporters who are happy with the result. the next step for tom suozzi is that he needs to get sworn into congress. i spoke to suozzi briefly after the election was announced, after his victory was announced. a teammate he hopes to get sworn in this week. he did not say what they, but a source familiar with his plans tells me it could be as early as thursday. given that tomorrow might be early, and if it's not thursday, he'll have to wait another week and a half, because the house goes on recess. when he does, that republican margin, already paper thin, will shrink further. it will be 2:19, republicans to 13 democrats, and then he has several months more of legislating before the midterm elections this fall. you have to do a government funding bill. they're looking to authorize the faa. there are a lot of this is the time to have a big. don tom suozzi is going to be on the ballot yet again in november. in a matter of months in 2020,

for when this bellwether district, the sea comes back up for the voters, like many before, like several others that flip from blue to red in 2022 and gave republicans control of the house of representatives. the victory for tom suozzi has given a lot of democrats, including in this room, confidence that they get this elsewhere and get the house back this fall, stephanie? >> all eyes on long island tonight. sahil, thank you. folks, do not go anywhere. updates on the special election in new york are coming up right now. coming up right now. it is midnight on the east coast, i am stephanie ruhle and thank you for joining us for our coverage of the special election in new york dirt congressional district. nbc news can officially project that democrat tom suozzi has a defeated republican mazi pilip. this is, of course, the house seat vacated by george santos when he was expelled by congress. it is a huge pick up for democrats, with the margins and

the alice razor thin. suozzi spoke to supporters earlier this evening. watch this. >> for the people of long island and queens are sick and tired of the political bickering. they have had it. they want us to come together and solve problems so now, we have to carry the message of this campaign to the ignited states congress and across our entire country. [applause] it's time, time to move beyond the petty partisan bickering and the finger-pointing. it's time to focus on how to solve the problems. kornacki at the big board. stay for people just tuning in. set this up for us. >> yes, so basically also all the vote. we have a little more trickling and. this is basically what you're seeing inright here. 97% of the votes counted in new york's third district. cease-fire wedding this thing

and thomas beating fellow up. the margin here is basically seven 20% a margin call for suozzi tonight and i think the differences that is the big picture significance, in this district that covers a lot. this is nassau county long island classic new york city suburbs. and in the eastern edge of queens right here, a smaller portion actually technically in new york city although fairly suburban nation as well. 20% a little less than 20% of the vote coming out there so that's a district that we are talking about here. we see a democratic margin with eight points tonight, what is interesting is here is the journey that this district has been on. and the 2020 presidential election this district voted for joe biden by eight points. so the democrats in the presidential race four years ago carried this by a healthy margin. and then in the 2022 midterm elections the republican george santos of course carried this district by eight points.

so this things swan by democrats by a 20, to republicans by eight and 22. that's a shift of 16 points. and if you think back to 2022, there was all that talk, all that home from republicans that there would be a red wave in 2022. that they would when all of these house districts, nationally, that they think he would come in the suburbs. when the red wave did not really materialize and most of the atcountry. but they did in this district. and it did in nassau county, it, did on long island, and it did in a few other parts of new york. so much that democrats probably lost their house majority in 2022, entirely because of new york and entirely because of districts like this third district. so that s is the backdrop for i the question that we had tonight was with his district, with this suburban district then defy what we saw in a lot of suburban districts nationally in 2022, and actually experienced a red wave

politically? would it continue to vote like that in the 2024 special election or would it go back and vote like it did in the 2020 presidential election? and i think we have this clear an answer as you could possibly get because the suozzi margin is gonna land at eight points. democrats by eight republicans by eight and they'll stephanie tonight democrats by eight. >> when george santos actually won, do people know this guy? where they voting for george santos? or really was just part of that temporary red wave? >> it's orhard to say that it h anything at all. very much to do with george santos himself. the republicans in this district where even saying, , they were saying hey, our fault, we can that him. take that for whatever you well. but that's what trepublicans were saying in this election. i resay that because again this is the third district here. biden won it by eight it one republican and staff here in the south shore is the fort district. biden won it by 14 points in

2020. 14 points for joe biden and then elected a republican. anthony d'esposito in 2022. by the way, with this districts going back to the democrats, the is going to d'esposito in the district, is one of the most nervous republican incumbents anywhere in the country. there were some other districts that where republican held very competitive in the 2020 presidential election democrats thought they had a chance that one may be even ideal both of those. democrats lost all four of the congressional districts based on long island. they lost a district where in 2022 sean patrick maloney, the chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee which controls the strategy for the house democratic campaign nationally, he lost his own seat in new york in 2022. and also and district up i syracuse where retired democrats thought they had a great opportunity. they lost that. that's why rti say democrats ca

up five seats short of hanging on to the house. against the odds in 2022 and you can find five seats in new york that slipped through their grasp in 2022. so eii think again that is the significance here and it was not just in this district, it was all across long island. and it's not just in the congressional race. traditionally on long island especially in nassau county. if you went way back and i'm talking 30 40 50 years ago, there was a dominant republican political machine. you talk about in the big cities where democrats in the old days, that republicans had the biggest political machine in poamerica. and in nassau county. that machine in the last couple of years has experience that come back. republicans won back in 2021, the office of county executives in nassau county. they won control of a county legislature. a county board of commissioners. a county legislature they got control of that. the red wave at multiple levels of the ballot in nassau county

returning it to the old days of republican dominance. and i think republicans not because of what was happening at that level, and what had happened in 2022, they could just switch it. as you can see, they expelled from the ashouse, put a new candidate in, and there would be a strong political tie. a very strong republican apparatus to power that candidate. as you can see here, it swung back. 16 points this way, and now 16 points that way. >> i just cannot believe we are having caan entire night dedicated to nassau county, long island. we need to take our audience on a field trip there. people don't a necessarily know that the north and south shore of long island might as well be to entirely separate planets. we're really going to have to dig deep. i'm just listening to steve i'm like wow we are about to go deep. first garden city, next time we're going to nassau. we might talk about middle school lacrosse next. >> that's a decoy there. >> exactly,.

with that, let's bring in simone sanders-townsend. you know her as call as of the fabulous new msnbc morning show, the weekend, also this speak spokesperson for vice president harris. also someone i haven't seen in asia's senior political editor here and former democratic near colleague, max, and former republican david jolly of florida. here's rewhat i want to talk about. democrats did better than expected in the last midterms. they had huge whence in state races last fall. and now tonight, a double digit when. should this not shake republicans to their car, max? >> of course it should. it should not just shake them to the court in a political sense tit should shake them to the choir for a policy sense. look at what happened in the last couple of weeks. and attempted impeachment of the secretary of homeland security then a successful impeachment of the secretary. >> that will go nowhere in the

senate? >> that will of course go nowhere. but they knew that and they did it nonetheless. a rejection of a bipartisan immigration bill, amongst many other key facets of that bill from the senate constant obstructionism, and above all else constantly kissing up to donald trump. that was the republican party in the last three weeks, and the voters who have shown very much that they are open to vote for either side over the course of the last few years, they openly and resulted in lee rejected it. and republicans thought that they were going to love it. so there should be a message that the republicans should come to the table and try to, for once in their lives, be adults and govern. but something tells me that so they are not going to do it because one person does not want them to do it. and that is donald trump. >> dj t. mr. jolly, your take away tonight? >> i agree with max. i think the top line is that republicans continue to do everything wrong. everything absolutely

everything wrong. to put them in nga position. candidates matter, and particularly in a special election. i think tonight that has to be acknowledged. tom suozzi a strong candidate in the special election can make that spread. maybe not so strong. but what we saw is despite some of the questions and reservations either legitimate or just hand-wringing about democrats right now on the economy the,, conversation you are just having. it's good, but maybe not great people's of questions on the border. president lebiden is still upsi down. but when you put inside of voters a binary choice about where we are today, and where we aare going. versus handing the keys to republicans. look at what republicans are doing and they're saying. wait a minute republicans continue to do everything around. why would i trust them with the future of the country? and iti think that is the big thing. look, special elections in march before the november election allow a lot of message testing. republicans had every message to fire into this race. they had all the money that they cewanted to spend.

and they hacame up short in the district that george santos had one. george santos won this district. and they got humiliated tonight. the lesson? and republicans continue to do everything wrong and they refused to learn from their mistakes. >> messaging was tested. 's suozzi said the opposite lies about me and i'm gonna hit you over the head. everyone. >> mine was investing makes a difference. this g district is 20% api. and the suburbs are the barbs. suburbs used to be called wide for white women. people thought you go to the suburbs, and you're talking to white women. nowadays when you're talking about the suburbs across this country, you are not just talking about white women, or white people you're talking about asian pacific islander, black people, latino folks, diversity, america. get with me folks. and that is what happened here. you know i talked to yang, who worked a lot in a different kind of politics in new york.

advice and goldman's congressional right this last time. he worked in the api victory fun and they ran an independent expectation or directly targeted to api voters. and you cannot discount what that meant for the results we're seeing tonight. grace ming congresswoman, campaigned a lot with swansea in the last couple of weeks. was very aggressive out there. on top of that suozzi himself backing them in the nose when in it came to immigration. he, notably, the first press conference that pilip dead. she did it in emigration in front of one of one of the shelters that was pulled up. tom suozzi pulled up and had a press conference right next to her. he cosaid i agree. but let me tell you how she just complain it did not have a plan. but then what republicans pulled back, just kowtowed, bethany to donald trump on the border deal, and the bill that d they said that they wanted and now that they're not gonna vote for because donald trump does not want it. tom suozzi again said look at what they are doing. they are not serious people.

you cannot sent this lady to congress. and voters paid attention to that. >> all right that, mark what has been the biggest surprise for you tonight? >> well, i think we are underestimating a little bit this scandal around george santos. and often i've been covering these types of special elections, stephanie, for the last two decades and. when there is a scandal that we saw for george santos or other kinds of resignations or expulsion in his case that the party that controls that seed s often ends up hanging a penalty with voters. and maybe because of depressed turnout. it was a decade ago when anthony weiner ended up resigning from congress, very close up in new york city. and democrats lost that special election, republicans ended up winning it. one of the reasons why was due to that scandal. but i also mentioned that the special election from a decade ago, it is instructive. that happened that year before barack obama's reelection. and the special elections aren't always predictive of

what ends up happening because of the electorate that is fundamentally different seeing a special election versus a general election on the presidential side so this is a great night for democrats. they continue the street of doing very well in these types of special elections. low turnout matches, but whether we can translate that fully to what ends up happening a wyear from now, will not onl and that being a democrat versus eirepublican but also libertarians, green party, this was just a one-on-one matchup in the electorate, and just the composition, the candidates are gonna be fundamentally different year from now. >> david, you are not a democrat. but you did get elected in a special election just like this. what can you tell us about being on the inside of this kind of race? >> yes, so it was march before november critical election in 2014. it was l that district that barack obama had won, but was held by congressional republicans. a perfect swing district, even

tighter than the one we're watching tonight. the biggest takeaway of all is that yes, candidates matter. they don't control the resources in the special elections like this, the national parties do. i think that's important because there hionwas so much money, maybe $20 million spent on tv. a lot of it on immigration, some of it on reproductive freedom, a lot of it on prime. and the national parties got to see in realtime what is working the cycle, and what is not and they learned what they could take a november, and how they could win competitive races. and i think the reason it's so critical. particularly what the democrats could take tonight, what tom suozzi's when is there is a real possibility that the house of representatives as a fireball for democrats. the presidential races next, nick it's a bit of a coin flip. myself or joe biden could easily win the popular vote. there is a blinking light on the electoral college, we'll see what happens. but soon as it goes to republican, and just because of

the speeds that are up this cycle, it's really hard for democrats to control the senate. let's olsay donald trump wanted to pull off on a lecturer college victory, and republicans take the senate? the house is the firewall, not just for democratic priorities, but in many ways to try to protect democracy. and so what they tested in the suozzi race, the lessons of the numbers that they could take of that and translate in november are critically, critically important to where we find ourselves a year from now. >> what do you think some? and >> i dothink that's absolutely correct. i have said for a long time privately that democrats are really gonna have to muck it up royally for hakeem jeffries not to be the next speaker of the house. the way that the numbers are shaking out, just how these races are looking, the additional majority black opportunity district created an alabama, as well as louisiana. that's a mentioned that redistricting that's atgonna happen in new york. we don't know what this district, to be very clear, it's gonna look like come november. and so this very same race, tom

suozzi it's gonna have to run another race yet again and we don't know what his district makeup will be. one can argue it will be one a little bit more favorable for democrats. and so the senate? i think it's a large, uphill battle. but the senate is very, very, very important. i just don't know if the numbers get there. so yes, house democrats are gonna be very important to the presidents reelection campaign. house democrats frankly need to be some of the most vocal people out there. if you look at this last week it has been house democrats that have been leading the charge on making sure that going on television, they're quoted in the papers they're doing their social videos. making sure that the american people are aware of what is happening and pushing back on media narratives that are frankly just incorrect. >> max? >> you know, remember this happened a few hours ago. this sham impeachment. so i think why is this such a big deal? hundreds of these seats, the republicans would not have had enough votes to successfully

impeach the secretary of homeland security if tom swansea were in congress. >> that's why they have to do it tonight. >> that's why they had to do, it but i also think they did ity because they thought it was a political win for them and. so it is clear as they how significant this is but there is another very clear point about this election. there's a message for democrats nationwide which is that the average american voter is supportive of democrats policies. they're supportive of the ways in which the democratic party has rescued the economy. they're supportive of investing in our economy and being there for those who need government the most. but if you scare the hell out of them about democrats they will run to the other side. so what tom suozzi did tonight is he took those able, weird stuff they say about democrats and he went right to the camera and he said ghthat is not who i am. and democrats need to do that more. i've been guilty of not doing

that. democrats have to do it and when they do people will feel safe, comfortable, and secure voting for the democratic party. the democrats will take back the house. >> mark i want to go back to appoint someone was making about suburban voters. the knee jerk reaction is often suburban women, jewel cleaver, and karen brady. that's not who is occupying the suburbs of america anymore. help us understand this changing democratic. these voters will be crucial in november. >> yes, not all suburbs are created equally stephanie. but you are exactly right. our suburbs and a lot of ways has become extensions of our larger hacities. so the suburbs in the 1950s do not match what the suburbs that we see outside of my area of washington d.c. or certainly in a lot of the big metropolitan areas that are gonna be battleground states that i'm talking about. the suburbs of philadelphia which are always crucial but stephanie you ought to meet voters where they are and david

was just talking about the national parties and their messaging and again i was just struck on the immigration messaging that democrats and tom suozzi had. when they took republicans head on and they said we actually doc need to fix our borders, and tom suozzi was taking a moderate towe need to get contrt of the situation. did not play defense at all and we're gonna see if that actually carries forward. again immigration has been an issue that poll after poll shows republicans with a big advantage. republicans thought this would be the one issue that they could maybe be able to win on in this particular district and they were not able to do so. so that gives democrats a playbook to go back to a year from now. >> but of course every district is different. david do you think that we're gonna see more democratic candidates take the center straight like we saw from swansea? or it completely depends on the candidate that they represent. i mean long island?

that's a centrist place. >> yeah, atbut i don't know if has to be about ideology as much as it can be about the contrast and governing or lack of. this arguments about rejecting the bipartisan immigration deal that the republicans did, or impeaching mayorkas without a plan. in many ways, americas trial can help democrats. because this is one of the very few times that democrats have turned the tables on republicans on this issue of immigration. staff, you asked about my special election ten years ago, and there is an anecdote that is very telling from where we are right now. i came through the primary, the republican primary in that special election. and we were broke after winning the primary. no money for the general. the democrats have cleared the field, the candidate had all the money the day after the primary, and we did not know to do. and my consultant, one of the best in the game said, we are going up with an analog immigration. we have no polling on it but it works, immigration always works. that was ten years ago and it has not been solved. and the american voters have caught on to the roofs, and the scheme that republicans play

with immigrations, and caravans, an invasion, and poisoning the blood. when they look at that bipartisan deal that democrats, and l joe biden frankly, we're going to swallow and and that themselves. and republicans stop that? it doesn't have to be about ideology. it can just be about honesty on the issue. and i think that's what you saw suozzi do. it >> was two weeks ago that president biden said i will close the border, let me sign this bill. and republicans? they took it away. mark, max, david, thank you all. i'm manot saying thank you to y get simone, because you are not leaving just yet. when we come back, we're gonna break down this new york special election was someone who knows iathe area very well! he used to represented himself! former congressman, steve israel, has a bit here in ages. we're psyched to have him back when the 11th hour continues! h i scheduled with safelite autoglass. their experts replaced my windshield and recalibrated my car's advanced safety system.

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favors democrats, republicans have consistently outperformed in recent cycles, so what changed? the narrative propelling voters unease on long island is crime and immigration. here on his former district, here's congressman steve israel. steve, i don't think i have these questions for you. explain the election. >> well first, i heard you talking to kornacki about doing a field trip to new york three. i will gladly have new york pizza for everyone. it's a best in the country, i want you to know. >> listen, people who do not know long island, i mean north shore, south shore, there is a lot of different factions in that small area. and a whole lot of traffic. >> that's right. they are getting schooled. and you're absolutely right, this is a very diverse electorate as simone said. there are several things that i think are just critical in explaining the electorate. number one, it is defiantly moderate. it does swing back and forth and it does come more

conservative in 2021, 2022, propelled by immigration and crime. the second thing that i don't think is being talked about is that you've gotta work here you know what off to get people to vote for you. these long island are's, they want you to work and one of the chief like abilities that the republicans had is they chose a candidate and immediately put her in the witness protection program. they kept her under wraps, she only agreed to one debate with tom suozzi. long islanders are rubbed the wrong way when a candidate becomes a phantom. particularly when that candidate wants to succeed the fabulous, the can schreiber, george santos. i think those two things did really played against the republicans in the election. >> if you don't show up and show out for long island, they're not showing up to vote for you. why didn't republicans have it under wraps? they had time. they could hand select someone

to run against suozzi here, they chose her. >> they did. and this speaks to something else that i think is being largely overlooked. that is the extraordinary prepwork and investment front by hakeem jeffries, and house democrats, and the democratic campaign committee which are used to share. in setting the ground, in shaping the landscape. they recruited tom suozzi, governor hochul was incredibly magnanimous. he primaried her from governor. and she worked with him to get elected to congress. spent, way outspent the republicans. probably about 2 to 1. those mechanical efforts by house democrats to shake the environments, plus an excellent candidate in tom suozzi. who the point has been made, he took it to mazi pilip, he did not allow her to define him or the narrative. you put all of that together and it helps to explain the results. i'll say one other thing. if i am donald trump, and the

maga folks, i am worried about what is happening in nassau county. this continues a roll by the democrats across battleground, suburban electorates throughout the country. and so if you're looking at those battleground states like pennsylvania, wisconsin, georgia, michigan, and others. you look at those critical suburbs. this is a lesson for the biden campaign in how you win those critical suburbs which means winning those battleground states. >> both of these candidates largely avoided both donald trump and president biden. what does that tell you? >> well, no surprise. it's been done before. i remembered when i chaired the triple say, we try to tap to republicans with mitt romney, and many of them in these moderate districts, they denied that they even know the man practically. they just stayed away. the last fall that i saw in the district, stephanie, biden was about five points behind trump.

trump and tom suozzi read the same polls. and he wasn't going to be trapped by republicans into litigating joe biden. what he did was litigating against mazi pilip, and that's how he won. >> you don't just know this district, as you say you once ran the dccc. i want to change the subject before you go. what is the -- that donald trump is trying to make his daughter in law the co-chair of the rnc. she's already gone on record and said that she would spend every dollar that they have on donald trump. if that isn't, i don't want to say the nail in the coffin, but making it official, official, official, this is the party of trump then what is? >> absolutely. this continues the complete takeover of the republican party by donald trump. putting his minions, his relatives, in every corner of the republican structure and

organization. it just continues this kind of grift that trump has and this desire to purge the republican party of anybody who was sensible, responsible, moderate with his own loyalists. and if you think it's bad that he is doing this with the rnc, wait to see what he does if he becomes president to the justice department, to the fbi, to the independent agencies and organs of the pro-federal government. that is something that we should all warn about. >> i'm gonna be in hot water for not going to commercial. but i have to ask why are republicans letting it happen? with the exception of 2016, when donald trump won the presidential election, there's basically been a ride swath of losing ever since. >> i think it's a combination of things. many republicans may detest trump for his personality, and his tweets. but they love the tax cuts, they love that the regular zeeshan. he is a clown who delivers what

they want and policy. so there is some of that and then we are in a really perilous time in american history where social media, this is to max roses point earlier, social media and the breakdown of faith in institutions has rattled much of the electorate. they see donald trump as a strongman, as an authoritarian, and they give him the benefit of the doubt. when he said i could shoot somebody on fifth anomie, and they will vote for me, he had it right. >> and a reminder to our audience. tax cuts, even if they are for you, feel sweet when they come. just remember you have to pay for them somewhere. and as for regulation? it's not about regulate, or deregulate, it's about smart regulation. steve, great, great to see you. welcome back, haven't seen you in ages. when we come back we are going to talk more about what matters to voters. in new york's third congressional district. and could it be a window into the presidential election which is now 260 are days away? days

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our country. we won this race, we, you, when this rice. [applause] [applause] because we addressed the issues and we found a way to bind our divisions. >> long island voters braved the cold and snow to cast their votes today, with border security climb, and the economy top of mind. joining me now to talk new york politics, symone sanders- townsend is with us, harry segel, new york daily news communists who briefly worked for suozzi campaign many years ago. and david, political for -- a right, dave both candidates ran and it's clearly an issue for long island voters, but for facts sake, the governor's office announced that outside new york city crime fell in new york by 6% last year. murders down by 27%, right down by 6%, robbery down five.

so what did you take away from the outcome? >> i'm glad you brought those numbers up because the crime issue in this race had changed this in 2022, when they were warning about crime, the panic about crime in new york city. it changed to the migrant influx into new york and if you watch tv in the district in the last few weeks you saw again and again footage of migrants scuffling with police warnings that migrants were committing crimes, that was the issue and that was what suozzi was finessing. and the fairness in a way that he was saying, if it was up to maine migrants committing those crimes would be deported immediately. if it were up to him there would be an immigration compromise passing to the house that reduce the amount of asylum state secrets in new york. so he had a solution to the issue that he explained pretty briskly throughout the race. he did not try to argue that crime was going down. he said, they're right about parts of this and i have a plant of exit. and mazi pilip does not. >> harry, what do you? take >> mazi pilip closed, why the

pack closed on the behalf wet that migrants in times square kicking those police officers. that was the race and she came in with nothing else to say, 100 percent of her ads, i believe, manchin immigration and. she had no particular plan. she just identified a problem and you have this candidate who is running this weird rose garden campaign cheese. a part-time lawmaker right now tom suozzi is a very known quality. and the idea that he is tom suozzi. and sanctions city suozzi. >> that's just not true. what's your take simone because now tom suozzi is walking into congress. he ran an economy and immigration? >> this house is not going to do anything for the foreseeable future? >> on economy immigration?

>> anything. >> they list them down. but house democrats can continue to be, because they are the minority, they can continue to champion and talk about the things that they would do if voters put them back in charge. which i think is going to be very important. because every single member of the house of representatives is up for reelection this fall. tom suozzi included. all of the republicans, mike johnson, people in louisiana if you think that mike johnson is not doing it right. you can vote him out. just letting you know. i think that to this point the great day that while just made. they did not try to convince voters that crime was going down. he heard the concerns, and address that. >> this is such a big point! >> this is a thing. this is what i think that democratic campaigns across the country need to do. this is where i think this applies across the board. you can spend the next you know, now until october because it's really october when the only voting starts. you can spend the time between now and october trying to convince voters that the economy is very good. trying to convince voters given all the things that joe biden and the democrats have done. and if you want to be right that's where you should spend

your time and money doing. but if you would like to when you need to hear the concerns that the voters are putting forth and put forward a solution. housing is a big issue for votes. young people, not so young people, it's in spencer to right now it's impossible to buy if you make good money. so what is the plan for that? maxine waters had a bill in the last congress that when democrats were in charge, they passed. that the senate never took up. so housing is an issue for folks. what joe biden did on the shrinkflation, i love the conversation on the shrinkflation. the reason why inflation is going down, but the stuff at the grocery store is so expensive, is because people haven't identified that they're willing to pay for it. to have to go to the companies i'm sorry and say hey it's time to be bringing them down. they need pressure and that's something that democrats and frankly republican legislatures can do. they can start calling out the special interests, the corporate folks. that's how you speak directly to the concerns voters have.

don't try to convince some of the next couple of months that they're just not getting on the economy because there lived experience, just listen to it. >> they, of do you think you're gonna see this administration put my pressure on corporate america? yes we hear over and over costs are high and we have to pass the cost on to consumers. at the same time corporations are having record profits across industries. the fact that we saw the president make the statement about shrinkflation the other day, is that a window into what we are going to see more of in the coming months? no we are unlikely to see any sort of regulation. but the president can certainly put public pressure? >> we might see more executive orders. i think we're gonna hear more talk on what the biden administration is done in regards to labor. it's an issue that he can talk to very clearly if he wanted to. elon musk is trying to blow up the entire labor board. joe biden has used a very

aggressively, he's talked to people in units and tom suozzi has called them out. they are very satisfied with the way that joe biden approached labor more than brock obama. and joe biden is good in calling out the issues, the way that he's expressing it, the way that he's and then seeing it frankly. you hear more of that, and that's one take that will happen this election in new york. tom suozzi was very clear, he's a populist, let's give people a tax break in new york. and let's get more jobs here. let's defend the rights of labor. that's a message that democrats are very comfortable. joe biden is very comfortable talking about. >> but it is a tough needle to thread because while the president can celebrate the fact that so many people are out there and have good jobs and there are more jobs available, when they leave work and they go to the grocery store, that whole paycheck is going to this week's groceries. tonight also marks the end of a very special era. the george santos era is officially over. i want to give our audience just a brief recap.

>> i worked my entire life, i lived an honest life, i've never been accused of any bad doing. >> santos confessed that he had never worked directly for goldman sachs and citi group. >> did i embellish my resume? yes i did. >> in the campaign i say guys i am to itch. remember i was raised complex. >> in a tweet last year he said that 11 clay my mother's life. >> emigration letters obtained by nbc news shows santos's mother was not even in the u.s. when 9/11 happened. >> will you sit down? >> i will not. can we get some space here? >> the new york is calling it a disgrace. >> the congressman is now accused of scamming a disabled that rain trying to raise money for his dying dogs cancer treatment. >> i've been a terrible liar on those subjects. >> this, this was not about tricking anybody. >> george anthony devolder

santos. for me it was a jewish, and spending campaign dollars on botox. what will you remember about george? >> a reminder of how far out the republican party has gone and the willingness of this completely random place holder in an election holding some real consequence. and nobody looking into this until after that die was cast. so it's actually a very good side to see long island voters and the aftermath of that that suozzi's closing pitch saying that pilip in some sense was not transparent, she ran this really weird hidden campaign. he said santos two point oh, really pushing it, but it was good to see the voters taking it seriously, and having an early night. then the polling suggests that. >> what do you think of let's go for transparency following santos? >> you really would think. but instead they went with a

yell, a small-time local politician who was struggling to some extent with communicating. which we saw in the one and only debate at the very end of this election. i think it was substantial for voters many of them seeing them in attack ads for the first time and say what is this? the most basic important question was abortion. which is the other big issue in this race. behind immigration. it was on behalf of suozzi's ads. he said i don't personally believe in that, but i would put it on other women. and he said that's pro-choice? and she spam aired, and she was flustered, and she crosses stage and try to confront him. shades of hillary clinton's campaign, it was a wild moment. >> all right harry thank you. david simon will get final thoughts. your sendoff to george santos. right on the other side of the break! tos. right on the other side of the break! ♪♪ plateau de fromage! oh la la! don't panic. gift easy with gift mode, new on etsy.

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was counted very slow. and he was the stop the steal guy. how many republicans need to sign nominating people who lost an election and lied about it? that's one serious election to take away from santos. because that's one he likes to talk a lot about. he likes being in front of the, mediators big shot. it's actually having some government experience and taking it very seriously. >> you set him off with some great gift to be compared to the talented mr. ripley. that's the greatest thing that happened to george. some on to you? >> the candidate quality members. representation matters. >> he represents every ethnic group? >> so does mazi pilip, one could argue. the republicans picture. and i think they thought that voters would like her profile. she was jewish, she was an immigrant, a woman of color. she had served in the idf right? they thought that voters would like her profile and ignore her policies or the lack thereof.

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