>> double trouble for donald trump's friends. a judge denies mark meadows attempt to move the georgia case to federal court while the special grand jury reveals it wanted charges brought against lindsey graham and other high-profile trump allies. i will discuss the latest with neil castillo and greg bluestein. staring down the shutdown, the house returns next week and the clock is ticking to reach an agreement to fund the government. congressman brandon boyle of the house budget committee joins me live to discuss what is next. making history mississippi, we will meet the candidate poised to be the states first out gay legislature. i'm jonathan capehart. this is the saturday show. we began with a major legal

blow to donald trump's fulton county codefendant and former chief of staff. yesterday, a federal judge denied mark meadows request to move the georgia election interference case to federal court. judge it jones ruled that meadows involvement in trying to overturn the state's 2020 election results were not a part of his official duties as a government official. jones wrote the evidence overwhelmingly suggests that most of the actions attributed to meadows in the indictment does not fall within his scope of executive branch duties. the denial from meadows could spell bad news for trump who has signaled that he might have his case moved to federal court. the four other codefendants who have already pushed to move their cases to federal court. within hours of the decision, meadows filed a notice to appeal. in other major fulton county, news the release of the special grand jury report early failed a much larger list of people

recommended for charges. the report revealed 39 people were recommended to face charges by the special grand jury. that is nearly twice as many as the 19 who were indicted. the list includes some very familiar names. among the 21 who were not indicted, despite the special grand jury's recommendation, south carolina senator lindsey graham. former georgia republican senator david perdue and kelly loeffler. former trump national security adviser michael flynn and trump advisor boris epstein. joining me now, neil pastel, legal analyst and former acting solicitor general of the united states and professor of law at georgetown university. greg bluestein, a political reporter with the atlanta journal constitution and author of flipped, how georgia turned purple and broke the monopoly on republican power. thank you both for coming back to the show. neil, what does judge jones's decision against meadow mean, meadows, mean for trump and

others hoping to move their cases to federal court? >> it is a significant decision, jonathan. mark meadows who is chief of staff and donald trump really want their criminal trial to take place in federal court in georgia. not a local fulton county court. the chief reason is, at least i, think if the trial takes place in georgia state court, it is televised. the world can see it. if it's in federal court, it is almost never televised. trump and meadows are scared of cameras like vampires to sunlight, something like that. there is a federal law that has been around for a long time called section 14 42. what that allows you to do, if your a federal official acting under federal law and you are the federal defense, you can take your court trial and move it to federal court. what the judge yesterday, judge jones dead, a really detailed 49-page opinion, blow the move

out of the water. he said your federal official, mark meadows, you are not at all acting under color of federal law in the federal law bars you from acting in the political way. some would call it the hat. you have no federal defense or immunity. a whole tradition of federal on judge jones says rebels against the idea of that federal court could interfere with state court prosecution like this. >> mail, as i mentioned in the intro, meadows is appealing to the conservative circuit court of appeal. is there any likelihood it will reverse the jones decision and send meadows to federal court? >> i don't think. so this decision was so detailed and meticulous. i know a lot of people have their concerns about the 11th circuit. i remind, you the court of appeals is the very one that when judge aileen cannon wrote some rulings that were way out to black, we check to the rulings right away. this is the same course that just this week rejected alabama's attempt to try and

get around the voting rights act and say that's absolutely permissible. so, there is no real merit to this appeal. there is no real merit should donald trump try to file a motion for removal. every thing judge jones said yesterday about mark meadows applies and states to donald trump. >> one more thing, neil. there was one more footnotes that gave me pause. it is on page six. it says that one of the jurors voted against indicted loeffler and perdue because the jurors, quote, believed their statements following the november 2020 election, while pandering to their political base, do not give rise to their being guilty of a criminal conspiracy. why might that be music to trump's ears once this goes to trial? >> we have always known donald trump's defense here is, hey, i was just, you know, i thought i legitimately won the election.

i was talking to my base. he doesn't use the word pandering. that is what he is good at. i think strictly speaking, that is wrong. a grand jury can labor under that disbelief for a while. there is no problem. when this goes to a criminal trial and the jury is sworn, and the prosecutors will do a good job of explaining the difference between politics and crimes. we have had hundreds of people running our history for the presidency. not one has been accused of the crimes here that donald trump has. for good reason. what donald trump did is beyond the pale. >> greg, what is the reaction atlanta to purdue and loeffler being on the special grand jury's list? >> that was a stunner here in georgia. we knew a lot of the names of the codefendants have been indicted who are under investigation by the grand jury probe. some of those who didn't. david perdue and loeffler,

prosecutors kept that very closely guarded that they were promoting those two former senators. they played an instrumental role in the aftermath of the 2020 election. they were running for senate. there was a u.s. senate runoff. the vote was held january 5th, 2021. the deciding control of the u.s.. senate at the time, it escalated in support of donald trump and his election lies. they called for brad raffensperger, to step down. by the, and by the eve of the january 5th runoff, they were both endorsing the push to block joe biden's win in congress. >> greg, with the release of the grand jury, report we now know fani willis, the fulton county d.a. decided not to indict 21 people, including the two we are talking about. plus senator lindsey graham. what does that say about her? if you listen to trump and,

others you would think she was reckless and political from the start. he was reckle>> yeah, she is acting tactically and strategically. her office only has a finite level of resources. she is looking at the evidence as well. some of these cases would be a lot harder to bring to court, especially when we talk about mark meadows in particular. lindsey graham, sorry, lindsey graham in particular, his phone call to brad raffensperger. there is no recording of it that we know of. we don't have that evidence that we had with a donald trump's phone call to raffensperger. of course, it was recorded for all to hear. we also know that some of those on that list have now received immunity. they might be cooperating. at least eight of the fake electors have reported in court they have received immunity. others could as well. >> greg, one more thing about georgia, the atlanta reaction.

the involvement of the senior senator from a neighboring state. from south carolina getting involved in local election involved in a local election. and. any reaction to that? >> when we reported way back when in 2021 that he was making the phone calls to raffensperger, it raised alarms and eyebrows. you see republicans in georgia saying to stay out of it. stay out of the states. he said it was under the agents of his work and the senate committees and investigative functions as one of the top senators in the chamber. at the same, time we have republicans in georgia saying the election was not rigged. it was not stolen. voter should focus on the runoffs that i was mentioning instead of donald trump's election lies. >> greg bluestein, neil cantil, thank you both as always for coming to the saturday show. now to some breaking news from

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next week. lawmakers have less than two weeks to come to a consensus on spending legislation to prevent a government shutdown before the fiscal year ends on september 30th. to buy, time continued resolution could be adopted to fund the government temporarily to buy more time to get to a final budget deal. the white house plus the leadership of the house and senate are already on board. there is always a but. there is a problem. some members of the ultraconservative house freedom caucus are threatening to withhold their support and force a shut down unless their demands on spending cuts and concessions are met. with the five seat republican majority, the threat stands on a very good chance of becoming reality and joining me now is the ranking member on the house budget committee democratic congressman brandon boyle of pennsylvania. congressman boyle, thank you very much as always for coming to the show. the freedom caucus is the man diggable other hard, clothing for border enforcement and cuts to the department of justice

and fbi. an end to, quote, what policies at the defense department. your thoughts on these demands and whether they will follow through on their threats? >> great to be back with you. as we have talked about before, there has been one consistent theme ever since that first week in january when it took a kevin mccarthy 15 times just to get his own side to vote for him as a speaker. and that is that kevin mccarthy and the house republicans continue to be led by the ultra maga, so-called, freedom focus. they are extreme agenda is what drives the bus when it comes to house republicans. now, one of the few rare times that kevin mccarthy stood up to them and forged a bipartisan agreement in june and order to raise the debt ceiling and set the top line numbers for the budget for the next year. if you notice, 80% of house

democrats at 67% of house republicans voted for that compromise. myself included. it wasn't a perfect bill. there were some things i did not like. however, it was broadly palatable to the vast majority of us. we could do that again. we should use that outline. we already passed it. the problem is, unfortunately, we have a house speaker who's more concerned about staying speaker and pandering to the marjorie taylor greene's of the house republican conference caucus. they are trying to go against the law. the bill that became law. it said, you know, raise the debt ceiling. speaking of driving the bus, the league person's marjorie taylor greene. she is threatening to shut down unless an impeachment inquiry into president biden's launched. speaker mccarthy is reportedly on board, arguing to his caucus that shutting down the government would hurt their push for impeachment. it is insane that impeachment

would be leveraged in this way. here we, are congressman. >> yeah, i it's just one more example out of many to show how extreme these ultra maga members are. thank goodness we have president biden in the white house and a sling democratic majority in the senate. these are the sort of things that would become law. that said, i am concerned that we may have a bogus impeachment process. 30 years ago one of my favorite shows with seinfeld. the extreme maga republican huanan impeachment of joe biden about nothing. no evidence, it doesn't matter. it will enable them to continue to pander to their maga base. i am concerned that the inquiry could happen because kevin mccarthy wants to pacify the extreme maga caucus. >> this has nothing to do with

budget or policy. this is all about the speaker trying to hang on to the gavel. is there any hope of a continuing resolution? >> not only a hope. ultimately, we will get there. i think it's pretty clear. even mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer are on the same page. i do think we are going to get a c r into december. the question is, will speaker mccarthy given to the extreme wings and his maga side and force a short turn shut down before relenting and passing it? that remains to be seen. i think it's quite obvious that it just like 2020 and 2021 and 2022, it is obvious one way or the other this is going to end. >> really quickly, if there is a shutdown, who will get the

blame for that? they could turn and say, well, democrats won't do that what we want them to do. >> they could. let's not forget recent history. the other side keeps forgetting it. they forced the government shutdown on bill clinton in 1995. newt greenwich and bob dole wore the blame. the american people blamed them and it helped president clinton get reelected. again in 2011, house republican take over the house. they force another government shutdown. there is more chaos. again, they took the blame and help president obama get reelected. they forced of their shutdown. the recent history will repeat itself. >> congressman brandon boyle of pennsylvania, as always, thank you for coming to the saturday show. >> thank you. >> joining me now, my am again as president of the bipartisan committee for responsible federal budget of. friend of the show. maya, the house will come back into session on tuesday. they will have 11 working days

to get a budget done before the end of the fiscal year on september 30th. they are not going to make, it our? they >> no, jonathan, they will not make. it they will not come close. frankly they, never make it. we are at the point where congress has not passed a budget on time and over 20 years. they have not gotten the funding that they needed to start the fiscal year in longer than that. this, year the budget committees did not even bother to offer budgets out of their committee. the bottom line is this process is highly broken. we are in need of a budget. it is the basic thing of starting to run a government. we have to overhaul the system and get this done without these crazy antics of are shutting the government down. >> i will tear it down. if there hasn't been a formal budget in the 20 something years and you're just doing continuing resolutions, you are continuing from something before. so, if we are going to be in a continuing resolution whose budget are we actually

operating under? is it the donald trump budget? >> we have a continuing resolution. it doesn't keep in the out years of the presidents budgets from before. in, fact the presidents budgets that are recommended every year, often the deadline is. missed the -- start of the ones that are implemented. we are building off the last year's budget. it is a continuing resolution before. that then what congress does routinely is figures out a way to plus up the numbers and find lots of ways to put additional spending in, even when the resolution was supposed to be flat. the discretionary spending has gone up significantly over those. years >> now that i think of, it congressman boyle was talking about the bipartisan agreement that got through and raise the debt ceiling and put in all these structures and funding limits. house republicans are re-nagging on that. what is going on? what concerns you have about that? >> it wasn't long ago i was

here on the show, we were talking about whether they were going to default. thank goodness, we did not, what came out was the fiscal responsibility act, it was actually a good compromise. it led the congress to come up with a plan to save 1 to 2 trillion dollars. what it, did it put in spending caps. it meant that we should be able to put those appropriations and. that is not happened at all now. actually, both the senate and the house are trying to do things around the cap. the senate, and the bipartisan, manner is trying to spend about 14 billion more than the caps. the house, not a bipartisan, manner some of the republicans are trying to bring the caps way down to more than 100 what they agreed upon. no one is sticking to it. what's interesting here, the divide is more senate versus house then republican versus democrat. >> senate versus house. to put a finer point on, it senate republicans versus house republicans. i just want to bring up the

demands that are being made by the house freedom caucus. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene in particular, are they remotely reasonable to discuss vis-à-vis the budget. by that, i mean do funding jack smith. defunding basically america's financial support of ukraine in its war against russia. >> -- and impeachment of joe biden. >> so, no. the bulk of the things that are discussed don't belong at all. this is not part of the budget process if there is a budget process. this is not part of budgeting. what should be included are what are the national priorities. what programs are we going to do to achieve them. what are the spending levels. how are we going to pay for them? the basic principles of budgeting. that's not what is getting address. this is about hijacking the budget process routinely. it is dangerous. when you talk about who wins or who loses, america loses when we shut down our government. >> talk more about that. who loses? >> >> i don't see this as a

political -- i know that's how we will talk about it in washington. this is the point that we were downgraded. our fiscal situation is bad. we are dysfunctional. we talked about defaulting. it could have ten to the global economy. we know there are huge problems on the horizon. it's facing us right now. our government is unable to address it because they are so busy fighting. if we shut down, our enemies around the world who are now realizing are there and stronger forces than we realized before, it is a weaker nation. it's really sad as someone who's not interested in politics to this, how do you do the right things for government? one of them is passing a budget at whatever level you think is right. watching us break down and not get these basic fundamental parts of the government accomplished at all. >> in a more practical matter, shut down the government, social security bets, national don't go out, national parks close. the -- >> agencies can't plan. strategic planning is at the

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the 6.8 magnitude quake reduce buildings to rubble, including in the historic city of america. rescue operations are ongoing this morning. the u.s. embassy in robot issued an alert advising u.s. citizens to exercise caution for the next 24 hours in case of aftershocks. stay with msnbc throughout the day for the latest on this story. we turn to history being made in mississippi. on tuesday a democratic primary runoff election was held in a state house district southwest of jackson. the winner 38-year-old fabian nelson who is set to become the state's first out gate legislator when he runs unopposed in november. the historic win means mississippi joined the 48 other states that have elected an adult algae -- with the lone holdout being louisiana. joining me now, mississippi

state representative-elect, phabian nelson. representative nelson, thank you for coming to the saturday show. >> my pleasure, thank you for having me. i am excited to be here. >> what does it mean to you to make history? >> it feels really good. i can say i really didn't understand the gravity of the historical significance until the news broke out and i won the election going into this election, i was a guy that wanted to step up and advocate and help the community. >> throughout your campaign, you didn't run on making history. you talked about the water crisis in jackson, crime, broadband access and development. -- the first out transgender u.s. state representative or legislator, she similarly campaigned on local issues like infrastructure and fixing traffic lights. was that a strategic move on your part to follow the danica roem playbook here? >> no, it was not.

my thing was i wanted to do what my district needs. the thing about, it being the first of anything does not make you the best nor does it make you the worst. we have issues that are playing the community, such as the water crisis, such as crimes, such as broadband expansion. so, those are the issues that are near and dear. before anything, i have to represent my district. i have to represent the 24,000 people that i represent in my district. it's important and that's what my priority is going into the state legislature in january. >> we just put up your winning percentage. it wasn't even close. 69% to 31%. your campaign tactics worked. representative-elect, what issues from your campaign will be your number one priority when you get to the state

capital? >> like you said, we really got in front of the people. i am knocking on every single door in the district five times just to connect with the community. i started doing things in the community way back when i first started running for office. i told my people the job does not start when i'm elected, the job started when i announce when i'm running for office. so, the first thing that we are going to tackle is medicaid expansion here in mississippi. we are seeing our hospitals closing at an alarming rate. we are on slate to close another one third of our state hospitals here in mississippi. we have to have medicaid expansion. i always say health care is a human right. it is not an option. we have to take care of our people. if we are not taking care of our people, we are not having the space to do anything else. that is my top priority. >> all right, i will keep my eyes on you once you officially become state representative

from mississippi, baby and allison. i will have you back on the show to check in on you. mississippi state representative-elect phabian allison, thank you for joining us this morning. >> no problem, thank you so much for having me. >> after the break, trail blazer roofs stemmons comes to the saturday show to talk about her new memoir, the details in adversary and her eyes the top ranks of higher education. that is next. s next ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourists photographing thousands of miles of remote coral reefs. that can be analyzed by ai in real time. ♪ so researchers can identify which areas are at risk. and help life underwater flourish. ♪ listen, your deodorant just has to work.

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of first. first black president of smith college. first black president of an ivy league school with brown university. the first female president of prairie view a&m. quite a beautiful trajectory from your humble beginnings. >> i wrote the book, jonathan, really to make sure that my students understood that there is nothing miraculous about what i've done. i have taken advantage of every opportunity to learn. >> we saw the supreme court strike down affirmative action programs in consideration of race in the admissions progress to universities. in talking about your story, i am wondering, what effect will this have on black students in the institutions of higher learning that prize diversity? >> it's one reason i wanted and i'm thankful my book is coming out now.

young people might see this decision as blocking their path to opportunity. blocking their path to success and happiness. i want them to know that we've been through so many versions of the crisis. because of our forebears because of the activists, because of good and caring people, we have come through them. i am hoping that this gives them some view of how we will manage through this crisis. it is a crisis. we will manage through it. it is being carried out in a political context. remember that. political context don't last forever. especially when people are engaged and interested in overturning obsolete policies. >> to pick up on your comment about these political contacts

that don't last forever, we are seeing a systemic dismantling of teaching of black history, including new standards that push ideas like enslaved people develop skills that could be applied for their personal benefit. your thoughts on this rewriting of history? the political context is not lasting forever. if you take away people's knowledge, that has the potential of lasting forever. >> well, it cannot last forever. it is sinister beyond belief. remember now, when i was a child, we were forbidden to know certain kinds of things. we were fed a diet of, you are inferior, you will always be inferior. the history is worth nothing. you don't need to know about it. we have been through that. has i say, the human spirit fundamentally knows it better

than that. we overcome it. so, whatever they do to squelch our ability to know who we are and what we are, worth that is always going to be overturned. especially with novices getting into the educational system and trying to shape it through their own ands. they know nothing about education. they know nothing about history. so, educators especially have to be at the forefront in finding these impulses to become ignorant again. >> dr. simmons, the number one thing you want folks to take away from reading your book? >> well, i'm sure you had the same experience that i had, jonathan, because of your success. i want them to understand that education is everything. i want young people to put the time in and to learn about the past and their history. to learn about what they can accomplish in their.

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i said, why don't i call upon the best resource i, have, coal for his experience as well as my other kids experiences and turn this into an app. so, i partnered with my firstborn, my favorite firstborn, game up. i did not say that. game up was born. >> game up was born. she invoked your name as the favorite firstborn. so, tell us about your experiences playing sports growing up. why you think this app can make a difference for kids. >> the main thing is youth basketball, navigating the whole scene through kids and our parents has not gotten easier. i know from when i was younger, there wasn't as much going. on it was still difficult to navigate. for me personally, i played on several different levels. i played for hours with the worst kids on the team. you, know kids would pick up a basketball. to being one of the better kids on the team. and to being one of the best kids in the country and i

pretty much played every single level so, it's hard to navigate. it's hard to figure out what he was right for you. we just kind of came together in, like okay, she came to me. let me say that. she was like, no, mom i'm here for. you i am game. i will listen. >> that is great, crystal when you are talking about the parents coming up to you over all these, years you told that to people magazine that you did with them. i was just wondering, how will this affect protect parents from unreliable sources? is the information in the app checked to ensure every program and trainer is reliable? >> sure, well let me put a caveat there. the first line of defenses, many of these teams that we are recommending include the platform are teams that people we know have played for or their kids have played for or

coached. there is this built in curation. we and our network have been through these teams and can about for them. that being said, you cannot account for teams a skyrocketing their prices. it is one of the issues that has gotten more and more expensive. we can't say that you won't have a coach that might miss a practice. that is one of the things that we tried to navigate against. we will have a rating system to sort of rank the reliability of these teams and rank -- is it on the affordable level? ? is it a team that travels more than a family wants to travel. is it a team that except the kid but your kid will never get playing time. just so parents and kids will understand what type of organization they are getting involved in. it is one of the biggest questions that we have gotten.

youth sports has gotten just more and more expensive. that is another thing we're trying to address with this. we started the game up, 50 ways foundation. kohl's foundation will help parents that want to have their kids join some of these programs. it will help them financially. >> since your mom gave you a plug, talk about the 50 ways foundation. >> i finally got my foundation up and running. it is the 50 ways foundation. we want to help bridge the financial gap for a lot of parents who are trying to provide the best experience on this basketball scene for their kids. the scene has gotten very expensive. it is not getting any less expensive. we want to help do our part because i had friends that when i was younger were able to play

for teams. . it wasn't expensive. nowadays it becomes extremely expensive. >> there is traveling costs. >> there is pain to play teams, you're paying for a tournament. there is stuff like that. you have parents, they want to provide a good experience. parents, they want to provit's expensive, as we said. >> you have to be -- >> right, really quickly, we have less than 30 seconds left. any plans to expand game up for the tri-state area? >> we will expand across the united states, we will expand beyond basketball. jonathan, we are kicking off game up tomorrow, city assess, we will have the empire invitation. all it will be at the police athletic league in harlem from 9:30 am to six pm. come out. there will be great games. there will be skills and clinics. there will be game up youth

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