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tour that is trying to buy the professional game of golf. >> reporter: there is a lot still to be decided following this announcement, like, what is the path back to pga events for players currently playing on the liv tour? ahead of the canadian open in toronto, the commissioner met with players there, he admitted it was an intense meeting, heated, but as monahan told cnbc, it is less about how people respond today, it is all about how people respond in ten years and he believes this is what's best for the growth of the game globally. back to you. >> kaylee hartung, thank you. that's going to do it for us today. thank you so much for joining us. we'll see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. until then, reporting from new york, i'm ana cabrera. our coverage continues with jose diaz-balart right now. and good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we're following several breaking stories this morning. nbc news just learned a trump
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aide is at a florida courthouse, potentially to go before a grand jury, investigating trump's handling of classified documents. overseas, pope francis in the hospital and scheduled to undergo surgery. what we know about his condition. back at home, another mass shooting, this time outside a high school graduation in virginia. and we are just moments away from yet another republican officially entering the 2024 presidential race. it comes just hours before former vice president mike pence does something that hasn't been done in more than 80 years. and we begin with breaking news on the investigations into former president donald trump this morning. a key trump aide who runs a pro-trump super pac entered the federal courthouse in miami to potentially testify before a grand jury hearing evidence in the investigation into trump's
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handling of classified information. this comes as two people briefed on the matter tell "the new york times" former white house chief of staff mark meadows testified before a grand jury in washington, d.c., hearing evidence in that investigation as well as trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. it is not clear when meadows testified or what prosecutors asked him. nbc news has not independently confirmed this reporting. now, meantime, two sources familiar confirmed to nbc news that more than 20 secret service agents either appeared or have been subpoenaed to appear before the grand jury in washington. with us now, to talk more about this, nbc news correspondent garrett haake and charles coleman, a prosecutor in brooklyn, new york, also an msnbc legal analyst. garrett, who is this trump aide and why would prosecutors want to talk to him? >> the trump aide in question is taylor budavich, a fixture in the trump orbit for quite some
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time now. we don't know what issue prosecutors are want to talk to him about. for a time in the immediate aftermath of the trump presidency, taylor was one of the few -- one of only two paid political aides who were on mr. trump's staff. he was in mar-a-lago during that time period and would have been around for potentially conversations about both the election interference probe that jack smith is handling and the classified documents piece of this. so he's someone who could have a wide breadth of knowledge that could be useful to smith. i think the questions that we don't know is why is he coming in only now, and why in florida? there is a lot more reporting to do here, but a key figure in this drama appearing at the federal courthouse in miami this morning. >> meanwhile, what is the significance of mark meadows' testimony? >> meadows has been the white whale for folks interested in january 6th and leadup to it for quite some time.
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he never testified before them, you know, ultimately being held in contempt of congress. his testimony about the leadup to that day, what mr. trump knew and when could be useful. also, on that part of the probe, also on the classified documents piece of this, remember there has been reporting recently, i think in "the new york times," that it was research for mark meadows memoir that, you know, led to this discovery of this additional classified information that mr. trump might have had about iran he was bragging about. meadows again, in the middle of everything, as he was during his time as chief of staff and then shortly after the end of the trump presidency, his information could be extraordinarily useful to prosecutors. again, we don't have his appearance confirmed at nbc news. i reached out to meadows personally to seek what if anything he wants to share about it, but hugely useful testimony, potentially on two -- on both branches of the special counsel investigation. >> let's talk about one of the branches, trump aide in miami
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today. what are the implications of that? >> it is hard to tell because as you already talked about, it is unclear as to why this aide is testifying at this point. and the investigation, but what we do know is that there is as you already talked about another grand jury that is open in florida, and the significance of that remains undiscovered because it could be a jurisdiction question, where, for example, merrick garland and jack smith are thinking about what venue would be best, and could be a question of where they try witnesses, they may bring charges against certain witnesses or certain targets in d.c. versus in florida. and so it is unclear as to why we're seeing this second grand jury in florida, but one thing is for certain, this is not good news for donald trump, given the volume of information that this witness likely has and will be able to divulge to the grand jury. regardless of whether it is washington, d.c. or in florida, this does not bode well for
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trump and his legal woes that continue to mount. >> how common or uncommon is it for there to be different grand juries sat for the same case, in different places. >> it is very uncommon, jose. this is not something we see, which is why we sort of have to let this thing play out in terms of understanding the significance right now. it is unclear as to what the strategy that jack smith and merrick garland's offices are moving forward with. but the other thing you have to understand is that there are multiple things going on. so we can't necessarily assume that the grand jury that is hearing information in washington is hearing the same exact information in florida. these cases, while they may be related, also may be distinctly different as you already talked about. jack smith is not only looking at the potential for election interference, he's looking at mar-a-lago and the documents case there. it is unclear as to whether these two cases are being heard exactly by the same grand jury as the grand jury in washington
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is pretty much wrapping up, it looks like this may be similar, but at the same time we don't know. grand juries are a secret proceeding. to answer your question, this is not usual and it is not common at all. >> so now we have among the many different investigations, and they're ongoing, so you have the trump aide today, and then you have the mark meadows thing, you also, garrett, have appearances by the secret service agent before the grand jury as well? >> that's right, jose. we were able to confirm that more than a dozen secret service agents as part of donald trump's detail have also testified before the grand jury. again, it is not clear in which of the special counsel probes they were being questioned, but i think it speaks to the thoroughness of this probe that we now basically have gone through the list, the people who were around the former president both immediately after and around the events of january 6th and in the early stages of his post presidency when this classified documents issue really began. and basically everyone, you know, you could kind of put on a
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list of the people who would have been around him have been called to testify that we can find, it does suggest, again, that perhaps these probes, at least one of them, is wrapping up. but the secret nature of this process is just as confounding to we reporters as it is to viewers and we're trying to find out about what the secret service agents would have talked about. >> thank you both so much. this morning, 86-year-old pope francis is back in the hospital, where he will be undergoing a second surgery to treat an intestinal blockage. it raises new questions over his health. the pope had 13 inches of his colon removed just two years ago because of inflammation and narrowing of the large intestine and in late march he spent three days in the hospital for bronchitis. the pope has also been using a wheelchair and walker for more than a year because of strained ligaments in his knee. joining us is nbc's anne thompson. great seeing you. >> good to see you. >> thank you so much. what do we know about the condition of the pope today in. >> we just got some news from
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the vatican. that is as a precautionary measure, all papal audiences have been suspended until at least june 18th. and so we will not see him do his weekly audience or he will not have any private meetings in that time. we do know that he is at gemeli hospital. we have no word on whether the surgery has started. we know that this is to repair a hernia that they believe is a result of that surgery you spoke of in july 2021. he will undergo general anesthetic, which is something pope francis has been very public about, he doesn't like it. it is why he has such mobility problems because he could have his knee repaired, but he's refused to do it because he didn't like the way the anesthesia made him feel when he had his colon surgery. so, we know that the vatican says he will be in the hospital for several days. but the key thing here is that it gives him enough time now by having the surgery today, enough
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time to get ready for what is going to be a very busy summer. >> we have august, right, portugal, also going to mongolia later in august. >> yeah. he's going to world youth day in portugal. it is not a day, it is really a week. he has four or five days of events there. >> hundreds of thousands of people. >> absolutely. it is crazy. and it is -- kids come from all over the world for that. and then he's going to go back to rome and then supposedly he's going to go to marseille and make a speech and then go to mongolia as long as his health stands up. and these -- that mongolia trip is very important to him. remember, this is a pope who wants to reach out to the peripheries an he just appointed a cardinal in mongolia. and so this is his way of going out to the periphery. >> it is not been in the past, i'm just thinking even of other papacies, to know the health condition of popes.
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>> very secretive. >> but we know pretty much a lot more about the health of francis than we do others. >> i'm not sure i would say that. i mean, what we saw when he was hospitalized for bronchitis, remember, it was he had gone to the hospital for tests. well, clearly he didn't go to a hospital for tests. he went to the hospital because he was sick. there is always kind of -- i will never understand why they aren't more transparent about the pope's health. it would certainly put a lot of rumors to rest. he's very upset about the rumors that go around about his health, about how sick he truly is. >> if there's no information. >> that's it. >> i was speaking with the anchor who spoke from telemundo, he said he looked really, really solid. he had a problem of transportation and mobility, but other than that, he looked
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really solid, he was shaking 900 hands or something, but he's 86. >> the next day he had a fever and took the day off. we saw the same thing today. he had two private meetings and held his weekly general audience out in st. peters square. people who were there said he was in fine form. he looked great. there was no indication that they saw that he was going to the hospital today. and he loves being in those crowds. that's really medicine for him. he feeds off of that. kissing babies, waving to the crowd, he loves all of that. >> i love seeing you in person, anne thompson. great to see you. thank you so much. up next, another mass shooting in america. this time, listen to this, a high school, a graduation in virginia where an 18-year-old grad and his father were gunned down. we're back in 60 seconds with the latest on the investigation. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" today from
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13 past the hour. in virginia, a high school graduation ceremony turned tragic after a gunman opened fire outside a theater in virginia commonwealth university. killing two and injuring five others. 18-year-old shawn jackson who just received his diploma and his father lorenzo smith were killed according to police. a 19-year-old suspect was arrested and charged with two counts of second degree murder. aaron gilchrist joins us from richmond, virginia. you graduated from ecu and you know the area so well. what happened? >> reporter: i was in this theater for my sister's graduation. i'm a graduate as well. i can tell you from experience that there were hundreds of people on the sidewalks, outside this theater after the ceremony ended yesterday afternoon and gunfire erupted during what was really supposed to be a happy time for the people who were
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gathered here, taking pictures, hugging, grandparents and small children as well, that gunfire erupted, we learned today at a news conference a few minutes ago from the police chief here that the student who died, the graduate who died, and the suspect who has been arrested knew each other. they had a history of at least a year of some sort of conflict between the two of them, the police chief saying there was an exchange of words, outside the theater here today and the suspect then went to his car, and retrieved a handgun and came back and started shooting. that's when the student, 18-year-old shawn jackson, and his stepfather lorenzo smith were both shot at the scene here and sent the crowd running for their lives, literally, many of them running back into the theater trying to take cover. others scattering from the scene here. this is another incident that this school district and this city have had to deal with in recent weeks. we heard from the mayor who is really incensed about what has happened here. take a listen to part of what he had to say.
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>> so words that come to mind right now that this is tragic, but also traumatic. because this is their graduation day. the question that comes in my mind right now is, is nothing sacred any longer? is nothing sacred any longer? >> reporter: and as you noted, jose, the suspect here, ammary pollard, 19, has been charged with two counts of he appeared in court this morning and is being held without bond. the mother of the young man who died here now has to mourn the loss of her son. she is now a widow, mourning the loss of her husband. she has a 9-year-old daughter who was hit by a car after the shooting started here in the frenzy that happened here. and now she's having to care for her daughter whose injuries are not life threatening and mourn
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for the loss of her son as she will soon have to bury. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you so much. turning now to florida, where an arrest has been made in the shooting death of an ocala mother of four. susan was arrested and charged with multiple counts including manslaughter for the fatal shooting of her neighbor following a dispute last friday. the marion county sheriff's office says she became upset over owen's children playing in a nearby field. when owens went to knock on her front door, she allegedly shot through the door, killing owens. the mother of a.j. owens spoke with msnbc last hour. >> as a mother, as a grandmother, the grief, the pain that i am bearing, watching my grandchildren go through this, words can never, never explain how i feel and how my babies feel, how a.j.'s babies feel.
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>> joining us now is nbc anchor lindsey reiser. what more do we know about the sheriff's decision to file charges? >> we know that they were able to talk to eyewitnesss who only came forward yesterday about what happened. they also interviewed owens' children finally. they had specialists do that. they did arrest her. and susan was booked into jail at 4:25 this morning. she was interviewed by detectives and told them she had become angry over time at owens' children. they were playing in that field near the apartment complex. neighbors told our joy reid last night that this woman has a history of antagonizing and yelling at the neighborhood children. lorincz threw a roller skate at one of owens' children, hitting his toe. remember civil rights attorney ben crump said she yelled racial slurs at the children. the children, we're told, left something na that field, an ipad or something of some sort. they went to the home to try to retrieve it.
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the mother came to try and talk to lorincz, according to detectives, and she knocked on the door, asked for her to come out and she shot through her door striking owens in the chest. she said she did it in self-defense. she said owens had previously attacked her. we have not been able to corroborate that. we know lorincz was arrested. she was charged with negligence, battery and two counts of assault. and the sheriff talked about this stand your ground law and how that comes into play. this is what he said. >> it does not apply in all situations and this situation is a prime example of when it was not justified. it was simply a killing. >> she is expected to make her first court appearance likely tomorrow. she is undergoing medical testing now and attorney ben crump in the last hour said this is a step toward justice.
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>> lindsey reiser, thank you very much. up next, how dangerous wildfire smoke from canada is it affecting almost 100 million people here in the u.s. what you need to know about it. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on. from prom dresses to workouts and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b.
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23 past the hour. this morning, 98 million people across the country are under quality alerts as smoke spreads from the wildfires burning in canada. look at some of these pictures. last night, new york city had the worst air quality in the world surpassing new delhi, india. nbc's bill karins is with us this morning. bill, i got to tell you, great seeing you, i came in last night, i went out, i couldn't see the buildings. and it was quite frankly really difficult. >> two things going on here. one, this portion of the country does experience it. south florida, we both lived there, been there the swamp
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fires, everyone in the west has seen all the fires and they're, like, this is what we have to deal with for the last couple of years. it is unusual for the northeast especially. that's one part of this. the second part is that today's going to be worse than yesterday. and it looks like we're going to break records that we set yesterday. >> yesterday was like the worst day in 20 years, right? >> yesterday, air monitoring really began in earnest in the late '90s. yesterday's measurements in queens, new york, was the worst air quality that new york city has ever recorded going back 24 years. >> today it is going to be worse? >> worse this evening, yes. let me show you this. this is visible satellite image. they're taking a picture, we have the sun illuminaing the clouds. if you look at this hazy stuff here, this is all dense smoke. right now in syracuse, something called the air quality index, it goes from about 100 to 500 and if you get toward 500, you better shut your doors and not let any air in your house. syracuse is at 400 right now. the epa when you get above 400 tells even healthy people not to
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be outdoors. that's happening right now in central new york, headed to the finger lakes, down to northeast pennsylvania. if you look at the edge of the clouds, that's heading toward new york city. let me show you the forecast maps for this mess. we color coded it here. this is the forecast. the dark gray is the densest smoke. this is 4:00 p.m. this evening, right over the lower hudson valley, new york city, philadelphia, northeast pennsylvania, long island and all of southern new england. and the problem is that the air is not moving fast enough, so it is kind of going to sit here and linger. this is 7:00 a.m. tomorrow. it is not as dense. this is fine particulate matter. we measure particles by how big they are. the particles in smoke, what is out there making the sky look hazy is 1/30th the size of a piece of my hair. you can breathe that in, it gets into your lungs and blood stream. that's why we have these concerns. >> what do we do? >> stay indoors and listen to the advisories.
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31 past the hour. a big day on the campaign trail. any moment, north dakota governor doug burgum is expected to officially announce his candidacy for the republican nomination for president. earlier this morning, former vice president mike pence released an ad. this is what he said. >> we can turn this country around, different times call for different leadership. today our party and our country need a leader that will appeal as lincoln said, to the better angels of our nature. >> and pence is set to speak at an event in less than two hours where he will formally become the first vice president to challenge his former president in more than 80 years. i believe it was gardener who went up against fdr once. joining us now, nbc's steve patterson in fargo, north dakota. and tom labianco, vanity fair contributor and author of
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"piety & pence." steve, for folks who aren't very familiar with him, who is doug burgum? >> yeah, it is one of the big political questions of the day. who the heck is doug burgum as the country music blasts behind me. i think to answer that, you have to talk about the duality of doug burgum, started as a software developer, made millions, can easily fund a lot of his campaign. and became a really successful two-term governor, really popular in the state of north dakota for bringing in jobs, for focusing on clean energy, for putting those in front of his campaign. but the duality of that is he's done very little to raise his national profile. polling at maybe 1% as we speak. and to change that really wants to focus on being a change candidate, on shifting the focus away from what he calls and describes as the culture wars that have come to describe the
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republican party and focusing on more fiscal and issues that he believes are prime to republicans who really think that the issues are the key focus. as he's about to walk on stage, the duality of that, though, he signed several bills that have been central to the culture wars of the time. it is very difficult now to get an abortion in the state of north dakota, very difficult to be transgender because he signed several laws ahead of those things. but if you sit him down for an hour, he will not bring any of that up. he is very focused again, not on his opponents, not on pence, not on trump, not on desantis, but on focusing the issues. the question is, with so much of the race being focused on those culture wars, can he actually raise his profile doing that? that remains to be seen. i think he's about to make his first announcement as we speak. >> thanks. and, tom, you've been following pence's career, how has he evolved as a politician over
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these last years? >> you know, there is a potential here that we might actually see the quote, unquote real mike pence as he launches here for president. i've been covering him for 12 years. now covering him as national political reporter at the messenger. the piece on this, pretty shortly, probably an hour or so, before he announces, around when he announces, he started out as a machine politician in the late '80s and early '90s, morphed into a compassionate conservative when he ran in 2000, when that was in vogue. technocrat and trump splainer. and they said that for especially through the vice presidency and inside the trump white house, pence was playing
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it careful. and now he's going to do more of that. but the next question which follows here is well, how much more is there? over the years his friends have long told me that they wish that the mike pence they see behind the scenes would actually show up in public more often. they think that would win more people over. so we're about to find out if that's actually going to happen. >> and as someone who worked on multiple presidential campaigns, when you see so many people joining the race like we're seeing two today, how do folks like that, i'm thinking more of the former governor -- the governor burgum than i am of pence, how do you break through a crowd like that? >> i think that's a very good question. and it is extremely hard for someone to not break through. i don't think burgum had much of a national profile, especially some of the extreme policies that we mentioned here already, the abortion ban, one of the most restrictive in the country.
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so, you know, his message, i watched his campaign video this morning and it was very much the this is my story, kind of boring to be honest. if you're going to try to break through the very crowded field of republican contenders, you got to do something that is going to excite the base. he's not talking about the culture issues. they are what is exciting the republican party base. outside of donald trump, they love talking about these culture issues. they love being extreme to the lgbtqia community. there is pride month and there is no poster child like that beyond mike pence who is running against the lgbtq community, against women have autonomy over their bodies. all these issues are issues that rile the state. if you're going to try to break through, you got to start talking about some of the issues and do something that is going to excite the base of the republican party. >> so, someone who could probably not be blamed for being not exciting is chris christie.
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tom, he kicked off his campaign last night in new hampshire. came out swinging against trump. here is part of what he had to say. >> the person i am talking about, who is obsessed with the mirror, who never admits a mistake, who never admits a fault, and who always finds someone else and something else to blame for whatever goes wrong, but finds every reason to take credit for anything that goes right is donald trump. >> so, pence has so far walked that fine line. you were talking about that and not going after trump directly. how will he be able to toe that line in this race? >> you know, christie was pretty interesting. i remember watching him eight years ago in new hampshire at the town halls. one of the things that caught me, a number of top lines that came out of it, one of the things that really caught me, though, was the people in the crowd laughing at what he said.
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granted that's a crowd that is there to see him, but if you look at the different dynamics between 2016 and 2024, you know, this is a field that is not going to be blind sided by trump. now, that's not to say that any of this will work, not to say chris christie is going to be the nominee or pence or desantis or anyone else for that matter, other than trump, but you get the sense that -- and i've heard this from the republican strategists on the various campaigns over the last few months -- they know what they're dealing with now. you saw that with christie. now, you know, will that work? and that's the big question. we have so many big x factors out there. another grand jury that we just found out about, more former trump aides and advisers testifying. >> steve patterson, tom lobianca and valencia johnson, thank you so much for being with us this morning. up next, why governor ron desantis is making a surprise trip to the border as his
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learned all that much. we saute lohr budowich enter the courthouse before 9:00 and now we have seen his tweet, a fairly defiant one, saying this is an effort as you noted to get donald trump, but that he testified fully and completely. that indicates to me he did not take the fifth amendment or if he did, he took it selectively today. we know also that taylor made a number of statements in his capacity as former president trump's spokesperson, during the investigation. both by the national archives and the fbi and the doj in which he said this was a witch-hunt, trump was fully cooperative, that the raid was unnecessary, and even accused the fbi of colluding with "the washington post," with respect to its reporting that trump had retained classified documents pertaining to the nuclear secrets of a foreign country. jose, we wait and watch to see if other witnesses will appear here in miami this week or beyond. >> lisa rubin in miami, thank
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you so very much. now to arizona where nbc news is first to report that florida governor ron desantis will be making today his first visit to the border since becoming a presidential candidate. this comes as florida admits it sent two planes with migrants from the el paso area to sacramento, california. nbc news national correspondent gabe gutierrez joins us now from sierra vista, arizona. good morning. what is this all about? >> reporter: hi there, jose. good morning. governor ron desantis has made immigration a central issue of his gubernatorial time as a governor in florida. but this is his first visit to the u.s. southern border as a presidential candidate. and just a short time he is set to meet with local law enforcement officials here in arizona, including local sheriff of cochise county. this is being billed, jose, as an official state visit, not a
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campaign event. it is a roundtable with local officials and also some florida officials will be here as well. but, jose, this all comes amid a growing controversy, this -- these two migrant flights, migrants taken to sacramento, california, that for days california officials accused florida officials of sending the migrants there. just yesterday, confirmation from a spokesperson for the florida division of emergency management who released videos supposedly showing these migrants voluntarily getting on these flights. but governor gavin newsom has been very critical of florida officials here and saying that his state will investigate whether there could be any criminal charges involved with this. governor desantis has yet to comment on this publicly, but so far during his campaign, jose, he's trying to stake a position that is even further to the right of former president trump, something the trump campaign is pushing back on, jose. >> gabe gutierrez in arizona, thank you very much. with us to talk more about
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the humanitarian crisis is texas congresswoman veronica escobar who sits on the judiciary committee. it is a pleasure to see you. thank you for your time. >> thank you, jose. >> so florida's emergency management office said, yes, we did this, picking up the migrants from el paso, in your district, flying them to sacramento twice. california governor newsom went after ron desantis when he talked with my colleague for the "today" show. here is some of what he had to say. >> these flights of asylum seekers, they have been described as state sanctioned kidnapping by the attorney general of this state of california. you tweeted directly at the governor of florida ron desantis. you called him a small pathetic man and asked, quote, kidnapping charges? is that what you believe happened, governor newsom, that florida kidnapped migrants and brought them to california in. >> i think i'm being generous
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with small and pathetic, very generous. he's just weakness masquerading as strength. he's flailing. desperate for attention. let's just level set here. let's level set. here is a governor from the state of florida, that is using taxpayer money and he had to go to another state to find people under false pretense. i don't think this, i know this, i talked to the migrants. lied to them, took them into another state by bus, and then took them on a chartered flight to sacramento, lying to them that they had help on the other side, knocked on the door and they left these migrants right there on the steps. what kind >> florida's emergency management office put out this video showing migrants signing paperwork to go to california and migrants saying they weren't tricked or mistreated.
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two different explanations. at the end of the day, what's being forgotten is the fate of men, women and children who are here to request asylum. where is the focus on them? >> yeah, you are right, jose. what the florida governor, what the texas governor and many other red state governors who are falling all over themselves to be as cruel as possible forget is that these individuals are human beings. they are here legally. they have applied for asylum. they would like to see their cases adjudicated. they would like a shot at being in our country over the long-term. we have a true challenge on our hands. what these folks, what the republicans are trying to do is distract from any real solutions and use the border and migrants as political pawns. >> you and a florida congresswoman have introduced a bipartisan bill that would deal with the humanitarian crisis among other things.
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it's so rare, congresswoman, to even see people on capitol hill talking to each other much less presenting something as a first step. how significant is that? >> jose, this was a breakthrough. we are deeply committed to addressing one of the biggest challenges that our country is facing today, and that is the rising number of migrants who are arriving at our nation's front door. also, acknowledging that migration doesn't start at the border. it starts beyond our borders. we have to think more strategically about that. also, reforming outdated processes at the border. i am very grateful to have her as a partner. we introduced this bipartisan piece of comprehensive immigration legislation, four democrats, four republicans.
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we are now taking the time to talk to our colleagues to try to build that support. we know this is not the perfect bill. we know this is not everything that either side wants. this represents a compromise in the current political environment and a true sign that we want to solve this great challenge. >> in this current political climate, do you think it has any possibilities? >> i do. i'm an eternal optimist. what we have seen over the last two years and what we saw even last week with the work that the president did is that the two sides can come together. we have addressed our failing infrastructure through a bipartisan process. we have begun to tackle gun violence. that happened through a bipartisan process. we averted a debt ceiling crisis, a default on our debts through a bipartisan process. why not immigration?
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>> thank you for everything. thank you for being with us this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, crisis in haiti. its people deal with two deadly disasters and a new round of brutal violence. we will get you up to speed on what is going on in haiti, the desperate need of people to be able to survive day by day. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on. oh booking.com, ♪ i'm going to somewhere, anywhere. ♪
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55 after the hour. haiti is facing several different crises. a deadly 4.9 earthquake on tuesday left at least four dead and dozens injured, that's after massive flooding killed dozens, displacing thousands more and that amid reports of vigilante justice to resolve crime and gang violence. a human rights group says at least 160 gang members have been killed by vigilantes. while some report feeling safer,
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others say they fear the gangs will retaliate. joining us now is gary pierre pierre. it's a pleasure to see you. what is the latest in haiti? are the people that are just passing the earthquake and flooding, are they getting aid? >> thanks for having me, jose. not much aid from outside haiti. i would like to add an outbreak of cholera to the mix of ills patients are facing right now. last week, more than ten people died from cholera in a city very popular with tourists, about an hour and a half southwest of port-au-prince. you have political gridlock. almost two years since the assassination of the president. not much progress has been made in the political front. >> very little progress.
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meanwhile, people's sense of security is gone. >> absolutely. it's been gone for a while. that's why you have the vigilante pushback. that's dangerous in itself. that can go very bad quickly, because the gangs, they have automatic-grade weapons. the population has machetes and sticks. that's not a match. this has to be taken care of or we will be talking about calamities in haiti again. >> i think about this all the time. why is it that haiti is ignored? why is it haiti has been forgotten? >> it has always been forgotten since its inception. in 1804, a black nation in a white world. >> first one. >> it was exploiting freedom all over latin america. that didn't sit well. it has been fighting against
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a barrage of forces. today is no different. >> it's such a tragedy. it's an extraordinary people and they just -- they are left on their own or worse. gary pierre pierre, thank you. >> if it wasn't for bad luck, haiti wouldn't have any luck at all. >> gary pierre pierre, i thank you very much. before we go, we are celebrating new life in the nbc news family. his mom is yamiche alcindor. he was born may 30th. yrie means vibes are good and everything is well. our best wishes to this beautiful, extraordinary new family. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can watch highlights from today's show online.
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thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," a federal grand jury in miami hears testimony today from former president trump's top aide after he left office, who heads his make america great superpac. "the new york times" is reporting that mark meadows has given testimony in a separate grand jury meeting in washington on both the mar-a-lago document investigation and the january 6th attack on the capitol. the 2024 campaign is heating up with former vice president mike pence jumping into the race next hour in iowa. with a video this morning. >> we are better than this. we can turn this country around. different times call for different leadership. >> this after chris christie comes out swinging against trump during his campaign rollout in new hampshire.

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