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tonight, the 2024 primary is officially underway. last hour in south carolina, the first democratic contest in the nation closed, president joe biden easily secured a victory there, flowing his rival out of the water. all eyes are on the number of down the a total of 55 are up. those will be awarded -- remember of course that they need a total of 2000 to capture the democratic nomination. a short time ago the president issued a statement thanking the voters of south carolina saying in part quote, in 2020 it was south carolina who proved -- p-
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>> breaking news coming out of the middle east in the united states launched strikes targeting the cuties in yemen, they hit 36 targets across the country. an official told nbc news today that the strikes in yemen and yesterday's attacks on more than 85 targets linked to iranian-backed militias in iraq and syria are not related. let's go back to politics, and the primary results we're getting out of south carolina. msnbc correspondent tremaine lee isn't charleston, campaign
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-- >> hey i'll tell you what it was a tale of two electorates in many ways, some i spoke with today at the polling place said we are mission-driven, joe biden has done a great job -- folks say that the great message hasn't landed with me, we have concerns about what they believe are promises that weren't kept. part of the narrative, even the folks that are less excited about voting for joe biden still said they would vote for joe biden because they understood the other side, what is at stake in the election. this was always going to be about how excited folks are with their ballots, are folks showing up? they made clear that they showed up. it's not even too far -- and --
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two other states where folks are looking to gauge how black voters are engaging with the biden message, right? if this is any indication even though we don't know -- some of the narratives around excitement, and whether or not they are enthused or not, we will have to see it play out, a man. >> tremaine lee. tremaine, stay with us, greg you went to multiple polling locations as well. any common thing -- >> some of the common things is that they feel comfortable -- a lot of the voters believe that president biden has unfinished business, they look at the things that he has been able to put forward in his administration such as gun legislation in the aftermath of the tragedy in uvalde texas. they look at his handling of abortion. one thing i think is notable. i talked to one of the county
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voting directors here in greenville, just for context -- is that it's about 2%, it's a low turnout here in greenville. i also spoke with -- in the area and how could potentially translate for success and biden in november of 2024 against former president trump. >> sarah, let me cross over to you and get a sense of what you've been hearing. there was a point that my colleague, the rev made that was interesting, if there was any discontent among voters today they could've made that point clear to the biden administration. it doesn't seem like the
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discontent was manifested that the votes went to other candidates in a substantial way. >> yeah, that is exactly right. i spoke with many, many voters here in the charleston area that were casting their votes for joe biden. not that they didn't have concerns about joe biden's, those concerns that are reflected in polls. i spoke to people that were very concerned about joe biden's age. i spoke to people who wanted him to do more progressive policies. ivan found someone who said i wish that he had stepped aside and not run for another term, but yet they were here today at the elementary school casting their votes in the primary, which as we said, was not a hyper competitive primary for the incumbent president on a saturday. that could be good news for the democrats in 2024 that despite these concerns, voters might have, they came out to vote today, and something that wasn't all of their minds, was
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the general election. most of the voters had their minds made up that donald trump will be the republican nominee, and that was really driving their enthusiasm to come and vote despite all their concerns about joe biden, they were much more concerned about what could happen in a trump administration. they even overheard some voters talk about how they would be more concerned about joe biden in that general election of donald trump weren't the nominee, and nikki haley was. >> thank you to the three of you for starting us off this hour. let's go to the big board and bring in national political correspondent steve kornacki. steve, polls close more than an hour ago, what do the numbers say, how are you reading them? >> they speak for themselves, i guess, but one notable thing here in the last hour is we have a quarter of the voting in south carolina, initially what we were getting's big batches of early vote in counties. you're wondering would there be any variants, with that bring
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the biden number down? it really isn't, biden's running 96% statewide, 25% williams, and phillips hasn't touched 2%, i can individualized this county by county.
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37%, turnout number, biden versus sanders, backed primary the total number of people who turned out in 2020, high interest here they get about 37% of the total, they are on pace for that. heavily black county, the other county we get the vote, two tours of it has the highest concentration of -- but again two thirds of the vote is in, they are also on pace to be at 46% of the turnout level, 37% when you do statewide also if you look statewide you extrapolate, what the turnout would be, you are in the 100 and 80 to 200,000 vote range, broadly somewhere in there. it's about 37%, a little bit more than a third of the 30
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total. new hampshire, a week ago, couple of weeks ago i should say, january 23rd, i've lost track of the days, of a new hampshire they were running at 40% of the 2020 level in the democratic primary. so we've been talking about this, the tough thing with turnout, we will get a full picture in the night as we get full reports from the counties, and we can look within the counties, we will see if there is more enthusiasm or less enthusiasm, in some more specific places which is broadly speaking county to county. they are running a little more than a third right now of the 2020 turnout rate. it's uniform across the board -- maybe this will be different in some ways if a bigger name democrat had stepped up to challenge biden, that will never be known, but the collection of challenges, congressman philips, from 2020, there is no interest in them among south carolina democrats tonight. the turnout if it's in the 200,000 range will show you, a
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couple of graphics here, this is the black vote, we've never had a primary before tonight where a democratic incumbent was challenging a primary. so we don't have anything to compare to, these are all contested primaries here, you can see 100 80 to 200,000 would fit in if that's where it's going. >> steve kornacki at the big board, steve, thank you. stay nearby, we will touch base with you later on in the show. i want to bring to the conversation michael tyler the communication director for the biden harris 2024 campaign. michael, great to have you with us, thank you for joining us. congratulations are in order. i want to start with the mood in the campaign, how are you interpreting the victory in south carolina? >> thanks for having me, appreciated, it's good for joe biden democrats across the country. joe biden is once again a winner. he has kept his promises to the backbone of the democratic party, the black voters. you're talking about the data
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tonight, we're looking at the early vote data earlier today, 76% of voters were black. that's compared to 56% in 2020, folks are turning out because they understand that they have a president and joe biden who has kept his promises, and they understanding creasing leak, to your point earlier, that we have cemented the chances between joe biden who is delivering and donald trump presents a threat to american freedom in american democracy. we are excited about the road ahead and we are focusing ahead for the general election. >> let me, if i control down on the issue of turnout, get a sense of how you read turnout or how you want your campaign in the general democratic party to read the turnout, as my colleague steve kornacki was pointing out, it's hard to gauge. we haven't been in situation like this before, previous one there were no primaries when an incumbent was running, he's expected to turn out to be anywhere between 37%, which would be slightly less than it
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was in a very competitive primary back in 2020. how do you read the vote turnout tonight between enthusiasm for the biden case pain and his reelection versus not? >> i would start by comparing it to the first republican contest in iowa, you had 110,000 folks turnout for the caucuses, a competitive election with multiple candidates. here in south carolina tonight you will have around 100,000 people turned out for the president because they appreciate everything that he has done over the course of his first term. they are excited about the future, they are geared up and understand the sense of urgency for the general election ahead. if you want to look at other metrics for enthusiasm look and look at the grassroots fund raising, we've had the best month in january, the q4 numbers are fantastic, $97 million that is largely through grassroot donations, 97% were people who were giving $200 relies. people like teachers, nurses who were chipping in five and
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ten bucks at a time, and joe biden, they understand what the president has done, 14 million new jobs, capping the cost of insulin at 35 bucks. they also understand that we have a threat in donald trump who every single days talking about bragging about his role in overturning roe v wade, who's rooting for the economy to crash, pledging to serve as a dictator on day one. people understand the stakes and they understand that we have a fighter in joe biden who will continue to deliver for them in the course of the next four years if we win. >> i want to ask about a threat that donald trump poses, and the message going forward. but let me ask you as you mention right now, the campaign statement that came out about the importance of black voters, and this was widely seen as primary contest as a test for biden strength among the critical voting bloc. my colleague gabe gutierrez spoke to a young voter in south carolina, take a listen to this. >> do you think there is enough enthusiasm among young black voters such as yourself? >> no, sir.
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in all honesty, in 2020, it was a very emotional time, a lot of people were supporting, but not supporting but the black lives matter movement had received emphasis following the events of george floyd, a lot of emphasis was pushed to vote, and a lot of entertainment outlets, because people were at home, so voting, voting, voting. >> do you think a lot of people your age will stay home this election? >> yes sir. yes sir. >> that is one vote obviously that is one person it's anecdotal what i wanted to give you a chance to respond, how do you think that they will reach someone who doesn't feel campaign to go to the polls? >> they have been key to the biden harris coalition, key to democratic victories for years, we will remind people of exactly what this administration has done, on behalf of black communities across the country.
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record low unemployment under this administration, black wealth growing by 60% since before the pandemic, seven billion dollars in hbcus. we will communicate the contrast, we will talk about donald trump who when he was the president we saw the damage he caused to black americans, the only thing that went up under his presidency was the unemployment rate and the uninsured rate. the tax cuts gave double the benefits to the double white household in the black household, he fun -- leaving them dead, and black businesses shuttered, we will communicate what our vision is, accomplishments and contrast them across the damage that donald trump caused and the damages he will cause a feasible to regain power. donald trump? >> we are absolutely focused on the general election.
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against donald, trump he's marching towards republican nomination, we're focused on building an apparatus that can take him on, and get to 270 ng electoral votes. that's absolutely what we're focused on at this stage in the race. >> what does that apparatus look like? what does that messaging look like, in order to defeat donald trump again? >> it looks like scaling up our operation in loall the battleground states, making sure that we are fully funded with staffing on the ground, and it makes it our paid advertising efforts, our digital organizing efforts, a three 60-degree effort to communicate with the voters who are going to decide this election. so certainly more to come, stay tuned. >> let me ask, to finally before i let you go, you mentioned the battleground states, obviously a iolot of concern against the state of michigan, the because of the protests that were taking place there over thursday. are you at all concerned about states like michigan, yoand ara american voters, muslim
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american voters? with the win -- of the war in gaza? >> we're tcertainly concerned about every state. we're concerned about michigan as well, we're reminding folks, hey, that the president is approaching the conflict as the commander-in-chief, not through the lens of politics. he's going to continue to engage with the community for now, through november, and through the next four years, when he's reelected. people elected joe biden because he has the empathy, the decency, and the seriousness of purpose, to serve as commander- in-chief, service president, and we believe that stands in stark contrast to people like donald trump, who is running a campaign of revenge, of retribution, of harm, because he cares about himself, and certainly has esno business stepping back into the oval office. we will be engaged with the community, we will continue to present our itvision, in contra that with our opponent in nt donald trump. >> michael tyler, director of communications for hathe biden harris 2024 campaign. sir, thank you so much for your time. again, congratulations on the win this evening. greatly appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you for having me, i appreciate it. >> we're just getting started this hour, we have lots more analysis to get to, r,but when come back, we're going live to the middle east with the
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very latest on today's strikes in yemen. stay with us. today's strikes in yemen. stay with us.
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>> welcome back everyone, we are of course tracking those democratic primary results coming out of south carolina, we're gonna have more on that throughout the hour. we are also following major breaking news coming out of the middle east, the united states, the united kingdom, striking 36 houthi targets in 13 locations across yemen today. amid fears of a widening war in the region, joining me now with the very latest from tel aviv, is nbc news foreign correspondent, matt bradley. matt, it's good to have you with us. you had a senior administration officials saying that today's attacks were actually unrelated to yesterday's strikes in iraq and syria. break that down for us, because the significance of that is that the united states is now operating in two separate tracks within this conflict. what is happening in iraq and syria, what is happening in yemen, and the concerns that this war is widening now to include multiple countries, if you include what israel's doing in lebanon, what it is doing in syria, and now what america is doing in both syria, iraq, and
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yemen. >> there's two common thread here, in, in one's iran. this is all involving the iranian led axis of resistance. which involves hezbollah, in lebanon, the houthis in yemen, these iran-backed, they call them -- and in syria, also, iran -backed groups. sometimes people also often will lump in the regime of -- in syria into this resistance, all of these groups, for the first time ever in history, have now been acting in concert. and not just against israeli targets, ever since the october 7th attacks. but also against american targets, and in, the case of the houthis in yemen, against international shipping. the other common threat is that they are all reacting to events in the gaza strip, this is something that colleagues have been asking me all day, how will these strikes by the u.s. in iraq, in syria, and now in yemen, effect what's going on here in israel, and in the gaza strip, well, they probably
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won't. but what is more likely is that what is going on in israel, and the gaza strip, will affect what's going on in those further flung places. each of those groups, each of those axis of resistance, iran -backed groups, including hezbollah and lebanon, have made it their mission to basically distract american and israeli forces from operations in the gaza strip. now, we haven't seen america participating directly in the events in the gaza strip, but as far as these groups are concerned, and as far as the iranian regime is concerned, israel and the united states are one and the same. the u.s. is the main backer of israel. for them, attacking an american target is tantamount to attacking israel. is tantamount to in protecting the gazans in gaza. and also, palestinians in the west bank. they see this, as preventing the israelis from expanding
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their operations, where as we see them as the belligerence -- or as the united states tends to see them, as the belligerence in attacking israel and united states targets. this is a very -- it just goes to show, a difference of worldview that we are seeing playing out here. the fact of the matter is, each and every one of these groups is going to continue to attack, or they've sworn they will continue to attack, as long as the casualty figures in the gaza strip continue to go up, as long as there isn't a cease- fire or a peace treaty, or any sort of negotiation that could bring an end to the hostilities that we are seeing in the gaza strip. >> and into the war something these really prime minister for now has categorically rejected. so we'll have to wait and see what happens on that front. matt bradley, live for us in israel, matt, i appreciate you staying up late for us, my friend. thank you so much. next, we're heading back to south carolina, we're going to get some announcements with my all-star panel. stay with us. stay with us. ve colitis takes you off course. in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill.
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>> welcome back everyone, we are continuing our coverage of the democratic south carolina primary, which nbc news projects president biden won, with a resounding majority. joining me now with more, nbc news campaign, nnamdi egwuonwu from south carolina, it's good to have you with us. i know you've been talking to voters throughout the day, we've been hearing some of those from our other correspondents as well, but you are at a democratic watch party, what did you hear from folks about what the deciding factor was for the way the polls went today? >> ayman, your spot on. i've been talking to voters all day. the consistent theme i've been hearing from the voters i've talked to in places like orangeburg which has a pretty large black population, is that their support for president biden at the end of the day, boils down to the fact that in their eyes, he can defeat former president trump. i also heard one voter talk to of course biden's time with barack obama them, who people have a love for here in south carolina. and i found that the older folks i talked to tended to have a more pragmatic attached
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to the current state of politics, a consistent thing i heard over and over again is that it's going to take time, biden will deliver on what he can, it'll just take due time and they have to stand by in support him, here at the first of the nation celebration, things have been overwhelmingly positive. even though only 30% of the vote is in, biden has about 96% of the share, that's a resounding success to people in this room, many of whom have been on the ground for weeks now, trying to keep the campaign going, and ensure turnout was where democrats wanted it to be. what they mentioned earlier tonight was that throughout the last few weeks, democratic party officials here organized about 150 events across 32 counties. that speaks to the dedication that they had in ensuring south carolina democrats turned out and showcased their enthusiasm. i spoke to congressman, jim clyburn, a little bit ago, about his turnout prediction. he's been saying he hopes to see between 100 and 150,000 people, with biden capturing
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about 70% of the vote, those are low expectations, and right now, it looks like biden is on pace to hit the mark set by congressman clyburn. >> nnamadi, thank you so much. i appreciate your reporting on that. i'm joined now by jonathan capehart, fernand amandi, and democratic pollster, one ameshia cross, democratic -- it's good to have all three of you with us. jonathan, i'll start with you. the optics of south carolina being first was extremely important. it's something that joe biden personally called for, as well as jim clyburn, as well as other members of the democratic leadership, including jimmy harris, and somebody that you've been in touch with, excuse, me what does it say that this state finally went first? and the message it delivered tonight by going first? >> a lot of people think that south carolina is going first because this was a reward from president biden to the state for what it did for his campaign in 2020. and that was give him a win. give him a decisive win in a state that actually looks more
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like the nation than iowa or new hampshire. that is really the key to why south carolina is the first primary in the democratic primary race, because the democratic electorate looks more like the democratic party than it does in iowa and new hampshire, and the democratic electorate in south carolina looks more like the nation than it does in iowa and new hampshire. by south carolina being the first primary, it really allows for the president to come roaring out of the gate, and showing just how much support he has. i think the thing that reverend al sharpton told you in the last hour, is that president biden and vice president harris did not take south carolina for granted, leading into this primary. they visited that state multiple times, throughout their time in the white house, and particularly in the last
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week, going out there, asking people for their votes, not taking those votes for granted and just thinking, you know, you're just gonna show up. no, they did what they were supposed to do. go back to those voters, and make the case for why they should come out, and if these numbers hold up, it's look like their message worked. >> i was gonna say, we heard from michael tyler, the director of communications for kim campaign, reiterated that saying they're not taking any vote for granted. we saw that in south carolina in 2020, it was a hugely significant state for joe biden. it was the one that turned it around for iowa and new hampshire, and revived his campaign. that's in part thanks to jim clyburn, congressman jim clyburn, who cemented biden's status as the favorite among black voters, and helping him win the south carolina primary. how do you think this primary when will shape how black voters in south carolina and the rest of the country view
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biden's campaign if at all? >> it sends a resonating message, we've heard time and time again, and seen polls, listen to podcasts, where the question is, whether or not the black vote is going to show up, particularly looking at some waning interest pointing to black men, desiring other options. and what we've seen time and again is that those polls have been proven to be false. it will prove to be false in this coming election as well. what black voters want is for their policies, the policies that they stand for, to actually be upheld. we've seen that in president biden, we've seen it in that administration. we've seen it in housing. we've seen it in the infrastructure development plans. we've seen it in job creation, we've seen it in an economy that is built to work for all, not a privileged few. we've seen it in his push to alleviate student loan debt. we've seen it time and time again. they think that those things matter very much to black voters, and they can rise above the muck. we know what disinformation campaigns look like, we also know the threats that will be posed by the trump
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administration if he's to become president again. >> fernand, we know in new hampshire's republican primary last month, we had some left leaning independent voters cast ballots for nikki haley to support her effort to defeat trump. based on what you saw today, do you think the biden campaign has success in stopping that trend? >> oh my gosh, if you're the biden campaign, you want marianne williamson and the other candidate, dean phillips, to stay in the race as long as possible. you're going to run up 97 percentile wins in democratic primary states, it's only going to speak to their effectiveness. but look, i think tonight, one of the major political questions in america has been answered. that is, where is joe biden's presidential library going to be? it's definitely going to be in south carolina, now. it was a state that made his candidacy and presidency -- they stood strongly tonight. ayman, i think it's going to be very telling how the trump campaigns react to this. because of course, with the big winner tonight being joe biden, i think the other big winner is
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tim scott. i think his elevation on the trump vp stakes has moved up a little bit tonight, because all the talk out there was that president biden was wavering with black voters, the black support in the democratic primary was going to be a problem. the opposite of that happened. i think tim scott is going to trump saying, hey, look at, me i can maybe help you in a way that you won't have if i'm not on that ticket. >> it's going to say, one of the other surprising headlines according to steve kornacki, as the way he broke down, was the big turnout among white voters in south carolina, for joe biden. i think that was a headline that perhaps some of us were not expecting to see so pronounced this early on in the evening. ameshia cross, i fernand amandi, and the sunday shows jonathan capehart, thank you to the three of you, i greatly appreciate it. as next, -- today's big story, a big round of airstrikes, this time in yemen. stay with us. stay with us. i see irritated gums and weak enamel. sensodyne sensitivity gum and enamel it relieves sensitivity helps restore gum health
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>> united states and the united kingdom launched a series of strikes targeting people in yemen, 36 targets and at least 13 locations in the country. this comes after yesterday's retaliatory strikes by the u.s. on more than 85 targets and seven iranian-backed militant facilities inside iraq and syria. join me now is dan nbc national security reporter from washington d.c., dan it's good to have you with us. tell us about why the targets were selected, if we know why and why the administration is saying what we saw today in yemen is not related to what played out yesterday in syria and iraq? >> let's take the second part of the question first, because it can be confusing. in the end, they are all related, at the bottom line. there's a thread that goes through all of them, iran is behind all the proxy groups, whether it is militias in iraq
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that were responsible for the attack that killed americans. -- in the red sea and in the gulf. the u.s. says they are different or separate because the strikes yesterday were aimed at the militia groups that are deemed responsible for the legal attack last sunday against american troops, these attacks today with the uk in yemen are supposed to try to stop those houthis drones and missiles attacks that have been going on now for months, where they are hitting commercial ships are coming close to hitting commercial cargo ships, some of them are diverting their vessels from the whole area creating ripples in the global economy. that is the distinction there, in terms of the targets, what they were trying to do today, enough course they are on that, the aircraft carrier witnessing
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-- they're trying to get had the houthis ability to go after the ships, they're going after the drones, they intercept drones or the missiles. that's what that is about. >> all right, dan de luce, thank you so much for the update, we appreciate it. joining me now lieutenant general steph tweety, former deputy commander of the united states, european command and ben rhodes msnbc political contributor. general twitty, i'll start with you, i'll get your initial response to the latest round of attacks, what kind of impact, if any do you think, this attack will have on the kinetic dynamics in the region, both among the iraqi militias and the houthis? >> yes, what we will have to do is wait on the battle assessments that will come out of both of these attacks. the attacks that occurred yesterday, which were in direct response to our troops being
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killed in iraq. and then the separate attacks, all fill a common threat, in response to the houthis interfering with international trade and also interfering with freedom and navigation. and so what i think is going to happen and all of this play here is, as we continue to move out these layers, we cannot afford to have a direct conflict with iran, and iran cannot afford to have a direct conflict with us. and so if we continue in this route, every day that goes by with the gaza war occurring between israel and hamas, we are moving one step closer to that all out conflict. and so, we must institute stability and deterrence back into play here.
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hopefully, these attacks they're gonna take away capability and capacity from the houthis, from hezbollah, from the forces, it will help us. i'm hoping that's the case, but we will see. >> ben, how hard is it to establish deterrence when iran is fighting the u.s. through its arab proxies in yemen, lebanon, in iraq and in syria against america? and they are not paying a high cost, i would argue, since they are just basically losing hardware at this moment. the militias are being attacked, at the end of the day, iran is willing to pay that price so long as it can keep america on its back foot in the region, so to speak. >> yes, i don't think you can completely deter groups like the houthis, part of their ethos is that they are not deterred. we've been striking houthis and they continue the attacks,
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they've weathered years of war, keep in mind it several years, of saudi led coalition bombings and attacking the houthis and they've been resilient through that. so, i think what the administration is trying to do is at least try to push them back, degrade their capabilities, send a message that if you continue these types of attacks on u.s. forces, or gonna attack you. but it's a little book conflict. what concerns me, is that this has been a steady escalation over the past months, administration were saying that they did not want this, but they get drawn in. we've seen attacks in syria, we've seen attacks in yemen. clearly they don't want to attack iran. i think the common thread is not just that iran backs the proxies, this has all been taking place since october 7th, since the attack in israel, and the overwhelming israeli
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military operation that has caused a catastrophic humanitarian crisis in gaza. these groups want to be seen as standing up to israel and the united states. they want the global attention that comes with them hitting the u.s. and getting in a tit- for-tat. so, we're getting drawn into something where you have the arsonist across the region that want to fight, and unless we are able to de-escalate the situation in gaza, we are going to be in this kind of very volatile tinderbox of situation here. that's why we need diplomacy along the strikes to end the fighting in gaza. >> to that point, general, ben brings an important point about this, escalating since october 7th, it's been five months, the u.s. was not militarily involved in the region directly. the presence was always, there taking action in
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counterterrorism, but now the united states is operating in yemen, iraq, syria, a lot of people are learning about our 22, israel is engaged in the cross border violence, if you will, striking between hezbollah and israel, and now it is happening in syria, the u.s. is operating in somalia. it's hard to convince the american public that we are not going further, and further into a war when we are seeing upticks in these types of attacks. >> i agree with you. it is hard to convince the american public, if you know what the attacks today, we had a coalition that came along with this, and there was only one nation, brain, that was part of the correlation. i ask myself where is the arab world in this? if we're talking about global trade being interrupted, it is not just global trade from the western nations that is being
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interrupted, it's also from the arab world. i think diplomacy needs to lead here, and we need to get the arab world involved, and putting iran in check as well as well as the proxies in the region. >> lieutenant general steph twitty, ben rhodes, gentlemen, thank you to the both of you for your time in analysis tonight. we are back with final thoughts on tonight's primary in south carolina, that is coming up next. mary in south carolina, that is coming up next. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan. let's find the right investments for your goals okay, great. j.p. morgan wealth management. ( ♪ ♪ ) start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand.
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>> back with a presidents victory tonight in south carolina, nbc projects that joe biden won the first democratic primary of the 2024 season, they are both back with me. fernando, i want to get your thoughts as we close out the show tonight, what lessons do you think the biden campaign takes away from tonight and applies to either the rest of the primary calendar or the general election? >> i think tonight was a stress test, there wasn't a question about what the outcome was gonna be everyone knew president biden was going to win. but to have the statement wind with 97% of the vote gives them the confidence that they are on the right path. it puts a lot of the democratic bed-wetters in the back burner that this is not falling out of control, and allows them to really zero in, and focus on the general election matchup which is the matchup. donald trump versus president
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biden, the economic news continues to get better, there is likely going to be a very bad jury verdict against donald trump coming out of the case in new york, which will put him on again. i think of biden stays the course, delivers the messages of accomplishments, he will be in solid shape, tonight was a great night for his campaign. >> same question to you, where does the campaign go from here both in the rest of the primary calendar, as well as the inevitable matchup between joe biden and donald trump? >> he messages accomplishments, he mentions the changes that were not post covid-19, he talks about the record on employment, talks about the economic condition of the nation, and quite frankly he bets on black, what we've learned time and time again is that black people are like the adventures, they will come and save the democracy over and over again, regardless of how bad it has mistreated us.
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he reaches out to diverse groups and makes sure that he elevates the very people who have save them time and time again. that's black voters across the country. >> to fernand's point, i guess are there any issues that remain a cause of concern for you, tonight, as we look into the calendar? is there anything that the biden administration should not take for granted, not to rest on their laurels? >> understanding that even if the economic situation is stronger, not everyone is feeling that at home, particularly from diverse communities. and as the work continues on, he has to serve -- from our actions there, and watching what they are seeing is israel being a top worthy when it comes to being willing to level critical infrastructure and quite frankly, what it looks like to commit war crimes
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