end our system of elections. there's so much that has gone on in the last seven years and especially the last couple years we're at risk of thinking this is somehow normal, especially young people. it certainly is not. >> that's why you have to come back often, michael beschloss, to remind us, this is not normal. thank you for being with us today. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember, follow us online, on facebook and twitter. @mitchellreports. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc h. formal charges and a first-of-its-kind political fund-raiser all in one day. that's what's away waiting former president donald trump tomorrow in florida. he's lashing out at joe biden and his family, vowing to assign

his own special prosecutor to, quote, go after the president. he's got a scorched earth political strategy. do his lawyers have a legal strategy equal to special prosecutor jack smith's case. shoved out of the headlines by trump's indictment and impending trial, so how do they regain the political spotlight? the commuting nightmare for those in and around philadelphia, forced to find a new way to work after part of a major interstate collapses. the effort to fix it as officials say it could be out of commission for months. we begin with those new details about how former president donald trump plans to fight 37 first-of-their-kind criminal charges both in court and in public. he's flying to south florida at this hour for tomorrow's arraignment. where we'll see the case begin to play out in realtime. first, with that arraignment in miami, followed just a few hours

later by trump's first major fund-raiser of the 2024 campaign. the public response has been typical trump, slamming the special counsel, describing the case in apocalyptic terms. his legal team faces a daunting challenge, fighting a detailed indictment in which trump's own words are being used as evidence, based around his alleged attempts to mislead the doj and hold on to classified documents. here is how trump's former attorney general bill barr framed it on fox news. >> this entire thing came about because of reckless conduct of the president. if he had just turned over the documents, which i think every other person in the country would have done -- they're the government's documents, not his personal records. battle plans for an attack on another country or defense department documents about our capabilities are in no universe donald j. trump's personal

documents. if even half of it is true, then he's toast. it's a pretty -- very detailed indictment and it's very, very damning. i want to bring in nbc's garrett haake in miami. devlin barrett is national security reporter for "the washington post," and paul butler is a former federal prosecutor, georgetown law professor and an msnbc legal analyst. paul, is the real challenge for trump's team not to explain why he took the documents but why he didn't give them back? >> that's right, and that's really the difference between trump and people like pence and clinton. they cooperated according to the special counsel trump covered up, he obstructed justice, and that's why he's facing these very serious espionage charges. he's trying to make it sound like espionage means he spied. espionage act under this context

means he held on to the documents, that he knew didn't belong to them, that if they got into the hands of the wrong person, could undermine national security. >> so devlin, we're hearing from a lot of trump defenders hearing there's a legal double standard at play. i want to play some of that from over the weekend. >> most republicans believe we live in a country where hillary clinton did very similar things and nothing happened to her. >> joe biden wants to give donald trump a death sentence for documents. he's facing hundreds of years for mishandling documents, and they want him to die in jail. yet hillary clinton is standing free today. >> when you have two people who do the same thing and one has the standard that i've talked about, but the only one that gets indicted is the republican, the only one that gets indicted is the one who was actually president who did it the right way, oh, my goodness. >> devlin, you wrote an entire article about this, why trump

got charged when clinton didn't. can prosecutors convince jurors there's a difference? can they help jurors to understand why this case rises to the level it's gotten to? >> that's the big difference between the legal system and the political system. the political system is a lot of people talking often not based on fact. the legal system, the court system is based on presenting the facts as they have been shown to a jury. a jury is going to have to make decisions about those facts. that isn't necessarily going to convince the political world, but it matters a great deal this that courtroom. >> let's talk about the political world, garrett. tell me what's going on behind closed doors in miami today, the trump strategy how they're handling this is very obvious. what's their long-term goal here? what are we going to continue to hear not just from donald trump but from others?

>> reporter: the good news about the trump strategy is it's usually right out there in the open. chris, it frankly doesn't always include a long-term goal. in the short term, the strategy has been quite clear. they're on the attack against the special counsel, president biden, the president's legal enemies trying to make them into his political enemies. that truth social post you mentioned in which he vows to create his own special counsel to go after joe biden who he calls the most corrupt president in history is all part of a political strategy to kind of turn this on its head and force republican voters and republican candidates to choose sides. the way the trump team framed the issue is you're either with donald trump against a doj that most republicans don't like and already think is biased as lindsey graham said in that clip, or you're with these liberal prosecutors. that's what worked for them in new york and they think will work here as well. around new york they raised about $12 million off that

indictment and arraignment and television coverage that followed. they're trying to operate from a similar playbook and jamming his republican rivals into back him up or at least back off of him while he deals with these legal issues. the polling so far indicates that it's working. he's got a commanding lead in basically every national poll i've seen. >> and two new ones for sure. when you talk about this juxtaposition, paul, of legal versus political, i want to play for you something that one of trump's lawyers had to say. >> what i can tell you is he has every right to have classified documents that he declassifies under the presidential records act. they're making it sound like a five-alarm fire. it's not. it's a very simple thing that everybody -- and we've seen numerous people able to take it. frankly, he was the only one that could take classified documents that he declassified under the presidential records act. people forget that. >> is that something, paul, you could expect to hear at trial?

>> i hope not because it would almost be malpractice. the presidential records act is not anything that donald trump is charged with. he's charged with very serious federal felonies. for all those scandalous charges in the indictment, the problem for donald trump is that jack smith has receipts. he's got dozens of those documents pertaining to national security. he's got photos. he's got audio and video tape. he's got text messages. chris, what's probably most worrisome for donald trump is that the special counsel also has a lot of evidence that we don't yet know about. you can be sure he's saving some of the most incriminating evidence against donald trump for the trial. >> i know you talk to a lot of people, devlin. is there something that in the conversations you've had over the weekend, that either national security officials or other people on the periphery of it are wondering whether that will come out at trial, or is

there something that a lot of people seem to agree on, who you're talking to, that they think is the strongest part of the case as written in the indictment? >> i think there's a few things. one, they have trump on tape talking about his understanding of what classified information is. obviously that's pretty good evidence. two, they have video of boxes being moved. they can track the movements of a lot of this material in realtime as the government is trying to recover it. that's very important evidence. three, if you look at the way they've structured this indictment, i think it's really worth underlining here. he was not charged for any of the documents that he gave back to the archives. that's 197 documents he was not charged with. he was charged with the documents that he kept or that he had -- had to be pride out of him through the subpoena. those documents he was charged with. it's not so much about the taking. it's about the keeping and the

hiding. they have a lot of evidence they say of that keeping and hiding. >> garrett, in about an hour we're expecting a press conference in miami to talk about security, security around a high-profile defendant is nothing new. there is no high-profile defendant quite like donald trump. what are we looking for there? >> reporter: well, i expect we'll hear a lot about the local and federal security agencies, law enforcement agencies working hand in glove to secure this courthouse. chris, there are few locations in the country more secure than these courthouses. they've had cocaine kingpins put on trial here. they know how to handle security between the miami pd and u.s. marshals. they'll have the u.s. secret service who handles this federal defendant added into the mix as well. i expect we'll hear broad outlines from the miami mayor.

but most of the security work will go on behind closed doors, won't be what we see out here on the streets. >> paul, let me ask you about someone who will not be tomorrow. that is judge aileen cannon, she is not handling the court appearance tomorrow. although she is still expected to be the judge of record at trial. given what has happened in the past -- and feel free to expand on that -- do you think there's any chance she recuses herself? >> i doubt it. the law in the jurisdiction is that judges should recuse themselves if their presence in a case will undermine public confidence. this is a classic example. at this point the decision will be up to judge cannon. it's true she's already been reversed twice for illegal rulings that favored donald trump, but that doesn't formally require her to step down from the case under the law. >> paul butler, garrett haake,

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jersey residence. matthew dowd is msnbc's senior political analyst and chief strategist for the bush/cheney presidential campaign, which seems like it was another world ago. thank you, guys, for being with us. is donald trump or his team making a list and checking it twice to see how his rivals are responding? >> reporter: yes, chris. donald trump, it's very clear as has been the case over the last few years, which republicans standing by him and defending him during the investigations. a good example of this is his former attorney general, bill barr who went on television yesterday and suggested that the case presented by the department of justice, by the special counsel was sealed tight and that donald trump was in hurt -- in his own words, if half of what was laid out by the special counsel was true. what you saw was donald trump just a few hours ago put out in

a social media post that, quote, barr is doing it because he hates trump for firing him, he called him a gutless pig. steve bannon on his radio program called bill barr treasonous and said he should be found guilty of treason, echoed by the likes of rudy giuliani who was also on the airwaves this morning echoing this, not on the basis of the facts presented by the special counsel, chris, but more so in the comparison to the what aboutisms. not only the likes of rudy giuliani and steve bannon who are questioning bill barr, but also donald trump suggesting that bill bar when he was in his role as attorney general didn't do his job because he didn't prosecute the likes of joe biden and the family. that is where you saw just two hours ago donald trump put out in another post that, if he were to get back into the white house, he'd appoint a special prosecutor to go after joe biden and the biden family. again, it's no longer on the basis of the facts laid out by

the department of justice, but more so of the comparison as to why the clintons were not prosecuted, why the biden family was not prosecuted. >> matthew, trump is vowing to stay in the race even if he's convicted. yesterday senator lindsey graham said this. >> i think donald trump is stronger today politically than he was before. most republicans believe that the law now is a political tool. >> some early polls taken right afterwards, cbs, nbc, both indicate he's doing great, honestly, pretty much the same he was after the first indictment. do you agree this makes trump only stronger? if so, what do you do if you're running against him? >> well, i agree in part. i think it solidifies the base of support he has which is probably about 40% or 50%, somewhere in there. i don't think it increases his support, and i think makes people wavering on donald trump

even waiver some more. it does solidify. and that actually, in a republican primary, when you solidify that level of support in a multi-candidate field where there's nine or ten candidates, puts him in a stronger position than he was before that. i think they have to make a decision. what's interesting to me is all these candidates are running against donald trump. they're obviously underlying that is an assumption they don't want donald trump to be president. at some point more than asa hutchinson and chris christie have to say that. if you're running against donald trump and unwilling to prosecute an argument of why he shouldn't be president, then why are you running? >> at this weekend's north carolina republican convention, the three leading contenders, trump, desantis and pence -- maybe we can eliminate the former president. but they universally slammed the indictment. in fact, desantis made a comment that you might mistake as a dig

at trump except he was talking about hillary clinton. take a liss zblen gee, as a naval officer, if i had taken classified to my apartment, i would have been court-martialled in a new york minute. >> is that the example for trump's competition, you're going to spend the upcoming months defending the guy you're running against? >> that's the probably they have is. they want to stay friendly with donald trump but want to beat donald trump. think about that dynamic, they want to stay friendly with donald trump but they want drum to lose. they understand, i think they understand that donald trump is very popular, more popular than he was when he won the nomination in 2016 today. their problem is they want somebody else to do the dirty work. that's what i actually think their campaign is premised on. they want donald trump to be not only indicted but then convicted and then be put in position where someone else beats them

and they're there to pick up the scraps afterwards. it's not going to work in a political campaign. as i said, you have to prosecute the argument and you have to tell the republican primary voters why shouldn't donald trump be the nominee and why should they? for some reason, they think somebody else is going to do the work for them, much like many of the candidates in 2016 thought. and we know how that turned out. >> not very well for them. on the other side, let me ask you about president biden. he's avoided commenting on the case. can he continue to do that? and is it just through the primary process unless there's another indictment or if trump wins the nomination and becomes his direct opponent? >> as a strategist from previous campaigns, i would say the smart move is not say anything about it. let the court cases and the documents and others make the argument and let the trial go forward and let it happen. when donald trump becomes -- if he becomes the republican nominee, which are that he will,

at that point you then prosecute the case of why donald trump, using this as an example, is not fit to be president of the united states and can't be trusted with the national secrets and the national security of the united states of america. but for now, i think joe biden has about a year, maybe 11 months where he doesn't have to comment on this. >> i would not expect him to. time will tell. vaughn hillyard, matthew dowd, good to see you. thank you so much. coming up, a vital east coast highway shut down by a fiery collapse. we're live in philadelphia where the impact on i-95 could create a driving nightmare for many months. plus, a fairytale evening ending in tragedy when a bus carrying wedding guests overturns. what we're learning about this deadly crash next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. is jansig reports" only on msnbc for their sleep apnea. but stephanie got inspire, an implanted device that works inside the body. there's no reason to keep struggling.

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pennsylvania's governor has just signed a disaster declaration as the state tackles a new commuting nightmare with no end in sight. this workweek got started with massive crowds looking to avoid traffic causing major train delays and, as expected, the bumper-to-bumper traffic was brutal after that massive chunk of the east coast main highway collapsed in a raging fire yesterday. both ends of interstate 95 are now shut off for what is expected to be some number of months.

officials say a tanker truck loaded with 8,000 gallons of gasoline erupted in flames beneath an overpass weakening the steel beams holding the interstate up and then they buckled. nbc's george solis is live from philadelphia. what a nightmare, george. more than 160,000 vehicles use just that stretch of i-95 every day. obviously this is a critical overpass near philly. so what's happening behind you and what's the outlook there? >> reporter: chris, good afternoon. it's a mess indeed. the investigation still in full swing. pennsylvania state police say they're looking at this as a crash investigation. we now know that the southbound lanes, the ones you're seeing behind me are all charred are also going to have to be demolished because of the intensity of the heat and the flames. officials con firping this was a tanker carrying an unknown grade of gasoline that exploded underneath the overpass. at this point they're not

identifying the driver or the company they work for. although there are rumblings that person may have been identified. we're working to independently verify that. as you mentioned, with this being demolished this is creating a bigger traffic headache. 160,000 people rely on this stretch of 95, for people coming from florida all the way to maine. transportation secretary pete buttigieg said of course they're going to make federal funds available. that disaster declaration signed by josh shapiro also crucial to expedite the federal funds here to rebuild this important piece of infrastructure here. right now there's heavy machinery. still cleaning out the 500 tons of debris. now they'll be more as the demolition begins. expected to take the next five days if not a week as that process gets under way. >> nbc's george solis, thank you for that. in australia a bus driver has been charged with ten counts

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as if they needed more to disagree about, jake sherman, what's happening on the hill in the wake of what we found out on friday? >> well, people, as you indicated, are taking positions that we expected them to take. kevin mccarthy, the house speaker moments ago, 30, 40 minutes ago said joe biden had documents in his garage which opens and closes, and donald trump had them in a bathroom which locks, which i guess is one way to view the situation. listen, i think the reaction is going to be relatively familiar here. we all know what's going to happen. republicans on capitol hill, many of them feel, whether right or wrong, that they owe their political career to donald trump. i'm not sure that many of them do, but that's what they think. they're going to defend them. i think the interesting thing will be how much do senate republicans step out of that line? i think we'll see the senate come back in at 5:30 this evening and perhaps we'll see a little more skepticism from

senate republicans compared to house republicans. >> what does that skepticism look like? i know you guys will do your jobs and ask the questions. how do they respond? what does that mean? >> a skeptical response would be something like he shouldn't have had classified documents, told his lawyers to deny that they existed, and that's inappropriate. by the way, chris, these are people who deal with classified documents all the time. they understand that they should not be brought outside of the building, just human nature would dictate that you don't tell your lawyer to mislead people, mislead federal prosecutors and federal agents about the existence or the possession of these documents. so we'll be looking out for anything that strays outside of that very tightly rehearsed line that donald trump once again in the face of another indictment and in the face of accusations has done nothing wrong, which is what republicans typically say. >> governor, they don't want

their names used. one senate republican aide told "the hill" the indictment is pretty damning. a former senate gop aide called jack smith very credible, adding there is the reflection that he may have found finally the silver bullet. for whatever some members may quietly believe on the senate side, do you agree this could, in fact, be a silver bullet? if you listen to house republicans, it's quite the opposite. >> i'm not sure about that. i think, is this the straw that breaks the camel's back? i'm not sure. look, you've got to remember, politicians are not leading indicators. they follow the public. if you look at the polls right now, the republican party, they overwhelmingly think that trump has been targeted. what they argue is why didn't they do something about hillary's email? what are they doing about joe biden? what are they doing about hunter biden? there are a lot of republicans that believe this is targeted

and, therefore, that takes some credibility away from the case that jack smith has brought. is that going to change? i don't know. what i will tell you, chris, and i think i said on your show, the gentleman i spoke to, and i said is there anything donald trump could do that would lose your support, and he said no because there's nothing that i'm going to hear in the media or wherever that i'll believe. i know what i believe. a friend of mine today i was talking said, look, if i walk two or three blocks down the street to a guy repairing cars, he doesn't care what "the new york times" thinks or the "wall street journal" or anybody else. he has his view. the more the elites attack trump, the more he likes trump. that's kind of what we're dealing with. the question gets to be what do we as a country do to get people out of their silos. if we understand why some of these people still defend him and we have a better chance of being able to decode what the

message is, to have a message that's more effective in terms of what trump has done and why it matters and why it's important and why he should not be president. but to just snicker -- >> do you understand -- >> a lot of these people, a lot of people feel they've been ripped off. it's the hard core trump base. they feel as though they've been ripped off in their lives, that no one ever spoke up for him. as crude as his language is, they think even though he's really rich, he created the image of himself doing these television shows, they feel he's out there fighting the elites, fighting the people that have never given them the time of day. that's part of it. the other part of it is the people that may not feel as bitter about what's happening in their lives but people who think, frankly, there hasn't been fair justice applied here. that's why we're seeing these numbers. can these numbers change? maybe over time. but that's kind of what we're

dealing with here, chris. once you understand it, you're in a better position to be able to communicate and open their minds. if we're here and saying they really just don't get it and they're crazy, we don't listen to them, then there isn't a way to have a message to them that they might hear that would return us to some degree of normal see which we do not have in this country at this point oochs. >> jake, look, the indictment hasn't threatened trump support anecdotally. i talk to people, you talk to people, the governor has talked to people. they say the same thing, there's nothing that's going to change my mind about this. two new polls "today" show it. listen to what donald trump said over the weekend. >> they come to me, how do you stand this? i usually look at them and say, in a sick way i sort of enjoy it because it exposes them, it exposes them for what they are,

and it's also lifted the poll numbers to even higher legs. >> he's got the poll numbers. he claims record-breaking fund-raising in the wake of this. so if trump's status with the base of the party remains high, let me go back to what's going to happen at 5:00 this afternoon when the senate arrives. can republican leaders there or republicans generally continue to remain silent on this issue that's so important to the base? >> yes, they can. here's the thing, though. i actually think we tend -- we meaning the broad media landscape and reporters tend to overestimate how much it matters what members of congress say when it comes to a politician -- >> isn't that the truth. >> i think it doesn't make a bit of a difference. with all due respect to the people i cover every day, it doesn't make a ton of difference what a politician says. the basic facts are this, chris,

it's not good to be indicted. the indictment was obviously damning. trump has a case in georgia, he has a case in new york. he's got another federal case. none of those things are good. when you're looking to elect somebody to lead the counted, you would prefer, i would imagine, that this person doesn't have -- isn't indicted and has all these legal problems. i don't have a crystal ball. i don't think it matters. again, i don't think it matters a ton what elected officials say about trump. >> your laughter to the statement that it doesn't matter, governor, reminds me of an old show that we're old enough to remember called "this is your life." only this time it's "this was your life." governor kasich, having said that -- >> chris, trump has created alice in wonderland. down is up and up is down. at some point we've got to get people out of these silos, including those on the left,

people on the ride, because the country doesn't function very well when we fly on one wing. so understanding where these people are but at the same time bringing logic and facts -- this guy has got national security boxes, he's talking to people about it. come on! in the old days i think jake would agree, in the old days, if you did anything that even smelled of corruption, you were cut out. things have changed today, chris, at least in regard to donald trump. this has a lot of serious implications for where we go forward. i'll predict that at some point people of this country will realize we're better off together than we are apart. better off coming out of our silos than staying in them. what it's going to take to get people out, i don't know. it's probably going to take some sort of black swan event that we don't even anticipate that can restore, again, a degree of normalcy. >> let's hope it doesn't take that. governor case sick, always good

to see you. jake sherman, appreciate it so much. hopes for scottish independence from the uk could be set back significantly after a shocking arrest. the former leader of the scottish nationalist party, nicola sturgeon is facing financial misconduct charges. she had been one of the most prominent politicians until she resigned a few months ago. the latest high-profile party member arrested that funds raised for scottish independence were diverted elsewhere. still ahead, secretly listening for years. what we're learning about the spy base in cuba that helped china eavesdrop in the u.s. >> another american detained in russia accused of selling drugs. how will the u.s. respond while the fate of other prisoners remains up in the air. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you' wreatching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc

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base is on the agenda? >> if only we knew exactly what was on the agenda right now, chris. you can assume a number of things including this base will be among the things that he speaks with his counterpart in this upcoming visit. now, what we learned about this story, last week after the "wall street journal" first put out the story that china was in the final stages of discussions with cuba about some sort of an eavesdropping location on cuba, the white house, the pentagon, others in the biden administration all called the story inaccurate. what we learned over the weekend, chris, was in fact china does have one of these listening posts in cuba and has had it there for years. in fact, in 2019 according to an administration official they even upgraded it in some way. so it is certainly the fact, according to these officials, that china is using that as a location to gather, whether it's sensory information, communications, listening to cell phones. it's not lost on, i'm sure, our viewers that in florida,

particularly south florida, there's a major u.s. combatant command, u.s. central command and u.s. special operations command in tampa in florida. there's a lot of opportunity there depending on how advanced china's equipment is to gather on sensitive military sites. we heard from the first time today since this acknowledgment over the weekend that china is spying from cuba on the u.s. we heard from an administration official about it. secretary of state antony blinken spoke about it just this morning, chris. >> the strategy begins with diplomacy. we've engaged governments that are considering hosting prc bases at high levels. we have exchanged information with them. our efforts have slowed down this effort by the prc. something we're closely monitoring, and as i said, taking steps to counter. >> but it's not really clear exactly what slow down their efforts means in this context,

chris. >> that's a very diplomatic response, what you would expect from the secretary, but behind the scenes, what are they saying? >> exactly. the reality is even though they believe that they have made -- after the president biden was briefed on this and his team, soon after he came into office january of 2021, they put something into motion, plans in place they say has made an impact on china's ability to continue to grow out this capability in cuba. we don't exactly know what that looks like. that being said, officials still are concerned about china's ability to eavesdrop on the u.s. from there. but we also have to point out china has a lot of eavesdropping capabilities, as do other people, things like the spy balloon we saw earlier in year, satellites, it's not the only way china would be able to spy on the u.s., chris. >> nbc's courtney kube, thank you for that. silvio died in milan at the

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horrible. >> reporter: but the backlash didn't last, new data from the analytics company antenna shows netflix added a stream of new accounts after it shut down sharing, even posting its four highest days of new subscriber editions in the 4 1/2 years since the data has been tracked. industry insiders say that's good news for netflix, which took a major gamble by limiting access. what this ultimately means for streaming fans is still unclear. >> this the stressful. >> while many believe netflix's recent subscriber boost will encourage others like hulu, prime video, and nbc universal owned peacock to put a stop to sharing, others say it might be an opportunity for platforms to cash in on a top competitor. >> the streamers, the prices are going lower and lower to compete with netflix, and someone is going to say i can get disney plus for this amount and netflix for that amount. >> which means now may be the

best time to shop around and see what best meets your streaming needs. max dropped hbo from its name but added several new brands to its library including the food and magnolia networks. but even if you're not ready to ditch netflix entirely, you may be able to save money by downgrading to a cheaper subscription plan and avoid overpaying for a souped up premium subscription. vicky nguyen, nbc news. >> a lot of people are going to be clicking saying what's happened to my netflix. we have a lot to cover in the second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. at this hour, new details about an american musician detained in russia. now the warning from moscow. he's facing 20 years in prison accused of dealing drugs. plus, postponed, the rest of president biden's busy scheduled including a major meeting with

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