all right, that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good to see you my friend. >> good to see you. we have so much to cover tonight, from that hearing in the house judiciary committee as you covered, and so many more.

including at the end of this hour, the kind of story that everybody in washington is dreaming about this summer. as you know, the town fills up with insurance in the summer. we are going to have a senate candidate joining us at the end of the hour, who began her career as an intern in the senator's office. the senator who she is trying to replace, that senator is going to be leaving the senate and she is going to maybe be the next senator, and that's the dream in washington. to go to senator. >> as someone who started his career as an intern in washington, i'm looking forward to that. you have a great show my friend. >> it's a great story. thank you. we have breaking news tonight in jack smith's investigation, special prosecutor's investigation of donald trump's possible illegal possession of government documents. the department of justice has made its first discovery

delivery of information to the trump team. and that discovery that has been delivered to the trump defense team includes the grand jury testimony of witnesses who will testify for the government in the trial of this case. and so that means that tonight, jack smith has handed over to donald trump's lawyers the grand jury testimony of the witnesses who will be testifying for the government. that means donald trump will soon, tomorrow if not sooner, be aware for the first time of all of the witnesses who will testify against him. in the federal prosecution of donald trump. and donald trump will know what they have already said, under oath, in the grand jury.

so, this is not just the names of these witnesses who testified to the grand jury, but their actual testimony is being handed over according to this court filing the prosecution has delivered the grand jury testimony. the testimony of witnesses who will testify for the governments in the trial of this case. that's basically the case. jack smith has handed over to donald trump's criminal defense lawyers, the grand jury testimony of the witnesses who will be testifying in the case. most of them testifying directly against donald trump. donald trump will be discovering for the first time who, working at mar-a-lago, has testified against him. in the grand jury, who might still be currently working for donald trump, has testified against him. who has worked for donald trump in the past, has testified

against him in the grand jury in the documents case. all of that, all of those names, all of that information is now available to donald trump. he is going to see for the first time laid out in full for him tomorrow if not tonight, exactly what the case against him looks like, what the under oath testimony will consist of in the courtroom, because in general, the under oath testimony in court mirrors what the under oath testimony was in the grand jury. the witnesses have usually very slight variation if any between their grand jury testimony and their courtroom testimony. and so it is all there. donald trump's criminal defense lawyers and donald trump now have it all. they have the case of the united states of america versus donald trump. this is in their hands right now, the full grand jury testimony of all of the

witnesses who will testify against donald trump. andrew weissmann is with us tonight to analyze that, and much more that we have to cover tonight. and tonight is one of those nights, where we have to reflect on the fact that you live in a country where the incoming president replaced every u.s. attorney, as is customary for new presidents, but this time, the president deported from that political custom in one instance. the president did not replace the republican appointed u.s. attorney who was investigating the presidents son. the new attorney general, chosen by the new president did not in any way interfere with the u.s. attorney who was investigating the president some, and he was appointed by the previous president. you live in a country where the president and the attorney general belief that no one is

above the law, including the presidents son. some people don't want to live in that country. some people want to live in a country where the president fires anyone who would dare to investigate him or his family, and promises to use federal prosecutors to go after his political opponents. >> i will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the united states of america, joe biden. >> that is the kind of country some people want to live. in a country where a president appoints a prosecutors to go after his opponents. joe biden did not appoint the special prosecutor who has indicted donald trump on espionage crimes, and who has tonight handed over to donald trump and his criminal defense lawyers, all of the grand jury

testimony against donald trump in that case. joe biden has not said one word about that case, not one word about the prosecution of donald trump, not one word about donald trump's guilt or innocence. and that is what a president is supposed to say in a situation like this. not one word. donald trump did in effect appoint a special prosecutor during his time in the presidency. he forced his attorney general to appoint john durham, to investigate the investigation of donald trump, and his presidential campaigns russian connections and the support donald trump's presidential campaign got from russia and the russian government. john durham's mission was to prove that the mueller investigation that exposed the connections between donald trump's presidential campaign and the russian governments assistance to the trump campaign never should have happened. trum campaigndurham's mission was toe

that there was nothing for the mueller investigation to investigate. john durham had accomplished exactly nothing by the time joe biden wasn't aguirre did. president biden and attorney general merrick garland allowed him to continue to accomplish nothing. today, john durham was welcomed to the republican-controlled house judiciary committee, where he presented nothing. >> president biden, through the attorney general, could have had you removed. fired. is that right? >> i'm sure he could have. >> and you stayed on. >> i completed my term as special counsel. >> was there anyone you wanted to indict that you are prohibited from indicting by attorney general garland? >> no. >> so if you wanted to, you could have indicted hillary clinton, but you never asked. is that right?

>> if i had the evidence, yeah. i could have, for sure. >> if you want to indict president biden, you could have asked. right? >> yeah. that was not part of our mission. we were really looking at that. >> if you could have indicted director comey, you could've asked. is that right? >> the attorney general garland had never asked me not to indict somebody. >> and that is the exact opposite of what donald trump is now promising his voters. donald trump is promising his voters special prosecutors who will take orders from him, and that is the country. the trump voters want to live in. in the world of right-wing madness, john durham's failure to prove the unproven ball has become worthy of attack now from the right wing.

>> the fbi did a bunch of wrong and corrupt things. totally understand, or trying to deal with that. but when you are part of the cover-up, mr. durham, then it makes our job harder. >> yeah. will if that's your thought, there is no way of just waiting you from that. i can tell you that it's offensive, and the people who worked on this investigation have spent their lives trying to protect the people in this country and pursue within the law. >> you went over to -- you tried to cases, lost both of them. >> no one exposed the emptiness of john durham's investigation and his testimony to that judiciary committee better than congressman adam schiff. >> mr. durham, you are aware of donald trump's public statements along the lines of, hey russia, are you listening, hack hillary's emails. are you aware of the? >> i'm aware of that. >> and are you where that mueller found that after he

made that plea for -- the russians tried to hack one of the gum email servers affiliated with the family? >> you're not aware of that in the mueller report? >> i am -- >> when you say you are not aware of evidence of collusion in the mueller report, it's apparently because you haven't read the mueller report very well. >> john durham what have had to read all the way to page 49 of the mueller report to find it saying candidate trump made public statements that included the following. russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. the 30,000 emails were apparently a reference to emails described in media accounts as having being stored on a personal server that candidate clinton had used while serving as secretary of state. within approximately five hours of trump's statement, russian

officers targeted for the first time clinton's personal office. after candidate trump's remarks, russian officers created and sent malicious links targeting 15 email accounts at the domain including an email account belonging to a clinton aide. the investigation did not find evidence of earlier russian attempts to compromise accounts hosted on this domain. >> john durham, who conducted an investigation to prove that the mueller investigation was unnecessary testified under oath. that he did not know about that widely reported passage on page 49 of the mueller report. that is not believable. there is plenty of reason to believe tonight that what you just saw was john durham. it was him lying to congress.

>> what the diplomats reported was there was a suggestion of a suggestion that the russians could help damaging information as to mrs. clinton. go >> and that's exactly what happened, isn't it? >> i don't -- >> you really don't know? >> when you say exactly what happened -- >> the russians released stolen emails through cutouts, did they not? >> there were emails. >> it's a very simple question. did they release stolen information through cut outs, yes or no? you really don't know the answer to that? the answer is yes, they did. >> in your mind it's yes. >> mueller's answer was yes. more important than mine, mueller's answer was yes. that information of course was helpful to the trump campaign, wasn't it? >> i don't think there's any question whether the rushes intruded into -- hacked into the systems,

released information. >> and that was helpful to the trump campaign, right? >> and the conclusion, and the rca, and the mueller investigation was that the russians intended to assist -- >> answer my question. that was him helpful to the trump campaign, right? and trump made use of that, didn't he, by touting those stolen documents on the campaign trail over 100 times? >> i said, i don't really read the newspapers or listen to the news. >> you are totally oblivious to donald trump's use of the stolen emails on the campaign trail, more than 100 times? >> i was not aware of. up >> to that escape your attention? >> i am not aware of that. >> a sharp eyed special prosecutor does not read the newspaper? we're supposed to believe that? congressman schiff's reward for that work and for his eight years of persistence in investigating donald trump and serving as the lead impeachment

prosecutor in donald trump's first impeachment trial in the united states senate was to be the subject of a censure vote in the republican-controlled house of representatives today, after congressman shift questioned donald trump's special prosecutor, as you just saw him doing. a vote of censure by the house of representatives, especially this version of the house of representatives, has no meeting. it changes nothing and congressman schiff's life. and it is the kind of thing that house speaker kevin mccarthy has to do politically in order to hold on to his job, after being defeated by president biden in the debt ceiling negotiations. kevin mccarthy brought back nothing to the republican members of the house of representatives. joe biden won the debt ceiling negotiation, decisively, and kevin mccarthy knows that. and so, having just lost a major negotiation involving the actually government of the united states of america, kevin

mccarthy will now allow the most reckless and ignorant members of the house of representatives in history to have their way on the house floor. and today that meant a vote to censor the honorable adam schiff. which in the end, produced shouts of shame. in a house of representatives where republicans head just once again delivered nothing. nothing but shame. >> to hundred 13 and the nays are 209. with six answering present, the resolution adopted without objection the motion are laid on the table. the house will be in order. >> shame! shame! shea! shame!

shame! >> leading off our discussion tonight, democratic congressman eric swalwell of california. he was an impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump. he is a plaintive in a civil suit against donald trump for his role in inciting the january 6th attack on the capitol. also with us andrew weissmann from wright -- and former chief of the criminal's vision -- he is a professor of practice at nyu law school and anne and sbc legal analyst. andrew, let me begin with you and the breaking news of this hour. which is that special prosecutor jack smith following the process in cases like this, has handed over the discovery material pretty much all of it it sounds like, to donald trump's criminal defense lawyers. the court filing says that he has hinted over the grand jury testimony of witnesses who will testify for the governments at the trial of this case. also reports that the evidence,

the discovery evidence handed over to donald trump's criminal defense lawyers includes multiple recordings of donald trump. so, more than just the one recording and that is mentioned in the indictment. what does this tell us about what's happening in the case tonight, what donald trump's lawyers are doing tonight, as they get their hands on this material for the first time? >> sure. let me first address the multiple recordings. the filing makes clear that there's recordings are not done with the government. but they can include things such as the -- interview that we all witnessed. the interview slash confession. so, anything like that would be constituted recording. so, it's not that these are surreptitious recordings. these were done with the consent of donald trump. and what this tells me is that

the government is not playing games at all with discovery. this is an unusual amount of material to get this early in a case. all of the grand jury material for witnesses at trial, all of the interviews by the fbi that is anything that has been transcribed up to may 12, between may 12th and today, they're still transcribing. all of that has been turned over. as well, the government has turned over summaries, key summaries of what they think is important in the case. so in other words, things that can help the defense. if they want to see all of the video tapes at mar-a-lago, they can do it, but the government is pointing out key things to look at they will use in the trial. so this to me is the government saying, we are doing everything to get this material into your hands. because as jack smith said, at this one and only press conference, they will ask for -- >> in andrew, what is it like

on the defense side, on these moments where suddenly you know you've been subject to this investigation, an investigation like this for a very long time. almost a year. you know that people have been going to the grand jury, you don't know who all of them are but you know who some of them are. what is it like for defense counsel and four defendants when they have a night like this where they finally see every single name that has testified under oath against donald trump. and what they said? >> one of the things that's very unusual here is how early this is happening. the government points out that this day, one the defense usually sees all of this material can be a very close to the trial. it can be just a month before trial, sometimes a week before trial. here, it is really just short after the arraignment. so, from a defense perspective, this is great. they want to get their hands around the material, they want to understand the case.

and a normal case, you look at the evidence and if it's really strong you have a conversation with your clients about there's other ways to get around this, which is you should be pleading. i don't see that happening here. but it is clearly useful for the defense, but that's exactly why they're governments doing it. because they're saying, we're giving this material to the defense so they won't be hamstrung. they have this material in time to prepare, because they clearly will be making an application to -- saying, look what we've done. look how much we've provided, let's get a real trial date on the calendar. >> how much does the jack smith prosecution of donald trump inform what happens in the house of representatives these days, including the hearing you have today at the jewish airy committee that you participated in, as we showed, and that vote to censor your colleague, congressman schiff? >> it's driving almost

everything, lawrence. it's nice to see you and andrew again. tomorrow, we have a hearing on the judiciary subcommittee that i am the ranking member on, where they're dragging the department of justice in around the mar-a-lago search for it. and so, this is really framing for the country what their priorities are. which is what you saw today. the house floor could not induct house proceedings. it was a partner's meeting of the law firm of instruction llc. interestingly enough, the chairman of that firm, jim jordan, has never passed the bar exam, which is probably telling, the way that they're conducting this. but it does just illustrate what their priorities are. they're fighting for one client, that's for donald trump. i would also say with respect to what andrew was saying, and andrew and i draw on the benefit of his wisdom, i hope there's a protective order on this witness list. the defendant has already been instructed not to contact the coach offended in this case,

his former navy aide. but i hope he's instructed not to comment publicly on who the witnesses are at this point, or to contact them. because we know that donald trump can aim his venom at these individuals. and he doesn't even have to be the one contacting them. he it could be others reaching out on his behalf and issuing threats, and that could really affect the case. >> andrew, i think that is in the judges order already, isn't it? >> the magistrate judge has filed suit. the same type of order exists in manhattan. judge -- did that in the oven bright case, and the magistrate judge did it to the congressman's point, it is so unusual to imagine that you need this in a case involving the former president of the united states. but unfortunately, that is the situation we're in. the judges are taking this very seriously in terms of making sure that defended trump does not abuse the process that he's entitled to under due process.

>> andrew weissmann, congressman eric swalwell, thank you very much for starting off our discussion tonight and joining us in this breaking news coverage. really appreciate it. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> coming up tonight, thanks to investigative reporting by propublica, we have another episode of republican supreme court justices living like billionaires. this one is storing samuel lido, the author of the supreme court decision overturning roe v. wade. senator sheldon whitehouse will join us next. join us next ♪ i'm going to somewhere, anywhere. ♪ ♪ a beach house, a treehouse, ♪ ♪ honestly i don't care ♪ find the perfect vacation rental for you booking.com, booking. yeah.

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this hour, special prosecutor jack smith in a course filing has indicated that he has handed over to donald trump's criminal defense attorneys, the grand jury testimony of witnesses who will testify for the government in the trial of this case. that means tonight, donald trump and his lawyers have the names and the full grand jury testimony of every witness who will testify against donald trump for the prosecution in this trial. i'm going to ask senator sheldon whitehouse about that in a moment. he's a former federal prosecutor, but first, the latest supreme court problem. republican appointed supreme court justices appear to really hate one thing about their jobs. the paycheck.

supreme court justices are paid $285,400 per year with chief justice getting about 13,000 more than that. and the republican appointed justices who want to leave like billionaires simply have to cozy up to billionaires, as we have seen clarence thomas has done for many, many years. propublica's latest reporting, and what is now a series on the most corrupt supreme court ever publicly exposed, reveals that republican appointed justice samuel alito failed to disclose a hugely expensive trip to a fishing lodge in alaska with republican billionaire named paul singer. propublica reports that pulsing are flew alito to alaska on a private jet. if the justice charted the plane himself, the cost could have exceeded $100,000.01 way. in the years that followed, singers hedge fund came before the court at least ten times in cases where his role was often

covered by the legal press and mainstream media. in 2014, the court agreed to resolve a key issue in a decade long battle between singers hedge funds and the nation of argentina. alito did not recuse himself from the case, and voted with the 71 majority in singer's favor. the hedge fund was ultimately paid 2.4 billion dollars. justice alito refused to answer propublica's questions, email to him on friday. and instead, published a piece in the wall street journal late last night before the propublica report was published to try to defend himself against the damning revelations he knew would be in the article. he insisted that there was no way he could possibly know that his billionaire front was litigant before the supreme court, because the billionaire 's name was hidden in a maze of corporate entities involving the litigation. which is one very good reason why supreme court justices should just never hang with

billionaires. because, billionaires own a lot of things and they own a lot of corporate entities, and corporate entities are the main thing, the main thing that ends up in litigation in the united states supreme court. joining us now is senator sheldon whitehouse of rhode island. he is a member of the senate judiciary committee, and he is now -- he's also the chairman of the budget committee, and importantly, he is the host of the making the case podcast. senator whitehouse, i want to begin with the breaking news of the night. you are a former u.s. attorney, former u.s. prosecutor, we have jack smith hinting over it seems like basically the entire case at this point tonight to donald trump and his criminal defense lawyers. all of the grand jury testimony of the witnesses who will testify against donald trump. what does that tell you about where this case is tonight? >> it tells me that the special counsel thinks he's got a very solid case, and he doesn't need

to be cute. he can be what prosecutors call open komodo and turn over all of the evidence early. it tells me that there's going to be bad christmas for the trump lawyers as they open the different files of evidence, and find out how awful the evidence is against their client. it tells me that they want to stay well ahead of judge cannon and make sure that there could be no complaint about their early disclosure. and it tells me that they want to get trump's attention early, by getting his lawyers the evidence that they need to be able to go to their client and say, hey, you are in real trouble here. >> and senator, justice alito is the latest supreme court justice trying to live like a billionaire. and apparently, violating disclosure rules in the process. >> yeah. you've got all of the basic food groups here. you have the right wing activist of billionaires who care about outcomes of the

court, you've got a federalist society justice, you've got wildly extravagant gifts, you've got untoward and probably illegal secrecy and for the cherry on top, you've got leonard leo billionaires court fixer, arranging the deal. you just can't make this up. >> senator sheldon whitehouse, thank you very much for joining us again tonight. our time has been cut short by this breaking news from jack smith. thank you very much for joining us. thank you. coming up, we will have more on the breaking news of the night. jack smith hinting over all of the grand jury testimony against donald trump to donald trump and his criminal defense lawyers. lawyers.

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news of the night, that special prosecutor jack smith has handed over to donald trump's criminal defense lawyers all of the grand jury testimony in the investigation. the names of all of the witnesses who testified, and the entirety of their testimony in transcript form. we now have the court filing made in court tonight by jack smith, it says that's included in what has been handed over to donald trump's lawyers, it includes documents obtained via subpoena.

evidence obtained via search warrant, trans groups of -- taken a -- grand jury testimony taken before a grand jury in the southern district of florida. as you know, most of the reinjury testimony was taken in washington d.c., but some was taken in florida. it also includes notes about witness interviews, conducted right up until may 12th of 2023, included in this document is the note that public statements made by donald trump are included in the discovery. the prosecutions evidence of this case. obviously, those include recent statements possibly that donald trump has made. also, on page three of this filing, it says the government will disclose any payments, promises of immunity, leniency, preferential treatment, or

other inducements made two perspective government witnesses. back with us is andrew weissmann. andrew, what do you make of it now that we can see the entirety in detail of what jack smith has handed over and what he plans to hand over very soon? >> a couple things. to be super in the weeds, one of the things that was notable was the government turned over the grand jury testimony, that codefendant mr. -- and his testimony was taken in june. june of 2022, and that's just a few days before the government issued a grand jury subpoena for video surveillance at mar-a-lago. so it's clear that the government was on to what was going on already. and there must be something

that they learned either from mr. notice grand jury testimony, or what his employee wanted to that lead them to want to get that video surveillance. but it's really interesting that mr. nauta was in the grand jury very early in this investigation. and i would assume that the charges with respect to lying are very much emanated from the kinds of things that he said in that grand jury testimony. he also was interviewed by the fbi separately, and those notes have been turned over and those are going to be part of the false statement case against him. the other thing, lawrence, which is really important for people to understand, is these kinds of witness interview notes by law do not have to be turned over by the government until the witness has testified at trial. i mean, just think of how late that is. these notes can be turned over during the trial. it's a practical matter, that a

federal prosecutor does that, because a judge is going to be curious if they have to delay a case. but the law does not require that this material be turned over sooner. to me what's happening here really signals that the government is ready, they have all of their ducks in a row, and they are not playing games. they are saying here is all of the information, because we're going to want to go to trial. >> andrew, if donald trump gives an interview next week, or the week before the trial, a tv interview, can the prosecution use that, even though it's not a part of the pre trial discovery evidence? >> yes. what the government would do is they would have to disclose to the defense that they intend to use it, and they would turn over a transcript or a video of that, or both. so you can't surprise the

defense with respect to that information. but the fact that you don't have it now is a really good reason for why you haven't turned it over. so that if donald trump continues to talk, he -- all of that information can be turned over subsequently, and the court is not going to say it's out of bounds, because the defendant want that to happen. he didn't have to speak. >> they make clear in this document that they're handing over complete copies of the closed circuit television footage obtained by the government. that's the security footage at mar-a-lago that shows the boxes being moved. they then go on to say, we're also pointing out highlights in that video footage. so you don't have to sit there and watch 24 hours of it, in the space where nothing is happening. they're being as helpful as they possibly can to donald trump's lawyers, which really reads in this document like a very powerful sign of

confidence. like, they are just saying here, look at all of this. look at every bit of it. this is the case against this defended. >> that is absolutely right. it is fairly standard in a case that involves really voluminous discovery. this is not such case, by the way. and ron, which i worked on, that's a case that involves voluminous discovery, we are talking about millions and millions of terabytes of data that are being given to the defense. so it is pretty common to try to give a bit of a roadmap to the defense to at least what you think is important and what you're going to use in your case. here, where there's a much more limited amount of discovery, what it signals to me is exactly what you said. that the government is trying to be as helpful as it can, because it had something in mind. which is a speedy trial. and that's the reason it's preparing these kinds of summaries, to try to help the defense isolate what is most important. to be fair to the defense, having been a defense lawyer,

you can't just take what the government says is key. you have to do your own investigation to decide whether that's really everything you want to look at. >> and enter, it seems to also be a message to judge cannon tonight. this prosecution is saying, not one minute of a delay in this case will be because of the prosecution. >> absolutely. i have been in that situation as well, where you want on your first day that you would show up in court, you want to be able to say to the judge, we have turned everything over. there is no gamesmanship here, there will be no delay, we are not dragging our feet. because you want to make sure that the judge gets that you are a professional, you are by the book, and in this case it is all about the clock. making sure that judge cannon knows that the government is going to be really on top of their game, and discovery, and the rules, to make sure that they can get a speedy trial as

possible, consistent with due process for the defendants. >> andrew weissmann, thank you very much for guiding us through this breaking news. really appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. and again, the breaking news is that special prosecutor jack smith has handed over to donald trump scribbled offense lawyers virtually all of the evidence against donald trump, including transcripts of all of the grand jury testimony against donald trump, which includes obviously the names of all of the witnesses who testified under oath in the grand jury against donald trump. donald trump will try to go to sleep tonight, finally now, knowing the name of everyone who has testified under oath against him in the grand jury in the federal criminal case against donald trump on espionage charges. coming up, can the senators in turn take over the senators job? our next guest is trying to do

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>> i know lisa, and she was an intern in our congressional office 1 million years ago. we love lisa. and that's what we'll do this morning. i said, you've been patient waiting for me to get out of the lane. and i'm going to get out of the way. and i hope you run, and i hope you let me support you in that. >> joining us now is democratic congressman lisa blunt rochester of delaware. she is now running for united states senate in delaware, in 2024. thank you very much for joining us tonight. you made the decision and announced it today. have you heard from senator carper yet? >> well, first of all lawrence, thank you for having me back on this exciting day. i have been fortunate to hear from senator carper. he put out an incredible statement and it's really hard

for me to believe. i was trying to do the math. my daughter is 35, and i had a son on the hip who's 37, and my daughter was in my belly at the time that i did that internship. and it's just hard to believe that it's been this many years. but that internship, that experience, along with serving in his cabinet and being his colleague, has propelled me to this place today. and so i am just excited that we have announced our candidacy for united states senate, and it has just been an incredible day. >> you know, delaware, as small as it is, gets some very important attention in washington these days. ron klain, president biden's first white house chief of staff tweeted, it was my great honor to get to know lisa blunt rochester when i served as white house chief of staff, because the president was always interested in her views on key issues. she will bring huge talent and determination to the senate.

sounds like you have friends in high places. >> well, you know, i have to say, it has truly been an honor. and, i think that part of it is how we operate in delaware, where we try to get multiple sides. as you may know, i am in our progressive caucus. i'm in the new dems, i'm in the women's caucus, i'm in the congressional black caucus, and was an assistant whip. and so i try to keep my finger on the pulse, but especially on the pulse of delaware. and so, it's been great to work with the administration as well as the president. >> what are you hoping to accomplish in the senate? >> you know, i have to tell you, listening to delawareans, i start with the things that we have been working on for the past six years. and that's everything from jobs and the economy, that focus, and our supply chains, to lowering the cost of prescription drugs for our seniors, to our work on the

environment. and health care. and so i hope you continue to do that work. but in the senate, i feel it's an opportunity to go deeper and for us to really have hopefully a greater impact, particularly as it pertains to our democracy. the ability to work on voting rights. secondly, our reproductive freedom. you know, the senate is where we confirm those supreme court justices and judges. and we know that they make a difference in what kind of freedoms we have as a country. and so, i want to be able to serve delaware and serve more. and i want to put in a little plug for anyone interested in getting involved or finding out more, which is at lisa blunt rochester.com. >> the -- delaware has a history of electing republican senators, electing democratic senators,

it's not a lock for senators -- is there something that you think you must now do in this campaign, in order to hold on to that seat for democrats? >> will you know, again, i want to keep doing what i've been doing. we have been able to work on things that affect all delawareans. i was the first person in our state to get on the egg committee in 120 years. and so we have farmers in the southern part of our state. i've been able to focus on environmental justice issues and we have places because for the lowest in elevation in the country. and so for me, i want to keep doing what we've been doing, because our focus and my focus has always been about bringing people together, which is why the theme of our campaign is bright hope. we want people to have a bright hope for our future. and so that's really the theme, and that's what i will continue to do. >> congresswoman lisa blunt rochester, who might be joining us on this program two years from now as senator rochester,

thank you very much for joining us tonight on this important night for you. thank you very much. >> thank you lawrence. thank you. >> thank you. to return to recap our breaking news up this hour, the discovery process in the criminal case against donald trump has begun. in the case of the united states of america versus donald j trump, there's a court filing tonight indicating that special prosecutor jack smith has hinted over to donald trump and his -- criminal defense lawyers, all of the grand jury testimony against donald trump in this case. that means donald trump tonight has the names of everyone who has, testified against him in the grand jury, that has led to his federal indictment on espionage charges. the documents produced by the jack smith filed in court indicates that public statements made by donald trump's are included in the

discovery evidence being handed over to donald trump's defense. so they can now see tonight which of those many things we have shown you that donald trump has said on television, the prosecution in this case considers incriminating or considers to be admissions of crimes. all of that is now in front of donald trump and his lawyers tonight. this will be the first night of donald trump's life where he tries to go to sleep, finally knowing the names of everyone who has already testified under oath against him. in jack smith's grand jury. that is tonight's last word, the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. th stephanie ruhle starts now tonight, house republicans vote to censor adam schiff. as john durham takes the hot seat in a gop led hearing. and new reporting on another controversy at the supreme