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same time, because of that tie, it may come down to a goal difference. i'll send it back to you. >> our thanks to molly. as molly mentioned, team usa faces portugal tomorrow morning at 3:00 a.m. eastern. you can see the match live on telemundo and peacock. lots of thanks to molly for covering all the games. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." "chris jansing reports" right now. good day. i'm chris janson live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. in a week that could be packed with historic legal developments the first shoe dropped this morning in florida. carlos de oliveira, a man largely unknown in trump world, made his first appearance before a federal judge. with additional indictments still looming, could today's floored headline end up just a
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footnote by the time this week is over. part of that depends on fulton county d.a. fani willis. she's been telling local reporters, quote, some people may not be happy with my decisions and says the local sheriffs putting up security barriers is a smart move. we'll get the latest from georgia in a minutes. "the new york times" calls it a month in hell for the city of phoenix. 31 straight days of temperatures over 110. hospitals still overwhelmed. billions lost in the economy nationwide. the poor suffering the most among the millions made miserable by the heat. formering governor john kasich says his fellow republicans need to wake up to the threat of climate change. why are so few heeding the call? we start in florida where the world got its first glimpse at mar-a-lago property manager carlos de oliveira, the name forever added to the list of
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alleged co-conspirators alongside donald trump. de oliveira accused of trying to help trump delete video evidence and lying to investigators. the 56-year-old did not enter a plea because he does not have local counsel. the judge gave him another week and a half to find one. by the time he's arraigned on august 10th, trump may have a whole new set of indictments both in washington and fulton county, georgia, an expensive proposition on many levels. "the washington post" reporting trump's legal bills for the year have already topped $40 million, more than he brought in for his entire campaign last quarter. i want to bring in nbc's garrick headache, katie phang who is outside the courthouse in florida, and joyce vance, a former u.s. attorney, laugh professor at university of alabama and msnbc liam analyst. katie, give us a rundown of what
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happened in that courthouse today. >> reporter: de oliveira showed up with john irving, a d.c.-based lawyer representing him through this process thus far. they entered the courtroom where magistrate judge tore regs was preceding. the question was to determine if de oliveira obtained local counsel. they tried to reset the arraignment for august 25th which is the next major cifa hearing. judge torres said no. judge cannon wants to make sure this arraignment occurs prior to august 25th. to those wondering whether or not the case gets put out further, deolivera didn't enter a plea. however, he was released on a $100,000 personal surety bond. he has to surrender his expired american passport and abide by
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the bond conditions that trump and nauta have imposed, specifically that they cannot speak to or communicate with a list of witnesses prepared by the department of justice about the facts of this case. notably, chris, the names listed from that list, donald trump, walt nauta and de oliveira. his lawyer was bombastic when leaving court making an announcement to the reporters in the scrum stating the doj needs to put their money where their mouth is. >> all right, joyce, we'll get to the money where the mouth is in a little bit. do you think de oliveira simply couldn't find legal counsel? is it more part of a legal strategy to delay the trial whether it works or not? what do you think is going on here? >> chris, this is the second defendant we've seen in this case use precisely the same tactic, i can't find a local
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lawyer. america is getting this wonderful education in the federal legal process. i don't view to have a lawyer barred in the southern district of florida. people are sometimes indicted and do have to find a local lawyer. but both of these defendants, de oliveira and walt nauta, they're residents in this judicial district. they have lawyers from washington, d.c. that's not the situation that you normally see with people who reside in the district where the court is located. they have better access to local lawyers. so with the repetition of this, it does begin to look maybe less like a strategy and more like a tactic because we know trump's legal team's tactic is delay. there is no factual defense that trump has offered to these charges. he's acknowledged he had the documents. the law is not on their side. it will be delay, delay, delay from here on out. >> joyce, do you think these charges put additional pressure on either de oliveira or others
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in the trump world, aides who might flip and cooperate with the government, or maybe they're not flipping. maybe they're not charged with anything, maybe they just know something. >> so, if this was a typical case, you would expect to see folks like this, to the extent they didn't plead guilty and cut a deal with prosecutors before they were indicted, this would be a real moment for them, when they understand they're looking at charges that carry penalties of up to 0 years in prison. for someone in their late 50s like de oliveira, that's a very serious sort of threat. because their lawyers come from within trump world, even though those lawyers do have an obligation to represent their clients and not the people who have procured them for their clients, i think increasingly we'll see questions. at some point the government may decide it needs to ask the court to make a record, to put the
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clients and the lawyers in the courtroom and to talk about conflicts and see if the clients want to wave conflicts of interest to continue with representation. honestly, these look like situations where you would expect to see a very favorable deal for these sorts of defendants. they're entitled to continue and go to trial. it's just in the in their best southwests. >> to mess with a well-known statement, garrett, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. we all know that de oliveira is somebody who was very faithful to donald trump, has served him for a very long time. you keep your friends close, but potential enemies, maybe you keep even closer. i'm wondering if you're hearing anything in trump world about providing him with a lawyer, the level of confidence they have on him not turning on trump. >> chris, this comes up at the end of the super seeding indictment here, this
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conversation which was on somebody's phone that the special counsel got ahold of, asking the question of whether de oliveira is someone who can be trusted and whether he's loyal. it appears that the trump broader team decided the answer to the question is yes. the former president has defended him, although not by name, on his social media accounts over the weekend, arguing people who work for him, loyal, hard working people who work for him are being targeted by the justice department as a way to get to him. we know and i think we'll talk about some more the idea that trump has used his political pac here to spend a little extra money to help not just himself but others cover their legal expenses. i would not be surprised when we get around to the filings in a couple months to find olivera's name on there as someone whose services were provided for by the trump orbit. >> yeah, $40 million already spent, at least according to the
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numbers in "the washington post." as we said at the top of the show, more than he raised in the quarter. is there a point in which anyone is concerned in trump world when this task of continuing to fight all these myriad charges get bigger and bigger and bigger, that it puts so much financial impact on him, it impacts the campaign? >> it's not just financial. it's logistical. planning campaign events around arraignments and court appearances, it's difficult to run a traditional schedule. i think it's part of the reason we've seen donald trump lean into his legal problems as much as he has on the political stage. he's making himself a political martyr and using the fact that he's at the center of all these investigations as a way of saying i'm being targeted because i am the strongest opponent of president biden and that's why they're coming after me. it's not just a throw-away line here.
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it's a way for any candidate would be a weakness, in his case be a strength. we're finding in poll after poll that it's working. >> we'll talk in a little bit about the latest poll which is all good news for donald trump. let me go back to the legal part of it, elena hab ba, one of trump's lawyers gave us one of the previews of the defense they're playing. let me play it for you, joyce. >> what was the obstruction of justice? no tapes were deleted. he turned them over, he cooperated as he always does. you'll see every video, every surveillance tape requested was turned over. if president trump didn't want something turned over, i assure you that is something that would never have done. he's the most ethical american i know. >> is that a viable defense, joyce? >> well, talk is cheap when you're on television and you have the ability to say anything that you'd like to. that is a pretty fact-free
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analysis of the situation. the reality is that the government's's /* pleadings -- the evidence is clear when it comes to obstruction of justice. the facts are, in essence, not challenged, that the former president held on to documents, refused to turn them over. the government had to execute a search. and now more details are remerging about events depicted on video tape, showing movement and documents that surface in bedminster with trump saying ought loud that he was aware he no longer had the ability to declassify information and wasn't even sure he should be showing it to people in the meeting where he waves around the battle plan for iran. that's sort of a good luck with that sort of defense for her. great for trump in the court of public opinion.
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not very likely to succeed in a court of law. >> garrett was talking about how this could all confuse what is always already a complicated situation which is to run for president. what about on the legal side as we look to see what fani willis might do this week or next? >> right. so it's very difficult to assess how all these four different potential prosecutions against trump interplay. one of the interesting aspects about this is any statements he makes in public about any of these cases can be used against him in court proceedings in others. so, again, we're not talking about a typical case. if we were, he wouldn't be talking about any of these prosecutions publicly because all of it hangs out there. as for scheduling, this becomes a very complicated matter. there's a double-edged sword for trump if he continues to delay the mar-a-lago prosecution. if a judge down the road sees a
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gap of a couple months on his calendar, they might slide one of these later indicted cases into an earlier position. although trump has used delay very successfully as a tactic over the years, it may be that it's not all upside for him this go around. >> joyce vance will stay with me. garrett haake and kaie phang, thank you very much. is former president donald trump about to be indicted again? we'll tell you what we're hearing directly from the fulton county d.a. in just 60 seconds. s *s easy-to-use tools, like dynamic charting and risk-reward analysis help make trading feel effortless. and its customizable scans with social sentiment help you find and unlock opportunities in the market. e*trade from morgan stanley. with powerful, easy-to-use tools, power e*trade makes complex trading easier. react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won't miss an opportunity.
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i'm not willing to put my employees in harm's way. i'm not willing to put any of the employees or the constituents that come to the courthouse in harm's way. i think the sheriff is doing something smart in making sure the courthouse stays safe. >> protective barriers have already gone up around the courthouse. starting today, many courthouse workers have been told to work from home for most of august. i want to bring in nbc's blayne alexander from outside the fulton county courthouse in atlanta. also bringing back joyce vance. have these threats given fani willis a little bit of pause? >> as far as how she's proceeding with the investigation, no, not at all. in terms of how she's preparing for her charging decisions to be announced, which she's given a very strong indication would happen within the next three weeks at some point, yes, she wants to make sure security is as tight as it can possibly be. you see that evidenced by the orange barricades behind me
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that's not something we typically see inside the fulton county courthouse. it's something she's been thinking about when you consider the fact that she sent a letter to local law enforcement in may, block out these three weeks of time, i'm directing much of my staff to work from home. i hope judges don't schedule hearing during this time period. she wanted to make sure the officials had ample time to shore up security. it's something she told me in an interview last summer, that she's upped her own security, she even shared some of those threats with county commissioners in an email over the weekend. as for what we're expecting to see in the next few weeks or sorks she's made it clear she's ready to go and even said that at a back-to-school event. take a look. >> i made a commitment to the american people, most importantly the citizens of fulton county that we were going to be making some big decisions regarding the election
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investigation and that i would do that before september 1st of 2023. i'm going to hold true to that commitment. we've been working for 2 1/2 years. we're ready to go. >> reporter: chris, i want to talk about what we do know here and what we're waiting to learn. this period of july 31st through august 18th, that's the time period where she's directing people to work from home where there's this iet ended sense of security. we know there are currently two grand juries seated and hearing cases. one of those, either the one that meets on monday or tuesday or the other that meets on thursday and friday will receive this investigation that they've been looking into for the past two years. what we don't know is when she'll present the case. we don't know how they're going to decide. we're certainly going to be watching closely, knowing she plans to make that announcement in the coming weeks. >> joyce, she says she's ready to go. what other factors would go into
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that situation? obviously she seems to think she's got her ts crossed and is dotted. what else is she considering as she decides when to make this happen? >> one of the interesting unknowns here is whether there's been any coordination between fani willis and federal prosecutors on jack smith's team. we've already seen the former president in new york when he was indicted try to remove a state prosecution into federal court. he was unsuccessful there. this is a different case. perhaps there's a better rationale for making that effort here because the charges involve his team in office. we will see that happen again. whether fani willis might be coordinating with jack smith both on timing and on what substantive charges she might decide to bring remains to be seen. it's an interesting possibility. >> in an email obtained by the "atlanta journal constitution" willis warned other county leaders, as we said, by sharing
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one of the many obscene emails she's gotten since taking the case, calling willis, quote, a corrupt -- racial expletive -- threatening, you are going to fail, you jim crow democrat -- another expletive. we've seen these threats rise, especially in the justice system. is she right to be concerned? is she right to make sure not just legally she has all her ducks in a row but securitywise as well? >> she is absolutely right. fani willis' concern is not for herself. it's for others. it's for people who work in the courthouse, people who work in her office and citizens in the area. fulton county is where two election workers, ruby freeman and her daughter shaye moss were victimized. they became the victims of rudy giuliani's fake stories about election fraud. those stories were perpetuated by donald trump. we heard the powerful testimony
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from those two during the january 6th committee meetings. that shaye moss was afraid to do so much as go to the grocery store or speak her mother's name out loud. yes, fani willis is being smart and heads up to make sure there's no one in her county who is endangered because of whatever decisions she'll make in the next couple weeks. >> we don't want to get too far ahead of our skis. if there is an indictment, what are the most likely charges? >> i think we've long been working under the assumption, who is an expert in georgia's rico statute, is envisioning a widespread sort of indictment. we've also seen in the last couple weeks a michigan indictment by the state's attorney general where she charged only the inside folks in michigan, only the people involved in the fake electors scheme there leaving other charges related to the election
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and the big lie to federal prosecutors. i think this is a mystery. willis certainly has jurisdiction to charge folks involved in election interference in her county. this is, of course, the site of trump's phone call ahead of january 6th where he's alternately threatening and begging georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger to find him just the number of votes he needs to win in the state. i'm tempted to say here we'll have to wait and see what willis has chosen to indict. >> joyce vance, always good to have you on the program. thank you. protests turn violent in niger after the military locks up the country's leader in an attempted coup. our correspondent is the only american reporter there and will be live after the break. first, we just got in this breaking news. paul reubens, the actor known for his portrayal of peewee
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a 31-year-old new hampshire native and young child are still missing this hour after being kidnapped in happy where alix dorsainvil worked for a non-profit started by her husband. >> i was invited to the school to do some of the nursing for the kids, that that was a big need they had. >> the state department said it's working closely with haitian officials and others but no further details were shared. the abductions came on the same day that the u.s. non-emergency government personnel and family members to leave haiti as soon as possible citing the risk of kidnapping, crime and civil
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unrest. five people including a 10-year-old child are dead after a russian missile struck in the hometown of president solgds. more than 60 others were injured when the missile struck a residential building and university complex. video showed smoke pouring from the building and a gaping hole where several upper floors had been. president zelenskyy warned that the war was returning to the territory of russia, an apparent reference to a drone attack in russia hours before a military parade attended by president putin. west african nations are threatening to use force against leaders of a coup in niger if they don't reinstate that country's democratically elected president. over the weekend thousands took to the street in support of that coup attack, raving russian flags and denouncing france, the country's former colonial power.
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the protest turned violent where demonstrators attacking the french embassy, setting fire to the front door. six people were injured when police broke up the crowd. nbc's courtney kube is reporting from the nation's capital. i know we just got a look at niger's president for the first time. he's meeting with the president of chad to find a peaceful resolution to this crisis. what's the latest? >> reporter: that's right. it was the first time we had seen him since he was taken into custody by his own security forces in knee niamey. the president of chad was essentially dispatched here after a weekend meeting of leaders. they came together to find some sort of a way forward to end this political turmoil in niger. they came out with pretty strong language, chris, including saying they would close their borders to niger and that if, in
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fact, the coup leaders, the military coup leaders didn't release the democratically elected president mohammed bazoum, there could be military action. not only did he meet with president bazoum, but with the coup leaders. the hope is somehow he can broker a deal. we heard from u.s. secretary of state antony blinken about the weekend's meeting and the declaration that came out of these west african leaders. he praised the ecowas for the restoration of all state functions to a legitimate dem klatt cli elected government. the hope was the regional would come together and might be able to dismatch their military chiefs, their defense chiefs to niger who would be able to talk to the junta. it's not clear how the discussions went between the president of chad and military leaders. >> courtney, i know you'll keep
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us updated. thank you. this attempted coup is one of several threats no the rule of law happening over the globe. in our next hour, i'll talk with former undersecretary of state about the ongoing dangers to democracy. after months of record-breaking heat, even the animals are trying to find creative ways to cool off. will this devastating stretch of triple-digit temperatures inspire action to combat climate change? we'll discuss. the barbenheimer bonanza continues at the box office. the barbie moving pulling in a massive $93 million for the second week end, followed by "oppenheimer" at $46 million. combined the two movies surpassed $1 billion in worldwide ticket sales. as "variety" put it. it's a barbenheimer world and we're just living in it. we'll be right back. it. we'll be right back.
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the city of phoenix is at its breaking point, burning through yet another record with 31 days straight of hotter than 110 degrees. the temperatures have been deadly, and emergency rooms report rising cases of third degree burns from scaldings, sidewalks, even door knobs. it's so hot, arizona's iconic giant cacti which usually live for more than 150 years are
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literally melting, losing limbs and even falling over. in los angeles county police took this video as they responded to a call about an intruder. no, your eyes are not deceiving you. that is, in fact, a bear. i would argue one smart bear, cooling off in the pool and checking out the burbank skyline. nbc meteorologist bill karins is with me. >> elbows up. >> i used to live in that neck of the woods. i've never seen a bear in a pool. man, this has been a long brutal hall. >> my dad lives in phoenix. he said, you can stop talking about me now, move on and talk about another portion of the country. >> how is he doing. >> early morning walks. the previous record was 31, the previous record is only 18 in a row. we're way, way past that in the
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help we've done before. today's forecast high only 107. it looks like a couple days below 110. a new streak. where is the heat headed? it goes from the southwest to right over the top of dallas. we'll be talking a lot about dallas and the areas in texas and southern oklahoma, arkansas, louisiana, over the next couple days. that's we have excessive heat warnings. new orleans on pace for your hottest summer you've ever recorded. under an excessive heat warning. let's see who the hottest is right now? dallas, 10 degrees. one of the rare occasions where dallas may end up just as hot as areas in the desert southwest. as far as possible records go, all these little dots show us where we could see record highs today, nine different states. once again, florida -- the water is so warm around florida right now, even during the day, it
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doesn't take much to get up toward record highs. that's the case across much of the south. over the next 6-10 days, i don't have good news for you. no one is complaining about this summer in the northern plains, the great lakes, the northeast. the southern half of the country continues to bake. we'll hear this week, chris, we'll get all of our numbers added up for july. it's going to be the hottest month ever recorded on the planet. some scientists say it's the hottest in 120,000 years on this planet. that information will come out tuesday through thursday. record-breaking stuff across the board. not just in our country, but as far as the globe is concerned. never been this warm before. >> it's worth pointing out, bill, experts not only say this month is the hottest month ever, but also that climate change is to blame. yet today, ignoring activists and the united nations who called for an end to fossil fuel investment, the uk green lit
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hundreds of gas and oil extraction licenses. in the u.s. the supreme court cleared the way for the construction of a new pipeline, won the wilderness society says it's a threat to our water, air and climate. i want to bring in former governor john kasich, an msnbc political analyst. we can argue about some of these individual things. let's look at the big picture. years ago, governor, you called on policymakers in what you say, in what you wrote, to stop denying, to act on climate change. at this moment, politicians seem more divided than ever on solutions to a problem that we all know is only getting worse. do you think on the other side the people who don't want change, is it denialism? is it they believe it's bad for the economy? what is motivating it at this point, governor? >> well, maybe both of them to
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some degree. chris, the fact of the matter is, first of all, you have weather and weather needs to be separated from climate. but the fact that the climate, the fact we're heating the atmosphere is influencing our weather. there's no question about it. maybe it's some fact that they want to stick to fossil fuels. let's talk a little bit about that. natural gas -- i frankly look at it as a bridge to renewables. we have to gop the renewables, but we have to develop the storage capacity so when the sun is not shining you still have power even if you're using solar panels. the fact is we want to get the renewables as fast as we can. i think coal plants, we're trying to decommission them. in my state when i was governor we had a 30% reduction in emissions, not just co2 but methane which is even more damaging to the environment than co2 is.
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that's because we made a strip from coal -- >> let me stop you. how did you do that? how pain. was it and did you achieve what you thought you were going to achieve? other states might look at this. >> there's no pain connected to it. it's simply the right thing to do. we had the opportunity because of fracking to be able to tap more natural gas. that was working. i only saw natural gas really as a bridge to where we'll get to on renewables. there's another issue here, chris. that's the problem that the chinese and the indians keep building more coal plants which belches out more emissions and is more damaging to the environment. the question is when the chinese say, oh, we'll get around to it or the indians saying we're developing and we're not prepared to do that, it's a major problem for the earth. the solution here lies globally. it's not just the united states, but we're critical, we need to develop these technologies. it's a global thing where we have to begin to put the
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pressure on china and india to get with the program. it's all those things. but ultimately i think people will wake up at some point. the problem s you tell me what china is going to do? we've got to figure out a way to have leverage on them so they begin to change and not build a new coal plant like every month. it's crazy. >> domestically should president biden, should people who believe as you do, be making an economic argument? there's a big headline in "the new york times" today that says just heat is costing the u.s. economy build euns in lost productivity. that's one of many economic arguments that would could make. >> i think the economics is something that's important. but chris, there's another element here. we need to take care of the creation. the lord gave us the creation. we're not to worship it but certainly to take care of it. it's not just a matter of dollars and cents.
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it's about what we'll leave to our grandchildren and their children that, if we go too far, we'll destroy the ability to recover from this. i don't want to be an alarmist about it, but we have to move quickly. it's the movement to renewables, ability to develop storage, the batteries we need to be able to store in a time when those sources are not working. the transition is with natural gas, ultimately away from fossil fuels into other kinds of renewables and at the same time the global approach in regard to china and india. that's a place perhaps where the united nations could be useful. there's no question that what's happening today with the weather, the heat that we're seeing has been impacted by the warming of the earth and by climate. there's no question about it. and the oceans, by the way, which have usually served as a way to cool the land, as you saw what it's like in florida, over 100 degrees in the water down there. it's like being in a hot tub. that is absolutely impacted by
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this growing crisis of climate. >> former governor john kasich at the otterbein university. always good to see you. >> thanks, chris. still ahead, the growing fallout over the republican senator who has been standing in the way of military promotions. how will the gop respond if tommy tuberville's protest goes on for months? later, one-on-one with benjamin netanyahu. the israeli prime minister talks to nbc as protesters keep up the pressure over his plan to overhaul the judiciary, accusing him of being a threat to democracy. a threat to mocracy. from prom dresses... ...to workouts... ...and new adventures. you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past... they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. although uncommon, up to 1 in 5 survivors of meningitis will have long term consequences. now as you're thinking about all the vaccines your teen might need, make sure you ask your doctor
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we don't know how it ends, chris. it's a big problem because it's not only those high-level military flag officers from the several branches of the military but also the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. so how does it end? chuck schumer could decide to take all of these to the floor and try to break the logjam that way. that would take a very long time. they could try to strike some sort of deal with tuberville. he's been unwilling for the most part to strike a deal. and the fissure, the split in the republican party's pretty profound. you had lindsey graham saying to us just before they left for recess that he is sympathetic to the underlying policy cause here, which is the pentagon's abortion policy but he's not sure that this is the best tactic to use to try to get them to change that policy, which by the way, chris, suggests that they're not going to change. this is the united states senate and an ving senator can do this and not give consent. remember, most of these types of positions are confirmed on
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unanimous consent. so this is an unusual blockade to say the least. >> schumer could have, though, called for individual votes, right? so why didn't he? >> because it would take a long time. he could, but remember, the process to get anything through the senate, chris, is extremely arduous and would take a very long time and there's a lot of stuff that's going on. there's appropriations bills. remember, when we get back from august recess in september there's going to be about three weeks to fund the government before a shutdown. floor time is precious. and without consent from all 100 senators nothing moves quickly. so that's the reality that they're facing. >> clearly he doesn't care. >> he doesn't really care. it doesn't seem -- he said he represents alabama, he doesn't represent senate republicans. and of course there's some truth to that i guess. but democrats are pretty angry. but these kinds of things happen on a smaller scale.
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he's not making a lot of people happy not least the people in the pentagon who want their leadership put in place. >> the pentagon but how about supporters on the republican side of the pentagon, of the military? the fact that this is holding up so many nominations. is it in their minds a real national security risk as the paige says? >> yes. and by the way, there might be implications for alabama. there's discussion about where the space force command will be, and i think the biden administration has said several times that it might not be in alabama. it was slated to be. so there's going to be retribution for the state of alabama theoretically. if this doesn't end pretty soon. >> jake sherman, always great to have you on the program. thanks, jake. >> thanks, chris. and still ahead, for the first time since his arrest we're hearing from the wife of the accused gilgo beach killer. her message after learning the big bombshell of her husband's alleged double life. that's next. ged double life. atth's next.
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for the first time since her husband's arrest the wife of the accused gilgo beach serial killer is telling her story. the impact of learning about his alleged double life. nbc's stephanie gosk has the details. >> reporter: days after investigators wrapped up collecting evidence at rex heuermann's home his wife, asa ellerup, and her two adult children returned to a life they no longer recognize. >> it's been a very tumultuous time for them. life has been thrown upside down in the past few weeks. >> reporter: the family of a manhattan architect charged in the gilgo beach serial killings is now asking for privacy, writing in a statement that they have endured profound and indescribable catastrophe. heuermann's wife adding "i am pleading with you all to give us space so that we may regain? normalcy in our neighborhood." >> the streets were closed. you had to get access by police escort to get to their own home. the neighbors have been impacted just as much as she has. >> reporter: some neighbors are reaching out, sending care
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packages and grocery deliveries. one writing "dear neighbors, we are thinking of you through this difficult time. if there's anything we can do for you, please let us know." ellerup filed for divorce on july 19th, right after 59-year-old heuermann was arrested and charged with three counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of three women in their 20s believed to have been sex workers over a decade ago. and he's now the main suspect in the disappearance and death of a fourth woman. >> we have obtained a massive amount of material. >> reporter: following a nearly two-week search of the family home investigators say it will take time to analyze and catalog what they found. as police in other states are also looking into potential connections to other unsolved crimes. including in las vegas, nevada where heuermann had a time share. and in atlantic city, new jersey for possible ties to the 2006 eastbound strangler case. while his estranged wife focuses on moving on with her life. >> she needs to protect herself and her children, not knowing what's going to happen with him.
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>> reporter: stephanie gosk, nbc news. >> we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. at this hour the battle over the supreme court. a top senate democrat blasting justice samuel alito as, quote, stunningly wrong for saying congress doesn't have the power to issue ethics rules. so where does this fight go from here? the tragic story out of haiti. an american mother and her child kidnapped during an aid mission as gang violence overtakes the country. plus drones bring the ukrainian war into vladimir putin's back yard. massive explosions hitting moscow. how russia is now responding. and the mar-a-lago property manager turned criminal defendant. a trump staffer accused of helping the former president move classified documents making his first appearance in

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