we'll be watching at 3:00, obviously, in miami and we saw some hints of criticism. chris christie we expected. nikki haley changing course a little bit. we'll see if she goes back. >> she didn't kick sideways, she kicked forward. >> the leadership and the house continues to stand by him. >> and that's the thing, we're early. everybody is saying take a deep breath. we have a long way to go. >> it is early. get a copy of the power code by caddie kay and claire shipman. >> yes. it is number one in amazon and women in business, so thank you for the conversation. i think it is the right moment. we think about power in a new way. >> yes, we are. that does it for us this morning. ana cabrera and jose diaz-balart pick up special coverage of today's arraignment of donald trump right now.

hello and thank you so much for joining us. it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera alongside my friend and colleague jose diaz-balart, reporting from miami today. and welcome to the start of a monumental day. in just a few hours, donald trump will become the first former president to ever enter a plea in a federal courthouse. a grand jury voted to indict the 45th commander in chief with 37 counts relating to his handling of classified documents at his alleged obstruction of justice. now, trump has repeatedly stated he plans to enter a not guilty plea. and he will be presumed innocent just like any other american citizen. this won't be like any other trial. >> no other trial. outside doral, trump supporters and protesters made their voices heard. and on the campaign trail, the current front-runner for the republican nomination is starting to take criticism from his own party. >> if this indictment is true, president trump was incredibly reckless with our national security.

>> how about blame him? he did it. >> so is trump's grip onslippin? and what are we going to see inside the courthouse? we have an all-star team of lawyers, reporters and political insiders to break it all down for us over the next couple of hours. >> let's dive right in with our teams here in miami, nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett, msnbc anchor yasmine vossoughian and nbc news correspondent dasha burns in doral, florida, where the former president is now. so, dasha, walk us through the timing of what we can expect to see today. >> here is what we expect again with the caveat that this is an unprecedented historic day. we expect to see the former president make his court appearance at 3:00 today, where he will be processed, which will include fingerprinting, pretrial conditions will be set, which could include the surrender of his passport.

and then he will be arraigned and he will make a plea. we expect him to plead not guilty. now, we do not expect to hear from the former president until he makes his way back to bedminster for the fund-raiser, but i will tell you, i'm going to be keeping a close eye on my email and truth social because we do expect as we have in the past when the president has been in legal trouble like that he will be making his voice heard via those avenues. we have already seen him start to fund-raise off of this. and we received emails, he's claiming this is election interference. and while you talk to any legal expert as you will shortly with my colleague laura jarrett, they'll tell you this is one of the more likely the most serious legal trouble that he has faced, but you look at it politically, the way that team trump is playing this is very similar to the way he has played every other hurdle he has faced. he is saying that this is a

system that is weaponized against him, but not just him, against those who support him and that is why his message is so powerful for the republican base and so difficult for his opponents who now have to walk this very fine line of how do you break from trump without offending or turning off so much of the republican base. so there is the legal aspect of what we're going to be watching today, but then of course the political aspect with a former president who was running for a third time to be in the white house yet again, guys. >> to yasmine outside the courthouse. >> i want to take a moment as you were mentioning coming to us the history in the making here happening, the first federal indictment for the former president of the united states. i think anybody who tells you they know what's going to happen from here on out is lying to you

in a way. i don't think any of us kind of really know what is going to happen between now and 2024, especially because he's running for re-election as president of the united states. i'll tell you 5 to 50,000. i'm seeing about 20 right about now. it is more of a circus than a protest. there are certain cordoned off areas over to the left of me for more permitted protests. in that area, though, we haven't seen anybody show up. we're getting reports of four bus loads being brought down from the orlando area to par take in some of those protests later on today. we have not seen any of that as of yet. so far, it is kind of the straggler protest we have seen at other events like this before, especially as we saw up in manhattan as well. i will say, the showing in manhattan, a cordoned off area in front of that courthouse and a much more robust showing than we're seeing right now. it is just early on in the day. let me give you a sense of what

is going to happen later on today. we don't necessarily know if the former president is actually going to be making an appearance and waving at the cameras as he did in manhattan today. i'm going to step out of frame for a moment. i want my photographer to push on the areas we're expecting he could be driving up. behind me, that there is the federal courthouse. that door right there, if we can push in on the door area, he could feasibly be walking in through that door. that is the only entrance into that building from outside. so potentially his motorcade could come up through the middle of these two federal building and walk in through that door to make his way up so where he will voluntarily surrender. there is another option as well for the former president, on the other side of this building, already the streets on the other side of this building have been closed off. the other option would be is if he were to go under ground and we're also hearing that is potentially the stronger option. the option he will likely take, but he had -- we know the former

president and how he makes decisions and at the last minute he could choose to come in through this way, to make a showing for his supporters and make his way to the courthouse. potentially we could not see him. he could make his way from doral, go right underground and go right into that courthouse. we're not going to know until 3:00 p.m. when he's arraigned and voluntarily surrenders. when it comes to those 5 to 50,000, i think the mayor essentially was saying, listen, we're ready for anything. we're looking at miami pd, miami-dade, u.s. marshals, dhs, secret service. all present here. i don't necessarily see -- excuse the noise going by because we do have a street right in front of us and there is more protesters showing up and supporters as well and loud music playing -- i don't necessarily see that presence on the ground. i imagine there are some plain clothes officers throughout the crowd here and throughout the media. a lot of media presence. but, again, there seems to be a major security presence. we don't necessarily see it. and i'm comparing that only to

what i saw in manhattan where there was a large security presence, which we saw with the naked eye. but wear going to keep our eye on that, going to keep our eye on the protests as well and see if they get started more and more throughout the okay and we'll be here all throughout the day watching the former president makes his way into the courthouse through the doors behind me or if he goes underground. >> south florida has been the site of so many events where security has been fundamental and important and downtown miami certainly no exception to that. so, talk to us about what typically happens at an arraignment, and, of course, the differences that are going to be happening today. what are you watching for today? >> so all along we have been told he's go to be treated, once he's actually in that courthouse behind us, as any other federal defendant would be treated, which is hard to imagine given that he is the former president of the united states. but once he's in custody behind

me, guys, he's expected to undergo fingerprinting, electronically. we're trying to get more information about whether in fact they will take a picture of him and a mug shot, even though it wouldn't be publicly released, we're trying to find out if that's one of the things he'll undergo as part of the processing, the paperwork we expect him to do before he actually goes into the courtroom for that first appearance. and most circumstances like this, someone would go in, with an attorney, they would be expected to enter a plea, the former president has expressed all along he did nothing wrong. we expect him to enter a plea of not guilty today. this is just the magistrate judge. this is not the judge that is actually going to oversee this trial. it should be pretty quick. though last time in manhattan it was anything but quick. but that was because they had a larger discussion about what the former president could and could not say and by using evidence at trial. that was all about that protective order that would eventually bar him from posting evidence on social media that had been given to him by the prosecutors in that case.

i don't expect the same discussion here today. this is not the judge that is actually going to oversee the trial. but we are learning more and trying to dig in terms of what is actually going to happen in terms of the processing. but in any event, we will not see it. that will all happen behind closed doors. federal court is notoriously tight. >> we're about five hours away still up until that arraignment, but we know a couple of trump's lawyers resigned just after this indictment was unsealed. "the washington post" had this headline today, trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance. that was just last night. what are we learning now about who is representing trump now, and what it might mean for his defense? >> this is interesting. given the gravity of what he's facing here, guys, you would imagine he would have a very robust legal team ready to hit

the ground running to defend this case. we know of two attorneys that are on this case. one is todd blanch, the former federal prosecutor, veteran of the federal system, he's actually representing him in the manhattan hush money case too. he's got his hands full. we were told by a source he flew down to miami with the former president yesterday. and then just minutes ago, we also received news that chris kise, a veteran florida litigator, formally joined the case. the docket shows his appearance entered there on the docket. the reason he needs this is because he needs a florida attorney that is licensed and barred here in the southern district of florida to actually enter a plea. if he decides to do that today, which we expect he might, kise is barred in the southern district of florida. that's one of the reasons why it makes sense he would be here today with him. it is interesting, though, because he had been somewhat jetsoned off the case. an early member of the team, and now we learned he is joining the

case once again, guys. >> laura jarrett, yasmin and dasha, thank you for being with us this morning. we're back in 60 seconds and we're going to talk about which count or counts should donald trump be most worried about. >> lawyers will look at that. plus, we'll talk to congressman adam schiff, a trump impeachment manager and former january 6th committee member an how trump's fund-raiing off this indictment with his eyes on 2024. with his eyes on 2024.

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this means. >> joining us now, palm beach county florida state attorney dave aaronburg, dick gregory and former u.s. attorney barbara mcquaid. >> so, the counts that have everyone talking about is the ones that fall under the espionage, which forbids retaining any document, i quote from it, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the united states or to take advantage of any foreign nation. so, are these the counts that the former president should be most concerned about? >> well, the obstruction is punishable by up to 20 years in prison. espionage is ten years in prison. he should be worried about the espionage. he violated two parts of the

act, the willful retention of the documents and showing it off to others, dissemination. it looks like he's guilty of both. the 31 counts of espionage, he should be worried. >> this indictment goes through a couple of scenes that struck me where trump may have shared classified information with unauthorized people, showing a classified military attack plan to an author and a couple of staffers in one setting. another instance where he allegely shows a classified map to a representative of his pac. and as we talk about the specific charges, seven different charges, 37 counts total, none of them as far as i'm understanding are with unlawful dissemination of that classified information. why do you think that is? >> well, i think this showing of the documents to the staffers, the publisher, even the representative of the political action committee might be difficult to prove if they don't have the document itself.

they might not be able to show the content of it to a jury. but i think the reason that that information is included in the indictment is because it shows his willful intent. he says in those conversations, i should have declassified this while i was president, but i didn't and i can't declassify it now. that is very important. it shows his willful violation of the law. not every mishandling of classified documents is a criminal violation. that's why when we had cases involving joe biden or hillary clinton or even bill clinton, those weren't examples of cases where someone criminally violated the espionage act. but when you willfully violate the act, i know what i'm doing is wrong and i'm doing it anyway, that is what constitutes a violation of the espionage act. that episode is very important to demonstrating that knowledge. >> and another key component of this, i think of every case, is the jury pool in florida. what is the process of jury pool selection look like here and

what should we be looking for? >> i think this case is probably going to be tried in palm beach county so that you -- you got to understand florida is a very divided state in terms of population. and i would say that if they're picking a jury from the palm beach county or the northern part of the southern district of florida, you will find it is a little bit different than picking a jury in miami. it is going to be interesting to see exactly how they handled this. this case is fascinating, it is full of classified information which requires that in order for there to be discovery, you'll notice it in the indictment, they don't have the entire document. they just have a very short summary. in a classified information act case like this, you have to have special procedures for under the cepa, classified information

procedures act. i haven't heard a lot of people talking about that. that's going to require that the judge place all of these documents in a secure location, that the defense attorneys be cleared to see these documents and maybe bring trump in himself to look at the documents if he chooses to do that. so this is going to slow the process a little. i think this is going to require some real negotiation and the jury is not going to get to see the documents themselves. i would very much doubt that they're going to see the classified documents. they're going to see a summary that is agreed upon by the defense and the government and the judge is going to have to rule on those. >> you say it could drag the trial and proceedings out further. we all as layman know that sometimes we watch what is happening, it takes months, it can be years in some cases. this is a case unlike any other we have covered. so what are you thinking in terms of timeline? >> it depends on the judge.

if the judge ordered that the defense counsel get clearance right away, and the court gets clearance right away, they can do that fairly quickly depending on how the national security people work on it. and then they have to all be assembled in a secure location and agreed to come there and review all of the documents and the court is going to have to set a very specific schedule and try to move it rather quickly. i think this case could be tried by november. that's my personal opinion, having done cases like this one. >> before the election. >> november 2023 would be very optimistic on my part. >> you're saying this year? >> i think it could be done that quickly. >> let's talk about palm beach, an area you know very well. let's talk about the jury selection and the process. would it be different than here in south florida or anywhere else in the country? >> first, there is no connection

between miami and the mar-a-lago documents. it is just that they're both in the southern district of florida. miami may have a better security apparatus. that's why they're having the arraignment down here. it was a long drive to get here today, jose. i'm from miami, i love the 312, but palm beach is different. it is a bluer place. it will be better for the government. 46% of dade county voted for trump. 43% in palm beach county. even though it is in his backyard, i think palm beach has a better track record of convicting officials for corruption. miami-dade county, not so much. >> we just reported, laura jarrett, the new lawyers representing trump at his proceedings today. he had a revolving door of lawyers over the past few years, the past few weeks and months. here are some of his most recent legal counsel he had on this

case and those recently terminated. i have to wonder how difficult would it be to represent a client like trump? >> i think it would be impossible. as alleged in this indictment, he lied to his own lawyers. you can't lie to your lawyer. if you are a lawyer, you need your client to come clean with you about everything so that they can represent you. it is the same kind of relationship with the doctor. if you conceal things with your doctor, they cannot diagnose your problem or treat it in the same way that if a client is lying to the lawyer it very difficult. it appears that donald trump misled his lawyers, lied to him in an effort to get him to falsely certify to the government that all the documents had been returned. for that reason, there are a lot of lawyers that would be reluctant to go down this road. i can imagine why many lawyers are reluctant to serve as donald trump's lawyer. but nonetheless, i'm sure there

is somebody out there who for the right price and the publicity is willing to serve as the lawyer. there is a great tradition of representing everyone in court. john adams represented the individuals who were involved in the boston massacre. so, everybody is entitled to representation and i imagine he will be able to find lawyers willing to serve, even if they find him to be repugnant. >> some of the key evidence in this case comes from a trump lawyer turned witness, a judge making way for this lawyer to testify for the grand jury and turn over his notes. how unusual is this and what do you see when you see that? >> the crime is really something that has come up a lot more recently in several cases and the 11th circuit has clearly ruled on it recently. i think this is a case where it isn't just that they were

talking about the conversations between the lawyer and the client, the client was actually misrepresenting what he wanted to do to the lawyer. and i think that puts it in a very different position. the lawyer essentially was lied to. he was -- he was told that there were no more documents to be turned over, when, in fact, trump was having them moved. so he is committing a crime in the conversations with his lawyer and that may be the key issue in whether there is a crime for the exception and i think that has been ruled upon in the d.c. courts. if that's been ruled on already by a court, then that's ruled of the case and i would be very much surprised if that would be an issue that could be litigated again now. it will be interesting to see how they approach it, but i would think that would be an issue that may not be raised on appeal until after a conviction. i'm not certain of that, but

would have to look at it. >> it is interesting given that this venue moved, right, from d.c. where they had a grand jury and they moved it to south florida and that's where he's been indicted now. and so, given that change, does it change perhaps the possibility, open the possibility for trump's team to try to prevent his lawyers' testimony and other evidence provided by his lawyer from being admissible in this trial? >> i will bet that trump's legal team will go to judge canon and ask her to revisit the decision made in a different court that says that corcoran's notes are fair game. and they then will appeal it because it goes into trump's strategy of delay, delay, delay. i don't think they're going to win it. trump tried to use corcoran to facilitate a crime, obstruction. trump could win by delaying the

matters further. >> the judge, i think it is important that today she's not presiding. >> correct. >> why? >> well, today a judge magistrate who handles arraignments. it is a judge magistrate in miami, judge john goodman. it is going to get to judge canon, why i think that this case is going to get moved up to my neck of the woods and palm beach county or fort pierce because that's closer to judge canon, closer to the defendant, donald trump, and i think that's where it is headed. even in palm beach county, 44% of the public voted for donald trump. that means five jurors will probably be trump supporters. >> dave, dick and barbara, thank you all so much for that great discussion. up next, how state, local and federal law enforcement are preparing for today's arraignment. and the potential threats they're working to sniff out. >> you're watching special breaking news coverage of donald trump's arraignment only on msnbc. f donald trump's arraignment only on msnbc. keep it real

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right to downtown miami with a live look at the federal courthouse in miami where donald trump is expected to report in a couple of hours for his arraignment. >> miami police say they're ready for everything, small crowds to massive protests. yasmin vossoughian is back with us and also rob demiko, who worked in the miami field office. so, let me start back with you, yasmin. we checked in half an hour ago and people were starting to arrive. we're seeing a police presence in some of our camera shots. set the scene for us there this morning. >> one of the shots you showed initially as we were coming back from break was this formation of the police cars in front of the courthouse where the former president will be entering and

sur rending a few hours from now. we're seeing more and more of that. on the other side of where i'm standing is a road closure and where we expect the motorcade of the former president to be arriving. we know they have been doing practice runs there and got footage of 50 or so officers on motorcycles kind of preparing security on that side, so our expectation is he's going to be arriving on that side of the building, going underground, you see the footage there, bicycles, not on motorcycles. he'll be arriving on that side of building and coming through the center in which he'll go through the front door though there will be a lot of exposure for him there. and or going the underground way and making his way up to the courtroom. when it comes to the people that are here, if you would pan over my left shoulder, i want to show folks what we have been seeing all morning. this is really a true representation of what is happening, it is a little bit of a circus. a lot of folks that are kind of

dressed up in various costumes. you got former donald trump impersonators, a guy there with a lock him up sign. a lot of folks being interviewed by the press as well. more and more folks are beginning to show up. we're not seeing the presence that we saw in manhattan, which i have to say is surprising. this is a state the former president won in the election. we expected to see more donald trump supporters. we're hearing of a motorcade of four buses coming from orlando to this area that would be protesting in an area that has been cordoned off for them, though right now that area is still empty. we're looking at a huge police presence here, miami pd, dade, u.s. marshals, dhs, secret service. really this is history in the making. but, again, as the minutes tick

by, more and more supporters and protesters together are beginning to show up here and, of course, the press presence, you can't not talk about that because of the historic nature of today is growing by the minute as well. everyone wanting to document the former president of the united states being indicted for the very first time at a federal courthouse here in downtown miami. >> yeah, yasmin, talk about people in costumes and impersonators, sounds like an everyday downtown miami event. but it is so different today as you say. just the preparations that folks have taken and i'm just thinking, officials have talked about possible traffic jams, said they're ready but haven't given much detail. and reporting of pro trump rallies happening and people oftentimes live on miami time, which is different than real

time. but what do you think people and officials have been doing to prepare for this? >> since it was announced, they have been doing nothing but planning. so, the biggest thing is it is a one of a kind event, but it is not. the president goes to plenty of places that -- super bowls and all these other things and we had super bowls here, so all the different agencies are used to working together. the planning for it. the biggest thing secret service has president trump. i'm sure he's going to get out in the underground garage. take that out of it. the courthouse, by u.s. marshals. they run strict courthouses to begin with. there is nothing new there. it is outside. so, the city of miami planning with all the different agencies. so you have the tactical side, everyone is on the ground and moving and the costume people -- it throws something that you're look at that you -- should you be paying attention to it or not? where is the real threat coming from? i'm sure they have pictures of people online who have been

doing things and those pictures are out. who are the real troublemakers, looking for them. they may have cameras out there. they may be able to do facial recognition to say hey, this is someone who made a threat. then you have the fbi doing -- looking at the online stuff and putting it into the mayor of miami and the chief of police where they will be at a command post looking at this information flow in from the other agencies. is there a threat out there? are we seeing something and getting the feedback from the guys on the ground saying, hey, we're starting to seeing some a little bit different here, and the big thing is we have things to learn from. every time something happens for the first time, you start learning. 9/11, we looked at a whole bunch of things and changed things. january 6th, where were the threats coming from we may not have seen so we can look at it later and say this is something that came out to be true it came from this stream so we can look at it better and say this is where we didn't pick up on it before and we need to pay

attention now. >> we're getting new report about the process today and there were questions if trump would have his picture taken today, the so-called mug shot. sounds like that's not going to happen. they're planning to upload a photo of trump into their internal booking system. so no mug shot. does that surprise you at all? >> no, those are for -- the i.d. to people and the fingerprints. if you already have them and he's a known person, there is not a need to go through that. it might help the process go quicker. >> back to the security aspect here, "the washington post" reported they basically miami officials barred local police officers from taking today off, they asked people who are typically plain clothes detectives to wear police uniforms, jose mentioned how florida's no stranger to big security events, right? there was the miami heat taking on the denver nuggets in game three a couple of nights ago. today is different, isn't it?

>> it is. so miami wants that presence. one, you have everyone dressed and you look at it, it is an overwhelming force. it may take some of the crowd where people get caught up in the crowd and say, i'm not going to do that. i think january 6th is one thing, there has been a thousand people prosecuted, i don't want to go down that road. but there is probably others out there looking to rile that up. those are the ones that will be looking out for. i'm sure there is nonuniformed people out there too looking. >> yasmin and rob, thank you very much for being with us this morning. >> great to have both of you here. the national security fallout surrounding the sensitive documents boxed up in the bathroom of mar-a-lago as well as other places like we showed the ballroom there and a stage. so many places. president trump's bedroom, office, the storage room. we'll speak with the congressman adam schiff, a former chair of the intelligence committee who

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to identify what sources may have been put at risk, who might have had access. that's a tough question to answer given they were in all these public places in this club that was visited by thousands and thousands of people. so they will probably indulge a worst case scenario and say these were compromised, we need to get people out or change technical sources of collection to mitigate the risk. but also i want to call out a separate national security risk, and that is with all of these republican presidential hopefuls attacking the justice department, calling this illegitimate, even those who are criticizing the president, still criticizing the department, anyone who reads that indictment sees how necessary it was to bring these charges. anyone else who engaged in the kind of conduct that donald trump did, the premeditated withholding of the documents, the deception, all of the

premeditation would have to be indicted and by suggesting otherwise, the kevin mccarthys, jim jordans, presidential hopefuls, are breeding discredit about the justice department disbelief and distrust of it which means that fbi agents in the future are going to have a harder time getting cooperating witnesses, juries are going to be more suspicious, and that, too, is a danger to our national security. >> and, congressman, that is something that has been part of the national discourse. maybe not on a broad level, but for some time now. i think that you're absolutely right. that is something we have to talk about and to see what damage that is producing on the pillars of american democracy. i want to bring you back to the documents that were taken from mar-a-lago. the intelligence agency community has said it is conducting an assessment to see how much damage may have been caused by trump's mishandling of

classified information. it has been 11 months, ten months since the assessment was announced. are you surprised we haven't heard of the results yet? >> i'm not surprised. i would imagine that the public may not get a disclosure of the damage assessment. the intelligence committees i would expect to get that kind of assessment. i also imagine that, you know, they have gone through the video footage to try to see who had access, they tried to interview some of the people. but at the end of the day there are profound questions that they won't be able to answer if certain materials got into the wrong hands. they have to act as if they did. they may have unresolved questions about whether they even now have the whole universe of documents or whether others were pilfered or destroyed or made it into the wrong hands. >> coming back to what you were saying, regarding the questions around the justice department,

and that have been raised unfairly perhaps obviously, one of the claims we just keep hearing from trump and his supporters is that this is a political hit, that biden is using the doj to go after his political opponent, when, in fact, merrick garland turned the case over to special counsel it was a grand jury in florida that voted to indict him there is separation, there is independence here. if you're the prosecutor, how do you address the politics for the jury? >> well, i think what the special counsel is doing is exactly right, which is largely not speaking publicly, letting the indictment set out the facts, letting the lawyers or the prosecutors during the trial make the case and keeping it very straight that these are the charges, this is the proof, these are the elements of the offense, not getting into the politics of it. donald trump and his enablers in congress are going to be doing all the politicking, the prosecutors are doing the prosecuting. but i do think notwithstanding that i expect jack smith to do a

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capitalize on this since thursday night when he put out on truth social that he had been indicted. they followed this playbook months ago when he was indicted in new york. you see them trying to do that now. we don't have reporting at this hour of how much money the trump campaign has raised since the news of the indictment broke thursday night but clearly they are trying to use this as an organizing force to bring his supporters together and raise money from them and solidify his lead early on in the race for the republican nomination. >> it's interesting how other republican leaders are reacting to the indictment, lawmakers in congress and other 2024 candidates. take a listen to this.

>> the biden administration continues to egregiously weapon eyes the federal government against joe biden's top political opponent. >> is justice being looked at fairly. >> jake, they continue to walk the line behind trump, right? is there anything that you would cause house republicans to break with him? >> after january 6th and all the other incidents that have involved donald trump, it doesn't seem like it, right? this is a group of people that believed they -- especially in the house of representatives that they owe their political currency to trump so it's unlikely, to me at least, they will break from him. kevin mccarthy said yesterday, joe biden kept documents in his

garage that could be opened up all the time, and donald trump kept them in a bathroom with a lock. it will be interesting to see what the senate minority whip will say, and i think the senate will be more skeptical. you are hearing this two-standards of justice line from republicans across the board from the house and the senate, and they are not focusing on the fact he had military secrets stashed in his ballroom and bedroom at his golf resort in florida, and they are focusing other people have not been indicted for lesser and far less egregious instances. >> thank you so much for joining us. really appreciate your reporting and your insights. we will have much more of our

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